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Ok you GQueers, how do you make a GU tougher?? Easy! lift and tyres. How do make a GQ tougher?? Not so easy, you need tyres, suspension lift, body lift, GU diffs, GU steering box and for the diesel boys GU injector pump, GU injectors and turbo set up. Yet from a distance if you put a GQ next to a 60 series they look pretty similar so how TUFF can your Q be if it looks like a cruiser???
A GQ looks as much like a 60 as a GU does a 100
I was passenger in a Y62 today when a mate took one for a test drive. POWERRRRRRRR!!!!
If you're happy and you know it tap a post!
GQ shoe box!!
Chris wheres the pics?? Videos????
I will respect your opinion when it's gets a little closer to the truth!Quote:
Originally Posted by Alitis007
Why would you suggest that all GQs need a body lift???
I wait in anticipation to see your GU's build thread stop at just lift and tyres.
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1.I dont use a gu pump on on mine it dosnt supply enough fuel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alitis007
2. I dont need a body lift.
3. Modifying a GQ to make it tough is as easy as a GU to make tough. A set of tyres and a bit of lift isnt tough. To go tough you still need to redo panhards control arms radius arms etc. Or to go harder 4 links, 5 links etc
4. A GU steering box also came out on the late model GQ's
5. there are plenty of tough GQ's without GU diffs.
6. your GU isnt tough.
Hahaha, nuff saidQuote:
Originally Posted by Ben-e-boy
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Originally Posted by taslucas
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Originally Posted by Ben-e-boy
Technicalities boyz !!
Lucas i didn't say all i just mentioned some mods that are done to Qs. When i do my build apart from lift and tyres i'll probably make it weaker if anything depending on my choice of motor upgrade, coz when you change anything from standard your changing the way it was initially setup so in theory modifications are the weak points unless your upgrades are genuine OEM from a newer model.
Bene as you know a lift isn't just springs and shocks and when i said lift those components are included. So your saying that early GQ's aren't as tough as the later Q's coz they have are smaller steering box or other heavier duty components that the U's inherited? You do have a turbo yeh ? Do it would naturally need the boost compensator and possibly other components from a GU pump to help it work efficiently right??
You make me laugh mate, my GU is tough from factory coz ITS A GU! Just coz its not a bush pig doesn't make it any weaker then any other U!
^_^No GQ's where harmed in the making of my GU^_^
Dude!? That is soooo wrong!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Alitis007
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Maybe we should have another thread for "more capable". Which both series can be with some modifications. As stock on the outisde I probably see it as a GQ being tougher as there is thicker metal and paint around it ;)...so easy to damage the U's...like tin foil with a spray of crap
Go to a wrecker look at the amount go wrecked GQ's to the amount of GU's. Plenty of GU's were harmed to make a tough GQQuote:
Originally Posted by Alitis007
Hows it wrong??? When something is designed and mass manufactured all the components are able to withstand the tolerances it was made for, let say for eg you change the cam in your TB42 for one that has a higher lift ( performance) and keep the rest standard, the bigger lobes on the cam are going to put more stress on the push rods and valve springs. Their tolerance is suited for standard so eventually breaking or bending from the added strain!!Quote:
Originally Posted by taslucas
Get what i'm saying ???
Nobody and I mean Nobody is going to win this discussion LOL
But it is keeping some of you busy LOL
Damn, well I'm going home thenQuote:
Originally Posted by Bob
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and I'm enjoying this...lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Bob
I know what your getting at George. But think of your theory this way: your saying the more a patrol is modified the weeker it gets.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Alitis007
So mudrunners, Bennys, newbies GQs must be soft as!!! I'm surprised they can even get them to the tracks lol
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Hey I thought you were going Home RAFLMAOQuote:
Originally Posted by taslucas
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Originally Posted by taslucas
hey dont forget about my stock Mav
The power that my setup will produce will have no affect on any suspension components unless i choose the wrong spring and damper rates then my handling and drivability will be compromised. The weak link could be the actual motor i choose to run.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben-e-boy
The cars at wreckers are usually rolled or flood damaged vehicles and cars that have been wiped out on the rd and anyway they just scrap GQ bodies coz they're rusted out anyway.
So you just said that you need GU's to make GQ's tougher !!!!!!!
Haha, while theyre still biting, I'll keep casting:-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob
I'm so so sorry, no one ever should forget about your stockQuote:
Originally Posted by Nisshead
Maverick
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Depends on what mods are done, upgrading to thicker controls arms is more like an upgrade than a modification, cutting a dirty big hole in your bonnet for an intercooler makes it weaker by removing its reinforcement, not a upgrade thats a mod!Quote:
Originally Posted by taslucas
At the end of the day GU's rule !!! FTW!!!!
At the end of the day GU's rule !!! FTW!!!!
Your GU is shit and your a wanka...
so obviously you are not going to run a td42 lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Alitis007
yes gu parts CAN make a GQ tougher although it isnt necessary, its just that a GU had to die to supply a gq that is still living.
think of it as organ donation.
as for rust I have seen some heavily rusted GU's it is not a problem with GQs only
than what about my long arm kit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alitis007
Don't know what that is lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Ben-e-boy
And there ends the discussion:-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Alitis007
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Here George...http://www.superiorengineering.com.a...oducts_id=1719
Thanks Kris!!
Only problem i can see with the long arm kit that i can think of is what affect in the long run does it have on the chassis?? Will it crack along the weld after a beating ? To get your tail shaft on that sharp angle under full flex doesn't that tube that runs across the chassis near the handbrake drum have to be cut?? Wouldn't you loose its integrity and possibly twist your chassis?? What affect does all that flex do to the canceling angles of the universal joints under full acceleration, wont they chop out or twist the tail shaft??
So you've got killer flex but just weakened the truck!! IMO
Righto... firstly define beating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alitis007
did you read the page about the problems it corrects?
Spoken by a true gu owner.... LmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Bob
Don't forget the gq has stronger gearbox and earlier td42 silver top have stronger conrods.
At the end of the day so far in all of our meetups when we split up the group the gq's head that way and the gu owners head down into the valley for some scones and cream.
Except for Nisspat who buys a brand new patrol and takes it out like a paddock bomb...lol...respect!
Lol ok, constant use on and off rd, the effect of positive and negative G force ( gravitational force) from accelerating and de accelerating in all conditions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben-e-boy
The page said it solves 3 problems, torque steer from the rear diff, the canceling angle on flat ground and the diff wanting to drive under the car. I asked 6 different questions relating its surrounding components and the affect of this change of tolerances??
But what happens when you give him a GQ!???? It's even more insane!Quote:
Originally Posted by AB
Hey george just chill it down a bit lol. You sound like a mechanic thats worth his salt and from all accounts you have a great knowledge in the industry, but theres a lot of guys here that do actually investigate the modifications they are doing not just whack em on because they think its cool. Its not up to them to take you through every step of the way in teaching the benifits of said modifications. Some of these guys are up to their 4th or 5th patrol and are one eyed 4wders.
We could go on forever about wether or not a long arm kit compromises chassis strength (even though id say it doesnt:) ) but theres no realistic way to prove it other than anecdotal evidence and ive never heard of a patrol chassis snapping because of the long arm.
Bottom line is we improve our 4wds by modifying them.
I dont think this thread was ever ment to be serious lol
oh and one more thing: GU coil supports are weak and break!!! hahahaha got another one in there!
I know Lucas mate, thanks and i'm not taking it too heart, trust me you would know lol i sound a bit full on some times and i don't know everything but i learn fast haha.
BTW GU's rule and GQ's pull !!!! GQ drivers drink wine and have a pee, GU drivers drink beer and take a PISS! Lol
But your not allowed to piss in a carpark lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Alitis007
Where ever and when ever mate, i own a GU so it comes with the territory! hahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by taslucas
never has the dribble from your mouth/ keyboard been so true.... lmfaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Alitis007
George what are you getting yourself into!? These 3 QLD GQs are going to make mince meat out of your soccer mum GU!
Hey Benny, George is gonna come with me to do Big Red!
Gu's all the way
no I have the widowmaker reserved for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winnie
big red is all yours lmao