Hodge's new 4.2

[Hodge]

Nice work Eric, a couple of great updates.


Nice truck Hodge can't wait to get my wagon back however I still love my 06 4.2 Tdi ute clunks and all lol

Ps where did you score the Nissan patrol.com.au sticker from?

Thanks folks shes coming along slowly.
Kimbo, contact taslucas here on the forum. I think he has a thread for the stickers too ...

[Hodge]

Met up with threedogs this mortning and got the rear seat blanking plates off him. Very nice and neat. Yet to fit them.

Also decided to go ahead with my Premium winch mistakenly sent to me... The original one, sold to a mate, so all worked out !!

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[threedogs]

Were you able to swap winches today????

[Hodge]

Nope. Pulled the original one out though. 10 minute job. Ready for the new one to go in first thing tomorrow morning.
Gotta swap the red for grey rope as I'm keeping the red one. Same rope 11mm by 26M, just different color.


http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64227&stc=1

[Hodge]

Finished with the new Runva premium winch. Very impressed and the clutch selector is perfect !!!! Sit's at 11 oclock facing the bull bar and super easy to access with the hand and it's a click in click out spring system so don't have to turn it all the way. Very happy!
Much neater finish as well compared to the other one too. Also relocated the solenoid box to, to a higher better position... Used some brackets to make up a solid mounting point. Just got to wire up a extension plug to somewhere on front of the bar and happy days.

Also looks odd seeing that thing on the front instead of a hook, but it'll grow on me.

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[threedogs]

Looks much better, not a big fan of having the hook underneath , but not much you can do about it.
Ill modify that flag bracket and powder coat it satin black for you, if you fit it you fit it..
Id remove the shackle and turn it 90 degrees just saying.
Do you just remove the grill and lift the winch out that way??
Axminster carpet too la de dah lol

Ill grab some of those tie down clips for you you could put them on top of the fridge box
anyway going there tomorrow to use their wire for a few jobs and hopefully change my steering damper

[Hodge]

Thanks mate.
Yeah when grille is off I have a ton of access and room. Dropping winch in there was easy with a lot of room to spare. Easy to work with. Wish it was the same on the engine side of radiator .

Tapatalked from S6

[Kimbo63]

That is exactly where I mounted my solenoid had to remove the cover though and and fitted the controller plug on the bar
How do you plug your controller in ?

[Hodge]

How do you plug your controller in ?

The socket on the control box will be mirrored/paralleled to somewhere on the bullbar, as well as a control point somewhere inside the cab in the future.

[threedogs]

Does the top of your bullbar have any knock outs to fit the controller socket,
if its a winch bar Id think it should have something.???

[Hodge]

Neat finish plates from threedogs. Couldn't find button top bolts for a much neater finish but oh well... I'm also waiting for some tie down points which will utilize the same bolts. Handy for strapping stuff down ...
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[lhurley]

Just use the tie downs in the floor that are covered by the draws.

[Hodge]

Just use the tie downs in the floor that are covered by the draws.


Yeah I did have plans to paint a few of them and use them, might still use them, depending on what the ones I ordered are like...

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64336&stc=1

[Hodge]

Put a sticker on the bumper... But while I was there I noticed water leaking from somewhere. (you can see it on the photo)
I think it's coming from the big barn door, somethings given way on the rear squirter piping ...

If it is so, I never use the rear wiper so may disconnect the water hose for this at the tank under the bonnet.


http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64392&stc=1

[mudski]

Probably just the one way valve gone in the hose Eric. Common thing to go....

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[jay see]

Probably just the one way valve gone in the hose Eric. Common thing to go....

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Yeah, I've still got mine in the console. Really need to pull my finger out and change it.

[jay see]

Put a sticker on the bumper... But while I was there I noticed water leaking from somewhere. (you can see it on the photo)
I think it's coming from the big barn door, somethings given way on the rear squirter piping ...

If it is so, I never use the rear wiper so may disconnect the water hose for this at the tank under the bonnet.


http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64392&stc=1

Not really important, but.....

Why is it every time you post a photo there is 2 of the same thing..

[Rocket55]

Put a sticker on the bumper... But while I was there I noticed water leaking from somewhere. (you can see it on the photo)
I think it's coming from the big barn door, somethings given way on the rear squirter piping ...

If it is so, I never use the rear wiper so may disconnect the water hose for this at the tank under the bonnet.


http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64392&stc=1

Where did you get the sticker from?

[Hodge]

Where did you get the sticker from?


taslucas here makes them mate. He sends these out bundled with the forum stickers.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?29738-Nissan-Patrol-Stickers-2014&highlight=stickers

[Hodge]

So, my IC is leaking as I just found out....
I don't want / need / have funds to buy a you beaut CC or HPD right now... and would like one before friday when I go away.
Was wondnering if anybody had experience with the eBay $500 units??

Also need a catch can.

Are these just shit and you get what you pay for or should I Just wait and get a proper branded unit ???

Not many places do a td42 unit, for example when I had my DieselPower exchange IC which was awesome for $450 exchange, they don't do a TD42 one unfortunately....

This one is pickup from Melbourne...

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Top-Mount-Intercooler-Kit-2003-07-FOR-Nissan-Patrol-TDi-TD42-4-2L-GU-4-2-Diesel-/321866078177?hash=item4af0b697e1:g:1iwAAOSwgQ9Vm3Z r (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/705-53470-19255-0/1?campid=5336709507&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fitm%2FTop-Mount-Intercooler-Kit-2003-07-FOR-Nissan-Patrol-TDi-TD42-4-2L-GU-4-2-Diesel-%2F321866078177%3Fhash%3Ditem4af0b697e1%3Ag%3A1iwA AOSwgQ9Vm3Zr)

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64480&stc=1

[mudski]

May give Mark a ring. He might have a stockie lying around you could use, for now.
That cooler will be better than what you have i reckon. For sure. if you must do this now you dont have much option. Id just leave it for now until you can get what you want....

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[Hodge]

Might go see Mark.
I don't think I'll go to CC or HPD in the near future, as I doubt I'll tinker with a different turbo, maybe just air intake increase thats about it.
So don't have much choice.....

The fact the oil leak out of the IC is so sudden is whats got me confused as I was under there yesterday morning and it weren't there. So if it's cracked between then and now, I'm concerned it may let go further on when I leave friday and weather is warming up etc...

[Rocket55]

Bugger mate. I just sold my stock cooler set up as well, although bit of a trek to get it.

[Hodge]

Thanks mate. It's not a biggie its just an IC, the fact it decided to surprise me with a patch of oil instead of the usual "sweat" of oil like the grenade intercoolers... is whats unusual. Worst case is just drive with with . What on earth could happen lol.

That eBay unit looks alright, but it could be just chinese junk..

[mudski]

Might go see Mark.
I don't think I'll go to CC or HPD in the near future, as I doubt I'll tinker with a different turbo, maybe just air intake increase thats about it.
So don't have much choice.....

The fact the oil leak out of the IC is so sudden is whats got me confused as I was under there yesterday morning and it weren't there. So if it's cracked between then and now, I'm concerned it may let go further on when I leave friday and weather is warming up etc...
Well if your gonna leave the stock turbo on i would give that ic a go.

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[Winnie]

There shouldn't be that much oil in the IC?

[mudski]

There shouldn't be that much oil in the IC?
No catch can mate. He'll have a bit. Enough for it to drip out of a hole.

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[nissannewby]

Make your own top mount of using a fmic. There is nothing wrong with having a real good intercooler regardless off turbo but if your worried about quality and dont wanna fork out for a cc then have a look st the ARE items which are a direct replacement.

[Hodge]

I have run out of time, so the leaking IC will go to the high country with me... Just hope it doesn't split open further ....




Make your own top mount of using a fmic. There is nothing wrong with having a real good intercooler regardless off turbo but if your worried about quality and dont wanna fork out for a cc then have a look st the ARE items which are a direct replacement.

Thanks Matt.
I was under the impression, by word of mouth and from reading somewhere from memory that , larger intecoolers such as the CC one, create too much air volume for the factory turbo to push through... So unless you have a larger airbox, larger intake (4" for example" and a bigger and/or better turbo, the much larger IC are not as efficient ??
As I said, I vaguely remember reading this a few times. It may or may not be right ...

I don't intend on upgrading the turbo or anything like that in the near future. But when and if I do, I'll just do the whole lot, 4" intake, turbo, pump etc.. But that is not on the horizon for some time.

For now, Maybe a higher flowing air box such as the HPD Cobra head maybe or the fatz airbox like a few here run, just to make the 4.2 breathe a bit better ... and a better intercooler which now I actually have to do.
I've had a look at the ARE (I was wrong in my post earlier, they DO actually have a 4.2 / 2.8 one). HPD also do a good one supposedly...

[mudski]

Yeah nothing wrong with hpd mate.

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[Hodge]

Yeah nothing wrong with hpd mate.

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Yeah this is the "upgrade" one... Utilizes same scoop, same hoses, same bracket and removes the butterfly thingie....

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http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HPD-NISSAN-PATROL-TURBO-GU-TD42-TOP-MOUNT-INTERCOOLER-UPGRADE-03-07-IK-GU42-T-/291638483102?hash=item43e702189e:g:EFMAAOSwnDZT~pn u (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/705-53470-19255-0/1?campid=5336709507&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fitm%2FHPD-NISSAN-PATROL-TURBO-GU-TD42-TOP-MOUNT-INTERCOOLER-UPGRADE-03-07-IK-GU42-T-%2F291638483102%3Fhash%3Ditem43e702189e%3Ag%3AEFMA AOSwnDZT%7Epnu)

[mudski]

I have that same air box lid and the rubber "cobra head" adaptor. Its 3inch in and out. Not sure what size that metal adaptor they show is. I dont have that part. Maybe 3-4inch? Anyhow, I'm not sure on how quick you want to do this but I will be in the future upgrading the airbox and snorkel on mine. So the lid will be up for grabs. Might save you some coin as those lids are a bit exy...

[Hodge]

Sounds good mate as I will only be doing the IC to begin with. ..

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[Hodge]

Removed the butterfly plate while had the IC apart for cleaning and checking... Should help a bit .

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[nissannewby]

I wouldnt stuff about with the factory box. There are just to many downfalls with it. A 4" intake even to the ht18 will net you good gains in response. I would do the airbox/snorkel and the ic upgrade.

The ARE item can be used with the standard scoop but as with any cooler you will see gains with the better scoop. I have seen the ARE items in person. I have actually used ARE quite a bit. They are a quality item and are an aussie company that do great work.

[Hodge]

Alright ... Just came back from a weekend away and it was the first real test of the 4.2 while in my hands.
The car went a bit shit in the power / EGT department... Few know the route from Melbourne to Mansfield via King lake, Yea, etc... Has a few slight hills, and some go for a few K's. When the car even sniffed those hills, it was a case of drop it back to 4th and eventually 3rd, because it just felt sluggish and if I kept it in higher gears, the EGT's went off the charts. Shoots straight to 400-500 range before I back off... I don't know what the coolant was doing exactly because the gauge was just frozen at 21C the whole weekend.

Now I know not to expect super power from the 4.2 and not to expect to climb those hills in 5th but still, this ain't right. Even doing 100 on a flat, it's sitting 300-350C or so, is this common ??

Really need to do something about it. I haven't had a tune yet? Because after I dropped the exhaust in it and then loaded her up with 33's the whole power characteristic of the car changed... And I remember Mark from JPC told me it would need to be re-touched to bring it back to the proper boost/fuel ratios due to the exhaust... Unsure whether that'll make any difference.

As per a few posts earlier, I wasn't going to touch the engine much apart from the IC and air intake like Matt suggested later on but this may have to come sooner than though. :confused:

[nissannewby]

Sounds about right for a stocker. I would also have a good think about a diff ratio swap especially if your are more than likely gonna stay with the 33" soze tyres. The 3.9 gears are just to low in my opinion.

A tune will help but I would wait until you do the other things you are contemplating before spending more money on a tune.

500c is ok as a max for prolonged periods say a few minutes. It might be hard but dont stress to much about it getting to 400 just try to keep 500 as your max. What sort of boost are you running currently?

[Hodge]

Thanks Matt. I have not touched the boost at all. It is whatever it is out of factory. It maxes out at 10 no matter how hard I push it...

[nissannewby]

Sounds about right.

[Rocket55]

Hey Eric, there should be plenty left in it for you. I picked my wagon up in East ?? Melbourne (Lilydale) and drove it home through the hills to Mansfield then onto Sydney. I went up them in 5th no probs at 100 or so. When I got mine it was running the standard air intake and snorkel, 12psi, 3" exhaust and a tune. I didn't have an EGT gauge in it at the time so I guess ignorance is bliss. As Matt says, don't stress about seeing 400, or even 500 if for short periods. I start to watch mine when it gets to about 500 (vertical on the VDO) until then I don't worry about it.

[Hodge]

Cheers Rod.
I drove the same route back in september. But i had stock wheels and tyres and had no roof rack. I also didn't have the gauges, so have no clue what temps were doing and yeah it was fine with those hills. However, it's Different now ...

As I said, I'm not after nor do I expect super power from it. I am 90% positive I won't be towing a caravan or camper trailer or anything for many years to come . I'd just like to have it running "right" . If that makes sense. I'm happy to drive it around like a truck chugging along...
But yeah, after this weekend gone I need to do something...

Matt, it never ever crossed my mind about the diffs. I will do some reading as I'm fairly naive when it comes to that. Cheers.

[Rocket55]

I was on standard gearing and 33's (still am). 3" exhaust, 12-13psi and get it tuned and it'll be heaps better than stock. That's how mine was when I picked it up and I drove Melbourne to Sydney on cruise in 5th the whole way, maybe except for 1-2 hills.

[threedogs]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BLUE-ANDERSON-PLUG-MOUNTING-KIT-50A-MOUNT-COVER-DUST-CAP-EXTERNAL-TRAILER-/331428113869?hash=item4d2aa7adcd
This may be ok for your solar plug at the front, I just brought the red one it is lockable and has led lights

[threedogs]

What sat on 21c surely not water temp. and water temps will have nothing to do with your EGTs.
Id think your water temps should be about 85c to 90c

[Hodge]

What sat on 21c surely not water temp. and water temps will have nothing to do with your EGTs.
Id think your water temps should be about 85c to 90c
Nah the gauge or the redarc gauge receiver is broken so it's always frozen on 21 now ... so couldn't get true coolant Temps.

Water Temps will be influenced by egts. Engine gets hot from egts which in turn heats up the cooling system. ..

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[nissannewby]

These red arc gauges dont really seem to be worth the while

[threedogs]

Nah the gauge or the redarc gauge receiver is broken so it's always frozen on 21 now ... so couldn't get true coolant Temps.

Water Temps will be influenced by egts. Engine gets hot from egts which in turn heats up the cooling system. ..

Tapatalked from S6

Your thermostat will regulate your water temps

[Bloodyaussie]

These red arc gauges dont really seem to be worth the while

I have heard a number of people with issues with red arc and hard to justify the cost when the reliability is not there.

[nissannewby]

Your thermostat will regulate your water temps

Thermostat regulates flow which allows more flow to radiator thus exchanging the higher temps.

The cooling system can only do so much. If egts are sustained at 450+ degrees for a long time they will have an effect on coolant temperature if the system cannot cope.

[mudski]

Thermostat regulates flow which allows more flow to radiator thus exchanging the higher temps.

The cooling system can only do so much. If egts are sustained at 450+ degrees for a long time they will have an effect on coolant temperature if the system cannot cope.

Yeah I noticed this on my trip up the south coast of NSW. If I kept my EGT's under 240c, my water temps would sit on 90c, sometimes 85c. If I held the EGT's at 260c, my water temps would rise 5c.

[Kimbo63]

I use the pro sport premium peak hold gauges find them very accurate I wrot to the company a few years ago begging them to do a metric version few month later they wrote back and said all done great company to deal with they keep their prices down by relying on word of mouth marketing so I speak out any how check em out here
http://prosportgauges.com
I have just read your thread in full now there is a post on inter cooler regarding dust on front part of cooler the answer for that is the oppersite to what was said the dust will indicate that no air is going through there
In regards to your EGT as mentioned it ok at that temp but a better ic and scoop would bring it down also give the girl some boost 15-16 psi will help EGT as well and should help you keep it in 5th longer
Cheers Kimbo

[Kimbo63]

Couple of photos for you 64744 64745 64746
First one gauges day time running
Second one night time running
Last one ARE scoop love that thing
Very easy to wire up you just run one set of power wires up to the first gauge comes supplied then use the dasiy wires also supplied to connect the rest then ofcourse sensor and sensor wires to each gauge also in kit
Cheers Kimbo

[Bloodyaussie]

I use the pro sport premium peak hold gauges find them very accurate I wrot to the company a few years ago begging them to do a metric version few month later they wrote back and said all done great company to deal with they keep their prices down by relying on word of mouth marketing so I speak out any how check em out here
http://prosportgauges.com
I have just read your thread in full now there is a post on inter cooler regarding dust on front part of cooler the answer for that is the oppersite to what was said the dust will indicate that no air is going through there
In regards to your EGT as mentioned it ok at that temp but a better ic and scoop would bring it down also give the girl some boost 15-16 psi will help EGT as well and should help you keep it in 5th longer
Cheers Kimbo

Funny when Eric came round last week he mentioned the the dust test i was thinking how i did not think that was right... thanks to my ridiculously large bonnet scoop my egt's have come down heaps and are rarely an issue.

[threedogs]

Funny when Eric came round last week he mentioned the the dust test i was thinking how i did not think that was right... thanks to my ridiculously large bonnet scoop my egt's have come down heaps and are rarely an issue.

Thats not a scoop its a kennel for those 2 jack russels of yours LOL
Yeah love the ARE scoop

@ Kimbo attachments not working

[Kimbo63]

Any one else having problem with attachment ? Done from my iPad works ok for me

[threedogs]

Any one else having problem with attachment ? Done from my iPad works ok for me

Im on a lap top so not working this end

@ Eric would you say the condition of your
IC could be the reason for your higher EGTs
Why not fit a small water to air number ???

[mudski]

Any one else having problem with attachment ? Done from my iPad works ok for me
Yeah i cant see them via tappa....

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[Kimbo63]

Just a test of image 1 if no good will hop on the lap top
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[Kimbo63]

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[Kimbo63]

No364751 more words too short lol

[Hodge]

Ok, thanks heaps for the suggestions Kimbo and others... Lot of reading and info to absorb lol.

First off, I'm now a tad wary of my redarc gauge, and it's accuracy is in question. I double and triple checked everything this afternoon, every connection and cable before going to redarc about it... The water temp is still stuck on 21C and it ain't changing. I have 2 different senders and both do the same thing. That eliminated the sender unit. A little while back after fitting the gauge and EGT probe, I posted that I could not get the EGT's to go up much... (How ironic is it that I wish it were like that this weekend gone. Bang Head)...
However, its done the same thing today.... But corrected it's self later on.

Had tower rescue training today and another bloke in the class had a serious bit of 4.2 rig, turns out he used to work for some diesel mob in WA , i forget the name... I told him of my woes and after going for a spin, he reckons the boost is way way too low at 10(max) and no way would the 4.2 pulling my setup, be able to sustain even smaller hills in 5th... Really should get it tuned a bit to about 14-16psi. He strongly suggested an ARE IC unit as well with their scoop, he had one on his ute and reckons it does wonders for the temps. I just reckon that narrow and tall scoop is butt ugly and belongs on the drag cars.... but thats just my thoughts.

He also said that I am somewhat lazy with the revs... should do my best not to drive it in the 2000-4000 band , apart from taking off. I know thats when I had the most power at foot, but I let the revs fall way too much in-between the gear changes.
I cruise in 4th, say 60km/h and it's around 1800RPM from memory,if i drop to 3rd Just seems like it's revving for nothing then and burning juice.

On my way home I dropped into JPC and spoke to the tuner there and he assures me he can fix it easily on the dyno and even after a quick tune I won't know the car. Just needs to brought up to scratch to match the exhaust and bigger tyres.
She is going in later this week. I've also ordered the IC in hope it arrives before the tune.

[Kimbo63]

They do look a bit drag car like but I thin it will grow on you I love it for it's cooling effect sorry to bombard you with info no intent to confuse you just got excited reading your thread lol
I'm sure you will sort your truck out in your own time keep up the good work mate

[Hodge]

They do look a bit drag car like but I thin it will grow on you I love it for it's cooling effect sorry to bombard you with info no intent to confuse you just got excited reading your thread lol
I'm sure you will sort your truck out in your own time keep up the good work mate

Thanks Kimbo. The more info the better as far as I'm concerned. And no confusion at all, it's clear I need to do a few things to get it to where I want it to be... Just need to decide which way I'll go about it.

[threedogs]

Dont you have to match the ohm of the sender unit to the gauge,???
I dont even know my scoop is there lol
I just played with my water temp Guage and just putting power to it it showed 40c
with no sender, got me thinking maybe your sender wire is at fault.

[Hodge]

I shouldn't have to match shit the whole thing is plug and play out of the box. Looks like I'll be gutting the whole thing and sending back to redarc.

Tapatalked from S6

[mudski]

Ok, thanks heaps for the suggestions Kimbo and others... Lot of reading and info to absorb lol.

First off, I'm now a tad wary of my redarc gauge, and it's accuracy is in question. I double and triple checked everything this afternoon, every connection and cable before going to redarc about it... The water temp is still stuck on 21C and it ain't changing. I have 2 different senders and both do the same thing. That eliminated the sender unit. A little while back after fitting the gauge and EGT probe, I posted that I could not get the EGT's to go up much... (How ironic is it that I wish it were like that this weekend gone. Bang Head)...
However, its done the same thing today.... But corrected it's self later on.

Had tower rescue training today and another bloke in the class had a serious bit of 4.2 rig, turns out he used to work for some diesel mob in WA , i forget the name... I told him of my woes and after going for a spin, he reckons the boost is way way too low at 10(max) and no way would the 4.2 pulling my setup, be able to sustain even smaller hills in 5th... Really should get it tuned a bit to about 14-16psi. He strongly suggested an ARE IC unit as well with their scoop, he had one on his ute and reckons it does wonders for the temps. I just reckon that narrow and tall scoop is butt ugly and belongs on the drag cars.... but thats just my thoughts.

He also said that I am somewhat lazy with the revs... should do my best not to drive it in the 2000-4000 band , apart from taking off. I know thats when I had the most power at foot, but I let the revs fall way too much in-between the gear changes.
I cruise in 4th, say 60km/h and it's around 1800RPM from memory,if i drop to 3rd Just seems like it's revving for nothing then and burning juice.

On my way home I dropped into JPC and spoke to the tuner there and he assures me he can fix it easily on the dyno and even after a quick tune I won't know the car. Just needs to brought up to scratch to match the exhaust and bigger tyres.
She is going in later this week. I've also ordered the IC in hope it arrives before the tune.

Dont bother with the ARE scoop mate. I sold my ARE second hand, for the same price I bought the Fairline one new. Much bigger than what your cooler is, But even Jonathan is using one on his teeny IC and says his temps are cooler....

[Bloodyaussie]

My RX7 intercooler was doing a good job but after fitting the Huge Fairlane scoop the temps were much better so am in no rush at all to swap my intercooler.

I cannot stand the look of those ARE scoops and for the price struggle to justify them.... just a bloody seat cowl for a motorbike and I never paid that much for one.

[Kimbo63]

Dont bother with the ARE scoop mate. I sold my ARE second hand, for the same price I bought the Fairline one new. Much bigger than what your cooler is, But even Jonathan is using one on his teeny IC and says his temps are cooler....
Hey mudski
Why did you sell your ARE scoop? Was it for the looks or performance reasons?
Cheers Kimbo

[Hodge]

Hey mudski
Why did you sell your ARE scoop? Was it for the looks or performance reasons?
Cheers Kimbo
He's got a cross country IC now and bought the wider scoop to cover the whole ic.

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[Hodge]

On the dyno tomorrow... Will see how she comes up. Fingers crossed.
The bloke there told me exactly what Matt suggested, apart from the tune, inter-cooler etc... Definitely think about moving away from 3.9's...

[mudski]

Hey mudski
Why did you sell your ARE scoop? Was it for the looks or performance reasons?
Cheers Kimbo
Not wide enough for the CC ultimate cooler. The ARE was effective though, just way over the top on price considering how much my scoop cost and it was new too.

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[Kimbo63]

Not wide enough for the CC ultimate cooler. The ARE was effective though, just way over the top on price considering how much my scoop cost and it was new too.

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No prob mate yes it is costly but reading the website story a lot of research has gone in to making this a very effective direct bolt on alternative to the factory scoop I'm currently in the progress of setting up a new business and will have my own dyno so I'll do some of my own research and keep yous all posted on outcomes
Cheers Kimbo

[Kimbo63]

On the dyno tomorrow... Will see how she comes up. Fingers crossed.
The bloke there told me exactly what Matt suggested, apart from the tune, inter-cooler etc... Definitely think about moving away from 3.9's...
You might Change your mind ones tuned regarding diff ratio unless your towing a big caravan but time will tell exciting times ahead good luck with it mate

[Hodge]

You might Change your mind ones tuned regarding diff ratio unless your towing a big caravan but time will tell exciting times ahead good luck with it mate
Thanks mate. it's on the rollers now so will see how she comes up. I'll never tow anything so that eliminates that would be good to put the $ towards something else though...


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[nissannewby]

Make sure its in 4th :p

[Hodge]

Make sure its in 4th :p
Hahaha hope so I've left the place now picking it up later .

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[mudski]

Make sure its in 4th [emoji14]
They do it in 4th. Last tune on mine i watched and it was in 4th. Plus my crash cam was on with sound and i could hear them changing the gears up to 4th.

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[nissannewby]

They do it in 4th. Last tune on mine i watched and it was in 4th. Plus my crash cam was on with sound and i could hear them changing the gears up to 4th.

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Was that when it went back after your trip?

[Hodge]

Made around 25 extra kw top end. Drive home, the power curve felt much more linear. Gonna go lug it up on the freeway now to see if she sings a different tune... Will report back.

Boost now sits 16-17 rather than maxing out at 10 prior.


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[mudski]

Was that when it went back after your trip?
Yeah it was. And its been back in again since, it was driving like it was but still on the smokey side. They spent a while tuning it and got it now so I can see who's behind me when it hit the loud pedal without losing any power from before.

Made around 25 extra kw top end. Drive home, the power curve felt much more linear. Gonna go lug it up on the freeway now to see if she sings a different tune... Will report back.

Boost now sits 16-17 rather than maxing out at 10 prior.


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I just popped in to JPC's just after you left... So its much better yeah?

[jff45]

Is that 16 - 17 psi with a stock HT18 turbo?

[Bloodyaussie]

Here is mine with a 10mm pump... think its about 14-15 pound of boost.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/02/127.jpg

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[Hodge]

I just popped in to JPC's just after you left... So its much better yeah?

Seems like its the place to be .When I was there initially I saw Jonathans car, and didnt see him he was at the back . Then he rang me after and gave me a lift there.... Cheers !!


And yeah it's a different beast now, up above 60, little gain down lower end but not much just a much linear response but up high end its now really good.
Extra boost helped EGT a bit however still need the IC.

[Hodge]

Is that 16 - 17 psi with a stock HT18 turbo?

Yes mate. Stock turbo.

[threedogs]

Im thinking your EGTs are much lower as well ???

EDIT:: forgot about your IC did they say how much difference it would make

[Hodge]

He said the stock IC are ok for stock cooling purposes but, they tend to become a massive heat soak at prolonged exposure to high temps and takes ages to cool down ... Which is exactly what I found up in the hills. Fan would also help but most beneficial would be the scoop I reckon.

[nissannewby]

Here is mine with a 10mm pump... think its about 14-15 pound of boost.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/02/127.jpg

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Can you post that with the bottom of the graph showing please?

[threedogs]

He said the stock IC are ok for stock cooling purposes but, they tend to become a massive heat soak at prolonged exposure to high temps and takes ages to cool down ... Which is exactly what I found up in the hills. Fan would also help but most beneficial would be the scoop I reckon.

Maybe pop down to Jaycar and see what heat sinks they have that may help
dissipate the heat, maybe even gold heat tape up the end tanks

[nissannewby]

He said the stock IC are ok for stock cooling purposes but, they tend to become a massive heat soak at prolonged exposure to high temps and takes ages to cool down ... Which is exactly what I found up in the hills. Fan would also help but most beneficial would be the scoop I reckon.

Stock purposes means stock. Running the ht18 at 17psi is getting up there and is more than likely outside of its efficiency range so the stock ic job is now a little harder than before. They will handle the pressure as I have run a stock one at 30psi (stock ic).

Will be interested of your thoughts after a a few weeks of operation.

[Bloodyaussie]

Can you post that with the bottom of the graph showing please?
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/02/128.jpg

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[Hodge]

This will sound pretty dumb, but I just realized my exhaust system isn't running a cat lol. When it was ordered and fitted, I can't remember being asked about one ??? I've been concerned about not running a muffler the whole time (which is now back on)... but the CAT never crossed my mind.
Was outside earlier, trying to re-do some mounts to push it away from the shaft and then it occurred to me... Wheres the cat? lol


Edit:
I can't even remember seeing one on the factory exhaust ....

[Hodge]

Stock purposes means stock. Running the ht18 at 17psi is getting up there and is more than likely outside of its efficiency range so the stock ic job is now a little harder than before. They will handle the pressure as I have run a stock one at 30psi (stock ic).

Will be interested of your thoughts after a a few weeks of operation.

I will report back as I go along mate.
I'm off to have a look at a HPD intercooler on saturday. It's the stage 2 larger version with the big scoop. This one is second hand, off a mangled 4.2Ti ute, but missing the piping... and the scoop is white so.... fingers crossed.

[Rocket55]

I'm a dog person, so no cats allowed in my wagon.

[nissannewby]

This will sound pretty dumb, but I just realized my exhaust system isn't running a cat lol. When it was ordered and fitted, I can't remember being asked about one ??? I've been concerned about not running a muffler the whole time (which is now back on)... but the CAT never crossed my mind.
Was outside earlier, trying to re-do some mounts to push it away from the shaft and then it occurred to me... Wheres the cat? lol


Edit:
I can't even remember seeing one on the factory exhaust ....

No cat on a 4.2 mate. Even from factor

[jay see]

This will sound pretty dumb, but I just realized my exhaust system isn't running a cat lol. When it was ordered and fitted, I can't remember being asked about one ??? I've been concerned about not running a muffler the whole time (which is now back on)... but the CAT never crossed my mind.
Was outside earlier, trying to re-do some mounts to push it away from the shaft and then it occurred to me... Wheres the cat? lol


Edit:
I can't even remember seeing one on the factory exhaust ....

Isn't a cat used only on petrol vehicles ???

[Winnie]

Isn't a cat used only on petrol vehicles ???
No there are diesel catalytic converters on newer model cars.

[jay see]

No there are diesel catalytic converters on newer model cars.

Ok. Must be showing my age.

See learn something new every day.

[Hodge]

Yeah as Matt said newer diesels have the cat and/or that diesel particulate filter burn off thing. ..

Well good news then lol.

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[Hodge]

First highway report is its a different car that's for sure. When I got up in the 70kmh + range it went like shit of a shovel in contrast to before the tune. It was a mild morning and egts were kept very tame as well.
Happy so far. Will see how she goes later ...

Very keen to see this hpd ic I might have lined up for my self with the scoop. Just getting in touch with hpd to get a hose set might prove interesting after the phone call I just made ...

I've cancelled the order on the cheapo thought I'd do it right the first time.

Matt. Probably know the answer but I thought I'd ask .
Under the hood would there be any difference between a wagon td42ti or a ute td42ti ?

The IC setup I'm eyeing is off a td42ti ute brackets and all ... just want to confirm before I take the plunge .

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[nissannewby]

Shouldnt be any difference mate.

[Hodge]

Shouldnt be any difference mate.
Cheers.

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[threedogs]

First highway report is its a different car that's for sure. When I got up in the 70kmh + range it went like shit of a shovel in contrast to before the tune. It was a mild morning and egts were kept very tame as well.
Happy so far. Will see how she goes later ...

Very keen to see this hpd ic I might have lined up for my self with the scoop. Just getting in touch with hpd to get a hose set might prove interesting after the phone call I just made ...

I've cancelled the order on the cheapo thought I'd do it right the first time.

Matt. Probably know the answer but I thought I'd ask .
Under the hood would there be any difference between a wagon td42ti or a ute td42ti ?

The IC setup I'm eyeing is off a td42ti ute brackets and all ... just want to confirm before I take the plunge .

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Who's a happy camper then, sounds like these 4.2's like a bit of boost
and freeflowing exhaust to keep them humming along.
Fuel figures must be better to I'd imagine

[Hodge]

Yeah different car.
On the way home today my foot got heavy and itchy lol so wanted to see how she really dances and bloody hell she has some go now in the high end department ...
So the egts where I'd normally easily hit 400 now didn't go over 325...
However if I really sink the ankle into it she reaches 400+ quickly. ..
But I don't need to do that any more as she has much more go under lighter foot...

So fingers crossed this hpd ic works out! Looking at it tomorrow.

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[Rocket55]

Awesome to hear!! Just wait till you put a different turbo and pump on, then you'll be smiling!!

[Hodge]

Going to walk away from the series 2 HPD intercooler and scoop, that I had lined up. In a nutshell it's the one below. But second hand, off a written off 42ti ute... The setup on the car has the hpd airbox cover too and piping but that is all mangled... The complete piping from ic to turbo and ic to manifold is gone (sold)... So I'd have to source that as well. the scoop is white but has marks on it so it'd have to be repainted. Was hoping the bonnet would be ok too but that was beyond repair.
Also IC had oil on it so unsure whether it was damaged or it was leaking....
The wrecker wanted 1400, 600 below for the price i could get the whole kit new.

Anyways Back to the drawing board.
For the $ of this new kit a few extra 100 would give me the ultimate cross country package. So will have to rethink ...


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[Hodge]

Noticed this morning that Aircon ON RPM is slightly higher than it used to be... Definitely noticeable. I think normal idle revs are 600?? Usually aircon revs are up just slightly, but now they jump to 900... Is this something the tuner would have touched I'm guessing somewhere at the pump ??

[nissannewby]

Noticed this morning that Aircon ON RPM is slightly higher than it used to be... Definitely noticeable. I think normal idle revs are 600?? Usually aircon revs are up just slightly, but now they jump to 900... Is this something the tuner would have touched I'm guessing somewhere at the pump ??

Sounds like they have adjusted the fuel screw which is odd for a stock setup. It is easily adjusted if you wanted to have a go by yourself. Although it is something they should have done.

[Hodge]

Sounds like they have adjusted the fuel screw which is odd for a stock setup. It is easily adjusted if you wanted to have a go by yourself. Although it is something they should have done.

Thanks Matt. I parked up, shut off, walked into Bunnings for 5 minutes, walked out, got going and it corrected itself ??? :confused:
JPC is 500m from Bunnings so was gonna drive there but then it come good.
Will keep an eye on it ...

[Hodge]

Cancel the fix. .. it seems to be doing it on and off.
The vacuum valve attached to the pump could be getting stuck or something? ?


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[threedogs]

do all vacuum hoses appear in good nic ?

[nissannewby]

The small ac idle up diaphragm has a small screw and locknut on it. You can use this to adjust it. As 3d has said double check the vac lines are connect and havent been bumped when they have tuned it.

[threedogs]

As you are spending Mega $$$ on this air box inter cooler set up,
would it be more efficient to say run a Water to air IC to achieve
the same thing.
What going to give you more bang for your Buck??

[Hodge]

The small ac idle up diaphragm has a small screw and locknut on it. You can use this to adjust it. As 3d has said double check the vac lines are connect and havent been bumped when they have tuned it.

Thanks Matt. Once again it stopped doing it and now I can't replicate it again.
I checked all vac hoses in the vicinity and traced them around the engine bay and can't really see anything lose... Once again will keep an eye out on it.
Obviously the bloke disturbed something.

[jff45]

If you have a defective hose and no vacuum in the hose, you have no fast idle. It needs the vacuum to pull the lever on the pump.

[mudski]

Check this scoop out Eric. Might be a worthy candidate?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/111892153456?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[threedogs]

http://www.guidebooks.com.au/ourvehicle%20under%20bonnet.htm

Hi Eric scroll down to the radiator section ,very interesting real world
issues, some sensible mods overall too, Ron's a friend so if you need extra info
just yell out

[Hodge]

The mighty 4.2 has been parked for many weeks now. Drove it a bit to say Hi to mudski the other day and thats about it.
As per the post in happy thread. Everything is pointing to parting with her due to company car. If it eventuates, shes gone.
But no decisions made yet.
Watch this space.

[Rocket55]

You too :(

[nissannewby]

To bad these things will be outside of my budget.

[Winnie]

To bad these things will be outside of my budget.
Would be awesome hey mate... Hey rocket I'll give you 10 grand for your GU?

[Rocket55]

Would be awesome hey mate... Hey rocket I'll give you 10 grand for your GU?

Cough cough, pardon, I can't hear you :p

[Hodge]

You too :(

Mines a maybe still... Still sort of sinking in over a few cold ones after a work meeting today.

Ironically , this happens after I priced up gear from UFI and making a deposit too, so I saved a few thou possibly lucky I didnt pay the full amount and got the gear.

[Rocket55]

Timing is everything as they say, as long as you don't end up swapping the Patrol for a Camry...

[nissannewby]

Cough cough, pardon, I can't hear you :p

25K ?? its 11 years old now and been thrashed :P

[Rocket55]

25K ?? its 11 years old now and been thrashed :P

Haha you funny guy :p It's the Jewel of the Patrol crown that's now discontinued, that makes it a collectors item.. :Yahoo!:

Seriously, not really sure what it's worth, I've seen them everywhere from mid 50's to mid 20's. I never really seen such a range for the same car before.

[jay see]

If you do get the work car, maybe hang on to it for a while, just to make sure that you don't regret it.

[Sir Roofy]

The mighty 4.2 has been parked for many weeks now. Drove it a bit to say Hi to mudski the other day and thats about it.
As per the post in happy thread. Everything is pointing to parting with her due to company car. If it eventuates, shes gone.
But no decisions made yet.
Watch this space.

You can park it in my yard take note of the ks when you leave it they will be twice
what you wrote down be used every second w/end of course if want to use it that's ok

[TPC]

You can park it in my yard take note of the ks when you leave it they will be twice
what you wrote down be used every second w/end of course if want to use it that's ok

That is a very good offer, keeping his Patrol from seizing up and not even charging him for the service.

[lucus30]

Don't sell it....

[threedogs]

Dreams are made of this ,,I mean who wouldn't like a smick 4.2TD sitting in the garage as a doer upper.
Or just drag it out every other weekend. I now what Id be doing, so this is the end of your 4x4 and camping.
doesn't sound right, Ive been going out bush camping for longer than I care to remember to just stop wouldnt
be an option for me anyway, I love my fishing and camping way too much. I love our outdoor lifestyle

[gubigfish]

Well if your company car is anything like mine you'll end up keeping it. I can't take mine outside the metro area unless I get approval from the Boss and so far that hasn't happened. I couldn't sell my Patrol its too nice to drive and I would just regret it.

[mudski]

Dreams are made of this ,,I mean who wouldn't like a smick 4.2TD sitting in the garage as a doer upper.
Or just drag it out every other weekend. I now what Id be doing, so this is the end of your 4x4 and camping.
doesn't sound right, Ive been going out bush camping for longer than I care to remember to just stop wouldnt
be an option for me anyway, I love my fishing and camping way too much. I love our outdoor lifestyle
I see where Eric is coming from though John. You need to see where he lives. He has a toilet for a single car garage. Lol. and he already has two cars.

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[Hodge]

so this is the end of your 4x4 and camping.

No chance in hell. Love my camping. This position I might be getting into, I've been waiting for a very very long time, way before I owned 4x4's etc... And if it means a vehicle re-arrangement, so be it, but i'll still be going bush , even if it has to be set back a little bit.

As far as I'm concerned at this stage business as usual, rumbling around in the 4.2 ... Once the hammer falls and I know where I stand, then I'll make some decisions.

[Bloodyaussie]

Ill buy your car... mates rates of course.

[threedogs]

Where Im seeing it its like you're not just getting rid of a Patrol you're losing the ability to go
to remote places and simple sit and chill or wet a line, even my old 68 ford ute had a dual battery system
so I could get out camping. Just to throw all that away doesnt seem right you'd be miserable for the rest of your life.
Unless of course Eric wasnt really into 4x4ing then yes get rid of it so someone else can enjoy his work.

[Hodge]

The ancient factory "cassette" player completely retired so it was time to upgrade ... Can't drive without music even though it rarely gets driven nowdays!
Lucky I kept this from the 3.0L.

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[Rocket55]

Nice! Did you hook up the reverse camera?

[Hodge]

Nice! Did you hook up the reverse camera?

I didn't mate when I took this out of the old patrol, I left the camera on it. That's on the to do list. Have to buy one actually.
I'll wait for decision at work before spending more $ on it.

[jay see]

Once the hammer falls and I know where I stand, then I'll make some decisions.

Well said.:thumbup:

[Hodge]

Well she ain't going anywhere after this morning ... So good news in that regard!!

Since shes staying and about to kiss the mighty 100k on the ODO, it's time to kick the cooling system in the guts. Which I've procrastinated on for a while now.
Got a few parts today.
Got all the coolant, some belts, all the thermostat cover gaskets and bolts to be replaced including the notorious long ones...

Just waiting for another belt and the high flow pump is at JPC with my name on it.

Anything else I should do while at it ? At least top and bottom rad. hose ? The current ones look ok.

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[Winnie]

Replace the hoses and keep the old ones as a spare, store them in the rear quarter panels.

[threedogs]

I think you would of kicked yourself if you had to sell your Patrol.
To others this is a patrol of a lifetime, and be treated with longevity
in mind
Its a Patrol that lifetime memories are made in

[Hodge]

Replace the hoses and keep the old ones as a spare, store them in the rear quarter panels.

Hoses ordered. Just noticed Patrolapart have a absolute complete set of coolant hoses for sub $500, including everything!

Genuine Nissan Hose Kit Suit TD42Ti Engines with EGR (http://patrolapart.com.au/product/genuine-nissan-hose-kit-suit-td42ti-engines-with-egr/genuine-nissan-hose-kit-suit-td42ti-engines-with-egr)
Maybe thats too extreme, so just gonna replace the big top and bottom units for now.

And the other news tonight is my clutch is on it's last legs. Been having a slight clunk everytime I depress it for a while now and seems to be more and more common, and was ad Mudskis earlier and he had a go and yeah, we think it's having it's last drinks.

Little while ago, when I was in the high country, I was having a go at this steep incline and all of a sudden it felt like I hit something, but i didn't. And realized I was going backwards with foot still on the accelerator and engine returning to idle. I guess this was it giving way.
But other then that I've had no issues with it , except that "clunk" sounds every time I come off it .

[nissannewby]

That kit looks good. I paid around the 600 mark when I did all the hoses, thermostat and caps.

[mudski]

Hoses ordered. Just noticed Patrolapart have a absolute complete set of coolant hoses for sub $500, including everything!

Genuine Nissan Hose Kit Suit TD42Ti Engines with EGR (http://patrolapart.com.au/product/genuine-nissan-hose-kit-suit-td42ti-engines-with-egr/genuine-nissan-hose-kit-suit-td42ti-engines-with-egr)


Maybe thats too extreme, so just gonna replace the big top and bottom units for now.

And the other news tonight is my clutch is on it's last legs. Been having a slight clunk everytime I depress it for a while now and seems to be more and more common, and was ad Mudskis earlier and he had a go and yeah, we think it's having it's last drinks.

Little while ago, when I was in the high country, I was having a go at this steep incline and all of a sudden it felt like I hit something, but i didn't. And realized I was going backwards with foot still on the accelerator and engine returning to idle. I guess this was it giving way.
But other then that I've had no issues with it , except that "clunk" sounds every time I come off it .

Considering the clutch was engaging when you just about had your foot off the pedal. I think its done and dusted just about.

[Hodge]

That kit looks good. I paid around the 600 mark when I did all the hoses, thermostat and caps.

Yeah was very tempted to snapping it, but it may be an overkill. Maybe at 200k. lol


Considering the clutch was engaging when you just about had your foot off the pedal. I think its done and dusted just about.

Yeah I think shes had enough just about. So hurry up declare your clutch as fine, so I can grab your parts lol.

[threedogs]

So Winnie,,BA,,,Mudski and your good self all need new clutches
should do a bulk buy if you ask me, LOL

[Winnie]

So Winnie,,BA,,,Mudski and your good self all need new clutches
should do a bulk buy if you ask me, LOL

My clutch is fine. The hydraulic system is what is failing.

[mudski]

Yeah I think shes had enough just about. So hurry up declare your clutch as fine, so I can grab your parts lol.

Just got a call fron JPC. Clutch is good. Im no so convinced. Going there soon to see their reasons.

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[nissannewby]

Do they have a way of testing the pressure plates there?

[mudski]

Do they have a way of testing the pressure plates there?
Not sure Mat but Clutch Industries is right around the corner and they can test them. Anyhow, it is not my clutch, is the flex join in the exhaust we think. Since this section is bolted to the gear box the vibration must have rattled the inside section lose. I will be looking closer at this tomorrow.

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[Hodge]

Marvelous! Just scored a 4terrain clutch !

[threedogs]

And a great box the store gear in LOL

[Hodge]

And a great box the store gear in LOL
65384

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[Winnie]

65384

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4terrain clutches come in an awesome wooden crate with a hinge lid and rope handles.

[Hodge]

I see now. Awesome.

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[threedogs]

Ill put a pic of one of mine here.
They are about 350 x 350 x 200
very handy for camp cooking gear
just needs a hasp and pin lock and you"re away

[Hodge]

Bought an awesome wooden box before. They threw in some circular metal bits inside, farked if I know what for ...


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[Rossco]

Bought an awesome wooden box before. They threw in some circular metal bits inside, farked if I know what for ...


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Ah you don't want those, I can take them off your hands if you like. . . Nice box tho!!

[mudski]

Yeah i was spewin' he found out about the box. I could have used another 4T box for storage. Lol.

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[Hodge]

Yeah i was spewin' he found out about the box. I could have used another 4T box for storage. Lol.

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Haha yeah thanks to Mudski for this awesome box with bits of metal inside he didn't need.

[Hodge]

That kit looks good. I paid around the 600 mark when I did all the hoses, thermostat and caps.


Bought an awesome wooden box before. They threw in some circular metal bits inside, farked if I know what for ...


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JPC won't fit me in till way after easter but at least then the whole lot will get done in one shot. Clutch, water pump, cooling system, etc...
Also the Cross country cooler is ordered again as of this evening too so, roughly 6 weeks of waiting to grow balls big enough to cut into the bonnet.

[Winnie]

JPC won't fit me in till way after easter but at least then the whole lot will get done in one shot. Clutch, water pump, cooling system, etc...
Also the Cross country cooler is ordered again as of this evening too so, roughly 6 weeks of waiting to grow balls big enough to cut into the bonnet.
I would be surprised if you actually receive within 6 weeks

[mudski]

I would be surprised if you actually receive within 6 weeks

I got my CC in three. I think it was.... Surprised Mark cant fit you in. I rang him last week for the clutch and I took it in yesterday...

[Hodge]

I got my CC in three. I think it was.... Surprised Mark cant fit you in. I rang him last week for the clutch and I took it in yesterday...
Being 2 long weekends easter and all i guess filled up . No hurry from my end. Unless the thing lets go lol.

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[Hodge]

Went for a quick overnighter up north, first time since car was tuned. Bit more power than last time, but the EGT's were a worry again.
A lot of the time even a slight long incline id' have to cruise up in 4th sitting in high 350-400, mostly in the higher range.
Really hoping the CC cooler fixes this a bit. But other than that the car went great.

[nissannewby]

The bigger cooler will help.

Dont be to stressed about 350-400 though. Remember 500 is a safe max for sustained periods.

[threedogs]

Ive scored 3 of those boxes over the years ,very very handy,
light sturdy what more could you want.
See they've changed the logo a tad

[Hodge]

The bigger cooler will help.

Dont be to stressed about 350-400 though. Remember 500 is a safe max for sustained periods.

Yeah fair enough. I know 350-400 is ok for the motor. What concerns me more is the fact even the slightest inclines send it into that range after a while. I guess once the heat soaks into the factory IC, it becomes an issue.
For example a slight steady incline that goes for 2-3 or mo KM's. Really looking forward to the cooler now.

[Bacho86]

Well she ain't going anywhere after this morning ... So good news in that regard!!

Good to hear you're keeping the patrol for now mate, after you just got the 4.2 and all!! Hope everything works out at work for the best.


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[Hodge]

What would cause my rear diff to spew oil out the filler plug? Blocked breathers ? It's only started last 2-3 days....

[jff45]

First thing that comes to mind is that the filler plug hasn't been tightened..

[Rossco]

First thing that comes to mind is that the filler plug hasn't been tightened..
Or it's fallen out . . .

[Hodge]

But I've never touched it and hasn't leaked in the 8 months I've owned it ...

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[nissannewby]

Check its tension while your checking the breather line.

[MB]

G'day Hodge,

It is definitely a tough query mate. Personally never known oil rising out of the top end. Only a theory below in case your breathers are blocked.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emulsion

Pressure is a strange beast, pneumatic & hydraulic combined I guess ?

Cheers MB

[Hodge]

Thanks Mark. That is a good read. I did do 3 water crossings 3 weeks ago so.... who knows.

Ironically I was doing the oils easter weekend anyway so... go figure.

I'll also be fitting the proper breathers which I procrastinated for too long now.

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[threedogs]

If you get stuck with any fittings or hose,
Yell out I have plenty here, if required

[mudski]

Thanks Mark. That is a good read. I did do 3 water crossings 3 weeks ago so.... who knows.

Ironically I was doing the oils easter weekend anyway so... go figure.

I'll also be fitting the proper breathers which I procrastinated for too long now.

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Your diff is probably full of water and oil then I reckon.

[Hodge]

Will find out over the weekend.

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[Hodge]

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[Hodge]

15 minutes in and the drain plug isn't playing nice ... Breaker bar bending , any more force and i'm worried I'll strip the square hole and then i'm really up shit creek.

[nissannewby]

Trying doing it up a little bit first hodge then undo.

Or with a bit of weight on it hit the head of the breaker bar as your trying to undo.

[Hodge]

Trying doing it up a little bit first hodge then undo.

Or with a bit of weight on it hit the head of the breaker bar as your trying to undo.

Thanks Matt, I tried all of that, bit of shock force. Tapping the breaker bar and a socket wrench while applying good force on it.
As last resort ran over to Mudskis and borrowed his big bertha rattle gun and the plug still kept laughing at me... I think I've crossed the point now where it is border line butchered and a bit more force I reckon and it'll fully strip.

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[threedogs]

Maybe sacrifice a socket and weld it to the plug,
amazes me how some ppl do things up so tight

[nissannewby]

They have to be pretty bad before they will strip. The worst thing you could have done is use the rattle gun. With it as it stands give the plug a few good hits with a hammer. This should deform it a little and hopefully tighten the square up a little. I have broken breaker bars before stripping the square out so they can take quite a bit of force.

[threedogs]

X 2 a few solid thumps will shock it and square up the,,,,,,, well square.
Do you have a big allen key that will fit you can belt the begeezus out of

[Hodge]

Thanks again. Just given it a few more goes with all my might... I believe hernia is in order after that.
But she is now beyond fixable as it's pretty rounded and the breaker bar is a throw away / bent item. As i don't have a welder it's off to the workshop.
I'll just do the breathers while I'm under there and guess book her in at the mechanics.

[gaddy]

First time i did mine they would not budge, bit of heat and my 110kg on the breaker bar and all good ....

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[Hodge]

Well mission accomplished.
Huge thanks to Bloodyaussie for saving the day. Came around and attempted the cold chisel approach. She didn't budge. Then went around to his place and he welded a bolt on and eventually freed her up! Legend!

Well surprisingly the old oil was water-free and fairly clean. When I cut the old breather hose off, that was dry and no oil or water has been through there... Still don't know why the filler leaked. The old drain plug magnet has micro shavings but no chunks I could feel with finger...
Also installed the diff breathers while I was at it. As well as both new filler and drain plug thanks to Mudski.

I thought I had a H260 ? But she only dumped and swallowed 2.5-2.7L which points to a H233B ? Car was very level during the process so, don't know.
Glad it's over. Again, Big thanks to Jonothan again for the weld and help and Mudski for the plugs and the rattle gun. And thanks to the old plug for a hernia buldge and thanks to Tom Thumb for new muscles I grew during filling. Never doing that again.

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[Hodge]

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[nissannewby]

No thread tape or sealant?

You only have a 233 by the looks. Im not aware of any coil sprung 4.2s coming with the larger rear.

[Hodge]

No thread tape or sealant?

You only have a 233 by the looks. Im not aware of any coil sprung 4.2s coming with the larger rear.


Some of those oil suggestions recommended 4.7L which was the H260, so I got enough oil for that but as it turns out it is the 233. That sorts that out.
I put a bit of thread tape on, as the oil wasn't anywhere near as dirty as I thought it'd be, I'll run this through for a week maybe and then dump it and put the fresh batch in.
Now to do the rest, front diff, gear box and transfer. Any recommendations for oil Matt ? This is off the castrol guide.



Gearbox:


CASTROL MANUAL VMX-M 75W-85


Transfer Case


CASTROL ATF DEX III


Rear Diff/LSD


CASTROL AXLE LIMITED SLIP 85W-140


Front Diff


CASTROL AXLE EPX 80W-90

[nissannewby]

No specific brands but I highly recommend a gl-4 spec gear oil for the box. I use hi-tech oils 75-90 gl-4. I then just use that in both the transfer case and front diff.

[mudski]

H260 has 12 bolts holding the centre in and the H233 has 11 bolts. Easiest way to tell.

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[nissannewby]

H260 has 12 bolts holding the centre in and the H233 has 11 bolts. Easiest way to tell.

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Even easier than getting under is the compliance plate. Trans axle code is slightly different for a 260

[mudski]

Even easier than getting under is the compliance plate. Trans axle code is slightly different for a 260
Or you can do that. But since he was under there. ..

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[nissannewby]

Or you can do that. But since he was under there. ..

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He isnt anymore :p

[Hodge]

Or you can do that. But since he was under there. ..



He isnt anymore :p

Or just look at the photo I already have on the PC. lol

Which confirms the gear box and the 3.9 ratios, which out of factory is the 233. :thumbup:

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[threedogs]

Bit late now but some weld a 6mm ring around the sump plug to protect
it from getting beat to death on rocks, just saying

[Hodge]

Bit late now but some weld a 6mm ring around the sump plug to protect
it from getting beat to death on rocks, just saying

Good idea. Mudski has one of them rings I'll get one welded on at some stage.
The plug wasn't damaged as such as nothing under this car ever copped a hit. It was the salt water dipping, dunking the trailer what caused these dramas... Remember my tow bar tongue? Same thing. I'm only guessing the rest will be the same.

[threedogs]

Next oil change , whats the condition inside the chassis??
Id be spraying a shite load of lanotec or fish oil ,
again so never seize might be the go, awesome product imo

[Hodge]

Next oil change , whats the condition inside the chassis??
Id be spraying a shite load of lanotec or fish oil ,
again so never seize might be the go, awesome product imo

Done that after I got the car as well as the whole bottom got resprayed in POR15. Will make it an annual thing to spray the inside of chassis as best as I can until lanotec is pouring out.

[Hodge]

Ran the front extended diff breather earlier. Also went around the cracked the rest of the filler and drain plugs. All easy thankfully.
While under the bonnet found a little hidden surprise which I didn't know JPC fitted when car was tuned.
Then the garage creeper gave way on me and that was the end of that ...


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[Bloodyaussie]

Its cause you are a fat prick....lol

[Hodge]

Its cause you are a fat prick....lol

Bad! All of my 78kg pushed it's rating too far lol. In all honesty it was probably the strain i put on it yesterday butchering that drain plug....
Too bad you can't weld this back together for me . :tease:

[Bloodyaussie]

I use to plastic weld the fairings on motorcycles all the time mate....

[nissannewby]

I use to plastic weld the fairings on motorcycles all the time mate....

Yep haha. Can go full redneck and use a soldering iron

[MudRunnerTD]

Ran the front extended diff breather earlier. Also went around the cracked the rest of the filler and drain plugs. All easy thankfully.
While under the bonnet found a little hidden surprise which I didn't know JPC fitted when car was tuned.
Then the garage creeper gave way on me and that was the end of that ...


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i have that exact Creeper, a few years ago i lent it to a mate for a job, when he gave it back to me it looked like that!! He said Sorry..... I bought a new one.... Don't know really? i think if id done that id have taken back a new one and kept the broken one? maybe thats just me?

[Bloodyaussie]

Yep haha. Can go full redneck and use a soldering iron

Yep thats right...... oh i miss those late nights drinking shit bourbon while repairing motorcycle fairings ready for paint.... oh wait no it sucked and i hated it...lol

[Rocket55]

I got a Supercheap ( I think) creeper about 10-12 ago. Has a steel frame with padded foam inserts, works a treat, strong as and cheap as chips.

[Hodge]

This was a supercheap cheap one. I guess I'll have to go and grab a new one. .. Mind you I did put some unordinary forces on it no wonder it snapped .

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[lhurley]

Those plastic supercheap ones are the devil. I have a metal frame one from there and its pretty ordinary. Cant say ill buy another supercrap one

[Hodge]

Gonna rotate the tyres as it's time. Is this the general rotation to follow on a 4x4 ...
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[Bacho86]

Gonna rotate the tyres as it's time. Is this the general rotation to follow on a 4x4 ...
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When rotating my tyres using only 4 (spare is different brand and only good for spare) I swap rears to front and then front to rears , swapping sides (passenger to drivers) to promote even wear -- hope that makes sense!

[Hodge]

When rotating my tyres using only 4 (spare is different brand and only good for spare) I swap rears to front and then front to rears , swapping sides (passenger to drivers) to promote even wear -- hope that makes sense!

Makes sense mate. I got 5 identrical rims and tires. And every manual I check shows something different.
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[nissannewby]

I just move mine around the car in a clockwise pattern. Do this every 5000km. I netted nearly 100k out of the last set doing this.

[Hodge]

I just move mine around the car in a clockwise pattern. Do this every 5000km. I netted nearly 100k out of the last set doing this.

Not a bad idea might just do that. SO it ends up...

LR to LF
LF to RF
RF to RR
RR to Spare
SPare to LR .

My current rears are a tad more worn than fronts. I guess due to strong nissan lsd.

[Hodge]

All rotated, I'll stick to Matt's rotation every 4-5k from now. Front hubs have severe corrosion, once again shows the car has been dipped in the ocean plenty... Went out and got the rest of the oils but will run out of time today. Next weekend, which will also be time to re-flush the rear diff.

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[nissannewby]

All rotated, I'll stick to Mat's rotation every 4-5k from now. Front hubs have severe corrosion, once again shows the car has been dipped in the ocean plenty... Went out and got the rest of the oils but will run out of time today. Next weekend, which will also be time to re-flush the rear diff.

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Fixed it.

Dont forget things like power steering and brake fluid :).

[Hodge]

Fixed it.

Dont forget things like power steering and brake fluid :).

Sorry bud lol. Just used to it as one of my close mates is Matt with dual T's.

Power steering never even crossed my mind. Noted.
Clutch fluid will get done when they swap my clutch over in a few weeks time hopefully. Brake fluid I don't dare touch, to be honest... It's the stuff that brings these 2.8 tonnes to a halt lol.


Quick one for ya... Does engine oil need to be dropped when water pump is being replaced? I guess not, since it'll be siting in the sump. But thought I'd ask. I'll be doing that too this weekend, would hate to do it only for them to re-do it when they do the pump.

[nissannewby]

No only coolant dropped to do the water pump.

[Rocket55]

This was a supercheap cheap one. I guess I'll have to go and grab a new one. .. Mind you I did put some unordinary forces on it no wonder it snapped .

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This is the one I have and I haven't broken it yet and that's using 4' of pipe on 3/4 gear undoing suspension bolts etc. so it's had a pretty hard time.

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[Hodge]

This is the one I have and I haven't broken it yet and that's using 4' of pipe on 3/4 gear undoing suspension bolts etc. so it's had a pretty hard time.

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That's the one I'll be getting now! And below is the one I've had so far that broke... Steel frame one is only $10 more.

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[MudRunnerTD]

Hey Eric just catching up on your thread. Are you doing a big 100,000km service? Is your clutch done at 100,000kms!!!! Wow! My GUIV has 260,000kms on it now, I bought it at 94,000. Still has the original Clutch. Only in the last couple of months have I thought it might be coming to an end. 100k seems crazy!! Be interested to see what it looks like when it comes out??

How much are they charging you to do the clutch? What was the TT Clutch worth?

[lucus30]

All rotated, I'll stick to Matt's rotation every 4-5k from now. Front hubs have severe corrosion, once again shows the car has been dipped in the ocean plenty... Went out and got the rest of the oils but will run out of time today. Next weekend, which will also be time to re-flush the rear diff.

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Whats the yellow thing sitting under your coils?

[threedogs]

Its like a neoprhrene hat/base/ spacer they come in many sizes I have the 15mm ones
Im yet to fit mine yet, might see when the northern boys are free if they could give me a hand .

@ Eric hope non of this corrosion will cause any electric problems later on.?
Ive seen looms with salt damage 700mm plus into the loom

[lucus30]

Its like a neoprhrene hat/base/ spacer they come in many sizes I have the 15mm ones
Im yet to fit mine yet, might see when the northern boys are free if they could give me a hand .

@ Eric hope non of this corrosion will cause any electric problems later on.?
Ive seen looms with salt damage 700mm plus into the loom

ok thanks 3ds. What is the purpose of it? Its not a coil spacer is it?

[Hodge]

Its like a neoprhrene hat/base/ spacer they come in many sizes I have the 15mm ones
Im yet to fit mine yet, might see when the northern boys are free if they could give me a hand .

@ Eric hope non of this corrosion will cause any electric problems later on.?
Ive seen looms with salt damage 700mm plus into the loom

I hope not mate. That would piss me off.
And whenever you want to fit the spacers let me know, will give you a hand.

[Hodge]

Whats the yellow thing sitting under your coils?

As TD said mate it just to help raise the front a little bit ... They come in 10mm and onwards in sizes...

[threedogs]

@ DOM surely you have heard of ppl wanting to fit say 30mm coil/spring spacers.
The thin ones are far better than the OE rubber gasket they use.
When Im feeling a bit better Ill buy a slab of coopers and come up ha ha

[Hodge]

Hey Eric just catching up on your thread. Are you doing a big 100,000km service? Is your clutch done at 100,000kms!!!! Wow! My GUIV has 260,000kms on it now, I bought it at 94,000. Still has the original Clutch. Only in the last couple of months have I thought it might be coming to an end. 100k seems crazy!! Be interested to see what it looks like when it comes out??

How much are they charging you to do the clutch? What was the TT Clutch worth?

Hi Darren sorry for delayed reply.
Yes I am slowly ticking off items good for 100k service. Some things I can't/don't know how to do my self, like brake fluid, valve clearances etc... Which will be done at JPC.

As for my clutch... Well... I only "suspect" it as being stuffed.

Possible symptom 1 : Since I bought the car, a lot of the times when I take my foot of the pedal I hear a "clunk" which varies in harshness. Initially I thought this was somewhere further down the driveline, but this also happens when tranny is in neutral.

Possible symptom 2 : Going up a steep section up in the high country recently, in 1st low, all of a sudden it's as if I hit something and I wasnt going forward any more, car began rolling backward. I think, the clutch slipped then...

Possible symptom 3: Recently Mudski jumped in my car and he said my clutch is engages at the very last play of the pedal. I would have been none the wiser...

All other times gears change fine and it never slipped or anything like that apart from the clunk (symptom 1).
When I spoke to Mark at JPC he didn't know what to think of it, but found it very surprising clutch is gone before 100k... Unfortunately to inspect properly, gearbox out etc... I think it's around $800 mark for labour to swap it out.
So I impulse bought the clutch off Mark which he no longer needed and was brand new from 4Terrain. Just under $500 including the awesome timber box.

The other thing is my car towed a caravan around Aus, I don't know how big. But maybe that has something to do with early clutch retirement ?
For all I know this clutch could be perfect but something else at play causing my symptoms? Don't know.

[threedogs]

That was a good idea letting Mark have a drive.
Years ago when we were all riding bikes we used to swap
every 3 months or so to pick up any faults.
Being the owner you don't really feel things deteriorate slowly
as you adjust and just get used to it, hope that made sense, lol

[mudski]

As TD said mate it just to help raise the front a little bit ... They come in 10mm and onwards in sizes...
Im confused why they are on the bottom of the spring. All the ones ive seen are on top....

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[Hodge]

Im confused why they are on the bottom of the spring. All the ones ive seen are on top....

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I think there is both... unsure what difference it makes.

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[lucus30]

Im confused why they are on the bottom of the spring. All the ones ive seen are on top....

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Yeah that's what had me confused too Mark. I thought spacers went on the top

[BigRAWesty]

I think there is both... unsure what difference it makes.

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Possibly used to replace to factory rubber..

[threedogs]

Possibly used to replace to factory rubber..

Thats what my moneys on, less noise to I suspect

[Hodge]

Just replaced the gearbox oil. Oil was still oil but a bit murky. Nothing but micro-shavings and sludge on the magnet, which is good.
Hardest part was getting the car level enough for accurate re-fill.
Another item ticked off the list... Also hope this lessens the infamous gear chatter/rollover rumble this thing has.

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[threedogs]

Getting there, OOI after you put the yellow polyurethane washers on the bottom of the coils
what did you use on the top just the OE rubber ones??

[nissannewby]

Clutch- will most likely me a pressure plate fault. Probably lost its tension with the way it was used prior to you putchasing it. You may find the clutch plate wont look to bad.

Coil spacers/insulators- you can get these for both top and bottom. The bottom ones are only thin as the coil is retained differently to the top. You dont want anymore than maybe 10mm on the bottom of the coil. Placing one at the bottom is more for noise reduction. Factory they only come with insulators on the top of the coil.

Gearbox- that oil looks like it hasnt been changed in quite some time. It will unlikely effect the rollover noise.

[mudski]

Clutch- will most likely me a pressure plate fault. Probably lost its tension with the way it was used prior to you putchasing it. You may find the clutch plate wont look to bad.

Coil spacers/insulators- you can get these for both top and bottom. The bottom ones are only thin as the coil is retained differently to the top. You dont want anymore than maybe 10mm on the bottom of the coil. Placing one at the bottom is more for noise reduction. Factory they only come with insulators on the top of the coil.

Gearbox- that oil looks like it hasnt been changed in quite some time. It will unlikely effect the rollover noise.
Yeah i think i might have to get some thin spacers for the bottom. Im sure half my noise issues is from the springs.

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[nissannewby]

For what it's worth they shouldnt make noise.....

If the top rubbers are fubar then you will get noise but its a noise that is fairly obvious to to be the springs.

[Hodge]

Getting there, OOI after you put the yellow polyurethane washers on the bottom of the coils
what did you use on the top just the OE rubber ones??

Yeah John, the top hat only has the factory rubber thingamajig.

[Hodge]

Clutch- will most likely me a pressure plate fault. Probably lost its tension with the way it was used prior to you putchasing it. You may find the clutch plate wont look to bad.

Coil spacers/insulators- you can get these for both top and bottom. The bottom ones are only thin as the coil is retained differently to the top. You dont want anymore than maybe 10mm on the bottom of the coil. Placing one at the bottom is more for noise reduction. Factory they only come with insulators on the top of the coil.

Gearbox- that oil looks like it hasnt been changed in quite some time. It will unlikely effect the rollover noise.

Thanks Mat. The oil, like a lot of things on this car, haven't been touched since it left Japan.
Definitely a bit smoother shifts, but the rollover noise remains like you said.

Clutch, I guess gearbox has to come off anyway so new one will go in while they're at it.

The bottom spacer is more of a dampener. I got it as it gave me 10mm or so bit more lift up front. I didn't like the way the car was road sniffing due to heavier springs in the rear. Now it sits very nice.

[MudRunnerTD]

Replacement rubber spacers are off tap expensive from Nissan. Your 10mm spacer would have been heaps cheaper. I cut my own on the GQ just for noise. Cut out of 6mm reinforced rubber from Clark rubber.

[Hodge]

Replacement rubber spacers are off tap expensive from Nissan. Your 10mm spacer would have been heaps cheaper. I cut my own on the GQ just for noise. Cut out of 6mm reinforced rubber from Clark rubber.

It's from ARB and are OME branded. I think they are around $20-30 for the set... Have no idea whether that's dear or not.

[Hodge]

More goodies !!!
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Tapatalked from S6

here they are

[Bloodyaussie]

here they are

Good stuff... i need some as i get squeaking from my front springs and if mudski or yourself are near arb can you grab me a set as i am now working so bloody much i will never get a chance at this rate to get some myself.

[nissannewby]

Replacement rubber spacers are off tap expensive from Nissan. Your 10mm spacer would have been heaps cheaper. I cut my own on the GQ just for noise. Cut out of 6mm reinforced rubber from Clark rubber.

Around $6us plus postage....