Hodge's new 4.2

[Hodge]

Well folks, I finally have an additional 1.2L sitting in my drive way. Very clean outside and inside 2005 4.2 turbo intercooled ST, in white, very low Ks !
Drove it from Adelaide yesterday and pulls like a freight train! Took me a but of getting use to going from 3L to 4.2 in terms of power and clutch but I had 750km to do just that ... Couple of issues to address, but no dramas. Now to get RWC, book it in with Vicroads getting transferred and regoed and off we go.
As soon as that is done first thing shes going in for a Snorkel and 3" pipe to let her breathe a bit better.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59986&stc=1http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59987&stc=1http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59988&stc=1http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59989&stc=1

[Sir Roofy]

Well folks, I finally have an additional 1.2L sitting in my drive way. Very clean outside and inside 2005 4.2 turbo intercooled ST, in white, very low Ks !
Drove it from Adelaide yesterday and pulls like a freight train! Took me a but of getting use to going from 3L to 4.2 in terms of power and clutch but I had 750km to do just that ... Couple of issues to address, but no dramas. Now to get RWC, book it in with Vicroads getting transferred and regoed and off we go.
As soon as that is done first thing shes going in for a Snorkel and 3" pipe to let her breathe a bit better.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59986&stc=1http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59987&stc=1http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59988&stc=1http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59989&stc=1

Well done mate no more boost issues now congrats on the buy

[happygu]

Wow ... no mucking around hey ..... Great buy by the looks of it


Are you sure you just didn't buy a new badge for the back door? Ha, Ha ...

[Hodge]

Are you sure you just didn't buy a new badge for the back door? Ha, Ha ...

Shhh most people can't tell

[Cuppa]

One of these days I’ll have to take a 3.0 litre jobbie for a spin just to understand why it is that I made the right choice first time around. :) Welcome to the word of old school grunt.

[Softy]

Clean looking GU... Nice pick up.

I'm surprised you come to Adelaide to shop, People from here usually go to NSW/VIC because there cheaper over there.

[Drewboyaus]

Nice one Hodgy! Looks like a great set of wheels.....

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[jay see]

Well done mate, up there with the big boys now. Is that the one you mentioned earlier, the one on gas?

[Rocket55]

Nice work Hodge, great looking rig!

I recently went from the 3L up to the 4.2 and they are very different beasts, similar power on paper but the way the 4.2 delivers it makes it feel much stronger on the open road, yet around town I found the 3L auto to be quicker.

[Hodge]

One of these days I’ll have to take a 3.0 litre jobbie for a spin just to understand why it is that I made the right choice first time around. :) Welcome to the word of old school grunt.

I got sick of jumping on forum and seeing new blown up 3L threads. Mine drove like a dream albeit being moody sometimes. But i just didn't want to trust a 3L, and stressing every time I went away etc... So I made a call.




I'm surprised you come to Adelaide to shop, People from here usually go to NSW/VIC because there cheaper over there.

This fine specimen came up in Adelaide, my mate put me onto it. For the price, condition and super low Ks for a 2005 4.2, I couldn't resist.


Well done mate, up there with the big boys now. Is that the one you mentioned earlier, the one on gas?

Nah mate that was not this cat. This was is diesel only.


Nice work Hodge, great looking rig!

I recently went from the 3L up to the 4.2 and they are very different beasts, similar power on paper but the way the 4.2 delivers it makes it feel much stronger on the open road, yet around town I found the 3L auto to be quicker.

Yes that is exactly what I found! Around town the CRD got me places quicker, and was very zippy. But on the freeway (and I had 750km of it to experience it), even at 110km/h + the 4.2 ate the 3L for breakfast it just wanted more. Even hills were nothing for it in 5th.

[threedogs]

Well folks, I finally have an additional 1.2L sitting in my drive way. Very clean outside and inside 2005 4.2 turbo intercooled ST, in white, very low Ks !
Drove it from Adelaide yesterday and pulls like a freight train! Took me a but of getting use to going from 3L to 4.2 in terms of power and clutch but I had 750km to do just that ... Couple of issues to address, but no dramas. Now to get RWC, book it in with Vicroads getting transferred and regoed and off we go.
As soon as that is done first thing shes going in for a Snorkel and 3" pipe to let her breathe a bit better.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59986&stc=1http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59987&stc=1http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59988&stc=1http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59989&stc=1

Oh yeah no more to say, well done

[Softy]

This fine specimen came up in Adelaide, my mate put me onto it. For the price, condition and super low Ks for a 2005 4.2, I couldn't resist.


There are some beauty's here if you look hard enough... I got a 2003 GU Auto ZD30 with only 140,000km on it a couple of months ago.. Totally stock and unmolested and in mint condition!

[Clunk]

very nice Hodge, and in the right colour too lol

[Hodge]

very nice Hodge, and in the right colour too lol

Yeh mirror image of my 3L when I bought that. lol The car came free with that badge I bought ... :P

[Rocket55]

Yes that is exactly what I found! Around town the CRD got me places quicker, and was very zippy. But on the freeway (and I had 750km of it to experience it), even at 110km/h + the 4.2 ate the 3L for breakfast it just wanted more. Even hills were nothing for it in 5th.

I picked mine up in Melbourne and drove it home to Sydney. Got on the freeway, set cruise for 110 in 5th and never touched it until I got to Sydney (or a nature stop). Before this I drove my CRD auto down for a High Country weekend and while it got me there and back with no problems what so ever, it was hunting through gears on the hills and dropping back to 90-95 a number of times. I have not regretted getting the 4.2 at all and I'm sure you'll also be suitably impressed with yours. How many kms on it?

[Hodge]

90,000 mate. Very low compared to most 2005 4.2s out there.
And yeah you are right my 3L got me everywhere no dramas, but this on the freeway wins hands down. It ate dukes highway and western freeway for breakfast.

Just gotta jump through the SA to VIC rego hoops. A lot of conflicting info out there. Anybody went from SA to VIC in regards to rego before ?

[MEGOMONSTER]

Your a lucky man Hodge. Lol

Good luck with this beast

[mudski]

Very, very nice Eric. You must bring it around and show me.

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[lucus30]

Mate that is smick. You have me green with envy right now

[Rocket55]

90,000km, very nice pick up mate!!

[Bacho86]

Nice pick up mate! Very clean platform to build up on


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[threedogs]

One of these days I’ll have to take a 3.0 litre jobbie for a spin just to understand why it is that I made the right choice first time around. :) Welcome to the word of old school grunt.

Nothing wrong with my 3 ltr other than oil, Ive only just changed the glow plugs.
{dig] but you do need to drive them to fully appreciate them, and 12ltr/100K helps.
AND ITS A DAILY DRIVER

[Bloodyaussie]

You have serious issues eric....

Good stuff... hope this all works out.

[Hodge]

Just noticed my sump has a patch over it , or what looks like a patch.... Thoughts ??

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/07/314.jpg

[happygu]

Just noticed my sump has a patch over it , or what looks like a patch.... Thoughts ??

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/07/314.jpg


It is where they grafted your old 3 litre into the 6 cylinder ......





Nothing to worry about - just some sort of Sound Absorber / Deadening to help quieten down engine noise

[Sir Roofy]

Just noticed my sump has a patch over it , or what looks like a patch.... Thoughts ??

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/07/314.jpg

Not a patch mate its a sump blanket to keep her warm over night

[threedogs]

Might just be an extra skin to absorb a knock or two {protection}

Sump patches we dont need no stinking sump patches lol

[nissannewby]

Just noticed my sump has a patch over it , or what looks like a patch.... Thoughts ??

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/07/314.jpg

Its factory fitted mate. Not a patch. All the td42ti had this.

[Woof]

Congratulations on your new 4.2 mate you will enjoy it, I still can't get used to driving mine as it seems a bit to flash for me

[AB]

Well done Hodgey, looks very neat mate...woo hoo!!!!

[Bigcol]

nice looking beastie there Hodge

you will enjoy it for sure

[Hodge]

Thanks gents!



Its factory fitted mate. Not a patch. All the td42ti had this.

Thanks for confirmation mate. It looked factory, but just wasn't sure what it was about. Compared family friends 2003 ute Td42 and his didn't have it ...

[nissannewby]

Thanks gents!




Thanks for confirmation mate. It looked factory, but just wasn't sure what it was about. Compared family friends 2003 ute Td42 and his didn't have it ...

Was it the factory intercooled td42ti or an early 03 that is just a t? My 04 ute has it on the sump and every other later td42ti patrol I have been under also had it.

[Hodge]

Was it the factory intercooled td42ti or an early 03 that is just a t? My 04 ute has it on the sump and every other later td42ti patrol I have been under also had it.

His wasn't factory intercooled. He fitted a CC cooler later on. Definitely hasn't got that patch thing, whatever it does...

[Hodge]

One of the first jobs I'll have to attack on the car is the underbody. Because the bloke lived near the salt crystalization in Adelaide, underneath has that surface corrosion/rust look. Will have to get it cleaned up and sprayed. It's probably fine, but just wouldn't want it developing any further.

[Rock Trol]

Congratulations. Looks like a great unit. Happy/sad to hear it runs so well on the open road!

[cgm]

Well done Hodge. Happy for you mate. Low km's, sounds like a good win. Relax and enjoy now.

Gonna have a bit of work and catching up to do for all your mods again, but that's half the fun I reckon. (aside from the $$$)

[MudRunnerTD]

What a heap of Sh1t.......... Was the ZD30.

Great buy mate. Mine had 90000 on it when I got it, it now has 250,000. It's a keeper.

[mudski]

Saw this in person today. Straight body inside and out. I am very envious at the moment.
But Eric couldn't wipe the smile of his face the whole time. Now he's got a blank canvas to work on which will be fun to see.

Btw Eric, dont forget to clean the maf...

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[jay see]

Now he's got a blank canvas to work on which will be fun to see.


I know that mine is nothing compared to this, not even close... But having a blank canvas to start with is one of the reasons why I brought mine.

You will need to start another list now.
Looks great, even if its white....

[Stropp]

Well folks, I finally have an additional 1.2L sitting in my drive way. Very clean outside and inside 2005 4.2 turbo intercooled ST, in white, very low Ks !
Drove it from Adelaide yesterday and pulls like a freight train! Took me a but of getting use to going from 3L to 4.2 in terms of power and clutch but I had 750km to do just that ... Couple of issues to address, but no dramas. Now to get RWC, book it in with Vicroads getting transferred and regoed and off we go.
As soon as that is done first thing shes going in for a Snorkel and 3" pipe to let her breathe a bit better.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59986&stc=1http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59987&stc=1http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59988&stc=1http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59989&stc=1


Nice pickup mate, low k clean car to start with,
Mine looked like that once ��

[Hodge]

Nice pickup mate, low k clean car to start with,
Mine looked like that once 😜

Thanks mate. My 3L was a spitting image of this when I bought that too and didn't look like that for long though. lol Just a few minor issues to sort out, and shes sweet. Underneath is getting cleaned up and sprayed soon for that new look. And I think my left hand side (passenger) engine mount is on it's way out. So I'm told, it is common ?????

Also snorkle and exhaust are ordered and waiting for parts. Gonna let her breathe properly first.

[nissannewby]

With 90k I would think the engine mount should be ok. But yes the passenger side mount is common to wear and fail quicker just by the nature of the engine.

[Hodge]

Cheers newby. I do get a little bit of vibration. But i'm so new to driving the 4.2 so, I don't know how much vibration is normal. Also looking at it and sticking a screw driver between the mount sandwich it is a tiny bit worn so, might get them changed next service which is soon.

[Rocket55]

Around the 1,200 rpm mark I get a huge rattle or resonance coming from behind the dash towards the left hand side along with the door on the centre hidey hole between the air vents rattles it's arse off. Funnily it seems to do it more we coming down in the revs or holding a constant verses going up. Going around a round about in 2nd is a classic example of this. I'd do find if I just ease the clutch a tiny bit the vibration or rattle stops.

Think I'm going to pull the dash out and sikaflex everything together.

[Hodge]

Cheers Rocket. I have rattle "somewhere" under the hood near the passenger footwell... I think. Only begins appearing when engine is warm and when taking off in 1st gear and just as I start applying the juice pedal. Same thing in 2nd gear when gearing up... I think it could be the exhaust or somewhere within the dump pipe area. So the exhaust that'll be fitted soon, will eliminate that as a possible cause I guess.

Pulling the dash out is serious business I believe. Mine has the bubbles, and is way over Nissans 6 year recall date. It doesn't bother me as I can see them under the dash mat. Maybe a job for the future...

[Rocket55]

pulling the centre console part of the dash off is easy, then radio out, gets you at the centre. Glove box out gets you into the left had side. Then start glueing /cable tying shit together. Probably won't take much as you don't need to secure everything you just need to change the frequency at which it vibrates. I find with the centre pocket door, when it vibrate I only need to apply the smallest touch with my finger and it stops. Might stick a blob of bluetac on it and see if that works. If so a dob of silica nor a strip of double sided tape etc, anything just to change the frequency. Bit of trial and error.

[mudski]

Next time iseeyou Eric i need to give you an egr plate. Need to block that shizz.

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[Rocket55]

I also removed the butterfly from the housing in the red circle, don't know what you call it.

http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j396/Rocket5555/Build%20Pics%20Patrol/IMG_1384-1_zpsxueebu0y.jpg

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Between this and the EGR block, made it rev much freer and boost earlier.

[Hodge]

Thanks gents. Will do that this weekend then.

[mudski]

Thanks gents. Will do that this weekend then.
Give me a call dude. I should be around most of the weekend and ill give you a plate. Do you need a spare maf? 😆

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[Hodge]

Will do if i get a chance mate. Car is off from shop to shop tomorrow, getting various things done, might not see it for a week. As soon as i get it back might see you about that blank.

[mudski]

And what are these various thing getting done? Bar, snorkel, exhaust, lift, tyres, lockers, UHF... Shall I go on? :D

[Hodge]

She's getting cleaned up and respryed under, windows tinted, snorkel and exhaust fitted... Rwc and then put through the vic roads pits for rego...

[lucus30]

Was going to respray my chassis one day but never got around to it. Probably I'm better off fixing some of the surface rust on some scratches on the body first I guess

[Hodge]

Mine is just surface corrosion everywhere so not bad but just want to get it cleaned and repainted for a neater look and to stop it getting worse.

[mudski]

I take it the new Pootrol has the standard suspension? If so I wanna look at something before you change it...

[Hodge]

It does mate. Stock and will stay that way for a few weeks.

[mudski]

It does mate. Stock and will stay that way for a few weeks.
Thanks. I want to take some measurements of the rear brake bias before you get anything done if you don't mind mate.

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[Hodge]

Sounds good buddy. I'll have the car this arvo and most of tomorrow so i can swing by and you can measure away ...

[Hodge]

First mod complete. Windows tinted. lol
This'll take me further off-road than anything else.

[Stropp]

First mod complete. Windows tinted. lol
This'll take me further off-road than anything else.

That's because no one will be able to see who's driving and give you shit if you get stuck 😁

[Hodge]

Here are some pics of underbody before cleanup and respray. The exhaust section being the worst.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=60224&stc=1http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=60225&stc=1http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=60226&stc=1

[Hodge]

Car cleaned up underneath and re-sprayed. Looks brand new. Happy. Also windows got windows tinted.


PS. Got a very annoying rattle, when taking off from first and then going into 2nd gear and sometimes in higher gears when RPM gets really low. Looked under tried to see whats loose and cannot pin point it... Not a biggie, just an annoyance.


http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=60290&stc=1http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=60291&stc=1

[mudski]

Looks good there Eric.

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[jay see]

I'm not a huge fan of white cars, but sh!t they look good with black windows.:cool:

[Rocket55]

That's come up a treat mate! Be a shame to drive it around in the rain now..

[Woof]

[QUOTE=Hodge;621442]Car cleaned up underneath and re-sprayed. Looks brand new. Happy. Also windows got windows tinted.


PS. Got a very annoying rattle, when taking off from first and then going into 2nd gear and sometimes in higher gears when RPM gets really low. Looked under tried to see whats loose and cannot pin point it... Not a biggie, just an annoyance.


I have the exact rattle mate, thinking it just the exhaust system, will be getting it replaced on Thursday so I will let you know the results

[Hodge]

I'm not a huge fan of white cars, but sh!t they look good with black windows.:cool:

Yeh i like the look. Black on white features.


That's come up a treat mate! Be a shame to drive it around in the rain now..

Yeh it's pretty dry already the chassis paint they used. No rain till tomorrow so hope it holds up.


[QUOTE=Hodge;621442]

I have the exact rattle mate, thinking it just the exhaust system, will be getting it replaced on Thursday so I will let you know the results

That is what I'm thinking too... Mine is getting replaced this or next week so will find out then. Mine mostly begins to rattle, as described above, when engine is up to full temperature.

[Hodge]

Hmmm didn't know 4.2 was famous for a common rattle... I'll try and pin point the rpm tomorrow when rattle is worst/loudest.

[Hodge]

Don't fight it, live with it and love it. We all do. :) It's the muscle growling at you.

PS could be wrong, but yet to hear a confirmed reason for it.
It's really really annoying , more so outside the car lol. So I hope the exhaust fixes it as its coming from that general area.

[NEKMNIT]

booth of my td42t's have had the "rattle" I could not pin point it anywhere either haha

[Woof]

It's really really annoying , more so outside the car lol. So I hope the exhaust fixes it as its coming from that general area.

Same here, when it does it people turn around to see what the noise is

[Clunk]

Mine rattles but I know it's definitely the exaust bracket at the rear, have tried tightening it to no avail

[threedogs]

Would a bottle of T2 settle it down

[Hodge]

T2 ?

[Clunk]

T2 ?
2 stroke.....

[threedogs]

Castrol T2 quiets down the ZD30's pretty good, sure Cuppa uses it on his Patrol.
It just lubricates the fuel system

[Hodge]

Oh yes. Thats what i was hesitant to do on the CRD... Now on the 4.2 however.... mmm

I don't think a bit of T2 will fix this rattle. LOL

[mudski]

You worry too much Eric.

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[Hodge]

You worry too much Eric.

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Not a worry mate, this is farkin' annoying. I'm sure you heard it when I took off from your place the other day ... lol
I leave home to work way before 6AM, and that rattle together with a cold clunker diesel echoing in my small court isn't doing neighbouring relations any favors.... and then there will be the 3" pipe soon too....

[mudski]

Too be honest mate all i heard was a td42ti taking off.

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[Woof]

Got my 3" system on yesterday mate, that bloody rattle is still there.
Prior to putting your 3" system on please give the dump pipe studs a really good soaking, snapped one on mine and a 3 to 4 hour job took 14 hours

[Clunk]

Got my 3" system on yesterday mate, that bloody rattle is still there.
Prior to putting your 3" system on please give the dump pipe studs a really good soaking, snapped one on mine and a 3 to 4 hour job took 14 hours
Was thinking about the rattle. ....... do you guys have a bash plate fitted to the transmission crossmember?

[Woof]

Was thinking about the rattle. ....... do you guys have a bash plate fitted to the transmission crossmember?

Will check as soon as it stops raining, thanks mate

[Rocket55]

Not a worry mate, this is farkin' annoying. I'm sure you heard it when I took off from your place the other day ... lol
I leave home to work way before 6AM, and that rattle together with a cold clunker diesel echoing in my small court isn't doing neighbouring relations any favors.... and then there will be the 3" pipe soon too....

Haha, that's what they do. I'm in a small cul de sac that is a bit up hill. Leaving early in the morning is fine as its down hill, but coming home it's labour it in second, or whip it back to first for up the street and the driveway. Between the 4.2 rattle, 3" exhaust and gearbox rollover noise there's no sneaking up on people, they know when I come home :biggrin::biggrin:

[Hodge]

Thanks gents I will see if i have such bash plate. And soak the crap out of all nuts 'n bolts on the pipe prior to removal.

[threedogs]

@ Hodge how do you find the difference between the two CRD and 4.2TD speed wise?
Is it possible to adjust something to stop the rattle,, tappets etc.?

[Hodge]

@ Hodge how do you find the difference between the two CRD and 4.2TD speed wise?
Is it possible to adjust something to stop the rattle,, tappets etc.?

As for the rattle, I will wait until the exhaust comes off and new one goes on to see if it is that. Fingers crossed. If not, like the other fellas here, I will have to keep looking. Car is now in the hands of the mechanics and then ARB so won't have it for a week or so.

Speedwise... As I mentioned earlier in the thread. The CRD was much more zippier around town, lights to lights, etc ... On the highway the 4.2 eats it for breakfast and desert, hands down... Once the 4.2 gets going it's pulls like a truck. But around town, it is just that, a truck.
Like jumping in and going for a short drive to a pizza shop. It feels like I'm firing up a outback road train and lugging 5 trailers behind me LOL. In my experience they are 2 different beasts.

However... In saying that, I am comparing my stock as rock 4.2, to the fully rigged up CRD on 33"s, lift kit, fully loaded with bull bars, roof racks, everything... I will find out what the 4.2 behaves like fully loaded in a few weeks.

[Hodge]

Got my 3" system on yesterday mate, that bloody rattle is still there.
Prior to putting your 3" system on please give the dump pipe studs a really good soaking, snapped one on mine and a 3 to 4 hour job took 14 hours


How is the car with the exhaust on ???

[Hodge]

I have my rattle suspicions on this ... Rusty section of the exhaust - heat shield.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=60398&stc=1

[mudski]

Is the heat shield lose?

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[Woof]

How is the car with the exhaust on ???

Great mate, could not be happier with it....seems to have a slight power increase

[Hodge]

The RWC is done. Apparently I need the front wheel bearings adjusted ?? Had no idea it was a part of their RWC tick list? But anyways. Mechanics will fix that.

[Bloodyaussie]

The RWC is done. Apparently I need the front wheel bearings adjusted ?? Had no idea it was a part of their RWC tick list? But anyways. Mechanics will fix that.

Of course it is... if you have ever had a wheel bearing collapse at speed then you would know why... bloody scary.

So the car will be rego'd soon then.

[Hodge]

Of course it is... if you have ever had a wheel bearing collapse at speed then you would know why... bloody scary.

So the car will be rego'd soon then.

Never experienced that, and don't want to. Sounds like you've been there ??

And yeah car will be regoed soon to VIC plates. Vic roads will rip me a new one financially...

[jay see]

The RWC is done. Apparently I need the front wheel bearings adjusted ?? Had no idea it was a part of their RWC tick list? But anyways. Mechanics will fix that.

Is that all it needed?

[Hodge]

Is that all it needed?
Yeh thats the only major thing. Wiper blades was the other and rear reverse right hand side globe which it dont have so easy fixes lol.

[Stropp]

Yeh rear reverse right hand side globe which it dont have so easy fixes lol.

wtf dont they realise that they dont have them ??? muppets and they check your car out .

[Hodge]

wtf dont they realise that they dont have them ??? muppets and they check your car out .
I think the mechanic was pulling my leg, testing me whether i was aware of the missing rear reverse lol.

[threedogs]

One of my sons just had a car re rego'ed and it has a letter in the number side of the plate,
and yes just std rego eg XXX-60Z something like that

[mudski]

Hope your not taking your car to JPC! He needs to get of his rrrss and finishing my car. Well start it too...Lol

[Hodge]

Hope your not taking your car to JPC! He needs to get of his rrrss and finishing my car. Well start it too...Lol
That's where it was he booked me in straight away as he had no other work....

[Hodge]

Kidding Mark... :P Car didn't go to JPC.

[Clunk]

Kidding Mark... [emoji14] Car didn't go to JPC.
You gave in way to soon

[mudski]

Kidding Mark... :P Car didn't go to JPC.

Yer I figured that Eric. Saying JPC has no work kinda gave it away... You and BA been talking have ya's?
I know where you took it. Turbo Engineering....

[Hodge]

I know where you took it. Turbo Engineering....

Lol . now that hurts ....
I don't need a $3000 rwc check sorry.

[Hodge]

I also removed the butterfly from the housing in the red circle, don't know what you call it.
Between this and the EGR block, made it rev much freer and boost earlier.

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Ok so after this exhaust is done, in a few days this with the EGR will be my first piece of work. Now, I have had few people tell me to remove this thing, including Rocket here whos has positive results from it... Some others have told me do not touch it as it'll mess with the boost big time...
Now what exactly does this thing do... ??? Manual just says "Throttle body." Even though I will remove it anyway. Just curious what exactly does it do ??

@ Rocket - how exactly did you remove it / what was the process ?

Cheers.

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[Bloodyaussie]

Ok so after this exhaust is done, in a few days this with the EGR will be my first piece of work. Now, I have had few people tell me to remove this thing, including Rocket here whos has positive results from it... Some others have told me do not touch it as it'll mess with the boost big time...
Now what exactly does this thing do... ??? Manual just says "Throttle body." Even though I will remove it anyway. Just curious what exactly does it do ??

@ Rocket - how exactly did you remove it / what was the process ?

Cheers.

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[mudski]

I reckon Eric there will be just two screws holding the butterfly plate on the shaft. Inside the unit. Undo the screws and remove said plate.

[Hodge]

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x260/jpgpz/clarksonhammer_7186_zpssfzpn3cd.jpg (http://s184.photobucket.com/user/jpgpz/media/clarksonhammer_7186_zpssfzpn3cd.jpg.html)

LOL funny fuker, is that how you fixed your aircon :P ??

[Hodge]

I reckon Eric there will be just two screws holding the butterfly plate on the shaft. Inside the unit. Undo the screws and remove said plate.

I'll open it up and have a look when i get the car back. Have to come and buy the plate off you too.

[Rocket55]

It's easy as Eric. Mark is on the money. Remove the pipe work, undo the 4 bolts that hold it on the Intercooler. You'll then see 2 little brass screws that hold the butterfly to the spindle, simply unscrew them. They're a bit tight so be careful not to butcher the screw heads. Reassemble. It would be virtually next to impossible to do it on the car. You'll end up with these bits left over.

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I got it off the forum (or the other one, can't remember) on the benefits of removing it. It certainly fixed my flatspot at about 2,100rpm. Can't comment on what it did to my boost as my boost is wound up a bit (12psi) through a boost controller gadget.

[nissannewby]

I removed my entire egr system. Egr pipe, egr cooler, vac lines, solenoids and butterfly.

The "throttle body" is there so at a determined point programmed into the ecu it will close and allow more exhaust gas to enter the intake manifold. Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR). Now the td42 system is very basic and can be removed without anything happening, no engine light, limp mode etc etc. It will not effect boost.

I would recommed, if you havent already, block the egr and remove the butterfly at the very least. Removing the egr cooler will remove some load from your cooling system if you go this far.

[Hodge]

Thanks for clarifying that up fellas ! It's a no brainer, block the egr remove the butterfly... This weekend !

[Rocket55]

I removed my entire egr system. Egr pipe, egr cooler, vac lines, solenoids and butterfly.

The "throttle body" is there so at a determined point programmed into the ecu it will close and allow more exhaust gas to enter the intake manifold. Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR). Now the td42 system is very basic and can be removed without anything happening, no engine light, limp mode etc etc. It will not effect boost.

I would recommed, if you havent already, block the egr and remove the butterfly at the very least. Removing the egr cooler will remove some load from your cooling system if you go this far.

If you were to block the EGR on the turbo side would you achieve the came cooling advantages whilst maintaining the "look" of having the system in place should the plod look under the bonnet?

[nissannewby]

If you were to block the EGR on the turbo side would you achieve the came cooling advantages whilst maintaining the "look" of having the system in place should the plod look under the bonnet?

You may but is essentially another area of heat soak for the coolant. You probably wont see any readable difference on a gauge but anything can help with a patrol cooling system.

You could just as easliy block the coolant ports.

[Hodge]

Got the car back today. Few things done. New bullbar, compressor, 2" OME lift kit, roof rack, awning and most importantly the exhaust ! 3" ...
Definitely changed the power behavior of the car. Lots more up and go when she gets going and gave it a very nice tone with that sweet whistle.
While dropping off Mudski at JPC today I spoke to the bloke and he said, within minutes easily will be tuned for lots more down low power now that she has the exhaust on. And in his own words, get the EGR blanked ASAP, which is what I also got today thanks to Mudski ! Will be fitted tomorrow amongst a few other goodies...

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=60918&stc=1

[Rocket55]

What muffler if any are you running with it?

[Hodge]

What muffler if any are you running with it?
Hiflow muffler thats part of the Beaudesert 3" system.

[Hodge]

Against my wishes and hopes the new exhaust didn't get rid of the rattle/noise thought to be my old exhaust... Mudski heard it yesterday too while he was in my car.
I just drove alongside a bloke in a 4.2 ute and at a set of lights he said my thrust bearing might be shot as he can hear it rattling big time every time I change gears ? Mind you he looked to be off his tree, and I hope hes not on the forum to read this lol.
Is there any other symptoms of this going, other than the noise ? Gears change smoothly and fine no dramas...

[mudski]

Imo. That didn't sound like a thrust bearing to me. Mine was cactus in the zd and it whined.
Yours just sound like driveline chatter.

[Bacho86]

Possibly engine mounts... Or has this already been mentioned?


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[threedogs]

@ Hodge how'd you go at TJM???

[Hodge]

Possibly engine mounts... Or has this already been mentioned?


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It is on the suspect list mate. Car is going to JPC next week for a tune and I'll get them to check.

[Hodge]

@ Hodge how'd you go at TJM???


Hey mate, I popped in briefly with a workmate on Thursday, but the guy there didn't know which one was which... I think it was the store owner I was talking to, it wasn't John, he was out somewhere. Now that the bullbar is on I need a set.

[Hodge]

Fitted up a new stereo today, got rid of the ancient "Cassette" player. Bit of wiring and soldering and happy with the job.

Was gonna run the wires for the dual battery system from front to back but the farkin' rain put a stop to that so I called it quits not long ago. Was also gonna do the UHF unit.

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[Rocket55]

Nice work! Getting rid of the cassette player is on my list also.

[Hodge]

Nice work! Getting rid of the cassette player is on my list also.

Yeah I can't live without music so, this was first thing to be done once I got the car back lol.

[threedogs]

@ Hodge plenty here when your ready, I told James{owner] you would pop in ,
He doesnt know much about 4x4, I might drop a few sets over this week,

[nissannewby]

Can you hear the noise when stationary? Does it disappear when you put the clutch in?

[Hodge]

Can you hear the noise when stationary? Does it disappear when you put the clutch in?


Nope, definitely not when stationary. Or when putting clutch in. Just tried this before across all revs etc.
The only time it sounds, is 1st gear, just after releasing clutch and applying a bit of throttle, same thing when going from 1st to 2nd, and 2nd to 3rd but this is rare ... It also happens when I'm slowing down and don't down gear and engine has really low revs and is begging to be down geared...

[nissannewby]

So more of a growl type noise from the gearbox area?

[Hodge]

So more of a growl type noise from the gearbox area?


Difficult to pin point exactly where from by that general area.
Stopped by Jonothans house today, he came for quick drive and he reckons it's the clutch and it's normal. His GQ had a very similar noise. How he described his, by labouring the engine at low revs and being lazy on the clutch, is exactly what provokes my rattle. . Mudski said the same thing about his neighbours GQ.

[nissannewby]

Yeah they have a common noise. Sounds like gear rollover noise.

[Hodge]

Yeah they have a common noise. Sounds like gear rollover noise.

You might be on the money there mate ! When you said gear rollover noise I googled it and come up with this Youtube video.
It's not a Patrol but it is very similar to what I'm getting...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvh6sSpq84M

[nissannewby]

There are threads about it with patrols.

http://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/engine-drivetrain-55/reducing-gear-rollover-noise-54569/

[Hodge]

Yeah I was reading some of those now, super common on Patrols and land cruisers too.
Thanks heaps for that, I'm pretty certain it's pin pointed now. Our work diesel mechanic told me it was gear chatter when I mentioned it to him. I suppose it's the same thing just different wording.

[Hodge]

Blocked out the junk recirculator. 5 minute job. Boost kicks in a tad earlier. Happy days.
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[Hodge]

Ok next inline is the gauges. EGT is straight forward, from what I have seen, my exhaust has the bung there already. The Boost I can pickup from the small hose at the back of the factory intercooler, right ? Just put a T-ee in it, and bingo ?

As for the gauge/s and water gauge I was going to go with this redarc unit below. This way I get egt / boost & maybe water temperature in one unit. And most importantly (to me) water temps are as a numerical display. Which is what I want!

The temp display on this gauge is optional and i have to order the specific sender. One of these below.... WIll any of these work on the 4.2 ?

Also MUDSKI. I noticed the other day at JPC you had 2 separate redarc gauges ? Any reason you didn't go for one of these ???


The G52-BET gauge also supports one of four optional temperature sensors. You will need to purchase one of the following REDARC temperature sensors to equip the gauge with this function:
· GS-UT-80: An NTC temperature sensor in a plastic housing for measuring cabin, fridge or outside temperature. Range is -20°C ~ + 80 °C. This sensor is supplied with a 6 metre extension cable.
· GS-UT-120: An NTC temperature sensor in a metal copper housing with 6mm diameter mounting hole. Range is -20~+120 °C. This sensor is supplied with a 6 metre extension cable.
· GS-OWT1-4: Water or Oil temperature sender. 1/4 NPT threaded. Designed to measure from -20~ +170°C. Supplied with 3 metre extension cable.
· GS-OWT1-8: Water or Oil temperature sender. 1/8 NPT threaded. Designed to measure from -20~ +170°C. Supplied with 3 metre extension cable.

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[mudski]

I have three separate gauges mate. The boost/ egt sits between the speedo and tacho. The two on the pillar pod you see was the dual oil pressureand water temp and the other is the dual battery monitor.

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[nissannewby]

What do these gauges cost?

[Rocket55]

That's where I picked my boost up from.

[Hodge]

What do these gauges cost?
The dearest one is the one I linked. Boost efgt and temp. Can be bad for $350-400. The others variants are below 300 I think...

[nissannewby]

Ah yes I should have looked at the links lol. Pretty bloody pricey.

[mudski]

My boost /egt gauge is McNally, the other two are Redarc. I prefer the McNally out of the two, theres too much to look at on the Redarcs, but McNally don't do the combo's I wanted...

[Hodge]

Ah yes I should have looked at the links lol. Pretty bloody pricey.
Very pricey. I am looking at alternative. I'm a fan of numerical readings , but not much out there...

[Hodge]

My boost /egt gauge is McNally, the other two are Redarc. I prefer the McNally out of the two, theres too much to look at on the Redarcs, but McNally don't do the combo's I wanted...
Might have a look at them. Cheers .

[mudski]

Might have a look at them. Cheers .

They're just a simpler gauge. Dont get me wrong the Redarcs are good. But having both in the car, the McNally is easier to read at a quick glance while your driving.

[Hodge]

They're just a simpler gauge. Dont get me wrong the Redarcs are good. But having both in the car, the McNally is easier to read at a quick glance while your driving.
They look good.

[nissannewby]

Very pricey. I am looking at alternative. I'm a fan of numerical readings , but not much out there...

Have a look at gloshift as well. They do a tri gauge with boost, water and oil. The boost is analogue while the water and oil are digital readout.

[Hodge]

Have a look at gloshift as well. They do a tri gauge with boost, water and oil. The boost is analogue while the water and oil are digital readout.
Will do my keeping my options opened. Just reading some reviews and a lot of redarc ones people are having issues with accuracy. Don't know wherether its the sender side of things or the gauge ...

[Hodge]

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/09/83.jpg

Does this canister have a certain polarity ?? Can I swap these hoses around ? Would make a perfect fit. Lol

[Hodge]

Reason I asked is if I could move that canister to the other side (compressor) side, I could use that space between the canister bracket and the battery tray/coolant overflow for mounting the BCDC , fuses etc... But to spin the canister around and mount it nicely I'd have to swap the hoses...

[Hodge]

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=61131&stc=1

[mudski]

You can move the canister to where ever you want. As long as the hose are on the same way. Notice that top hose with the arrow too.

[Hodge]

You can move the canister to where ever you want. As long as the hose are on the same way. Notice that top hose with the arrow too.

Damn! Didn't notice that arrow. I guess it has to be a certain way. I'll think of a way. Cheers mate.

[mudski]

I had the canister on the zd in a different spot. I just manipulated the steel pipes carefully.

[Hodge]

I had the canister on the zd in a different spot. I just manipulated the steel pipes carefully.

So stupid question, diesel doesn't flow through those, it's just the fumes? So if I disconnect a hose fuel won't be gushing out ?
I can't remember having one of these on the CRD so don't know much about it.

[Rocket55]

It's a vacuum canister isn't it, to give more volume of vacuum (haha how's that for an oxymoron) for the brake and clutch booster???

[Rocket55]

PS: I'm a fan of the VDO gauges, super easy to ready, accurate, relatively cheap by comparison and easy on the eyes of a night time.

http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j396/Rocket5555/Build%20Pics%20Patrol/C163A771-7E23-4BD5-BC77-D744D8A5AD42_zps9hdewjyy.jpg (http://s1083.photobucket.com/user/Rocket5555/media/Build%20Pics%20Patrol/C163A771-7E23-4BD5-BC77-D744D8A5AD42_zps9hdewjyy.jpg.html)

[threedogs]

VDO do a great gauge Im just about to buy a LHS pillar pod, give the passenger something to do.
same as moving the UHF mike to the LHS, passenger can talk while I do the driving.
Pretty sure you can talk on a UHF around the burbs, unless they have changed the law.
Looking good, great fun kitting out a 4x4 especially if funds allow

[Hodge]

volume of vacuum (haha how's that for an oxymoron)

I like it lol.

I thought it was a charcoal canister for some reason, as it had that oily/diesel feel and smell to it ??? Anyways if it is just a vacuum thing makes it easier to re-arrange them. Might get longer hoses and re-located further away then thought.

Cheers for that.

[Hodge]

PS: I'm a fan of the VDO gauges, super easy to ready, accurate, relatively cheap by comparison and easy on the eyes of a night time.



Will definitely have a look at these. I wonder if they make a digital/numerical version...

Edit: Yes they do.

[threedogs]

Don't the digital ones flicker too much,
well that was what I was led to believe

[Rumcajs]

Congrats mate,

I'm still trying to figure out how I missed such a find (TD42T with low kays and Series 4 body) Its a shame such a truck was hijacked to Vic :clapping:

Anyway enjoy the rig.

Cheers

[Hodge]

Congrats mate,

I'm still trying to figure out how I missed such a find (TD42T with low kays and Series 4 body) Its a shame such a truck was hijacked to Vic :clapping:

Anyway enjoy the rig.

Cheers

Thanks mate. Yeah it was something I was "hoping" to find in the future... But some circumstances changed and this one popped up I had to jump at it. Very happy so far. And yeah was more than happy to claim it and bring to Vic :D

[Hodge]

It's a vacuum canister isn't it, to give more volume of vacuum (haha how's that for an oxymoron) for the brake and clutch booster???

Confirmed vaccum canister. Took one hose off and sounded like a Dyson for a few seconds... and then silence. lol Hope I got some brakes now.

[jff45]

PS: I'm a fan of the VDO gauges, super easy to ready, accurate, relatively cheap by comparison and easy on the eyes of a night time.

http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j396/Rocket5555/Build%20Pics%20Patrol/C163A771-7E23-4BD5-BC77-D744D8A5AD42_zps9hdewjyy.jpg (http://s1083.photobucket.com/user/Rocket5555/media/Build%20Pics%20Patrol/C163A771-7E23-4BD5-BC77-D744D8A5AD42_zps9hdewjyy.jpg.html)

Rod, would you happen to have a pic of the wiring on the back of the EGT gauge?
I've just bought the same secondhand but with no fitting instructions and the red twin core VDO thermocouple extension wire was cut off so has no terminals attached. I'm assuming it just uses the standard crimp on 6.4mm flat connectors.
Cheers..

[Rocket55]

I don't have a pic, but there's 4 standard male terminals on there. Power +Ve and -Ve, EGT probe +Ve and -Ve. Pretty sure they are all clearly marked. Then you also got the light which is self explanatory.

http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j396/Rocket5555/Stuff/E96D5677-EC82-457E-B7C3-C43E48D948E0_zpshxywwj2j.jpg (http://s1083.photobucket.com/user/Rocket5555/media/Stuff/E96D5677-EC82-457E-B7C3-C43E48D948E0_zpshxywwj2j.jpg.html)

[jff45]

Thanks Rod, I did find that image online. They use the standard red & yellow wires in their diagram but the original thermocouple is too short and the VDO extension uses brown & red.

I was hoping to see how the ends of the extension cable are terminated.
I think I'll just use standard lugs and test it on the bench first.

Cheers

[nissannewby]

I think I still have all the literature from my gauges that might have that info john.

[jff45]

I think I still have all the literature from my gauges that might have that info john.

Did you use the long red twin core extension that VDO supply?
What I'd like to know is if I can just crimp on a couple of standard flat connectors or if they have to be a particular metal.
I also have no idea how much, if anything, was cut from the original cable.
Info I've been able to find suggests the VDO gauges can't simply use any K type thermocouple like most EGT gauges can.

[Hodge]

Going to attempt my first oil and filter change this weekend. Never done it do there !might be a stuffed td42 after this weekend for sale. Wish me luck ???
15w-40 ???

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[Winnie]

Yep, I use Caltex Delo400

[Hodge]

Yep, I use Caltex Delo400
Where do you score some ??

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[Winnie]

I work around the corner from the Caltex depot here in Warragul, I buy it in 20L drums for under $100

[mudski]

Castrol RX Super is good for these motors too.

[Hodge]

Very hard to find Delo. Nearest place is caltex depot dandenong.

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[nissannewby]

Castrol RX Super is good for these motors too.

Not as good as others in my experince.

Basically any ci-4 or ci-4+ spec oil will be fine.

[Hodge]

What sort of oil does Nissan sell for the 4.2 ? I have a service kit voucher from them. Filter, oil and air filter.


Scratch that. Just read fine print... Only if THEY service it.

I'll stick with Delo. So, should I grab Delo 400 or Delo 400 Multigrade ?

[Hodge]

Didn't get around to it today. Nobody had delo on this side of Melbourne. Wasn't gonna drive 2 hours turnaround just for oil all the way to Dandenong.

[Rocket55]

Multigrade mate.

http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j396/Rocket5555/Build%20Pics%20Patrol/04ECDC52-AB8E-4B42-BAB8-9805DB5F39FC_zpskx7n5sf6.jpg (http://s1083.photobucket.com/user/Rocket5555/media/Build%20Pics%20Patrol/04ECDC52-AB8E-4B42-BAB8-9805DB5F39FC_zpskx7n5sf6.jpg.html)

[Hodge]

Don't want to hijack Mudskis thread any more but here is a second video (cold engine start) with the tappers??? chatter you can clearly hear.
As I mentioned in Mudskis thread the mechanic thinks it may be a pressure sensor ??? At the back of the pump. Have no idea how it works or what it does, but he said to try that first. Second video is the one when engine is warm.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrHvT3A_QL4&feature=youtu.be


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18Gx5XWvHvA

[Woof]

Sounds the same as mine mate, my mechanic said I should get the valves adjusted but now I am not sure, may just bite the bullet and get them checked anyway

[nissannewby]

Sounds notmal to me hodge. I took a recording of mine to send to mudski and I know everything on mine is good at 340k. It wouldnt hurt to get the valve clearances checked either way.

I check mine valves every 20k and hardly ever have to adjust them.

[Rocket55]

That's what mine sounds like mate. That engine bay is soo clean!

[Stropp]

mine is the same too, in fact when its cold it is noisier than any other 4.2 i have heard but when it warms up it is quieter. I have had the valves adjusted and double checked so i just think its normal for my car.

[Hodge]

Thanks folks, this morning it was freezing and I recorded it the second after start up. Will post it up later. You will hear exactly what I'm talking about.

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[threedogs]

A while back I think Winnie was saying its just a 4.2 thing, and most other 4.2 owners agreed ,
just one of the quirks you have to put up with driving/owning a 4.2TD

[Bacho86]

Thanks folks, this morning it was freezing and I recorded it the second after start up. Will post it up later. You will hear exactly what I'm talking about.

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If your really concerned I'm happy to swap my CRD for your 4.2? ha ha ha

[Hodge]

If your really concerned I'm happy to swap my CRD for your 4.2? ha ha ha

lol
No concerns here mate. I'm happy with it no matter how many clunks it makes....

[Hodge]

So I've got all the bits to do my first oil, filters, fuel and air filters this weekend on the 4.2 . To some of you it's a breeze, to me it's a mission. lol
Just realize I have to go and get one of them pump thingies for this 20L drum...
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=61541&stc=1

[Rocket55]

You'll be right mate, just take you time, there's no rush.

Warm it up first, don't do it cold, it helps the oil run out better.
Don't drop the sump plug into the catch container (remember the oil will be hot)
Make sure your catch container has enough capacity!
Take the oil filler cap off, helps it drain.
Change your filters
Put the sump plug back in - can't stress this enough haha
Fill it back up with oil - I use a 1 liter oil container to measure it out.

Fuel filter.
Take the 2 fuel lines off
Undo the 2 bolts and take the entire filter assembly off the car
Unscrew the filter over a bucket to catch the fuel.
Screw the new filter on
Put the assembly back in the car
Prime it up till it goes hard
Start it up

That's how I do it anyway.

This is the oil drum pump I got, seems to work Ok.
http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Tom-Thumb-Pump-To-Suit-Drum-20-Litre.aspx?pid=284709#Recommendations

[Bloodyaussie]

If ya get in trouble yell out Eric. ..

[nissannewby]

I will add to rockets response. Remove the fuel filter and filter head from bracket (dont forget to unplug water sensor). Then change the oil filters, much easier with the fuel filter out of the way.

You can also flip the filter assembly over and put the bolts back as this will allow you to undo it easier. You can just crack it without losing fluid and making a mess then empty into said container.

They take just over 11 litres.

The spouts that come in those drums make them fairly easy to poor if you have a funnel that fits in the filler. Or just find an old jug in the house :).

[Rocket55]

Some great tips there Newby :D

[jff45]

... and wash your starter motor down if you don't have a spill tray under the oil filters.. :-)

[jff45]

Small hijack, if I may.. While there are so many GU 4.2 owners in the same thread, please give me your opinion on the vibration level you feel in the driver's seat while idling.
I was probably spoilt by a very smooth TB45 petrol engine that idled beautifully but I'm finding the vibration from my converted TD42 auto quite noticeable. Maybe it's an auto trans thing..

[Ben-e-boy]

Small hijack, if I may.. While there are so many GU 4.2 owners in the same thread, please give me your opinion on the vibration level you feel in the driver's seat while idling.
I was probably spoilt by a very smooth TB45 petrol engine that idled beautifully but I'm finding the vibration from my converted TD42 auto quite noticeable. Maybe it's an auto trans thing..

Td's do vibrate, the have an odd firing order, if you have aftermarket engine mounts like the superior engineering ones that use a trailing arm bush. The vibrations will be amplified a bit.

[Winnie]

Td's do vibrate, the have an odd firing order, if you have aftermarket engine mounts like the superior engineering ones that use a trailing arm bush. The vibrations will be amplified a bit.

Yeah I've got these engine mounts and the vibration at idle is pretty bad. I should have just done it on the one side.

[threedogs]

Small hijack, if I may.. While there are so many GU 4.2 owners in the same thread, please give me your opinion on the vibration level you feel in the driver's seat while idling.
I was probably spoilt by a very smooth TB45 petrol engine that idled beautifully but I'm finding the vibration from my converted TD42 auto quite noticeable. Maybe it's an auto trans thing..

Cut some 6mm rubber and fit it under where the seat mounts,
made a huge difference in mine from road vibrations,
I just cut up some old conveyor belting

[jff45]

Yes, I was warned about the Superior mounts by a friend in WA who did the same TB45 Ti auto to TD42 auto conversion. He says he even has his sunroof frame that vibrates when he selects Drive.

I retained the little shock absorbers that the TB45s have on their engine mounts for the TD engine hoping it would help smooth things.

I'll see if I can learn to live with it..

Apologies for the hijack, Hodge

[Hodge]

Thanks a lot guys. All awesome advice.
I have changed oil heaps of times before , so i know the basics. just the first time on the 4.2 so, all tips and tricks are welcome as every car has its own hurdles . . .

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[Hodge]

If ya get in trouble yell out Eric. ..
Will do mate..Cold Coopers are on standby ha-ha

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[Winnie]

I cover the oil filters with a plastic shopping bag which stops the oil pouring out and making a mess

[Ben-e-boy]

I cover the oil filters with a plastic shopping bag which stops the oil pouring out and making a mess

I just have a spill tray made out of unistrut with tabs that use some existing bolt holes in the block and oil cooler

[Ben-e-boy]

mine is a bit like this.


61560

[Hodge]

I just have a spill tray made out of unistrut with tabs that use some existing bolt holes in the block and oil cooler
I have seen some bolt on trays under the filters that a bloke sells on the other forum ...
I had a look earlier and I reckon I can shape one of them alloy BBQ trays temporary for the same purpose.

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[Hodge]

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/09/359.jpg

Which way does the washer go. Plug through the flat side first or the flat side up against the sump ??

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[jff45]

Have a look here. Is that what you've got?

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[Hodge]

That's it mate. You legend. Flat side against the sump.
Cheers.

Didn't get to do it today either. Next weekend it is. Spewing.

[jff45]

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/09/83.jpg

Does this canister have a certain polarity ?? Can I swap these hoses around ? Would make a perfect fit. Lol

Hodge, I see in this pic that you have factory cruise control. Any chance of some clear pics of how it connects to the pump?
I need to get mine working since my conversion and I've never seen how the cable attaches on the factory unit.
Cheers!

[Hodge]

Sure mate. I'll take some snaps when I get home later.

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[jff45]

Cheers mate, also meant to ask what was the outcome of the noise level you were concerned about? I listened to the video you posted and it sounds very close to the noise level I have which I find annoying.
I know part of my problem is that I'm coming from a super quiet and very smooth TB45E.. :)

[Hodge]

I have had a few people tell me it is normal including some fairly knowledgeable blokes in this thread. Well when I say normal I mean it's very common be it normal or not. I got told by my mechanic to see how it goes after an oil change.

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[jff45]

I think I'd just like mine to be a little bit less "normal" :)

[Bloodyaussie]

I think you guys need to drive a clunky old 60's land rover for a couple of weeks then get back in your cars.... if you dont like it after that buy a hybrid.....lol

[jff45]

I think you guys need to drive a clunky old 60's land rover for a couple of weeks then get back in your cars.... if you dont like it after that buy a hybrid.....lol

Sure, but I'm coming from the other end of the spectrum where I was driving a super quiet, super smooth TB45E.

I'm learning to live with the vibration but the clackety clack is a bit annoying. Nissannewby (Mat) came by on the weekend with his TD42Ti ute and it doesn't clack anywhere near as loud as mine so there are some engines that don't do it..

[Hodge]

Tbh I don't give a rats behind how it sounds like, I'm just learning what's a normal and what's a bad sound on a td42. Proactive rather then reactive .

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[Hodge]

Hodge, I see in this pic that you have factory cruise control. Any chance of some clear pics of how it connects to the pump?
I need to get mine working since my conversion and I've never seen how the cable attaches on the factory unit.
Cheers!
I didn't forget this mate. Just haven't had the car last few days so I'll try and get some snaps later this arvo.

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[threedogs]

OOI what revs are these 4.2 TD GU's pulling at 100 kph, ??

[jff45]

I didn't forget this mate. Just haven't had the car last few days so I'll try and get some snaps later this arvo.

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That's ok, I've gone ahead and made something up anyway so no need now.. Thanks!

[nissannewby]

OOI what revs are these 4.2 TD GU's pulling at 100 kph, ??

Anywhere from 2200-2500rpm

[warthog1]

OOI what revs are these 4.2 TD GU's pulling at 100 kph, ??
Mine does 2500 in 5th at 110.
'00 td42t wagon. 285/75r16
Std 3.9 diffs

[Stropp]

OOI what revs are these 4.2 TD GU's pulling at 100 kph, ??

That will depend on gearing and tyres, 4.1 and 35's nine is 2300 rpm if I remember correctly

[Woof]

Hey mate, just got my 2006 4.2 with 90,000 ks back from the mechanics, got him to check the valve clearances only and some far there is no sound what so ever.
3 of the valves needed a slight adjustment......not saying that it will fix yours as it may be something else, letting you know anyway

[Hodge]

Straight through section on. Now it sounds like a 4.2 ...

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/10/77.jpg

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[Hodge]

Hey mate, just got my 2006 4.2 with 90,000 ks back from the mechanics, got him to check the valve clearances only and some far there is no sound what so ever.
3 of the valves needed a slight adjustment......not saying that it will fix yours as it may be something else, letting you know anyway

Good to hear yours is quiet now. I am pretty confident that mine is the plunger mechanism on the pump. Was just with Mudski before and his sounded quiet just like mine before his amplified greatly. I think my valves are overdue to be adjusted anyway so, I guess it'll all narrow it down sooner or later.

[Hodge]

New straight through pipe sounds awesome! I can't get any unpleasant drone or noise inside the cab, but early days yet... And I have gained a little bit of up and go as well which is a bonus.

[Hodge]

Oil, filters and fuel filter change finally done. Massive thanks to Bloodyaussie for coming around and observing the amateur. haha
And for driving off to grab a proper sump washer, after I realized they had given me the wrong one, after I squashed it and realized i the end it was too big. Big cheers mate !!!

Now I see what people mean when they talk about the mess when taking the oil filters off... It makes a c$%^ of a mess....
I'l be getting one of them trays like Ben-e-boy has for sure after this!

[Hodge]

A little while ago , Jonothan mentioned when he had the straight through pipe on the car, his gear rollover noise wasn't as bad. Happy to report that he was on the money !!!

I've only just realized that today that it's virtually gone, unless I'm really being lazy on the down-gearing... I did gain a bit of power with the pipe on, but how this has helped, I have no idea.

[Rocket55]

It is just as bad, only now you can't hear it over the exhaust or are distracted by the lovely exhaust note and don't notice it...

[Hodge]

It is just as bad, only now you can't hear it over the exhaust or are distracted by the lovely exhaust note and don't notice it...

Probably both! And yeah I cannot stop listening to this thing wind up nowdays, both left passenger windows are always down now haha!
But seriously it has reduced. Maybe it's got that little bit more go and crossed that "noise" point a tad faster.... I don't know.

[Rocket55]

How much louder is it inside the car with the windows UP? Does it drone on the highway?

[Hodge]

How much louder is it inside the car with the windows UP? Does it drone on the highway?

Honestly I have yet to hear any inside annoyance, in contrast to when I had the muffler on. I hardly ever have the radio on, so I would have noticed the extra sound with the straight through pipe on, that would bother me. And I'm on the freeway about 45 minutes worth every day sitting @ 100km/h average.
However that's just me. The wife is back from overseas in a bit, and as she will be the passenger, I'm keen to hear what she reckons, not that it'll make much difference haha.

Yes you can definitely hear it's a tad deeper and once it spools up you can hear that typical 4.2 "swirl" (pulled that one out of nowhere didn't i) sound. Also now you can definitely hear the turbo whistle that sweet tune... Love it!

[Rocket55]

Sounds like its a success then ( haha like that one..) I had a straight through on my Hilux (4 pot) and it was pretty loud and droned on the frewway. It didn't bother me and I got used to it, but my wife hated it and it gave her headaches (it was loud..) Interested to see how your wife reacts.

[Hodge]

Outback Ideas Recovery points fitted up! Bit of grinding and painting needed but bolted up spot on after that !

Arrived with bolts and ready to fit !!!


Ground away the needed bit of meat off the bull bar bracket and painted up!!

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62438&stc=1http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62439&stc=1

Fitted up !!!

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[nissannewby]

I dont like the look of the nut, spring and washer on the originaly tie down point. Need to use a ht washer or possibly a small insert for it.

[threedogs]

Agree Ill make a 6mm plate for you to use if you can give me rough dimensions
I never got to look behind i thought it was a captive nut, no big deal .
I'll drop something off at TJM on Monday for you

[Hodge]

You're talking about this bit ?? Concern being the washer bending/crushing into the gap ? I looked at this and was just gonna get some high tensile washers tomorrow morning. The shop around the corner was shut today.
Edit: I got some at work, but won't be there till Wednesday.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62443&stc=1

[threedogs]

I've just made two 8mm 40x40 washers for you
that looks like you'll still have some thread sticking out of the nut
I have HT washers here.

[Hodge]

I've just made two 8mm 40x40 washers for you
that looks like you'll still have some thread sticking out of the nut
I have HT washers here.

No stress mate, I'll just get some my self. You've already done enough work on these for me. Just some large HT washers and bingo.

[Hodge]

I also stuffed up the original "tow" hook's bolts / thread. Well, I'm not sure if it's stuffed up as I only undone them, and it took a bit of force. But now, there is no way in hell or heaven these bolts are going back in. The thread just does not want to grab. Concern is, it holds the bottom radiator support bar, thingie.

So I managed to slam one bolt in with a bunch of washers, and I guess somehow it created / re-created it's own thread?? But important thing is, that bracket is now secure and going nowhere.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62447&stc=1

[threedogs]

If really concerned you could put a heli coil in it.
As I told you I was buying heaps of tools, one thing thats become very
handy was a huge tap and die set about 600mm x 600mm two layers
Thats been a godsend on more than one time,
Looks like that bolt has been put in with a rattle gun at some stage

[Hodge]

If really concerned you could put a heli coil in it.
As I told you I was buying heaps of tools, one thing thats become very
handy was a huge tap and die set about 600mm x 600mm two layers
Thats been a godsend on more than one time,
Looks like that bolt has been put in with a rattle gun at some stage
Tap and die set ... To buy list !!

Edit: never used one so don't even know what I'm in for. Live and learn.

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[4bye4]

Tap and die set ... To buy list !!

Edit: never used one so don't even know what I'm in for. Live and learn.

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Tap and die set
1 Small ones get lost
2 Big ones never get used
3 No set actually has the size you want when you want it
4 When you snap a tap in a hole because you drilled too small, it is harder than a drill so you can't drill it out
5 All common drills are either too big or too small for your tap
Other than that they are a great addition to your tool set.:thumbup:

[threedogs]

This is my one, and you'd be surprised how many you actually use.
and worth every cent IMO. Of coarse you dont use some but who uses a 15mm spanner?
great for me as I can make bits up

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Tap-and-Die-Set-110-Piece-Metric-and-Imperial-New-/370276702554?hash=item563636195a:g:p4AAAMXQ74JTR4n l

[Hodge]

Alright. So excuse the ignorance ...
In Laymans terms, it's pretty much like a "bolt" with a thread, that's generally tougher than the metal you're tapping into, and as it's spun into the metal it creates or -recreates a thread ?????

[threedogs]

Bingo got it in one lol
Not to be confused with a thread file equally as handy IMO

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/THREAD-RESTORING-FILE-IMPERIAL-UNF-UNC-EXTERNAL-and-INTERNAL-RESTORE-NUTS-BOLT-/291585029941?hash=item43e3d27735:g:SucAAOxyzpdTjYL 3