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mudski
2nd March 2014, 10:37 PM
I hope those extractors are getting a paint job.

Bloodyaussie
3rd March 2014, 06:45 AM
They are painted... just have baked on clay!!!!!!

They are a lovely blue underneath as you can see.

Bloodyaussie
4th March 2014, 07:53 PM
Bruce is back!!!!!

George even personally delivered my car to my house in stilettos and a mini skirt!!!

I am wrapped... I want to head up the high country right now please.

I am so grateful to George Billy and there dad Harry for looking after my boy ..... I will pop in tomorrow to say thank you in person (and get hit with the bill, he he).

Got 500km of run in to do then another oil change then another 500km for the clutch and I should be right to go... yippee!!!

happygu
4th March 2014, 08:03 PM
Bruce is back!!!!!

George even personally delivered my car to my house in stilettos and a mini skirt!!!

I am wrapped... I want to head up the high country right now please.

I am so grateful to George Billy and there dad Harry for looking after my boy ..... I will pop in tomorrow to say thank you in person (and get hit with the bill, he he).

Got 500km of run in to do then another oil change then another 500km for the clutch and I should be right to go... yippee!!!



Fantastic Jonathan ...

Get it all done quick so we can go wheeling at Mt Disappointment on the 22nd .... just got to confirm the arrangements with the kids, and then I will put out a formal trip post...

And we don't want George to get a big head, but Well Done, and Well Done.....

Mic

BigRAWesty
4th March 2014, 08:06 PM
Awesome stuff mate. Fingers crossed its smooth sailing from here on in..

Winnie
4th March 2014, 08:25 PM
Pump out some kms then come away with me this weekend!


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Bloodyaussie
4th March 2014, 08:31 PM
Sorry I can't winnie I have to empty out the last of my mums stuff from her house....
The erg to play is overwhelming.

taslucas
4th March 2014, 08:50 PM
You can run it in while showing me the big city lights!

Alitis007
4th March 2014, 09:48 PM
Bruce is back!!!!!

George even personally delivered my car to my house in stilettos and a mini skirt!!!



You wish stilettos cupcake, knee high boots are more my style pml!!!

Bloodyaussie
5th March 2014, 08:57 PM
Today I got to enjoy having my car for the first time in weeks and it is lovely..

There was one thing that was troubling me and George and that was the idle rising and falling... plugged the computer in but no one clear answer.

One code that did come up was the oxygen sensor and George rang for a price but did not order as it was not clear if this was the problem but I had another at home so when I got back I swapped that out and the idle problem is now fixed.

I also did the unheard of and removed most of the stickers on my car (sorry Lucas) I promised Mags I would... I also removed the crap looking detail stripes down the side.

Billy did put a "HT's Service Centre" sticker on the back though... as he should.

I have to still set up the aux tank and fix the kinked filler hose for it as it is so tight for space it is hard to set up right.

One other thing I noticed recently was my bent upper control arm has a kink in it and think this may have happened when I snapped my lower control arm??

I look forward to doing a big trip where I dont have to carry 3 jerry cans on the roof as the dual fuel really limited my options and range.

Might have to sneak out to Matfews for a play in Wombat....he he!!!

Drewboyaus
5th March 2014, 09:10 PM
Photos please!

NissanGQ4.2
6th March 2014, 04:02 PM
Great news Johno, what did you do with your gas tank???

taslucas
6th March 2014, 06:59 PM
Lol, no need to be sorry mate. Next sticker order coming up!:-)

Bloodyaussie
6th March 2014, 07:06 PM
Great news Johno, what did you do with your gas tank???

I have all my gas gear here which I will sell shortly... mostly all new!!!

I do like my car looking clean Lucas and it is hard not to plaster my car again... my wife loves it without stickers all over it.

I have taken heaps of photo's and will get round to posting soon.

mudski
6th March 2014, 07:24 PM
Waiting for pics......

taslucas
6th March 2014, 07:43 PM
Yeah to be honest, Im not one for the plastered sticker look....... Lol

TPC
6th March 2014, 08:32 PM
I have all my gas gear here which I will sell shortly... mostly all new!!!

I do like my car looking clean Lucas and it is hard not to plaster my car again... my wife loves it without stickers all over it.

I have taken heaps of photo's and will get round to posting soon.

Where are the photo's?
You have had 1 1/2 hours, what's taking you so long?

Bloodyaussie
6th April 2014, 09:03 PM
Today I got to give the car a good run and mostly everything is brilliant except for one thing..... its running really rich??

I used a shit tonne more fuel than Drew today (I mean a lot) and I have been saying for weeks the smell is really strong... Mags walks out the back door at home and comments on it and today people driving behind me said it smelt really strong.

I have fitted new oxygen sensor had injectors cleaned new plugs changed air flow meters (waiting on a brand new one).... it's driving me mad!!!

Dont know what to do next??? I want it sorted before the High Country trip as it will cost me a fortune in petrol at this rate.

BigRAWesty
6th April 2014, 09:16 PM
Fuel pressure sensor maybe or pump?

Do they run a return in the efi?
Could be a blocked return forcing all fuel into burn??

nissannewby
6th April 2014, 09:20 PM
Are you still running that race cam?

Bloodyaussie
6th April 2014, 09:20 PM
Yeah they run a return....... I may look into that Kallen.

It kills me the thought of pulling out all the fuel gear again??

nissannewby
6th April 2014, 09:23 PM
Are you still running that race cam?

Also what plugs are you running? Do you know what the timing has been set at?

Bloodyaussie
6th April 2014, 09:32 PM
Also what plugs are you running? Do you know what the timing has been set at?

No I am not sure of the timing... and the plugs I will check again tomorrow as I cant remember what ones I fitted??

nissannewby
6th April 2014, 09:32 PM
What about the cam?

Bloodyaussie
6th April 2014, 09:39 PM
Tow cam....

nissannewby
6th April 2014, 09:50 PM
Interesting. Sorry about all the questions mate. But do you know exactly what "compression" mods were done to the motor prior to your changes?

Bloodyaussie
6th April 2014, 09:53 PM
No I dont???

I dont think there were any???

I tired and want to stop spending money...he he!!!!

nissannewby
6th April 2014, 10:02 PM
Never mind I re-read what I was reading and realised you spruced up your old engine and didn't use the other engine you bought. I'm tired too lol.

How much extra fuel are we talking? Are yours and drews cars similar in setups

Bloodyaussie
6th April 2014, 10:13 PM
We both have the same except for my cam which was a present from George and Billy (he will kill me for saying).

I used half a tank driving around the tracks today (25km) then drove home which is about 50 min drive on the freeway.. those behind me commented on how rich it smelt and I have been complaining for weeks about the smell.

Drews fuel gauge did barely move?

I would be interested in how Drew needs to top his tank back up so I know exactly how much he has used?

The other engine is sitting here which I need to get around to selling as it is sitting here doing nothing... really only good for big turbo set up!!!

happygu
6th April 2014, 10:16 PM
What is the actual litres per hundred of yours BA, and Drew's.

Clunk should be able to chime in with his too, as a comparison.

Winnie
6th April 2014, 10:21 PM
What is the actual litres per hundred of yours BA, and Drew's. Clunk should be able to chime in with his too, as a comparison.
Then Bob will can come along and tell you how bad it is, you lead foot! Get a tom tom hahaha

93patrol
6th April 2014, 11:33 PM
Maybe your ecu map is a bit out of sorts and it's holding your injectors open too long

Drewboyaus
7th April 2014, 12:08 AM
I'll top it up tomorrow when I take it down to wash that stinky as sh!t Tallarook mud off it and let you know how much I put in.

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BigRAWesty
7th April 2014, 09:21 AM
You won't have to pull the fuel system out.
Just locate your return on the tank, if it goes to the rear tank you'll be able to get it via inspection hatch in the cargo area.
Add a peice of line to it to clear the cab or drop it in front of the tank into a bucket, start it up. At idle it should be a good flow.

Bloodyaussie
7th April 2014, 09:24 AM
I cant get to the inspection hole... I can check it down along the chassis but where it may have run into grief is just before the tank as it was a really tight fit with all the extra fuel lines for the Aux tank after I took all the gas out.

BigRAWesty
7th April 2014, 09:30 AM
Does the return line go from solid to rubber at an easy to get to spot?? Can you divert it at that joint?
Maybe try and blow some air down the rest of it..

Drewboyaus
7th April 2014, 09:38 PM
41L I got in there and I travelled 162km since I filled up......works out about 24L/100km I think.
Not too bad for low range driving.

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Bloodyaussie
7th April 2014, 09:43 PM
41L I got in there and I travelled 162km since I filled up......works out about 24L/100km I think.
Not too bad for low range driving.

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Hmm ok I think I need to do some sums... I will fill up tomorrow and drive 100km then top up again and see what numbers I get.

This will be city driving and later in the week I can do a highway run and do another comparison..... then report back with my results.

Thanks Drew.

Drewboyaus
7th April 2014, 11:08 PM
No worries. Was just thinking that you also have a couple of extra inches lift on yours and I'm also running the skinnier tyres that have a reduced rolling resistance.

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Bloodyaussie
8th April 2014, 04:47 PM
Ok I did 50km exactly towing a very heavy gardening trailer with it full for nearly the whole 50km in city driving and put 12 litres in....

Now to do the other 50km tomorrow on the freeway... going to the RAAF base to take the kids out and we will see what results I get there??

The smell I get in the cab is more like an oil smell as today (maybe as it is cooler day) there it was really strong.

I've been told its because I am running petrol and because I have not finished the quarter chop but I ran petrol a lot before I took the gas out and I never got this smell in the cab before... it burns my eyes when it's really bad.

Hmmm....

Hodge
8th April 2014, 04:50 PM
Didn't Mudski mention the same thing on Sunday driving behind you? Very strong petrol burning smell... I couldn't smell s*** cause my nose was stuffed from that dust up there.

Bloodyaussie
8th April 2014, 04:55 PM
He said Petrol smell but I think it is more of an oil smell?????

You would only really notice if you were following me on the freeway for a bit to smell it.

Bloodyaussie
8th April 2014, 10:05 PM
So turbo???????

nissannewby
8th April 2014, 10:14 PM
Are all breathers hooked up correctly? Do the TB's have a charcoal canister? Is the filler neck, level sender/ in tank pump all sealed correctly? Your fuel isn't really looking any worse than drews.

taslucas
8th April 2014, 10:15 PM
Still got oil flicking onto your exhaust from that leaky seal?

Bloodyaussie
9th April 2014, 07:44 AM
The oil seal in the gear box was fixed .... Matty I am thinking it not fuel it is and oil smell??

With the head all done is it possible the rings are getting blow by ?

93patrol
9th April 2014, 08:24 AM
with the engine running take the oil filler cap of slowly of its under serious pressure then you'll have blowby,

Bloodyaussie
9th April 2014, 08:54 AM
I have just got under the car to do something quickly when I have just seen heaps of f%$king oil leaking between the engine and gearbox...... I am so f@cking broke from this and Mags just looked at me like she is sick to death of this car!!!!!!

F$Łking sick of it....really... I have no money left for this crap!!!! f$%k f%$k f%$k

93patrol
9th April 2014, 08:59 AM
take a deep breathe mate.

it will be ok its not the end of the world, i totally understand how your feeling as i too am having the same sort of issue with my car at the moment with zero funds to sort it out.

we have alot of good people on this forum and i am sure we can all pitch in somehow and help out.

if you need to vent mate send me pm with your number and we can hash it out

threedogs
9th April 2014, 09:01 AM
Not good mate, you thinking rear main seal ??
oil leaking down the back of the rocker cover

growler2058
9th April 2014, 09:05 AM
FFS that's sh1tty Johnno

krbrooking
9th April 2014, 09:17 AM
Far out man so sorry to hear that, as said before if ya need to vent more than welcome to ring or even stop in and if ya need a hand just yell out.

Alitis007
9th April 2014, 10:06 AM
The oil leak is the oil pump, with the new timing gear its making more oil pressure as the old units teeth were really stretched and wasn't working correctly.

The timing is set to 20*BTDC but the TPS. Is set a little richer for a little extra performance

growler2058
9th April 2014, 10:21 AM
The oil leak is the oil pump, with the new timing gear its making more oil pressure as the old units teeth were really stretched and wasn't working correctly.

The timing is set to 20*BTDC but the TPS. Is set a little richer for a little extra performance

Is the oil pump leaking or the rear main seal?? Or am I missing something

Edit Old rear main seal???

Alitis007
9th April 2014, 10:54 AM
Is the oil pump leaking or the rear main seal?? Or am I missing something Edit Old rear main seal???

Rear main is new, timing case oil seal is new, timing cover is re sealed, new sump gasket. It started leaking a couple of weeks ago when we dumped the oil after 500km or i should say we noticed it then and i told him to keep an eye on it, coz when we had the motor out it was dry otherwise it would have been changed. Jonathan and i are spewing coz the timing cover has to be removed to remove the oil pump.

nissannewby
9th April 2014, 10:56 AM
Is the the crankcase breather free of restriction?

Alitis007
9th April 2014, 10:59 AM
Yes Matty the PCV system was thoroughly cleaned while the head was being done

nissannewby
9th April 2014, 11:02 AM
Yes Matty the PCV system was thoroughly cleaned while the head was being done

Could it have been kinked or anything of the like on install?

Alitis007
9th April 2014, 11:04 AM
Could it have been kinked or anything of the like on install?
No mate , the pcv valve screws into the plenum and the other straight into the cross over pipe both rubber lines are too rigid to kink and if they did they would've cracked

Alitis007
9th April 2014, 11:05 AM
There was a lot on mud on the block so it may have been masking the oil leak till i pressure washed the block before i fitted the motor but like i said it was dry

growler2058
9th April 2014, 12:24 PM
Jonathan and i are spewing coz the timing cover has to be removed to remove the oil pump.

Absolute farkr!!

Bloodyaussie
9th April 2014, 12:43 PM
I am out with my kids today but on the way home I am going to stop and wash the engine....

There just seems to be too much coming from the engine gearbox????

Will know more later.

Also I topped up after another 50km and it was 10lt

growler2058
9th April 2014, 12:48 PM
I only get about 450km from a full tank (stock little pissy tank) N/Atd42

Winnie
9th April 2014, 12:55 PM
I am out with my kids today but on the way home I am going to stop and wash the engine....

There just seems to be too much coming from the engine gearbox????

Will know more later.

Also I topped up after another 50km and it was 10lt

That's not bad at all mate that's 20L/100km

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Bloodyaussie
9th April 2014, 01:09 PM
Yeah I am thinking the fuel economy is fine its the oil leak that is killing me.

I was comparing a stock tank with drews 140lt long range tank ...

Need to adjust my driving style to be a bit more economical. ....

Alitis007
9th April 2014, 02:38 PM
I am out with my kids today but on the way home I am going to stop and wash the engine.... There just seems to be too much coming from the engine gearbox????
It was running along the sump to the bell housing remember????

Cone past after you wash it and i'll put it up and we'll have a look again ok mate??

Bloodyaussie
9th April 2014, 07:54 PM
Only just washed under the engine as I was to tired from my day out with the kids....

Now Mags is having a melt down about this bloody house again...... like I need that right now!!!!

How come the older I get I am more patient with things and she is getting less patient ???

Parksy
9th April 2014, 08:38 PM
You are not alone BA. Just don't ask her that question, these things never end well. Hope you get your oil leak sorted cheaply and efficiently.

krbrooking
9th April 2014, 08:47 PM
Only just washed under the engine as I was to tired from my day out with the kids.... Now Mags is having a melt down about this bloody house again...... like I need that right now!!!! How come the older I get I am more patient with things and she is getting less patient ???

You know we are here to give you a hand man all you need to do is let us know when and what we need to do to help. As long as I have enough notice.

Hodge
9th April 2014, 08:54 PM
Why does crap like this happen to good people. It s**** me... And the crooks out there are thriving!

TPC
9th April 2014, 09:43 PM
How come the older I get I am more patient with things and she is getting less patient ???
I know what its like, I think half the stress in my life is caused by me worrying about how my wife will react to difficult situations.

Bloodyaussie
9th April 2014, 09:54 PM
My daughter was complaining about the smell today and told Mags about it.... she is now worried about the family being in the car for the High Country trip.

Good hey.. I dont blame her but it does get me down.

Oh well onwards and upwards!!!

Drewboyaus
9th April 2014, 11:10 PM
Did you find anything when you washed it?

EDIT: Actually, what I think you said earlier (I think) might be the answer......is the smell magnified in the car because if the qtr chop?


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mudnut
9th April 2014, 11:17 PM
I still have some fumes coming in the back of my Old Trol under heavy acceleration, even after using foam tape to seal the doors, so the smoke from an oil leak could very well get sucked up through the open panels. I have just read some of the work required for the oil pump. Radiator, shrouds, belts harmonic balancer etc. Big job if that is where the leak is.

Martl86
14th April 2014, 07:29 PM
Nice ride :smiley_thumbs_up:

Bloodyaussie
15th April 2014, 05:02 PM
My tensioner for the aircon was making heaps of noise so I managed to get a new one and fitted late today.... it was so loud it was embarrassing.

Also noticed idle was a bit funny so got the multi meter onto the tps and it was sitting on 5v so dropped it back down to 4v and adjusted the idle to suit.

Was in the middle of doing the mod on the viscous fan when the special oil I had disspeared right in front of me and after 30min of going crazy I just gave up and walked away...beer in hand and onto computer :cheers:

Bloodyaussie
29th April 2014, 03:48 PM
Just a little update... if its not too annoying and that is George fixed the oil pump leak just before our big trip and the car ran like a dream but there is another oil leak that is coming from the gearbox I put in from the donor car as my gearbox was noisy in 5th gear and syncro's were starting to play up a bit.

Many have been commenting about the smell as to have I and it seems the oil is running down the fork on the thrust bearing and landing on the exhaust leaving all who travel inside with burning eyes !!!!

Now I have to work out how I will approach this next issue?? As we were driving down to Dargo Mags was asking me to just sell the car and buy an X-Trail... she is so funny!!!

mudski
29th April 2014, 05:19 PM
Your not getting a break are you? What a sh*t about the oil leak. A prick of a job for just a seal...Back to George's workshop?

Bloodyaussie
29th April 2014, 05:53 PM
Yeah pretty hard pill to swallow as I am the most broke I have been in years but I cant just lay down and do nothing??

Other problem is my back is really bad? ?

Anyway onwards and upwards. .

Sir Roofy
29th April 2014, 05:54 PM
just a little update... If its not too annoying and that is george fixed the oil pump leak just before our big trip and the car ran like a dream but there is another oil leak that is coming from the gearbox i put in from the donor car as my gearbox was noisy in 5th gear and syncro's were starting to play up a bit.

Many have been commenting about the smell as to have i and it seems the oil is running down the fork on the thrust bearing and landing on the exhaust leaving all who travel inside with burning eyes !!!!



Now i have to work out how i will approach this next issue?? As we were driving down to dargo mags was asking me to just sell the car and buy an x-trail... She is so funny!!!

thats a smart girl up grade to a gu more room for the kids

Maxhead
29th April 2014, 05:58 PM
thats a smart girl up grade to a gu more room for the kids


Any smart bloke would just do the right thing by their missus and get a GU...simple and everyones happy:)

Winnie
29th April 2014, 06:02 PM
Any smart bloke would just do the right thing by their missus and get a GU...simple and everyones happy:)

He might as well leave his wife and get a boyfriend at the same time.

Maxhead
29th April 2014, 06:04 PM
hmmm, let me think of a come back on this one...bwahahaha PFC!

Bloodyaussie
29th April 2014, 06:06 PM
We just could not afford it right now even if I wanted to..... to be honest I am so close to having a decent rig be it a petrol gussler but I have done so much and of course would not get it back if I sold it.

Wahoo... time to put my apron on and cook dinner !!!!

mudski
29th April 2014, 06:09 PM
Yeah pretty hard pill to swallow as I am the most broke I have been in years but I cant just lay down and do nothing??

Other problem is my back is really bad? ?

Anyway onwards and upwards. .

I hear ya mate. Atleast the Dargo trip was good for you...

Sir Roofy
29th April 2014, 06:13 PM
we just could not afford it right now even if i wanted to..... To be honest i am so close to having a decent rig be it a petrol gussler but i have done so much and of course would not get it back if i sold it.

Wahoo... Time to put my apron on and cook dinner !!!!

know the broke feeling well getting ready for the simmo trip does,t leave me much change at the end of the fortnight

threedogs
29th April 2014, 06:37 PM
How are all your door seals if it smells as much as you say,
not good smelling/breathing fumes while driving major head aches.
A big safety issue

boots
29th April 2014, 07:41 PM
Anyway you don't come across as an x trail kind a guy .... more a Nissan Juke driver instead . hehe..

Bloodyaussie
29th April 2014, 07:43 PM
know the broke feeling well getting ready for the simmo trip does,t leave me much change at the end of the fortnight

Yeah Roofy the last time I was this broke was when I was supporting my mum about 5 years ago... paid her rent for a year, killer !!!

We will work through it though.

Not sure which way to go as it can be very expensive to rebuild a gearbox but I am having no luck with second hand of late????

I dont want to leave it too long as there is a brand new Ci clutch in there and I am worried it will turn to shit with oil getting on it.... hmmm

Family4x4
29th April 2014, 08:10 PM
Good luck BA, you don't deserve this crap.

mudnut
29th April 2014, 08:10 PM
The second hand gearbox I had put in my Old Trol has the same issues with the synchros in second gear, so I regret not getting a reco box. One wrecker in Melbourne (sorry,can't remember their name) reckon they do a partial reco of some boxes but still only offer a three month warranty.

nissannewby
29th April 2014, 09:11 PM
Yeah Roofy the last time I was this broke was when I was supporting my mum about 5 years ago... paid her rent for a year, killer !!!

We will work through it though.

Not sure which way to go as it can be very expensive to rebuild a gearbox but I am having no luck with second hand of late????

I dont want to leave it too long as there is a brand new Ci clutch in there and I am worried it will turn to shit with oil getting on it.... hmmm

Why do you need to rebuild the box?

If there is oil in there mate I would be wanting to repair it as soon as possible cos if the friction plate becomes oil impregnated then it will need to be replaced. Also are you keeping an eye on the oil levels so you know exactly where it's leaving from?

Bloodyaussie
29th April 2014, 09:17 PM
This box bites.... mainly 2nd gear and it also drops out of third and its own.

Still working out the best options now as this is all new.... I took a punt thinking that the box had done half the km's mine had done so thought I would be on a good thing, I was wrong and right??

My old box has a noisy 5th plus can be hard changing gear mainly in 4wd and also a very noisy bearing (George knows which one) as the one in there now has no bearing noise.

In trying to save a dollar I end up spending more.... lesson in this folks!!!!

nissannewby
29th April 2014, 09:19 PM
What oil are you using?

mudnut
29th April 2014, 09:25 PM
BA wrote; but there is another oil leak that is coming from the gearbox I put in from the donor car as my gearbox was noisy in 5th gear and syncro's were starting to play up a bit.

Not that the synchros are playing up.

I need new spectacles, as I misread his post. (Two times in as many days). The front seal only needs replacing. DUH mudnut read things more closely...

Bloodyaussie
29th April 2014, 09:27 PM
I would have to go outside and its cold and wet.... the bolts in my neck might rust???

nissannewby
29th April 2014, 09:31 PM
I would have to go outside and its cold and wet.... the bolts in my neck might rust???

Why is everything a question? If your worried about rust put some of the oil on them while your out seeing what it is lol. You need to make sure the oil is a gl-4 oil.

Bloodyaussie
29th April 2014, 09:38 PM
I cannot be 100% sure as I have done a big clean up and cannot remember if I used something else or if I did use the bottle of Castrol VMX80

My socks are wet!!!

mudnut
29th April 2014, 09:43 PM
So, gl-4 as opposed to gl-5 is still an issue, Matt? That could be the reason my other box failed because Nulon reckoned their gl-5 oil was the one for my RB30 gearbox, and I used it.

nissannewby
29th April 2014, 09:45 PM
I cannot be 100% sure as I have done a big clean up and cannot remember if I used something else or if I did use the bottle of Castrol VMX80

My socks are wet!!!

Who goes outside in just socks :p no wonder why your cold.

nissannewby
29th April 2014, 09:51 PM
So, gl-4 as opposed to gl-5 is still an issue, Matt? That could be the reason my other box failed because Nulon reckoned their gl-5 oil was the one for my RB30 gearbox, and I used it.

Gl-5 is ok but the synchros in the Nissan box behind the 4.2 ( petrol and diesel) and the 3.0 diesel (all the same box) much prefer the gl-4 oil. I cannot comment on the box behind the rb30 mate but if the manual specifies gl-4 then this is what I would be using.

I changed from a gl-5 to a gl-4 oil in my patrol and noticed the difference nearly straight away. My box had dramas down shifting to 4th from 5th and also 4th to 3rd once the gl-4 oil went in this has probably gotten 50% better. I don't think it will get better as the damage may have already been done prior to me purchasing the vehicle but alls I changed was the oil.

mudnut
29th April 2014, 09:56 PM
So which brand did you use? As I have to double clutch into 2nd when the box is cold.

nissannewby
29th April 2014, 09:58 PM
Hi-tech oils mate.

mudnut
29th April 2014, 10:04 PM
I will ring the mech who did the change out, and see if he can tell me if he used gl-5. Thanks, Matt.

nissannewby
29th April 2014, 10:05 PM
I will ring the mech who did the change out, and see if he can tell me if he used gl-5. Thanks, Matt.

Does it specify gl-4 for the rb30 box?

mudnut
29th April 2014, 10:18 PM
Sorry for the delayed answer. The original owners manual specifies GL 4 one of the after market manuals reckons 4 or 5

Alitis007
29th April 2014, 11:19 PM
Gl-5 is ok but the synchros in the Nissan box behind the 4.2 ( petrol and diesel) and the 3.0 diesel (all the same box) much prefer the gl-4 oil. I cannot comment on the box behind the rb30 mate but if the manual specifies gl-4 then this is what I would be using. I changed from a gl-5 to a gl-4 oil in my patrol and noticed the difference nearly straight away. My box had dramas down shifting to 4th from 5th and also 4th to 3rd once the gl-4 oil went in this has probably gotten 50% better. I don't think it will get better as the damage may have already been done prior to me purchasing the vehicle but alls I changed was the oil. The difference between gl4 and gl5 is the synthetic additives in the oil, gl5 has more that gl4 so unless the viscosity is different how does less friction modifiers make your synchro's mesh easier ??? I'm pretty sure the gu gear box uses a straight 75w oil but can't remember if the gq uses a 80w90 or a 75w aswell

mudnut
29th April 2014, 11:50 PM
When I did the gearbox oil change last year, before it died, I researched the issue. Apparently early on, when gl5 oils were first released, the gl5 additives that coat and attach to the synchros are stronger than the brass. When they are worn off, they take a small proportion of the brass with them. I was assured by Nulon that the problem had been rectified with more modern oils. But now I'm not so sure, so I will have to shell out for the gl4.

nissannewby
30th April 2014, 07:00 AM
The difference between gl4 and gl5 is the synthetic additives in the oil, gl5 has more that gl4 so unless the viscosity is different how does less friction modifiers make your synchro's mesh easier ??? I'm pretty sure the gu gear box uses a straight 75w oil but can't remember if the gq uses a 80w90 or a 75w aswell

It's well documented across these sorts of forums. It just seems the materials used in the boxes I mentioned earlier prefer the gl4 and I was just passing on my experience with the two different oils. Some additives in the gl-5 can attack yellow metals (brass,copper etc) which could possibly shorten the life. If it specifies gl-4 oil then why use something else? . Sometimes you can have to much of a good thing and it may be the case with the newer gl-5 classification.

Alitis007
30th April 2014, 08:32 AM
When I did the gearbox oil change last year, before it died, I researched the issue. Apparently early on, when gl5 oils were first released, the gl5 additives that coat and attach to the synchros are stronger than the brass. When they are worn off, they take a small proportion of the brass with them. I was assured by Nulon that the problem had been rectified with more modern oils. But now I'm not so sure, so I will have to shell out for the gl4.
It's well documented across these sorts of forums. It just seems the materials used in the boxes I mentioned earlier prefer the gl4 and I was just passing on my experience with the two different oils. Some additives in the gl-5 can attack yellow metals (brass,copper etc) which could possibly shorten the life. If it specifies gl-4 oil then why use something else? . Sometimes you can have to much of a good thing and it may be the case with the newer gl-5 classification.

Cheers guys! I know with new diesel motors the friction modifiers affect the particulate filter but didn't realize it had that sort of effect on the synchro's aswell

Family4x4
30th April 2014, 09:25 AM
Are the td42 and tb42 boxes different or just the bell housing?

93patrol
30th April 2014, 09:37 AM
Just the bell housing is different

Family4x4
30th April 2014, 09:42 AM
I would chip in $100 and fit the new box if that would help BA, there are a few second hand boxes on ebay.

Bloodyaussie
30th April 2014, 12:26 PM
I would chip in $100 and fit the new box if that would help BA, there are a few second hand boxes on ebay.

Its all good mate.... I will be making some changes soon and have to restructure my business and life so will get through this.

Tell ya what though that high country driving shook a lot of my electrics about and I have to go over a few things... my damage from that trip was a mudflap bending back and electrics such as lights not working properly.

Everything else went very well .

Bloodyaussie
13th May 2014, 04:18 PM
What should I do... well I know what to do but have no money to do it???

The gearbox is pissing oil out of it and needs seals put in plus it jumps out of third on its own and bites when trying to get into 2nd when 4wding..

My original gearbox needs even more work for it to be viable.. Now Matty has offered me another gearbox but knows not of its history????

I dont have the money at the moment to pull down a gearbox and rebuild it but the effort it takes to take out and put back in I dont want to do it for the 4th time....

Do I take my chances on Matts gearbox?? fruit fudge sticks !!!!!!!!!

MudRunnerTD
13th May 2014, 05:07 PM
Mate if the one in the car is Knackered then I'd try your luck with the one from Matt assuming it's the right price? Your luck has to change mate.

Bloodyaussie
13th May 2014, 05:13 PM
Mate if the one in the car is Knackered then I'd try your luck with the one from Matt assuming it's the right price? Your luck has to change mate.

Matty feels sorry for me as I am a sad case and is donating it.... he has even offered to do the work at his house as he thinks George does enough for me..

I just dont want to set myself up for a fall????

krbrooking
13th May 2014, 05:45 PM
Matty feels sorry for me as I am a sad case and is donating it.... he has even offered to do the work at his house as he thinks George does enough for me.. I just dont want to set myself up for a fall????

Could you not take the best of the three boxes and make one nearly 100% and if you need an extra hand lifting and fitting the box just give me enough notice and I will be there with bells on man.

mudski
13th May 2014, 06:21 PM
Do the GU 5speeds fit in the Q's? I have one here with a fubar 5th gear but have the update kit coming for it.

Bloodyaussie
13th May 2014, 06:26 PM
No idea at all.................

Irish
13th May 2014, 06:39 PM
Far out, gearbox too?!!! Gimme a shout if you need an extra set of hands.

growler2058
13th May 2014, 06:52 PM
Chuck in MAtts box.....................

Oh yeah, Shoulda got a LoKKa

matfew
13th May 2014, 09:42 PM
GU shifter is in a different spot from what i am told.

mudski
13th May 2014, 09:56 PM
GU shifter is in a different spot from what i am told.

Yes it is too.
Bummer, could'a had a good gearbox for ya...

nissannewby
13th May 2014, 10:31 PM
GU shifter is in a different spot from what i am told.

It is but this part all bolts on to the same box pretty much so it could be possible to swap the tops over. The ratios are different in the 1st 3 gears though in the gu.

Bloodyaussie
14th May 2014, 09:21 AM
It is but this part all bolts on to the same box pretty much so it could be possible to swap the tops over. The ratios are different in the 1st 3 gears though in the gu.

Now am I right in that the TD42 also has different ratios???

Taken the day off and have to repair exhaust and am waiting for a call bacl from 360 gearbox and at a quick mention they said $2950 ...... FARKK !!!!!!!!!

nissannewby
14th May 2014, 10:21 AM
Now am I right in that the TD42 also has different ratios???

I am not 100% on that one mate but I thought they were the same box as both the petrol and diesel operate in near the same rpm range the petrol just goes to 6 where our diesel doesn't. It will be in the manual if you have time to look.

Alitis007
14th May 2014, 11:10 AM
Heres some ratios i found a little while back while i was doing some research

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Bloodyaussie
14th May 2014, 12:05 PM
Well I have finished with the exhaust... there were leaks everywhere.. had to pull off the tail pipe as it was leaking heaps from there.

The welding went well and never knew you could get welding rods as low as 2mm... great for these little jobs where thin metal is to be welded.

Will go for a drive after lunch and see if there is any difference with the smell in the car??

Bloodyaussie
14th May 2014, 01:44 PM
Well a strange thing happened.... I went up to JPC to speak to Mark about my car and ended up leaving it there and walking home.

It is getting a dyno run so all the guessing ends now hopefully.... a bit nervous actually.

BigRAWesty
14th May 2014, 01:45 PM
Heres some ratios i found a little while back while i was doing some research

<img src="http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=44513"/>

So it seem the only difference is between is auto and manual..

Bloodyaussie
14th May 2014, 03:43 PM
I have a fuel issue it seems but am putting out 80kw...
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Hodge
14th May 2014, 05:30 PM
I actually have to go back and see Mark as he thinks my Turbo is cactus and wants to dyno it properly. Thanks for the reminds BA!

Irish
14th May 2014, 05:54 PM
I have a fuel issue it seems but am putting out 80kw...
44516

Question, the stock figures for the tb42 are for around 129kw, but is that measured at the crank or wheels?

I'm assuming thatit's at the crank, else your rig is waaaay down on power.

Bloodyaussie
14th May 2014, 05:57 PM
Well Mark pretty much works mostly on 4wd's and has built many of the engines in the racing scene and says they are good kw figures and I would be hard stretched to get better results??

Irish
14th May 2014, 06:10 PM
Guessing the 129 is crank tested then, does he have any solid thoughts on whats throwing your fuelling out of whack?

Winnie
14th May 2014, 06:11 PM
Question, the stock figures for the tb42 are for around 129kw, but is that measured at the crank or wheels?

I'm assuming thatit's at the crank, else your rig is waaaay down on power.

129kW would be measured at the flywheel, and probably exaggerated a bit too.
80kW is great for a TB42E. Jonathan remember that before I did anything to my car it had 80kW. More torque but still.

Bloodyaussie
14th May 2014, 06:14 PM
He said my pump is stuffed as he tested the flow and pressure... George wants me to check that the pump is getting 12v and to borrow a Fuel reg before spending on another pump.

I dont have a spare reg here I dont think? and to test the pump is getting 12v I have to drop the tank which means removing the tow bar....blah!!!!

Irish
14th May 2014, 06:22 PM
Do I have a regulator on any of the sh*t at mine?

If I do you can grab it.

The regulator!!!!!

Bloodyaussie
14th May 2014, 06:24 PM
Do I have a regulator on any of the sh*t at mine?

I dont know... I just went outside to see if I had an injector rail but I dont seem to??

Irish
14th May 2014, 06:25 PM
I'm not 100% sure but I might have two? Will have a lookski.

Irish
14th May 2014, 07:11 PM
Okay, I have two rails, what does the regulator look like?

Bloodyaussie
14th May 2014, 07:13 PM
Cylinder the size of a thumb that has an outlet for fuel and an inlet for vacuum.... will be at the end of the rail towards the front.

Irish
14th May 2014, 07:36 PM
Cool, I should at least have one you can use?

nissannewby
14th May 2014, 08:22 PM
With all this mate why not just start the turbo build?

Bloodyaussie
14th May 2014, 08:25 PM
I am silly broke..... would love to but have not been this broke in 7 years so just need my car running right then leave it be for awhile.

BigRAWesty
14th May 2014, 09:02 PM
What's wrong with your gearbox? (original)
Can you afford a rebuild kit?
Will current one last a bit longer to complete rebuild?
Can you afford the time to tear down yourself? And mostly are you up to it??

nissannewby
14th May 2014, 09:28 PM
I am silly broke..... would love to but have not been this broke in 7 years so just need my car running right then leave it be for awhile.

I should have put a lol on my last response mate just trying to lighten the mood.

Bloodyaussie
14th May 2014, 09:57 PM
All good Matty as I was toying with the idea of turbo mate.....

I keep hearing things like "Ya should'a done this" and "If only you had been here a couple of weeks ago you could have"

It will be good in the end.... I love my car !!!!!!

The gearbox thing is whats really bugging me... big dollars if I want to do it right, 360 said the box they would exchange would outlast my car.

nissannewby
14th May 2014, 10:03 PM
All good Matty as I was toying with the idea of turbo mate.....

I keep hearing things like "Ya should'a done this" and "If only you had been here a couple of weeks ago you could have"

It will be good in the end.... I love my car !!!!!!

The gearbox thing is whats really bugging me... big dollars if I want to do it right, 360 said the box they would exchange would outlast my car.

You can only do what you can mate. Take the advice on board and keep on keeping on the best you can. It really doesn't matter when we say you should have done this or that but we will still try to help you out bud.

Drewboyaus
14th May 2014, 10:14 PM
^^^ couldn't have put that any better!

Bloodyaussie
14th May 2014, 10:29 PM
Onwards and upwards !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Clunk
14th May 2014, 10:43 PM
Inwards and outwards????? :D

krbrooking
14th May 2014, 10:52 PM
All good Matty as I was toying with the idea of turbo mate..... I keep hearing things like "Ya should'a done this" and "If only you had been here a couple of weeks ago you could have" It will be good in the end.... I love my car !!!!!! The gearbox thing is whats really bugging me... big dollars if I want to do it right, 360 said the box they would exchange would outlast my car.

Like I suggested before could you not take the best of the three boxes and make one reasonable one out of them for now until you can afford to do the job properly.

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Alitis007
15th May 2014, 02:16 PM
How bout we slap a turbo on to kill this beast then put a lazy big v8 in it ??

Bloodyaussie
15th May 2014, 02:24 PM
How about you lot pay for it!!!!

Got home early and started draining the very full petrol tank....

Will fit a pump first and then look at the fpr....

Trying to get this done today as tomorrow I am flat out with the kids then Saturday off on the Toolangi trip..... woot woot !!!!!

BigRAWesty
15th May 2014, 03:10 PM
Overhaul your original box..

www.ebay.com.au/itm?itemId=131184600806

And maybe the 5th gear upgrade is you need it..

Bloodyaussie
15th May 2014, 05:33 PM
Link fail...!!!!!!

TPC
15th May 2014, 05:40 PM
Link fail...!!!!!!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/131184600806?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2F i.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D1311846 00806%26_rdc%3D1

Alitis007
15th May 2014, 10:34 PM
That kit is just bearings, i would atleast throw in a set of synchro's if i was going to the extent of stripping it down but i think thats where most of the moneys is

Bloodyaussie
16th May 2014, 09:23 PM
What a day... Bruce is up and running thanks to a new fuel pump George got for me... It is a high flow perfomance pump which I picked up yesterday only to find it was not going to be a quick swap over.

George came round last night and after a short fiddle decided to take it with him and sort during the day.. turns out it was missing the right rubber bit in the bum..

Got a text about 1.30pm saying it was ready and not long after I picked it up and got started on the install... I was rushing as I had kids to pick up and still had shopping to do and also pack for the weekend.

Started the car and the pump sounds very different.. I think it feels a lot better but have only been able to go for short drives while running errands and tomorrow will be the test.

George wants to tune it all when I get back from the trip and also run it on his mates dyno to see what can be had.

The pump is tiny compared to the other.......

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x260/jpgpz/20140516_145456_resized_zps6fbce8af.jpg (http://s184.photobucket.com/user/jpgpz/media/20140516_145456_resized_zps6fbce8af.jpg.html)

mudnut
16th May 2014, 09:34 PM
I hope the pump does the job for you. http://www.austtrans.com/catalogues.aspx This mob were very helpful when I was looking at options for when my gearbox died.

Parksy
16th May 2014, 09:46 PM
Nice work BA. Hope it sorts out your issue.

With regards to your gearbox issues, what's the condition of the bushes on the end of the gear selector? I know if these are worn it can make gear changes a bit grabby.

Alitis007
17th May 2014, 11:19 AM
That base grommet doesn't come in the kit to mount that 38mm pump to a 52mm sender unit

Bloodyaussie
16th June 2014, 08:04 AM
Its only logical now


45833

So just pick one.........

I will just pay with love !!!!! and maybe a few cuddles .....

Bloodyaussie
17th June 2014, 08:47 AM
Just got my petrol bill this morning and Mags is getting pretty tired of it... (as am I) not sure how long I can sustain this..

Found out motopass have been charging a $60 late fee, only a day late... thats $120 in the last 2 months in late fees.. they can get faarrked !!!!!!

rusty_nail
17th June 2014, 09:05 AM
Just got my petrol bill this morning and Mags is getting pretty tired of it... (as am I) not sure how long I can sustain this..

Found out motopass have been charging a $60 late fee, only a day late... thats $120 in the last 2 months in late fees.. they can get faarrked !!!!!!

whats motopass? is it like e-tag? how much is it costing you weekly to run the troll?

Bloodyaussie
17th June 2014, 09:15 AM
whats motopass? is it like e-tag? how much is it costing you weekly to run the troll?

Motopass is a petrol card so Mags can keep tabs on our fuel use so when it comes to tax time she is not trying to find all my scrunched up receipts... think a basic credit card is the go for petrol only?

Last month my bill is $600 for my car alone but its not that its $600 its the fact I have hardly done any km's... I need to start keeping a log book like George does so I can work out exactly where its all going.

The month before my petrol bill combined was over $1100 and that included the Dargo trip and did a lot more km's and was towing a lot that month.

Saw a TD42 on ebay that suits being used as a donor but no turbo for $4700 ????

rusty_nail
17th June 2014, 09:24 AM
Motopass is a petrol card so Mags can keep tabs on our fuel use so when it comes to tax time she is not trying to find all my scrunched up receipts... think a basic credit card is the go for petrol only?

Last month my bill is $600 for my car alone but its not that its $600 its the fact I have hardly done any km's... I need to start keeping a log book like George does so I can work out exactly where its all going.

The month before my petrol bill combined was over $1100 and that included the Dargo trip and did a lot more km's and was towing a lot that month.

Saw a TD42 on ebay that suits being used as a donor but no turbo for $4700 ????

yeah wow, thats a big bill. now you know why i passed on the shorty, they petrol and gas was just too uneconomical to run. and gas is just too hard to come by in remote locations. i think between todd and I we spent over $1000 on fuel on the october trip. im under no illusions driving 4wds isnt cheap but that was too much(it worked out at like $200 a day).

i know how much time and effort you have spent getting your current motor working well, and i know some people have suggested it before mate, maybe it is time to cut your losses and sort out the diesel motor. it would cost you more than 4700 tho right? i think rossco said his setup cost around 6K or more?

Bloodyaussie
17th June 2014, 09:31 AM
yeah wow, thats a big bill. now you know why i passed on the shorty, they petrol and gas was just too uneconomical to run. and gas is just too hard to come by in remote locations. i think between todd and I we spent over $1000 on fuel on the october trip. im under no illusions driving 4wds isnt cheap but that was too much(it worked out at like $200 a day).

i know how much time and effort you have spent getting your current motor working well, and i know some people have suggested it before mate, maybe it is time to cut your losses and sort out the diesel motor. it would cost you more than 4700 tho right? i think rossco said his setup cost around 6K or more?

Yeah Rossco's was about the $6000 mark but he bought his stuff from Patrolapart and said he thinks buying another car is a better option as there were too many little things that he needed that you dont know about until you are into it.

I need to have a serious talk with Mags...... roll over from the auctions maybe??? I have spent so much on this thing lately.

rusty_nail
17th June 2014, 09:50 AM
Yeah Rossco's was about the $6000 mark but he bought his stuff from Patrolapart and said he thinks buying another car is a better option as there were too many little things that he needed that you dont know about until you are into it.

I need to have a serious talk with Mags...... roll over from the auctions maybe??? I have spent so much on this thing lately.

yeah i know the feeling mate, mum and did have a VW Polo, and its been in the family from new. They are really attached to it, i think because it was the first car they bought brand new, and the car that all us kids learned to drive in etc. Its a 99 model, its had the head and the clutch replaced over its life and in the last 12ish months the rear brakes went on it so in went new assemblies and drums, $1000. next went 5th gear, $750 for box + $600 labour. the car isnt even worth that but they want to keep in on the road and not just get rid of it. so now they are in over their heads and its worth more to them than whats it could be sold for. they are of the mentality that eventually it will run out of things to break lol.

i sounds like your there mate, so you might as well make good of what you have and forge on with the direction your headed. at least you know everything else is sound in it and your not just inheriting someone elses problems if you buy another car. good luck with it all matey.

Family4x4
17th June 2014, 10:32 AM
I don't know why i went to car citys website the other day but i did.

http://www.carcity.com.au/details.asp?stk=3397&dlr=wescitaut&loc=

The above looked interesting but had me questioning myself as to what is wrong with it. Or is it a 2.8ltr?

rusty_nail
17th June 2014, 10:37 AM
I don't know why i went to car citys website the other day but i did.

http://www.carcity.com.au/details.asp?stk=3397&dlr=wescitaut&loc=

The above looked interesting but had me questioning myself as to what is wrong with it. Or is it a 2.8ltr?

yeah thats 2,8L im sure

Bloodyaussie
17th June 2014, 10:52 AM
Something has to give thats for sure....

Here is a quick snapshot on idle.
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Sir Roofy
17th June 2014, 10:55 AM
something has to give thats for sure....

Here is a quick snapshot on idle.
45885

you,l have a brain snap trying to watch and drive with that lot

Winnie
17th June 2014, 11:19 AM
If you sell the car I won't be your friend any more.
If you put a diesel in it I will love you even more.

rusty_nail
17th June 2014, 11:52 AM
If you sell the car I won't be your friend any more.
If you put a diesel in it I will love you even more.

get a pathfinder... hahaha

taslucas
17th June 2014, 12:58 PM
If you sell the car I won't be your friend any more.
If you put a diesel in it I will love you even more.

Easy choice then Jonathan, buy a new diesel and lose the big fuel bills and Winnie in one go! Life's good!

Bloodyaussie
17th June 2014, 05:28 PM
Easy choice then Jonathan, buy a new diesel and lose the big fuel bills and Winnie in one go! Life's good!

I cant afford repayments on 2 new cars... one is bad enough !!!

nissannewby
17th June 2014, 05:36 PM
yeah thats 2,8L im sure

Yes it is a 2.8.

nissannewby
17th June 2014, 05:39 PM
Something has to give thats for sure....

Here is a quick snapshot on idle.
45885

Is the tps v and timing reading correct there?

Bloodyaussie
17th June 2014, 06:12 PM
Tps is but the timing is not... I spoke to Parksy and he said for some reason when plugged into the TB42E thats the reading that shows... I plugged it into Georges car and the timing was spot on?? not sure why.

nissannewby
17th June 2014, 06:31 PM
Interesting that the timing reads that. Is it only with that style of reader? Does George have a you beaut snap on or similar reader?

Bloodyaussie
17th June 2014, 06:34 PM
Yeah and it is spot on... it is set at 23 degrees?? Its not pinging and the car drives perfect but since the new pump went in it is using way more than it did before???

rusty_nail
17th June 2014, 06:34 PM
I cant afford repayments on 2 new cars... one is bad enough !!!

sell both cars and get a newer troll like i did! its not that embarrasing driving a 3L and besides im wayy above everyone, so i get to look down on them!

nissannewby
17th June 2014, 06:37 PM
Yeah and it is spot on... it is set at 23 degrees?? Its not pinging and the car drives perfect but since the new pump went in it is using way more than it did before???

Yeah the timing sounds like it's not the culprit. Do you know the conditions of the injectors? Are you putting then same amount of fuel in every time?

Bloodyaussie
17th June 2014, 06:43 PM
On idle the injectors do move a bit but for the most part sit around .4milliseconds which is too long from what I have been told??

The injectors were from my donor car and were sent to be cleaned and checked for leaking???

I have thought maybe injectors??

I have to pop to the shops in a minute so will try and get a value on them while driving..... eyes on the road Rhonder !!!

nissannewby
17th June 2014, 06:45 PM
On idle the injectors do move a bit but for the most part sit around .4milliseconds which is too long from what I have been told??

The injectors were from my donor car and were sent to be cleaned and checked for leaking???

I have thought maybe injectors??

I have to pop to the shops in a minute so will try and get a value on them while driving..... eyes on the road Rhonder !!!

Yeah I was thinking injectors. What about maf voltage?

Parksy
17th June 2014, 07:00 PM
I wish I could pop over and take it for a spin, just to get a feel for it and see what it's doing. My patrol returns about 15l per 100km. Yours should be the same. What does the accelerator pedal feel like? Does it feel pokey? Eg, on mine, I only need to push it down no more than 2cm because all the power is there. No need to sink it into the floor. Generally if you need to constantly sink the pedal to drive normally then something is not right. I know your O2 sensor isn't right, it should fluctuate when driving.

Bloodyaussie
17th June 2014, 07:04 PM
Injectors went up to 15.00 on normal acceleration and even hit 20.00 for a nano second.

The maf voltage sits at about 1.6v on idle but 3.6 on acceleration ??

Bloodyaussie
17th June 2014, 07:26 PM
The o2 sensor is new but a cheap one off ebay and does fluctuate but spends most of its time at .9v

The car drives beautiful Andrew but the fuel gauge is moving so quick... this tank I am now in the last quarter of a tank and I have only done about 250km .

nissannewby
17th June 2014, 07:28 PM
The o2 sensor is new but a cheap one off ebay and does fluctuate but spends most of its time at .9v

The car drives beautiful Andrew but the fuel gauge is moving so quick... this tank I am now in the last quarter of a tank and I have only done about 250km .

Wow. I know you know but that's shocking. So did the injectors all check out?

Bloodyaussie
17th June 2014, 07:32 PM
Injectors went up to 15.00 on normal acceleration and even hit 20.00 for a nano second.

The maf voltage sits at about 1.6v on idle but 3.6 on acceleration ??

You missed the post.... I have been waiting and drooling all over my computer

nissannewby
17th June 2014, 07:36 PM
I'm not a 100% certain but those voltages seem to be ok considering their operating range.

Bloodyaussie
17th June 2014, 07:40 PM
I'm not a 100% certain but those voltages seem to be ok considering their operating range.

Pooh....... I was hoping for a miracle.

I have changed out 3 afm's 1 o2 sensor.. changed my ecu as the other was drowned ,new tps...

Its all I think about.... I need a life.. bwa ha ha ha!!!!

krbrooking
17th June 2014, 08:28 PM
You poor bugger man, I hope you get this sorted soon. Have you thought of doing what i did and just buying a banger to get around in and tow the trailer, the repayments on it are only $65/week. Which by the sounds of it would be a lot cheaper than the fuel bill.

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Parksy
17th June 2014, 10:30 PM
What temp does your engine usually run at BA? It says 78 in the pic you posted which is fairly cool. A cold engine will use more fuel. Should have an 82 degree c thermostat. Diesels run a 76 degree c thermostat.

Have you ever pulled apart the aac or what ever it's called off the back of the plenum and given it a clean? I'm not 100% on what it does, but it does play a part in changing the airflow within the engine and also changing the idle speed when you turn the ac on. They do get gummed up which will effect its operation. There's a valve or 2 on springs that can go stiff and not slide properly if dirty. Carb cleaner and brush for the win.

Bloodyaussie
17th June 2014, 10:52 PM
What temp does your engine usually run at BA? It says 78 in the pic you posted which is fairly cool. A cold engine will use more fuel. Should have an 82 degree c thermostat. Diesels run a 76 degree c thermostat.

Have you ever pulled apart the aac or what ever it's called off the back of the plenum and given it a clean? I'm not 100% on what it does, but it does play a part in changing the airflow within the engine and also changing the idle speed when you turn the ac on. They do get gummed up which will effect its operation. There's a valve or 2 on springs that can go stiff and not slide properly if dirty. Carb cleaner and brush for the win.

Normally sits at about 82-84c and I have a spare one of those acc things in mint condition. ..

Bloodyaussie
18th June 2014, 05:40 PM
Kept quiet about a booked dyno run for today and rushed around like a madman to get there by 8.30am to be told " Didn't anyone ring you the dyno is not working"...

Got told to come back in the afternoon and it would be done then.. came back and got told to ring again tomorrow morning about 10am to see??? I took the day off work for this and just got stuffed around...bloody pissed.

Billy did a fuel pressure test and it came in at about 36psi??

Parksy
18th June 2014, 06:03 PM
Bugger!!

36 psi is no good. If your pump is new then the next thing would be the regulator. Sometimes you can tell if the regulator is u/s by removing the vacuum line while the engine is running. If fuel comes out, it's bad. Sometimes it can take 5 mins of running before fuel will come out. But this isn't always the case with a bad regulator, it just could be one of the symptoms.

Bloodyaussie
18th June 2014, 06:12 PM
Why what should it be???

I had to read your post a bunch of times then...... brain elsewhere!!! just been looking at Toyota diesels on ebay.... bwa ha ha ha

Parksy
18th June 2014, 06:24 PM
Should be 40psi. Doesn't seem like a big difference but mine used to be 36psi also. When I changed the pump it jumped up to 40 and made a big difference to how it ran.

Bloodyaussie
18th June 2014, 06:27 PM
So with the vacuum line off there should be no fuel coming out of the reg?>??? is this correct???

I actually thought it was supposed to be 40psi and stated so but edited my post as I thought how can 4 psi make a difference??

Parksy
18th June 2014, 06:30 PM
That's correct. No fuel should come out. There are some YouTube videos of blokes testing their regulators.

Alitis007
18th June 2014, 06:35 PM
Hate to burst your bubble but like i said if it was at 229kp@12v ( about 40 psi) like its meant to be, your economy would be worse. Theres something there that i can't put my finger on, get it dynoed see what they say

Parksy
18th June 2014, 06:36 PM
But if it's a dodgy regulator leaking petrol into the intake, that's not going to help economy...

Bloodyaussie
18th June 2014, 06:41 PM
I just sliced my finger open like a bitch..... might need stitches.. !!!!! fwark..

With the vacuum line removed fuel was pissing out..????

Parksy
18th June 2014, 06:42 PM
There's your problem. New regulator is needed.

Alitis007
18th June 2014, 06:45 PM
But if it's a dodgy regulator leaking petrol into the intake, that's not going to help economy...

Thats if the diaphragm is torn. I think he might have a spare one in his pile of spares...


I just sliced my finger open like a bitch..... might need stitches.. !!!!! fwark.. With the vacuum line removed fuel was pissing out..????

Your a disaster kid mate, no wonder your falling apart!!

Bloodyaussie
18th June 2014, 06:46 PM
Just googled it and my mistake.... cut myself open for nothing... I going to get my gun!!!!!

Parksy
18th June 2014, 06:48 PM
Did you remove a fuel line??

Alitis007
18th June 2014, 06:50 PM
Just googled it and my mistake.... cut myself open for nothing... I going to get my gun!!!!!

Don't over dramatize it mate its only a paper cut

Bloodyaussie
18th June 2014, 06:56 PM
Did you remove a fuel line??

What.... the first time I removed the return fuel line and the vacuum line.... and of course fuel was pissing out of the outlet for the return line.. yes I am a dopey prick.

As for paper cuts I have had over 27 stitches in my right hand alone and removed most ... lost count on the left hand.

Wheres my dinner I am hungry.

nissannewby
18th June 2014, 06:59 PM
What.... the first time I removed the return fuel line and the vacuum line.... and of course fuel was pissing out of the outlet for the return line.. yes I am a dopey prick.

As for paper cuts I have had over 27 stitches in my right hand alone and removed most ... lost count on the left hand.

Wheres my dinner I am hungry.

It's amazing what friction can do :p. it will even get through stitches lol.

Parksy
18th June 2014, 06:59 PM
Bahahahahaha. You're a funny man jono!

growler2058
18th June 2014, 07:01 PM
just been looking at Toyota diesels on ebay.... bwa ha ha ha

D!cKH3aD!!!!!!

Alitis007
18th June 2014, 07:03 PM
D!cKH3aD!!!!!!

Leave the kid alone, he's probably sitting at the dinner table now with a pea stuck up his nose.....

Bloodyaussie
18th June 2014, 07:21 PM
D!cKH3aD!!!!!!


Get stuffed mate you have a Toyota in your stable... in this house we have 3 nissans!!!!!!

growler2058
18th June 2014, 07:38 PM
I think weve been here before and you lost

Bloodyaussie
18th June 2014, 07:55 PM
I think weve been here before and you lost

I just plain give in... I am down trodden.

The boss got home after a meeting in the city and is in a crap mood... Prado here we come !!!!!

I will be in the Growler camp then!!!

Bloodyaussie
19th June 2014, 09:22 AM
I just went to take Erica to school and on the way the car started to run like shit... was not running on all cylinders.

Then it just started to run fine but as I returned to my house it started playing up again and now is staying like that.... smoke is pissing out the back and stinks of petrol.

When is this all going to end???

Sir Roofy
19th June 2014, 09:26 AM
i just went to take erica to school and on the way the car started to run like shit... Was not running on all cylinders.

Then it just started to run fine but as i returned to my house it started playing up again and now is staying like that.... Smoke is pissing out the back and stinks of petrol.

When is this all going to end???

in its finale death rattle sorry jono cant help with petrol

Bloodyaussie
19th June 2014, 09:34 AM
Just checked and there is nothing left of my rotor button... it has disintegrated.

Funny as I was getting a mate to order some parts for me but have to come from overseas.... shit hey.


Edit: it had not shit itself but had chunks coming off it and did not look healthy but this was not the problem, changed to a spare I had....

happygu
19th June 2014, 09:42 AM
Just checked and there is nothing left of my rotor button... it has disinterested.

Funny as I was getting a mate to order some parts for me but have to come from overseas.... shit hey.



Might be an easy fix then ...... :)

Sir Roofy
19th June 2014, 09:50 AM
just checked and there is nothing left of my rotor button... It has disinterested.

Funny as i was getting a mate to order some parts for me but have to come from overseas.... Shit hey.

so the button came of the sharft after it broke the key

Bloodyaussie
19th June 2014, 12:32 PM
Well it turns out that it was the injectors. .

Number One was pissing fuel out of it and I had of my old ones kicking about so fitted one and car is running fine.

Next couple of days will tell??

rusty_nail
19th June 2014, 12:43 PM
Well it turns out that it was the injectors. .

Number One was pissing fuel out of it and I had of my old ones kicking about so fitted one and car is running fine.

Next couple of days will tell??

that sounds hopeful mate! Ill have my fingers crossed that will fix all your woes!

Parksy
19th June 2014, 01:23 PM
Fingers crossed also. Maybe this explains why your rail pressure is only 36psi?

Bloodyaussie
19th June 2014, 01:36 PM
I have just put in an order for brand new injectors... hope to get them soon.

The injector was spraying into No1 cylinder so hard George could hear it over the phone.

As soon as I pulled the plug out you could hear it... Idle has steadied to.

When they are all fitted then I can start the next lot of fuel tests.... ha ha he he ho......err... dribble blop !!!!!!

krbrooking
19th June 2014, 01:39 PM
Sounds good man hopefully this will end the fuel probs.

Alitis007
19th June 2014, 01:49 PM
And then we turbo !!!

Parksy
19th June 2014, 02:53 PM
Where did you order the injectors from BA?

Bloodyaussie
19th June 2014, 03:19 PM
And then we turbo !!!

Just let me get to a point where I am happy and dont have to constantly work on the bloody thing before I even think about other mods (they are always on my mind).

Bloodyaussie
19th June 2014, 06:33 PM
So Mags got home from work and I told her what happened this morning and she had that look on her face..... I cant blame her.

She has given me an ultimatum and that is if the injectors dont sort out my problems then she wants me to get rid of the GQ... ?????

Parksy
19th June 2014, 07:23 PM
Don't listen to her. It will destroy your life and you will enter a dark void that can never be exited.

rusty_nail
19th June 2014, 09:29 PM
So Mags got home from work and I told her what happened this morning and she had that look on her face..... I cant blame her.

She has given me an ultimatum and that is if the injectors dont sort out my problems then she wants me to get rid of the GQ... ?????

To be honest mate you can't really blame her. Are you in any position to get something newer? It's exactly what Tegan said to me (and the voice in the back of my mind). I mean at the end of the day cars are a hole in the ground no matter how you look at them you could get a pretty nice GU I - III for not much more than the price you could probably get rid of the GQ for...

Drewboyaus
19th June 2014, 11:23 PM
Thing is though Nic, he could be buying a heap more trouble with a GU series 1-3. That's the sweet spot for grenades......
Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

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rusty_nail
20th June 2014, 06:52 AM
Thing is though Nic, he could be buying a heap more trouble with a GU series 1-3. That's the sweet spot for grenades......
Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

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I thought it was just guIII that was the terrible model? He could always be like George and get a petrol one, but I think that defeats the purpose of upgrading

nissannewby
20th June 2014, 07:23 AM
He could get a very nice GU IV onwards 4.8 which will have more power and more economical than his current 4.2. Not to mention a much nicer interior and they are reasonably priced

Alitis007
20th June 2014, 03:53 PM
I thought it was just guIII that was the terrible model? He could always be like George and get a petrol one, but I think that defeats the purpose of upgrading

I get roughly 700km to 120ltrs Nic, but Jonathan doesn't like me telling him :D



He could get a very nice GU IV onwards 4.8 which will have more power and more economical than his current 4.2. Not to mention a much nicer interior and they are reasonably priced
And they also love a big huffa bolted to the side of them with those DOHC's

nissannewby
20th June 2014, 04:29 PM
I get roughly 700km to 120ltrs Nic, but Jonathan doesn't like me telling him :D



And they also love a big huffa bolted to the side of them with those DOHC's

Yes ever more so than a 4.2 or 4.5. Performance parts are worth peanuts too due to their popularity in UAE.

Bloodyaussie
20th June 2014, 04:37 PM
I have been on the phone getting prices on TD motors....

Watch this space!!

rusty_nail
20th June 2014, 05:02 PM
woohoo! good luck buddy!!!

Alitis007
20th June 2014, 06:01 PM
Yes ever more so than a 4.2 or 4.5. Performance parts are worth peanuts too due to their popularity in UAE.

We could have our very own Arab sand drag king, except he's skippy lol!!


I have been on the phone getting prices on TD motors.... Watch this space!!
Bugger those boat anchors, might aswell drop in in a ls or the stroker Billy is building, i won't tell him if you don't :D

nissannewby
20th June 2014, 06:27 PM
I have been on the phone getting prices on TD motors....

Watch this space!!

As much as I'm a fan of a td what your gonna spend on converting yours you could possibly buy a nice td GQ wagon and just put all your gear on it then sell your wagon to make some of the purchase price back. I really think this would be the most economical way to go.

I will reiterate something I have said to you before these are just suggestions at the end of the day it's your decision and we will still give you advice either way.

Bloodyaussie
22nd June 2014, 09:40 PM
A little update on how the car is running after swapping out the injector, the figures are coming back to where they were before and it is headed at this stage to about 400km to a tank... I will have an answer on that later this week.

I should receive my brand new injectors soon and then we will see if there is much in it.

Once the injectors are in I will run it on the dyno again.

Bloodyaussie
25th June 2014, 05:57 PM
Ok Injectors have not arrived but I have been keeping tabs on how the economy is going since swapping out the stuffed injector with a 2nd hand one I had sitting here..

I filled up with Shell 95 octane and have done a mix of winding country roads and town driving with today being the only day I had the gardening trailer on and I started to have the light come on about 20km ago (fade on then off again) and have not run out yet and have done 383km..

George keeps telling me to run higher octane but I am not sure its worth it with these engines?

How many ltr's per 100km is that???

Hopefully the injectors will turn up soon and we can run a proper test..

Mags has given me the green light with the sale of my trailer and ride on mower to buy a td42 for the conversion.

93patrol
25th June 2014, 06:25 PM
Geez mate might be easier to whack a carby on it until you get the conversion underway. ;)

Bloodyaussie
25th June 2014, 06:30 PM
Geez mate might be easier to whack a carby on it until you get the conversion underway. ;)

Ha ha ha... yeah pretty shit hey !!!!

nissannewby
25th June 2014, 07:09 PM
Ok Injectors have not arrived but I have been keeping tabs on how the economy is going since swapping out the stuffed injector with a 2nd hand one I had sitting here..

I filled up with Shell 95 octane and have done a mix of winding country roads and town driving with today being the only day I had the gardening trailer on and I started to have the light come on about 20km ago (fade on then off again) and have not run out yet and have done 383km..

George keeps telling me to run higher octane but I am not sure its worth it with these engines?

How many ltr's per 100km is that???

Hopefully the injectors will turn up soon and we can run a proper test..

Mags has given me the green light with the sale of my trailer and ride on mower to buy a td42 for the conversion.

Won't know the economy until you fill it's an easy equation. Divide the amount of litres you put in by the amount of mk you have driven then multiply by 100