Yeah once the intercooler, 4" lift and 305/70's come I think I'll be bought back to earth with my fuel readings haha.
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Yeah once the intercooler, 4" lift and 305/70's come I think I'll be bought back to earth with my fuel readings haha.
I will be giving this a go this week. Will be monitoring results and advise.
I used to use auto Trans fluid 1L each tank when the low sulphur fuel came out but now I have a late model patrol I don’t bother
1. Its common rail and high pressure
2. The engine was made to run the low sulphur fuel.
3. I was only using it to swell the seals in the old mechanical pump to stop leaks
I’ve also started newly rebuilt diesel engines on straight auto Tran’s fluid they run very well on the stuff and not a puff of smoke.
Any more resaults from this?
Interested to see other peoples figures
Ive been using castrol active 2T now for about 2 months. Not sure on fuel economy because I don't really measure it as I'm lazy. But what I have noticed is when I start it in morning for work. It doesn't vibrate as much. Sounds more like a normal engine then an old tractor. Also found the power curve seems smoother. I was a sceptic at first but would recommend it now. I'm in a 1999 2.8 GU
Going to give it a crack next time i fill up. I have noticed that for some reason when i add injector cleaner to my fuel i get over 100 km extra out of my 2 tanks on the td42..... same with my old mans toyota... cant work out why haha
It wont hurt the 4.2 or the 2.8, ratio is 200 to 1, expect a quieter engine and a slight improvement in fuel economy.Quote:
Originally Posted by starck
Block the EGR, Remove butterfly from intercooler if you have one, fit a catch can and drive it like you stole it!!
Cheers, the ferret.
Well I am won over on this for the 4.2, I cannot believe how much quieter the motor is and only after 80 Klm's from when I put the castrol 2t in the tank. Don't know if fuel consumption will improve but just the quietness is worth it, will see if economy improves!
I tried this over a 6 month period about 3 years ago. There was no change what so ever to noise,power or fuel economy. I think you would be better off, & cheaper to just use chemtech every now & then, like I do. Maybe it is the quality of fuel (brand) that some people use & may be the 2T helps with lower quality fuels. I only run BP so maybe why It didn't work for me. Can't help think it's just the placebo effect taking place.
Well as I said the engine is definitely quieter but will reserve my opinion on the fuel consumption, I assume the quieter engine would be the mechanical noise from the fuel pump being reduced!
Just to reignite this age old debate, 2t Self mix according to the MSDS is a mineral based additive. I have extracted a little info from that document. im about to put it in my GUIII 3.0l DI.
Material Safety Data Sheet
1 .
Identification of the material and supplier
Castrol 2T Selfmix
Product name
462220
SDS no.
Product use
Lubricant for two-stroke engines.
For specific application advice see appropriate Technical Data Sheet or consult our company
representative.
BP Australia Pty Ltd (ABN 53 004 085 616)
717 Bourke Street
Docklands VIC 3008
Australia
Tel: +61 (03) 9268 4111
Fax: +61 (03) 9268 3321
Supplier
+61 2801 44558 (or 1800 14 14 74 within Australia)
EMERGENCY TELEPHONE
NUMBER
Product code
462220-AU07
Hazards identification
2 .
NON-HAZARDOUS SUBSTANCE. NON-DANGEROUS GOODS.
Statement of
hazardous/dangerous nature
Composition/information on ingredients
3 .
Highly refined base oil (IP 346 DMSO extract < 3%). Proprietary performance additives.
This product does not contain any hazardous ingredients at or above regulated thresholds
anyone have a picture of the bottle. or do I just ask for 2T additive
Castrol do a 2T In a white 1ltr bottle, square with castrol green label.
Used this stuff with Rc planes.
Imo the little which is being added (20mL/ tank) would be doing fark all..
I tried black diesel a while back. I started with a 1/10 ratio, and apart from being very messy and a little more smoke when I hit 50/50, it made everything as quite as a mouse.
So imho to see the benefits of this added lubrication I think quantities need to be of around the 1\10 ratio. But then it becomes to bloody expensive
I take it you use this in the fuel as an additive
How would TCW-3 go ie outboard 2 stroke oil. Its the cheap mineral stuff, works fine in the boat motors so as an additive in a 4.2 T could there be any issues?
I personally don't, fuels these days are made to get max bang for buck and have lube additives already in them..Quote:
Originally Posted by threedogs
Not sure mate. Jump on Google and look for a tcw3 msds. Have a read threw it to see if it has any nasty properties, check the area under Fire. Properties do change once change from solid to gas..Quote:
Originally Posted by Chimo
Before i saw the light and bought a Patrol, i drove a Landrover Defender 300 Tdi. The poms have been doing this for years. My Defender has done 360,000 kms of which half of this i have used 2 stroke oil in the diesel. The motor runs brilliant.
Uses no oil.
I have also heard, but not tried, filtering your old sump oil and using it instead of 2 stroke.
Search landyzone.uk there is heaps of information on the subject.
Black dieselQuote:
Originally Posted by gramgramfirey
I tried yesterday. Mannol 2t Universal.
Didn't see anything unusual yet. May be more than 1 to 200?
Brother's Pajero became work a little bit smoother.
Hi,
I also use 2T oil in the tank 250ml for 95l I found that the engine is less noisy and there is no more moke, my oil is Racing 2T and it's a full syntetic one. will tell you more about fuel economy later, but I don't thik it's the miracule priduct for fuel economy.
Best regards
Petit caillou.
did it in my freelander took 2 to 3 tanks and the motor runs quieter helped performance and economy a little to still unsure about the cost of 2 stroke and savings of fuel but having a quieter engine helps
am trying my patrol soon doing some lper km first
beed doing this in my freelander mk 1 the bmw motor took 3 to 4 tanks and runs like a dream ever since a lot quieter started this in my gu 3ltr and starting to hear the difference a lot quieter when warm
Ok seeing this has been dug up I'll start putting in Castrol Active 2t from tomorrow.
I use penrite 5/40 so noisy when cold, lets see what happens
Will be interested in your finding TD - I just finished a tank with added injector cleaner in it and found the economy improved quite a bit.
My 99 GU 4.2 is good n rattly so will definitely investigate this
i use it in mine and find its quieter but no improvement in either fuel or performance but i use it as if its quieter im happy with that and TD i also use penrite. Outboard 2 stroke is no good from what i read it has to be 2t,
Will watch results as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by SonOf
I started using this last week and can say it's a little quiter more when cold. Fuel economy seems better i recon 100km more out of main tank, using 200:1 but i also cleaned my MAF sensor at the same time which was quite dirty so this is probably helping aswell. After reading this im not sure whether to use it in my 08 CRD though, Thoughts?
I've heard different reports On crd's.
Something along the lines of an inbuilt water sensors On the Fuel system doesn't like it??
Now I have no idea of ratios used when issues happen..
The question which turned me off was,
If this additive giving me the efficiency to outweigh the extra cost into each tank.
For me it wasn't..
I wasn't really to concerned on fuel savings although it would be a bonus but more for the lubrication benefits which if it does would definitley outweigh the extra cost.
In saying that i think im going to stop using it until i can get more information about using it with the crd's
How do you guys reckon this would go in the Chevs?
What i've read Highlander and it was 64 pages long lol, all diesels would benefit from the extra lubrication due to our poor quality diesel but i'm a little concerned about using it common rail diesels as they're apparently designed to withstand our diesel.
If you have a spare few days give this article a read it's quite interesting.
http://www.4wdaction.com.au/forum/vi...eac07dd42a4fd6
update went to Super cheap and brought a bottle of Castrol Active 2T ABOUT $13.
tipped abit in so will see how it goes over the next few tank loads
Three dogs... Where have you been on this one.... I started using this about 6 months ago.... Fuel usuage is the same... but engine much quieter... Loving it.... I do 200mls to 35 litres.... (Second tank)
I read it but not keen on additives in in engines then realised it it was a fuel additive, I use Wynnes injector cleaner and happy with that.
cant see how it would improve my fuel figures, but any extra lubrication must be a good thing
Cheers Dave, The impression I was getting from the thread was that the CRD's were geared up for the diesel but that the older engines weren't, which is why i thought that my Chev might benefit from it.... Spoke to our site mechanic and he said that it would improve the noises but couldn't see how it would improve performance. I will do it purely out of interest me thinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_H
might be a placebo effect, as I struggle to find how it could possible improve economy.
Theres some good info linked around from those links.
I will post this here to help people to the info quicker.
http://www.ebay.com.au/gds/Opti-Lube...7593100/g.html
From the reading I done so far it seems like it keeps a bunch of things cleaner than with out.
Going to give it a go on my CRD.
I'm no mechanic but wouldn't it increase your performance a little if your engine parts are lubricated better and the internals were not needing to be pushed as hard which inturn the accelerator is not being pushed down as hard(friction) ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Highlander
Well I have trialled this at a mixture of 200 to 1 ratio with shell advance 2T probably over the last 18 months . Next to no difference in fuel economy but it starts easier in the colder winter months and idle rattle is reduced noticeably .One drawback for me is the exhaust odour is far stronger than without it , stopped using it in November for this reason but come winter I will be back on it for sure . Its a good thing me thinks .
According to him, it will quieten noisy rattles, having supplied more lubrication to worn parts, hence no real performance improvement... Having said that, it should follow that it should also extend the life of, however slightly, the affected parts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_H