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Originally Posted by jay see

This looks good. It's a MIG Gas/Gasless and MMA/Stick electrode as well as DC TIG welder.

Bunnings have it for $500I see yours is a130 amp. Do you trip your power when using it. Talking to a few welders at work they all said go at least 170 amp.

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The bossweld MST185 at bunnings costs 500. It is a very good welder. I see industrial suppliers selling these for more dollars..You will need to pay an extra $160 for a tig torch. And $299 for ownership of a d size argon bottle with $99 Swaps when empty. And 20 bucks for a better arc handle. I bought the tig torch. This unit is lift tig which is easy to use but not as good as hf which you will find on higher end tigs. What impressed me about the tig on this unit is that the low end of the amp scale is accurate. You can weld really thin shyt with this. Then I got the TS200 ac dc at a good price with no torch or any accessories... The tig control plug is different. I rang the supplier Dynaweld fully expecting them to tell me to fark off and buy another tig torch, but instead they talked me thru the process and sent me wiring diagrams !
Awesome service.

Take eveyones advice and dont use gasless wire. It is horrible messy crep. My roll went in the bin after using it for 30 seconds.

Honestly I don't think I ever need a tig. I've gone this long without a welder at all. I can always get stuff welded at work if need be. I can pretty much get steel from work cut and bent to whatever size I need, just want something to play around with at home.

Point taken no gasless..

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Originally Posted by Mickhead

The MST185 is excellent too Attachment 81669Attachment 81669

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Wow! You cat looks exactly like my boy.

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A beautiful 24/7 indoor boy too Mr Mark, 8:00pm curfews are keeping us humans in check and dropping casualties finally!



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Originally Posted by Mickhead

The bossweld MST185 at bunnings costs 500. It is a very good welder. I see industrial suppliers selling these for more dollars..You will need to pay an extra $160 for a tig torch. And $299 for ownership of a d size argon bottle with $99 Swaps when empty. And 20 bucks for a better arc handle. I bought the tig torch. This unit is lift tig which is easy to use but not as good as hf which you will find on higher end tigs. What impressed me about the tig on this unit is that the low end of the amp scale is accurate. You can weld really thin shyt with this. Then I got the TS200 ac dc at a good price with no torch or any accessories... The tig control plug is different. I rang the supplier Dynaweld fully expecting them to tell me to fark off and buy another tig torch, but instead they talked me thru the process and sent me wiring diagrams !
Awesome service.

Take eveyones advice and dont use gasless wire. It is horrible messy crep. My roll went in the bin after using it for 30 seconds.

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What are your thoughts on the Rossi brand - this one in particular? garage use only. I have the 130amp mig at the moment , again a Rossi, but even on gas and full power it does not lay a good bead - struggles to get the metal down and its a generally horrible looking result - i am resigned to park it under the bench.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ROSSI-22...53.m1438.l2649

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Originally Posted by MB

A beautiful 24/7 indoor boy too Mr Mark, 8:00pm curfews are keeping us humans in check and dropping casualties finally!



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Yeah 24/7 indoor for sure. That goes for him and his brother.
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Originally Posted by PeeBee

What are your thoughts on the Rossi brand - this one in particular? garage use only. I have the 130amp mig at the moment , again a Rossi, but even on gas and full power it does not lay a good bead - struggles to get the metal down and its a generally horrible looking result - i am resigned to park it under the bench.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ROSSI-22...53.m1438.l2649

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Rossi is a Brazilian brand.they are very light, but well built. The crescent stainless buttplate can be nasty with heavy loads. Awesome, 5 stars :)Attachment 81700

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Originally Posted by Mickhead

Rossi is a Brazilian brand.they are very light, but well built. The crescent stainless buttplate can be nasty with heavy loads. Awesome, 5 stars :)

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Thanks but no idea what this means "The crescent stainless buttplate can be nasty with heavy loads. Awesome, 5 stars ??????

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Originally Posted by PeeBee

What are your thoughts on the Rossi brand - this one in particular? garage use only. I have the 130amp mig at the moment , again a Rossi, but even on gas and full power it does not lay a good bead - struggles to get the metal down and its a generally horrible looking result - i am resigned to park it under the bench.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ROSSI-22...53.m1438.l2649

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Oops wrong Rossi :)

Seriously tho.. had a Rossi ebay inverter mig for a short time, sold it quickly due to horrid feed and lack of support. Rossi is an ebay brand that sounds nice.. like detroit and chicago trying to be milwaukee..

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Originally Posted by mudski

Wow! You cat looks exactly like my boy.

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Cats are awesome under rated creatures :) Mine rules the house and the dogs and the man cave :)

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Originally Posted by Mickhead

Seriously tho.. had a Rossi ebay inverter mig for a short time, sold it quickly due to horrid feed and lack of support. Rossi is an ebay brand that sounds nice.. like detroit and chicago trying to be milwaukee..

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OK, thanks for clearing that up - thought @MB had slipped into the thread! I will have a look at the Bunnings model instead.

Well after some googling and taking in the information from you guys and some of the guys at work. I'm pretty sure that I'm going to go with a 135 amp machine.
Reason for this is the 2 people that have these are happy with them mudski (cigweld) and a guy from work(Michigan). Yes a bigger machine probably would be better, but I need to look at the cost as well, anyway if I need to do big long welds and I can't do them at home, I can always get it done at work.

Thanks guys.

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Originally Posted by jay see

Well after some googling and taking in the information from you guys and some of the guys at work. I'm pretty sure that I'm going to go with a 135 amp machine.
Reason for this is the 2 people that have these are happy with them mudski (cigweld) and a guy from work(Michigan). Yes a bigger machine probably would be better, but I need to look at the cost as well, anyway if I need to do big long welds and I can't do them at home, I can always get it done at work.

Thanks guys.

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Hi amte, i have a 140 too. if i was buying again i would go at least a 170 or 200 just to future proof me.

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Originally Posted by jay see

Well after some googling and taking in the information from you guys and some of the guys at work. I'm pretty sure that I'm going to go with a 135 amp machine.
Reason for this is the 2 people that have these are happy with them mudski (cigweld) and a guy from work(Michigan). Yes a bigger machine probably would be better, but I need to look at the cost as well, anyway if I need to do big long welds and I can't do them at home, I can always get it done at work.

Thanks guys.

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Happy for you to come over, post COVID, and have a play around with my weld if you want. The thing I like about mine it’s not confusing with it’s selections. Wire speed and output voltage selections. Does gaslless too but I have a Cigweld arc welder for that if I need. Bought the trolley on eBay for nix too. Like I said, for what I do and have done. 4wd stuff. It’s been flawless.
Yeah a tig would be great. But I’d very rarely use that I reckon.


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Originally Posted by mudski

Happy for you to come over, post COVID, and have a play around with my weld if you want. The thing I like about mine it’s not confusing with it’s selections. Wire speed and output voltage selections. Does gaslless too but I have a Cigweld arc welder for that if I need. Bought the trolley on eBay for nix too. Like I said, for what I do and have done. 4wd stuff. It’s been flawless.
Yeah a tig would be great. But I’d very rarely use that I reckon.


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Thanks for the offer Mark, but I want one during this lock down period, probably get one during the week. I don't see the need for a bigger amp machine as long as these do the job and that's all I'm after. As stated earlier if it's a big long heavy weld I can get it done at work and even better by professional welder.

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Originally Posted by jay see

Thanks for the offer Mark, but I want one during this lock down period, probably get one during the week. I don't see the need for a bigger amp machine as long as these do the job and that's all I'm after. As stated earlier if it's a big long heavy weld I can get it done at work and even better by professional welder.

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Yeah we’ll don’t spend on what you don’t need then. Look on my build thread on the bar work I have done. That’s pretty much the heaviest I will ever do, probably the same for you I will guess, and this welder did it with ease.


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By no means a professional welder myself, agricultural at best Jaysee mate. Can offer only some basic advice until you hone your skills on any given machine, they are all different obviously but same same end game bonding metals at the end of the day?
A good mask will help you focus on the material and what your heat/speed is doing left and right and downwards etc...
There is no point making a perfect looking motion bead atop if the material below is not becoming one (Zen Like :-)




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Originally Posted by MB

There is no point making a perfect looking motion bead atop if the material below is not becoming one (Zen Like :-)




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You'll be surprised how many times I see this at work when they are giving a new welder a test run.

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That’s probably genuine I’m thinking though John Mate! Are they just getting a feel of the new tool before getting stuck into hot work.
Not that I would trust myself to weld on say Vic/Roads approved engine mounts for serious scrutiny but I do try where possible to test my heat & speeds on similar sized plates prior to bastardisation of a paddock implement or two :-)


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They give them a few runs if they can't set the machine to produce a good weld in all aspects they move them on.
Our work is ADR approved so they're gotta know what they're doing.

I'll get some offcuts in different thickness to play around with at home before I attempt anything that requires strength.

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Whoops, my bad sorry mate, you meant the man, not the machine :-)


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With the recent discussion on welders, I couldn't resist posting this here. I know it's not the right place, but . . . .:Attachment 81741

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With the recent discussion on welders, I couldn't resist posting this here. I know it's not the right place, but . . . .:Attachment 81741

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Unless thats a really bad pic I would be offering an extra 15 bucks per hour to get rid of the undercut and the lack of penetration in weld number 2 :) :)

[QUOTE=jay see;807454]Well after some googling and taking in the information from you guys and some of the guys at work. I'm pretty sure that I'm going to go with a 135 amp machine.
Reason for this is the 2 people that have these are happy with them mudski (cigweld) and a guy from work(Michigan). Yes a bigger machine probably would be better, but I need to look at the cost as well, anyway if I need to do big long welds and I can't do them at home, I can always get it done at work.

I went down the cheaper path too first time with the rossi welder. A 130 amp Mig only welder will do anything that needs welding on the pooey. But if it costs 300 bucks to buy, and you have the option of spending another 200 to 300 on a Bossweld / unimig / boc ( cigweld ) unit think hard because if you need the extra power or the ability to tig you will be unhappy. Been there, done that. And a lot of the cheapys have a non removable torch. Avoid this if you can!

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Well after some googling and taking in the information from you guys and some of the guys at work. I'm pretty sure that I'm going to go with a 135 amp machine.
Reason for this is the 2 people that have these are happy with them mudski (cigweld) and a guy from work(Michigan). Yes a bigger machine probably would be better, but I need to look at the cost as well, anyway if I need to do big long welds and I can't do them at home, I can always get it done at work.

I went down the cheaper path too first time with the rossi welder. A 130 amp Mig only welder will do anything that needs welding on the pooey. But if it costs 300 bucks to buy, and you have the option of spending another 200 to 300 on a Bossweld / unimig / boc ( cigweld ) unit think hard because if you need the extra power or the ability to tig you will be unhappy. Been there, done that. And a lot of the cheapys have a non removable torch. Avoid this if you can!

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Yeah, too late.

I probably should've posted it here, but check out the happy thread.

I mentioned earlier somewhere that if I need to do bigger longer welds and this machine can't handle it, I can get it done at work by a professional welder and I don't see any need for a tig, well but for me anyway.

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Originally Posted by Mickhead

Yeah, too late.

I probably should've posted it here, but check out the happy thread.

I mentioned earlier somewhere that if I need to do bigger longer welds and this machine can't handle it, I can get it done at work by a professional welder and I don't see any need for a tig, well but for me anyway.

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Looks like it does the job, bit messy with the gasless, Mate, you have way more patience than me .. nice work :) my gasless trial run lasted 30 seconds!

Bet you buy another welder within a year...

Love my tig :) :)

cannot believe what i have seen this arvo. milwaukee have just taken cordless tools to the next level, like seriously...

https://www.totaltools.com.au/152457...30dbf2598207a1

The whole range of mx fuel tools are absolutely insane.

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The latest additions.

Battery was a $85 market place buy.http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...2020/09/81.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...2020/09/82.jpg

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Originally Posted by PeeBee

What are your thoughts on the Rossi brand - this one in particular? garage use only. I have the 130amp mig at the moment , again a Rossi, but even on gas and full power it does not lay a good bead - struggles to get the metal down and its a generally horrible looking result - i am resigned to park it under the bench.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ROSSI-22...53.m1438.l2649

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Update - I finally got to the bottom of my Rossi 130amp MIG and its weld issues. After many emails back and forth the supplier finally admitted the welder was not as advertised however its my responsibility to see thru the information and do my own research - Yep, what a process. the welder is specifically sold for metal, mild steel, stainless, gas or gasless. Problem is the description is basically a cut and paste from other welders as the distributor is simply a wholesaler, which explains why it took so long to get to the bottom of the issue.
To weld MS and SS with a MIG you need a DC welder. This unit is AC. AC is good only for Aluminum, gas or gasless. The distributor has wiped his hands of the issue, its mine now. The welder was purchased off EBAY from EDISONS. Don't trust this seller. Won't take it back, won't refund the cost and won't even entertain a return and upgrade to a welder that actually will do what the advert says. Very pissed off, but there is nowhere to go to appeal.

At least it confirms it wasn't operator error - this time!!

@PeeBee regarding the welder, not sure but if you paid via PayPal you may be able to escalate. I think you have 180 days.

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Update - I finally got to the bottom of my Rossi 130amp MIG and its weld issues. After many emails back and forth the supplier finally admitted the welder was not as advertised however its my responsibility to see thru the information and do my own research - Yep, what a process. the welder is specifically sold for metal, mild steel, stainless, gas or gasless. Problem is the description is basically a cut and paste from other welders as the distributor is simply a wholesaler, which explains why it took so long to get to the bottom of the issue.
To weld MS and SS with a MIG you need a DC welder. This unit is AC. AC is good only for Aluminum, gas or gasless. The distributor has wiped his hands of the issue, its mine now. The welder was purchased off EBAY from EDISONS. Don't trust this seller. Won't take it back, won't refund the cost and won't even entertain a return and upgrade to a welder that actually will do what the advert says. Very pissed off, but there is nowhere to go to appeal.

At least it confirms it wasn't operator error - this time!!

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Escalate it with ebay, if no luck there then escalate with PayPal.
EBay generally react in a couple of days, PayPal take a couple of months.

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Escalate it with ebay, if no luck there then escalate with PayPal.
EBay generally react in a couple of days, PayPal take a couple of months.

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That's right, but I have never had a case not go my way. If the seller refuses to respond to your PayPal case, eventually PayPal will just automatically return the money to you.

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That's right, but I have never had a case not go my way. If the seller refuses to respond to your PayPal case, eventually PayPal will just automatically return the money to you.

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Thanks guys, I am dead in the water. Unfortunately, working a FIFO roster, I never even opened thebox for 12 months and it was purchased in Nov 2018. Its been used for exactly 1.5 kg of gas and 10ft of gasless wire. I am resigned to either sticking it back under the bench or put it om Gumtree. I guess I could have a crack at aluminium welding - that would be a new one for me! Still disappointing though. Looking at a CIG 200amp unit now

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Update - I finally got to the bottom of my Rossi 130amp MIG and its weld issues. After many emails back and forth the supplier finally admitted the welder was not as advertised however its my responsibility to see thru the information and do my own research - Yep, what a process. the welder is specifically sold for metal, mild steel, stainless, gas or gasless. Problem is the description is basically a cut and paste from other welders as the distributor is simply a wholesaler, which explains why it took so long to get to the bottom of the issue.
To weld MS and SS with a MIG you need a DC welder. This unit is AC. AC is good only for Aluminum, gas or gasless. The distributor has wiped his hands of the issue, its mine now. The welder was purchased off EBAY from EDISONS. Don't trust this seller. Won't take it back, won't refund the cost and won't even entertain a return and upgrade to a welder that actually will do what the advert says. Very pissed off, but there is nowhere to go to appeal.

At least it confirms it wasn't operator error - this time!!

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Ho Lee Fuk... the seller has no idea what he is selling. Bet he has gimp masks, herbal tea strainers, 10000000000000 lumen light bars,
and butt plugs for sale in his store too...if your link is accurate what you have there is a cheap inverter welder. It is DC. So it should weld ferrous metal and staino.
What exactly is the issue? My short lived rossi had shitful wire feed issues. It welded like a karrnt. Buy the Bossweld mst180 from bunnings for 500, if it dont work bring it back for a refund and feel free to abuse the fuk out of me.

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Ho Lee Fuk... the seller has no idea what he is selling. Bet he has gimp masks, herbal tea strainers, 10000000000000 lumen light bars,
and butt plugs for sale in his store too...if your link is accurate what you have there is a cheap inverter welder. It is DC. So it should weld ferrous metal and staino.
What exactly is the issue? My short lived rossi had shitful wire feed issues. It welded like a karrnt. Buy the Bossweld mst180 from bunnings for 500, if it dont work bring it back for a refund and feel free to abuse the fuk out of me.

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Yeah disappointing and they are clueless. Its definitely AC. I was having trouble with the gasless wire, so decided to try with gas. Read 'somewhere in their paperwork the polarity need to be changed from DCEN to DCEP so after a number of messages to them finally goy a procedure, did the change, which is a swap around of two cables, but takes 45 minutes to by the time you get covers on and off, work out the orientation etc - did not make a cracker of a difference. I went back to them for help and they confirmed the machine is supplied set up for gas, change ir back, still no difference, went back again, no, it comes set up for gasless, changed it back, no difference, then after final contact, told i had bought an AC welder and it wont weld mild steel or stainless, only aluminum. Changing the cables wont make a difference on AC but will on DC - yeah i understand that!!! The advert says mild and stainless, nothing about aluminum. Its a cheapie I know, but I only had a job of maybe 5ft of weld to do and am generally competent enough on my two arc welders. Just pissed at the misleading advertising then the FU its your.

I will have a look at the Bunnings unit as you suggest, just want something that i can pick up after an extended break from it and not have to dive into a manual of find out some fine print issue i 'should' have known. Anyway, suggest people stay away from edison's unless they are buying something like a hammer or a screwdriver - anything more technical and they are lost.

Just asked my professional welder neighbour, he says it's definitely a DC welder but will not weld ally.

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Just asked my professional welder neighbour, he says it's definitely a DC welder but will not weld ally.

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Nic, here is the link , scroll down to the additional info section, states it welds all metals including copper??? but nothing about aluminum and clearly states its an AC welder, down the bottom on LH side. Right now I am rapidly losing interest in it. You couldn't weld two jam donuts together with it, its rubbish.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/142478732660

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Don’t connect your 12AH High Output Chainsaw batteries onto your old brushed faithful 18v old school grinders and the like, they don’t appear to appreciate it they’re smelling me :-)


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Nic, here is the link , scroll down to the additional info section, states it welds all metals including copper??? but nothing about aluminum and clearly states its an AC welder, down the bottom on LH side. Right now I am rapidly losing interest in it. You couldn't weld two jam donuts together with it, its rubbish.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/142478732660

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If it's still advertised incorrectly you could raise it with ACCC as misleading you.