Tools you have bought/want to buy feedback thread

[jay see]

I purchase a little 240v 5t splitter for my open fire in Melb. It did a great job until the day a seal interface burst and that was it - job over, not repairable, went on the nature strip. The unit was great except like everything, once you automate it you never tend to stay withn the duty rating of the machine, hence you split larger logs, drier timber, harder timber, work faster than the duty cycle intended - its a natural human reaction. I basically flogged mine to death. I have thought about buying another one which would be in the realms of a 30 -40 t unit, however have simply managed the wood splitting by sourcing red gum posts from a fencing contractor at $3 a post and I buy 100 at a time, use a good quality docking saw and TC blade and slowly work my way to generate 1ft blocks. 300 blocks easily does us for winter as it ambience only supply - central heating does the lions share.Thanks PeeBee.

You remember what brand?

Probably all out of the same place with different stickers..

Bunnings start at $329. Apparently ALDI were selling one. Anyway thanks for your input, I'll see what's out there in there.

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[Mickhead]

Yeh same thing just different brand
When you have time can you pm me some details on that... model number or model # of battery and charger

My one is a Kobalt which was sold by Masters before the went belly up, trying 2 source more batteries and a charger with no luck, I believe they still sell a Greenworks battery that is identical overseas but can't find anything in Australia :(

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When masters shut down I got the kobalt battery for 40 bucks. It did not fit the victa 80 v system because the guide slots were slightly different. Sold it. Now victa has 82v system which dont fit mine because they have moved the slots. Take your saw to Bunnings and see if the 82v batts fit.

[PeeBee]

Thanks PeeBee.

You remember what brand?

Probably all out of the same place with different stickers..

Bunnings start at $329. Apparently ALDI were selling one. Anyway thanks for your input, I'll see what's out there in there.

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It was from BBT - big boys toys from memory. Would not go that route again as it was suited more for soft timbers than gum and redgum etc. It really was cheapie, $250 probably 10 yrs ago, Probably the same as the aldi unit I reckon. I would go the biggest you can buy if you want electric, which I think is 11 or 15T maybe. Anything bigger, diesel, but starting to make the old firewood pretty expensive!

[rusty_nail]

Thanks PeeBee.

You remember what brand?

Probably all out of the same place with different stickers..

Bunnings start at $329. Apparently ALDI were selling one. Anyway thanks for your input, I'll see what's out there in there.

Sent from my CPH1979 using TapatalkI've seen one at aldi still mate, saw it just the other day.

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[MudRunnerTD]

Looking for a static belt edge sander/drum sander for the workshop...needs to be dust extractor compatible...have a 6inch flexi collection system.
Wonder if there are any brands or sites I should be looking at. Looking at Second hand.
Something a little smaller than what's in the attached pick.
Location Perth WA
Cheers.

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I have this machine in my shed. The Big Boy sander. I used it commercially for 5 years and it ran 6 hours a day I reckon. Great bit of kit. Take care, it will.munch your fingers under the guard and sand off the tips of your fingers before you take a breathe. Lol.

Mine has been in storage for the better part of 15 years but over the last two weeks I have dug it out and look forward to having access to it again.

[jay see]

I've seen one at aldi still mate, saw it just the other day.

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[MB TD42]

I have this machine in my shed. The Big Boy sander. I used it commercially for 5 years and it ran 6 hours a day I reckon. Great bit of kit. Take care, it will.munch your fingers under the guard and sand off the tips of your fingers before you take a breathe. Lol.

Mine has been in storage for the better part of 15 years but over the last two weeks I have dug it out and look forward to having access to it again.Cheers.. I worked as Head machinist for 2 years in a small joinery shop in Perth before it could no longer sustain my budget...They had one of these...It was great for finishing curved door frame heads. I give it a thumbs up yet they cost near 3k second hand...Was looking for something a little smaller but am a bit weary of the 1300buckers from China.

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[Mickhead]

Morning Gents.

I looking at buying a log splitter. It's something that I will not use alot, but will come in handy. What are the 5T ones like?

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Good for splitting the dried redgum logs that come in Bunnings 20 kilo bags to use in a pizza oven. Not much good for anything larger.80942

[PeeBee]

That looks identical to the one I had, but mine was burnt orange - maybe the green ones work better??? Mind you I did flog it to death and well beyond its intended duty I am sure.

[jay see]

I've seen some YouTube videos on the Homelite ones (Bunnings). They seem to handle about of abuse. Same specs as the Ryobi.

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[MB]

Personally prefer homemade splitters, especially this blokes one with a super safe Capstan Winch rope loader, foolproof design!
(Skip to 2:20 and please don’t try this at home :-)

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FWIW: Most of the native gums in our hills won’t even begin to crack (green) without 30T rams minimum and still struggle on the gnarly knotty bits.


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[PeeBee]

Personally prefer homemade splitters, especially this blokes one with a super safe Capstan Winch rope loader, foolproof design!
(Skip to 2:20 and please don’t try this at home :-)

https://youtu.be/3ks_lbtgJSw

FWIW: Most of the native gums in our hills won’t even begin to crack (green) without 30T rams minimum and still struggle on the gnarly knotty bits.


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Loved it, that guy at 2 mins is mental!

[Mickhead]

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Marlin Log Splitter :)

A bit noisy though.

[jay see]

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[mudnut]

Loved it, that guy at 2 mins is mental!

It all good until a piece falls across the table. The blade will want to go somewhere...

[rusty_nail]

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Sent from my CPH1979 using TapatalkRyobi make some decent stuff mate, if your nowlt using them everyday for trade 100% they are an awesome tool. Had a decent company set a few jobs ago, could not fault them except they had slightly less balls to.go the distance. Also, Ryobi are the only brand I believe that make an 18v hot glue gun, much handier than you think, pretty much can fix everything.

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[rusty_nail]

I spent the weekend working on my house, and refitting the back of the nav for work. I'm happy with the end result. Relevance to this section:

Bought a 30m air hose reel from total tools. Had some credits to spend and TT by far had the cheapest 30m hose going. $129, used it all weekend,only fault I can find is it's out then in fully, there is no adjustment if you need a little more but for $30 cheaper than the next best option I'm not complaining!!!

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[MB TD42]

I spent the weekend working on my house, and refitting the back of the nav for work. I'm happy with the end result. Relevance to this section:

Bought a 30m air hose reel from total tools. Had some credits to spend and TT by far had the cheapest 30m hose going. $129, used it all weekend,only fault I can find is it's out then in fully, there is no adjustment if you need a little more but for $30 cheaper than the next best option I'm not complaining!!!

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Sent from my SM-G930F using TapatalkI ran a metal 60m hose real with pressure fitting and pressure rated hose for years...it was set up so I just plug in my trailer and could reach the whole home inside, on top and around the eaves when unsealed. Only cost me $120 to set up with fittings.

I found those retractable units better for in shop application.

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[mudski]

I don't use this often, and I only use one out of the kit but so bloody handy when I do use it. Cheap too! I had to install a new front axle seal over the weekend.
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I also had to replace the hub seal as the bearings got a wash in diff oil. No tool large enough so I made my own. Worked a treat too. Haha!
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Another great tool I have is my wash tub. Stinks, but it gets things nice and clean. Especially after the mess a badly leaking axle seal leaves....

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[rusty_nail]

I ran a metal 60m hose real with pressure fitting and pressure rated hose for years...it was set up so I just plug in my trailer and could reach the whole home inside, on top and around the eaves when unsealed. Only cost me $120 to set up with fittings.

I found those retractable units better for in shop application.

Sent from my SM-G960F using TapatalkI priced those up mate, not sure where you got yours from but a metal manual wind reel with no hose was over $100 (cheapest I found was about 130) and then I would have to add a 30m hose for an additional 70-80$. I know the retracta reel is better for workshops but I'm on an apprentice wage/budget. Yeah I have heaps of expensive tools in my picture but they were purchased when I was doing bulk hours and pulling in much more coin.

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[PeeBee]

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Marlin Log Splitter :)

A bit noisy though.

WOW, what calibre, projectile weight and timber pls?

[MB TD42]

I priced those up mate, not sure where you got yours from but a metal manual wind reel with no hose was over $100 (cheapest I found was about 130) and then I would have to add a 30m hose for an additional 70-80$. I know the retracta reel is better for workshops but I'm on an apprentice wage/budget. Yeah I have heaps of expensive tools in my picture but they were purchased when I was doing bulk hours and pulling in much more coin.

Sent from my SM-G930F using TapatalkYeah...I hear yah...after posting this I realised that its been 18 years since I set it up...lol...time flys...

The fella I worked for back then just had 30m hose made up as extensions off the reel...Might be worth it if you come across some spare coin.

I have gone battery/gas since but still run the air gun on the hard woods and LVLs or when pushing 4inch frame nails...more punch for ya buck...

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[rusty_nail]

Yeah...I hear yah...after posting this I realised that its been 18 years since I set it up...lol...time flys...

The fella I worked for back then just had 30m hose made up as extensions off the reel...Might be worth it if you come across some spare coin.

I have gone battery/gas since but still run the air gun on the hard woods and LVLs or when pushing 4inch frame nails...more punch for ya buck...

Sent from my SM-G960F using TapatalkYeah mate, I have an extensive 18v tool collection, but having recently started a carpentry apprenticeship, I needed a framer. I'm not impressed with the two cordless jobs, they are heavier,, expensive and less punch.

Fwiw, I considered buying by the Meter but that is fairly expensive to, around 2.25$ per Meter, and you will need fittings.

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[MudRunnerTD]

Yeah mate, I have an extensive 18v tool collection, but having recently started a carpentry apprenticeship, I needed a framer. I'm not impressed with the two cordless jobs, they are heavier,, expensive and less punch.

Fwiw, I considered buying by the Meter but that is fairly expensive to, around 2.25$ per Meter, and you will need fittings.

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Did you try a Pasload Gun mate? i am surprised you didnt go that way to be honest. If i was going again it would be Pasload for sure. I highly recommend a swivel filtting for your airline at tool end too for sure mate. Game changer.

[Mickhead]

WOW, what calibre, projectile weight and timber pls?

45 70 hardcast black widow 405 gn with 52 gn ar2208 behind it. No idea of the wood, was a random log about 2 foot x 8 inches laying around near a campfire... :)

[PeeBee]

45 70 hardcast black widow 405 gn with 52 gn ar2208 behind it. No idea of the wood, was a random log about 2 foot x 8 inches laying around near a campfire... :)

Thanks, I have a 45-70 and find the factory 400gn rounds a lot more pleasant to shoot that the 300gn I have installed a mercury recoil tube in the butt of mine and it tames the recoil quite a bit, however saying that I am waiting delivery of a muzzle brake ex the USA. When it gets here is anyone's guess.

[rusty_nail]

Did you try a Pasload Gun mate? i am surprised you didnt go that way to be honest. If i was going again it would be Pasload for sure. I highly recommend a swivel filtting for your airline at tool end too for sure mate. Game changer.Paslode only make an air framer and a gas framer. Not cordless. The gas ones are expensive to run. The air ones were also out of my price bracket. I researched the market and ended up with a DeWalt air framer. It's just a Bostitch framer dressed up as DeWalt. In most reviews I checked it scored the same as the Paslode, the only thing it doesn't have is dry do fire protection which is fine, I just keep an eye on my magazine.

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[MudRunnerTD]

Paslode only make an air framer and a gas framer. Not cordless. The gas ones are expensive to run. The air ones were also out of my price bracket. I researched the market and ended up with a DeWalt air framer. It's just a Bostitch framer dressed up as DeWalt. In most reviews I checked it scored the same as the Paslode, the only thing it doesn't have is dry do fire protection which is fine, I just keep an eye on my magazine.

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Yeah I have a Bostich that I bought in about 1992. It has done a bit of work and has never let me down.

The Gas is nice when your cutting a roof without an air hose but it ain't that bad. You work with what you have hey.

Gas guns didn't not exist when I got mine but like the idea.

When I ran my workshop my.local tool supplier got onto swivel air fitting and they are a game changer. I don't know whether they are common now but they were rare back in the day. I worked in a big cabinet making shop after I closed my shop and the boys there could not believe it when I walked in with swivels on all my tools. They where like WTF!!! Give me a go!!!

If you have not got a swivel you NEED This! LOL. Happy to post a pic if you have not seen one.

[rusty_nail]

Yeah I have a Bostich that I bought in about 1992. It has done a bit of work and has never let me down.

The Gas is nice when your cutting a roof without an air hose but it ain't that bad. You work with what you have hey.

Gas guns didn't not exist when I got mine but like the idea.

When I ran my workshop my.local tool supplier got onto swivel air fitting and they are a game changer. I don't know whether they are common now but they were rare back in the day. I worked in a big cabinet making shop after I closed my shop and the boys there could not believe it when I walked in with swivels on all my tools. They where like WTF!!! Give me a go!!!

If you have not got a swivel you NEED This! LOL. Happy to post a pic if you have not seen one.Believe I know what you're talking about but why not post up for everyone? The boss uses euro plug, it spins very well on the fitting as opposed to nitto but I'll consider grabbing one next time I'm at Bunnings

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[Mickhead]

Thanks, I have a 45-70 and find the factory 400gn rounds a lot more pleasant to shoot that the 300gn I have installed a mercury recoil tube in the butt of mine and it tames the recoil quite a bit, however saying that I am waiting delivery of a muzzle brake ex the USA. When it gets here is anyone's guess.
Ho lee chit what are you firing them out of? my SBL is a gentle slow kicking unit ( unless youre sitting down bench resting :) )

[PeeBee]

Ho lee chit what are you firing them out of? my SBL is a gentle slow kicking unit ( unless youre sitting down bench resting :) )

Its just a Marlin 1895S, but its not a heavy gun, so kicks like a mule,or at least it did until the mercury slug was installed, and I use a slip on limb saver as well. Should be just smooth when the muzzle brake goes on.

[Mickhead]

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Ryobi is good! Just dont buy the hot air blower. Its crep. Dont write off aldi and ozito either :)
Seriously. Some of their stuff is excellent for home use.

[mudnut]

The Ozito tools I have seem good, so far.

[0-TJ-0]

The Ozito tools I have seem good, so far.

I have some ozito stuff, I find it will do the job just not as nice. I have a mitre saw which the deck deg settings aren't quite right and an angle grinder which has always had a nasty vibration.

Both have lasted me for years and have done what I needed (kinda) but if I had the money in retrospect I wouldn't buy them again.

Edit:my father in law has a lot of the cordless stuff and he's a mechanic. He seems to rate it okay.

[Mickhead]

Aldi cordless tools... Wait till theyre in the clearance basket at half price. 4 amp hour batteries with a digital display, 29 bucks. Where the fark do the brand names get off charging 100 bucks for theirs. Clearance prices: Brushless saw $69. Brushless grinder $same. Dual battery compressors $49. Brushless impact $49.. and my favourite cordless slide compound 216 mm was just 99 bucks. If they are shyt, which quite a few of their tools are, bring them back next time you are there, no questions asked!80967

[MudRunnerTD]

Believe I know what you're talking about but why not post up for everyone? The boss uses euro plug, it spins very well on the fitting as opposed to nitto but I'll consider grabbing one next time I'm at Bunnings

Sent from my SM-G930F using TapatalkCheck this out mate. Game changer! Anti fatigue to the Max!!!!


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I have this on every tool and had it on every air tool in my shop. If I was setting up again I would simply fit it to each Air Hose. Assuming you run 1 or 2 hoses only then you only need 1 or 2. Best Shit Ever!!!

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[nissannewby]

How many of your nail guns did you have to sift through to find one with the safety not jammed....😜

[MudRunnerTD]

How many of your nail guns did you have to sift through to find one with the safety not jammed....[emoji12]Bhahahaha. Back in the day working at a bench doing production runs every gun on every bench was jammed for sure.

These days with little use it's not really needed. My bradder still has a jam though.

Here is another option for adapting but more likely to get pinched on site. I made this for flexibility in my shed.

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[dpetersen]

I run all makita battery gear for work, love it, so many different tools in the makita battery range. Am looking at getting a battery rattle gun to make wheel rotating quicker and easier. There’s a few different options though. What would you guys say would be the minimum impact rate/torque required for rotating wheels on the patrol?


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[0-TJ-0]

I have a little 1/4in dewalt impact driver rated at 200 something nm. Not designed for that but I have rattled a wheel nut off before.. It wasn't exactly expedient and I thought it was going to sheer the socket adapter haha. If I was going to buy something for that purpose I'd look for a 1/2in gun.

[jay see]

Came across this. Be better than my current one, even with the long ass cable that I made it's still a pita.

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[MB]

What would you guys say would be the minimum impact rate/torque required for rotating wheels on the patrol?


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Please do keep in mind that most of our Patrol OEM torque specs are circa 130Nm ish for wheel nuts I believe (double check your manual/model variants) to be sure!
No particular favour but I’ve just downgraded my onboard 1,000Nm beast Milwaukee 18v 1/2” (ring drive a must/never pin) to a 600Nm 18v 1/2” ring drive purely for usage weight with crook hands.
For tool longevity it is best I believe to go 1/2” drive as O-TJ-O kindly suggested above and I’d personally suggest at a least 300Nm minimum for cracking (undoing) stubborn wheel nuts especially on trailers that may sit around for a while.
NEVER rely on your rattle gun to torque up to OEM wheel specs properly again when refitting.
A torque wrench is the only way to be fully sure for that last correct nip up after spinning the nuts back on quickly with your new coming gun of choice [emoji106]



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[rusty_nail]

I run all makita battery gear for work, love it, so many different tools in the makita battery range. Am looking at getting a battery rattle gun to make wheel rotating quicker and easier. There’s a few different options though. What would you guys say would be the minimum impact rate/torque required for rotating wheels on the patrol?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkHappy to call past yours one arvo mate, I'm working in the west ATM so most arvos go home though GB. mine develops 2000nm I believe, have always tried to nip up the nuts after tightening by hand but have never been able to turn much more. Fwiw yes it's Makita.

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[MB]

FWIW: I’ve sheared wheel studs off at 200Nm with my bare hands :-)


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[rusty_nail]

FWIW: I’ve sheared wheel studs off at 200Nm with my bare hands :-)


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI've seen your hands mate, they are untamed machines...

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[PeeBee]

I am hoping Rusty means 200 not 2000? Typo I suggest. My 240V 1/2" driver runs out at 600nm and that will shift just about anything I will come across.

[MB]

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[MB]

I am hoping Rusty means 200 not 2000? Typo I suggest. My 240V 1/2" driver runs out at 600nm and that will shift just about anything I will come across.

Agreed mate, I’ve been able to deliberately shear up to M14 maybe M16 mild steel bolts at work with only 1,000Nm


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[PeeBee]

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Is there a 12V impact wrench with an adjustable torque setting with display? My Hitachi is 'on or off', so I use it to rattle up to nip torque then finish off with the torque wrench.

[MB]

I’m sure they’ve probably invented mate but unsure if I’d personally trust it.
Do know your boss will kick your arse if you were to drop his calibrated torque wrench from a massive 20cm height impact let alone rattling built into a gun all day?


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[PeeBee]

There are 3/4" drive units with dial up torque settings - we have a couple at the mine , they are calibrated every 6 months and they are dead accurate, just have not seen one in 1/2" 18V. If they are not calibrated, then yes, indicative only I agree.

[MB]

https://www.bunnings.com.au/ozito-pxc-18v-brushless-impact-wrench-skin-only_p6290566


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[PeeBee]

www.bunnings/ozito/rattlegun/minespec/$49.99/1minute.calibration.com.au:-)


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You got me ya bugger, stupidly copied and pasted into the browser - um, old age is catching up to me I think - no more will I blindly follow!!

[rusty_nail]

Agreed mate, I’ve been able to deliberately shear up to M14 maybe M16 mild steel bolts at work with only 1,000Nm


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI was a little off but yeah, 1600nm.

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[PeeBee]

That's astounding torque, absolutely amazed, thanks for confirming that, I will store that gem away for future use.

[MudRunnerTD]

Looking for a static belt edge sander/drum sander for the workshop...needs to be dust extractor compatible...have a 6inch flexi collection system.
Wonder if there are any brands or sites I should be looking at. Looking at Second hand.
Something a little smaller than what's in the attached pick.
Location Perth WA
Cheers.

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[dpetersen]

Please do keep in mind that most of our Patrol OEM torque specs are circa 130Nm ish for wheel nuts I believe (double check your manual/model variants) to be sure!
No particular favour but I’ve just downgraded my onboard 1,000Nm beast Milwaukee 18v 1/2” (ring drive a must/never pin) to a 600Nm 18v 1/2” ring drive purely for usage weight with crook hands.
For tool longevity it is best I believe to go 1/2” drive as O-TJ-O kindly suggested above and I’d personally suggest at a least 300Nm minimum for cracking (undoing) stubborn wheel nuts especially on trailers that may sit around for a while.
NEVER rely on your rattle gun to torque up to OEM wheel specs properly again when refitting.
A torque wrench is the only way to be fully sure for that last correct nip up after spinning the nuts back on quickly with your new coming gun of choice [emoji106]



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Thanks for the info so far guys. Does anyone know the torque required for pulling studs through? That’d be the minimum torque requirement for me. Sick of doing it by hand lol


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[0-TJ-0]

Thanks for the info so far guys. Does anyone know the torque required for pulling studs through? That’d be the minimum torque requirement for me. Sick of doing it by hand lol


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You're game posting that on here! Haha I don't think you're supposed to pull studs through.. I think they need to be pressed in... Not that I ever had a wheel drop off, but there ya go ha

[mudski]

One word. JESUS! 81015


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[MudRunnerTD]

One word. JESUS! 81015


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hahaha. Yeah she aint no Dremel!!!

[PeeBee]

Based on this conversation I have just bought a 240V Makita for $138 on ebay. I will retire my Dremel to the duty it was designed for, Bigger bits as well. Thanks guys.

[mudski]

hahaha. Yeah she aint no Dremel!!!

Yep! But the Dremel does have its place. Just not for what I wanted.
Buried a few wire strands in my forehead too!!! Hahaha!
81018
Took about 20 seconds too destroy this wire wheel.


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[mudski]

Based on this conversation I have just bought a 240V Makita for $138 on ebay. I will retire my Dremel to the duty it was designed for, Bigger bits as well. Thanks guys.

I hate buying stuff on line. I don’t like to wait. If I want something I want it now. I’d rather pay the little extra if it is just to have it straight away. Impatient I am...


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[MB]

You’ll never look back Mark, well done, 27,000rpm of pure fairy dust creating work bliss mate!
Some safety warnings first though but not limited to:
#1 = Safety glasses or shield a must
#2 = Both hands needed at all times
#3 = Purchase quality bits
#4 = Allow tool to reach full RPM before insertion :-)
#5 = Never operate wearing slippers :-)

EDIT: All jokes aside, this is what happens when a bloke starts up the die grinder already within the steel hole!
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/05/79.jpg
Tungsten carbide missiles and one hell of a $50 broken bit ride trying to hang on he did :-(

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[mudski]

You’ll never look back Mark, well done, 27,000rpm of pure fairy dust creating work bliss mate!
Some safety warnings first though but not limited to:
#1 = Safety glasses or shield a must
#2 = Both hands needed at all times
#3 = Purchase quality bits
#4 = Allow tool to reach full RPM before insertion :-)
#5 = Never operate wearing slippers :-)

EDIT: All jokes aside, this is what happens when a bloke starts up the die grinder already within the steel hole!
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/05/79.jpg
Tungsten carbide missiles and one hell of a $50 broken bit ride trying to hang on he did :-(

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#5! Hahaha!
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/05/80.jpg
I’m gonna pull out the mig now and see if I can blow holes in this panel.

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[PeeBee]

I hate buying stuff on line. I don’t like to wait. If I want something I want it now. I’d rather pay the little extra if it is just to have it straight away. Impatient I am...


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True, I just want one, no other reason, but prepared for the next time I need to carve out a slot or whatever.

[10G]

Went looking at cordless impact drills today coz I think I need one.
Like this:
https://www.bunnings.com.au/ryobi-one-18v-impact-driver-skin-only_p0023492

While looking I also saw a drill with a 1/2" drive on it.
Like this:
https://www.bunnings.com.au/ryobi-one-18v-3-speed-impact-wrench-skin-only_p6210658

Apart from the obvious socket connecting part of the drill, what's the difference between these 2 types of drill?

And with impact drills, how do I connect my 1/4" & 1/2" sockets to it? They just seem to have a small hole in 'em. I'm guessing I need some sort of extra adapter or something???? Does that adapter come with the drill usually??? And do I need an 'impact' type adapter like I need impact sockets???

I was looking at the Ryobi 18v stuff as we already have Ryobi 18v gardening stuff.

This gear won't get alot of use, so i don't need top shelf stuff.

Thanks for any help guys.

[Mickhead]

Depends what you want to use it for... first one is good for driving things like bugle head batten screws into timber, second one is good for wheel nuts. And other nuts and bolts.
Get a brushless one if they have them.

[10G]

Oh shit, glad i asked. It's for work on the Patrol and stuff like that, yep, wheel nuts is high up on the list.

So if it has a 1/2 drive, do need to use impact type 1/2" - 3/8' adapters etc????

Just trying to build the shopping list.

[mudnut]

Definitely use GOOD impact sockets with the gun. I've seen the injuries normal sockets cause when they shatter.

Also this is the result of using the lighter normal sockets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oc9N5LDtB0

Or some brands of socket https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMZcf76f0W4

A bit basic but good info https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdZ8nSqsI34

[10G]

So good quality sockets.

Will an impact socket fit on the wheel nuts when using the Patrol 17" alloy rims?

Would you use an impact drill on anything when working on your car, or another type of drill? I'm thinking if you use an impact drill do I need a full set of impact sockets???

[rusty_nail]

So good quality sockets.

Will an impact socket fit on the wheel nuts when using the Patrol 17" alloy rims?

Would you use an impact drill on anything when working on your car, or another type of drill? I'm thinking if you use an impact drill do I need a full set of impact sockets???

Hi mate, I highly recommend as above, a good set, but get one with an extension bar. My set doesn't have one and I'm always using a non impact extension when I just quite can't get to the nut or bolt. One thing to note, are you going down Ryobi because you already have that battery range? Or because it's affordable? That skin only produces 360nm of torque. Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong but imho it will be enough to undo some nuts, but most will need to be cracked by hand first?

Milwaukee and Makita, possible DeWalt do much higher torque units, enough to undo wheel nuts without cracking them. But if it's about budget or batteries, that Ryobi one would be good value for money and still mostly help you do what you need.

Definitely wouldn't recommend using an impact driver, you'll kill the poor thing, also have used the Ryobi impacts, they are pretty gutless. Have a look at the specs, I believe it will develop only half the torque as the rattle gun.

Regarding fitting sockets to the impact driver, there are bits available for hex to 1/4 inch and 1/2 inch so you can fit your sockets but the tool is mostly designed for fast screwing etc.

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[0-TJ-0]

I have one of these; (a dewalt impact driver)

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/323816538417

With a (much better set than the link) set of these adapters;

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/193447162270

I find it does everything I want, fits in medium/tight spots and cracks some pretty solid nuts and bolts. I use it for pretty much everything, working on the house, driving screws and I don't work on the patrol without it. Only thing it's not really good for is wheel nuts. I have cracked one just out of curiosity but I wouldn't do it again..

As a side note, I'd never be without one again. I'd buy exactly the same again next time too. Good value for money. I hear makita are much better but a little more $$ also. I reckon I'm just gunna grab a cheap air gun for my tyre rotations.

[10G]

Being able to undo wheel nuts is high on the list, so what should I look at?

I don't do alot of mechanical stuff anymore, I'm just trying to make things a little easier.

Might I be better of getting a compressor and an air gun???

[Winnie]

That ryobi rattle gun will do the job just fine for the price.
I have the older version and have definitely used it for more than it was designed for, it is showing signs of wear now but nearly 10 years old.
I'll probably replace it with a Milwaukee one but only because that's the drill and battery format that I have gone with

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[rusty_nail]

Being able to undo wheel nuts is high on the list, so what should I look at?

I don't do alot of mechanical stuff anymore, I'm just trying to make things a little easier.

Might I be better of getting a compressor and an air gun???If you don't have a compressor and hose already, it would nearly be as much to get a battery charger and cordless rattle gun from a brand with higher torque?

I have this one, honestly have never used a more powerful tool gun, haven't found anything it can't undo yet.

https://www.totaltools.com.au/110134-makita-18v-brushless-1-2-1000nm-impact-wrench-combo-kit-dtw1002rtj

Have used the Milwaukee one MB owns, it's also great but both options are a substantial investment.

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[0-TJ-0]

Like the others have suggested, if wheel nuts are a primary requirement look for anything with the 1/2in or bigger socket head. Then it's really just up to you how much money you want to spend. I already have a compressor for my plasma cutter and find it handy for a bunch of little things, that's the only reason I'd personally opt for an air gun. Pound for pound an air rattle gun will be cheaper, but then you need the compressor, hose and somewhere to put it all. A good option, just not nearly as convenient.

[10G]

Thanks everyone for your great help and advice, it's much appreciated.

Was driving to work and remembered these things:
https://www.4wdsupacentre.com.au/products/tools/hercules-impact-wrench-12v.html

I looked into these a while back, can't remember why I didn't get one???

Think I may get one of these and see how I get on as it is mostly for wheel nuts and it won't get tons of use. If it's crap, no worries, but if it's great I'll save a few $hundred.

Thanks again everyone.

[Winnie]

They are an excellent alternative.
We used MudRunnerTD's one to undo the flywheel bolts on my engine when 2 other cordless rattle guns would not do the job.
It works on a different principle and is much slower but will get the job done every time.

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[MudRunnerTD]

Thanks everyone for your great help and advice, it's much appreciated.

Was driving to work and remembered these things:
https://www.4wdsupacentre.com.au/products/tools/hercules-impact-wrench-12v.html

I looked into these a while back, can't remember why I didn't get one???

Think I may get one of these and see how I get on as it is mostly for wheel nuts and it won't get tons of use. If it's crap, no worries, but if it's great I'll save a few $hundred.

Thanks again everyone.

Yes i have had one of these for 20 years. the first time i saw one i thought it was a joke.... The first time i pulled the trigger i thought OMFG This thing will be a Beast. When all else fails that is a Beast and works every time. If your really keen to crack a wheel nut then it will easily do it.

To be honest cracking a wheel nut is nice but over rated to be honest. It requires a fairly decent Impact Wrench to get it done. If you never lube your studs then it is even harder. Lube your Studs....

For my money i would buy the Impact Driver over the Impact Wrench. I have both. I have had the Driver for nearly 20 years and it has done a Heap of work around the house and a HEAP of work on the car. You need a 1/4 drive and 1/2 drive adapter for it then you can use it with your socket set. Given it is a lighter impact i have never used impact sockets with it and always just my standard set. It does most of the heavy lifting for me. Then Crack or tighten finally by Hand. But all the wrench work is via the driver which is the leg work let us face it.

Great to have in your kit then for tek screws and other uses. Great kit. Light in the hand and plenty of bang for buck..

I have a larger Makita Impact Wrench and to be honest i find it Heavy and cumbersome and quite large and therefore bloody useless under the bonnet, under the car maybe but no good in the engine bay as it is too big. All of my car work up until about 12 months ago was done with an Impact Driver. Great Kit. Buy that.

12 months ago i got a smaller Makita Impact Wrench in the 1/2 and it is the same size as my driver but with a 1/2 drive and it is great. now my GoTo unit but same size as the driver. If i could only choose 1 then the Driver gets the gig as a much more versatile tool in your life time. The Driver is made to rattle just a little less torque. it will get it done for you. Lets face it most of the small stuff you will do around the car is less that a 12mm nut and the driver will thread that up and down all day long. Crack the nut the spin her off with the driver. Good to go.

Imagine if you could only buy 1 hammer in your life time. 1 hammer. You occasionally need a Big hammer but always need a small hammer. Do you buy a Sledge hammer and hit in 2" nails as well as star pickets.... Or a smaller hammer that does nearly everything you need and if you ever have to hit in a Star picket either borrow a sledge hammer or hit it harder by hand...

[10G]

Yes i have had one of these for 20 years. the first time i saw one i thought it was a joke.... The first time i pulled the trigger i thought OMFG This thing will be a Beast. When all else fails that is a Beast and works every time. If your really keen to crack a wheel nut then it will easily do it.

To be honest cracking a wheel nut is nice but over rated to be honest. It requires a fairly decent Impact Wrench to get it done. If you never lube your studs then it is even harder. Lube your Studs....

For my money i would buy the Impact Driver over the Impact Wrench. I have both. I have had the Driver for nearly 20 years and it has done a Heap of work around the house and a HEAP of work on the car. You need a 1/4 drive and 1/2 drive adapter for it then you can use it with your socket set. Given it is a lighter impact i have never used impact sockets with it and always just my standard set. It does most of the heavy lifting for me. Then Crack or tighten finally by Hand. But all the wrench work is via the driver which is the leg work let us face it.

Great to have in your kit then for tek screws and other uses. Great kit. Light in the hand and plenty of bang for buck..

I have a larger Makita Impact Wrench and to be honest i find it Heavy and cumbersome and quite large and therefore bloody useless under the bonnet, under the car maybe but no good in the engine bay as it is too big. All of my car work up until about 12 months ago was done with an Impact Driver. Great Kit. Buy that.

12 months ago i got a smaller Makita Impact Wrench in the 1/2 and it is the same size as my driver but with a 1/2 drive and it is great. now my GoTo unit but same size as the driver. If i could only choose 1 then the Driver gets the gig as a much more versatile tool in your life time. The Driver is made to rattle just a little less torque. it will get it done for you. Lets face it most of the small stuff you will do around the car is less that a 12mm nut and the driver will thread that up and down all day long. Crack the nut the spin her off with the driver. Good to go.

Imagine if you could only buy 1 hammer in your life time. 1 hammer. You occasionally need a Big hammer but always need a small hammer. Do you buy a Sledge hammer and hit in 2" nails as well as star pickets.... Or a smaller hammer that does nearly everything you need and if you ever have to hit in a Star picket either borrow a sledge hammer or hit it harder by hand...

Thanks for the info Daz, much appreciated.

I went forked out $69 for one of those Hercules 12v wrenches, I reckon it'll do what I want & if it doesn't well I'll worry about that then.

Sounds like from what you said that the driver may be the way to go, the type of work I'd do would be lighter stuff so the driver may be a more appropriate option.

Thanks everyone.

[MudRunnerTD]

Thanks for the info Daz, much appreciated.

I went forked out $69 for one of those Hercules 12v wrenches, I reckon it'll do what I want & if it doesn't well I'll worry about that then.

Sounds like from what you said that the driver may be the way to go, the type of work I'd do would be lighter stuff so the driver may be a more appropriate option.

Thanks everyone.

That will work well on those Star Pickets mate ;)

[MudRunnerTD]

10G i am going to merge this thread into the Tools Thread mate as i think it sits well in that discussion.

[10G]

10G i am going to merge this thread into the Tools Thread mate as i think it sits well in that discussion.

sure go crazy. Now about those star pickets ????????

[MudRunnerTD]

sure go crazy. Now about those star pickets ????????

My analogy, You only need a Big Hammer for Star Pickets occasionally. That cheap rattle gun will sort that out well. The first time you pull the trigger you will look at it and then it will go Bang and you will go ....OH!!! Some of the stuff i have done with mine is ridiculous to be honest. Like "No Way!!" Bang! "Holy Shit!!" Done..

[Mickhead]

Thanks for the info Daz, much appreciated.

I went forked out $69 for one of those Hercules 12v wrenches, I reckon it'll do what I want & if it doesn't well I'll worry about that then.

Sounds like from what you said that the driver may be the way to go, the type of work I'd do would be lighter stuff so the driver may be a more appropriate option.

Thanks everyone.

If it does not work for you (my guess is it will be binned shortly :) )any one of these will. As for the “ oh no it only has 360 nm of torque my blah blah dearer one has twice that “ do not be concerned. Wheel nut torque is around 130 nm. Dont stress about impact sockets, any good quality six sided ones will do. Dont use the 12 sided ones and always wear eye protection or look away.
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[rusty_nail]

dont stress about impact sockets, any good quality six sided ones will do. Dont use the 12 sided ones and always wear eye protection or look away.
81156

Interested to get your thoughts on that mate? I'm guessing the more sides takes strength away from the socket but even six siders I have busted before? Care to elaborate?

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[jay see]

Not tool related but close. Work boots..

I'm due for a new pair and unsure what to get.

I'm looking at the $150-200 range.
Steel Blue, mongrel, cat is there much difference between them all?

I know that everyone says that they want a comfortable boot, but I really do mean it.



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[TPC]

Tax time so got a few new tools.
81159
Needed new toolboxes too.
81160

[0-TJ-0]

Interested to get your thoughts on that mate? I'm guessing the more sides takes strength away from the socket but even six siders I have busted before? Care to elaborate?

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They round out easier and usually have skinnier walls.

I have a small set of impact sockets but rarely use them because they don't fit a lot of places. I've got a reasonably good set of kinchrome sockets that I use flat out with the little impact driver. I'm not saying it's right, but like above they only see light to medium impact from the driver anyway. They're 12 sided and a couple (10 & 12mm) are starting to get a little flogged out from using them like that but none have broken.

Its always worth having your safety squints engaged.. Seriously though, even using the correct sockets it's always worth taking care of your eyes from flying bits of hot steel.

[rusty_nail]

Not tool related but close. Work boots..

I'm due for a new pair and unsure what to get.

I'm looking at the $150-200 range.
Steel Blue, mongrel, cat is there much difference between them all?

I know that everyone says that they want a comfortable boot, but I really do mean it.



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i just bought myself a pair of macks, pretty comfortable, best ankle support i found out of what total tools had available, nice and warm in winter too. maybe you can talk them into a half price/product discount =P

[TPC]

Not tool related but close. Work boots..

I'm due for a new pair and unsure what to get.

I'm looking at the $150-200 range.
Steel Blue, mongrel, cat is there much difference between them all?

I know that everyone says that they want a comfortable boot, but I really do mean it.



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I have Blundstones, cost around 200 and the most comfortable boots I have ever had.

[Winnie]

Not tool related but close. Work boots..

I'm due for a new pair and unsure what to get.

I'm looking at the $150-200 range.
Steel Blue, mongrel, cat is there much difference between them all?

I know that everyone says that they want a comfortable boot, but I really do mean it.



Sent from my CPH1979 using TapatalkI had steel blues and mongrels, both were comfy but did not last long.
I have found Oliver's to be the best by far.

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[Rossco]

Yeah have had nothing but Olivers for years, they are insanely comfy.

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[pollenface]

I want to buy a Makita 2x18v brushless U-handle whippersnipper & 18v brushless 250mm chainsaw (I have other makita stuff).

Update: Just ordered the saw, $349. Woo :) I want to carry in my backpack on the bike and clear tracks.

[jay see]

Cheers gents.

I dropped in to my local workwear today. The had all the named brands. I've had Oliver, redback and Blundstone in the past and found them all to be good. I took the reps advice and tired something different. Steel Blue. Will see how they go.

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[10G]

Not tool related but close. Work boots..

I'm due for a new pair and unsure what to get.

I'm looking at the $150-200 range.
Steel Blue, mongrel, cat is there much difference between them all?

I know that everyone says that they want a comfortable boot, but I really do mean it.



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Redbacks every day of the week. Olivers, not heard of them.

[10G]

If it does not work for you (my guess is it will be binned shortly :) )any one of these will. As for the “ oh no it only has 360 nm of torque my blah blah dearer one has twice that “ do not be concerned. Wheel nut torque is around 130 nm. Dont stress about impact sockets, any good quality six sided ones will do. Dont use the 12 sided ones and always wear eye protection or look away.
81156

I'm a trustworthy bloke Mick, tell ya what, send them all over to me, I'll test them and let you know which one is best.

[Mickhead]

Interested to get your thoughts on that mate? I'm guessing the more sides takes strength away from the socket but even six siders I have busted before? Care to elaborate?

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The 12 sided ones are more likely to damage the nut if any wear on either nut or socket is present a poor quality 6 sided socket will still break as easily as a 12 sided one

[Mickhead]

I'm a trustworthy bloke Mick, tell ya what, send them all over to me, I'll test them and let you know which one is best.

Haha The big one on top is marginally best power wise but you would like it too much and I would never see it again!
Buy one from Bunnings and if you dont like it repackage it and return it! Works for me :)

[Mickhead]

Cheers gents.

I dropped in to my local workwear today. The had all the named brands. I've had Oliver, redback and Blundstone in the past and found them all to be good. I took the reps advice and tired something different. Steel Blue. Will see how they go.

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Steel Blue = awesome. Used to get sore feet before I found them. On my 3 rd pair.

[mudski]

Not tool related but close. Work boots..

I'm due for a new pair and unsure what to get.

I'm looking at the $150-200 range.
Steel Blue, mongrel, cat is there much difference between them all?

I know that everyone says that they want a comfortable boot, but I really do mean it.



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Nuff said!
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[Brissieboy]

Thongs! Double-pluggers if safety is an issue.

[10G]

Thanks for the info Daz, much appreciated.

I went forked out $69 for one of those Hercules 12v wrenches, I reckon it'll do what I want & if it doesn't well I'll worry about that then.

Sounds like from what you said that the driver may be the way to go, the type of work I'd do would be lighter stuff so the driver may be a more appropriate option.

Thanks everyone.

Wrench turned up today, gotta be happy with that service, ordered on Thursday, turns up lunch time Monday in rural Vic.

Not opened it up yet, will later on.

[PeeBee]

Bought one of these 'reluctantly as its probably going to be used once every 20000yrs. Need it right now to drill out a snapped stud in the block tomorrow, simply could not do it any other way due to clearance issues, or had to remove the radiator. have a pile of batteries i use for my chainsaw, so that worked. I suppose if I put it into a shop to have them do it it would have been twice the cost of the tool.81172

[10G]

Gee I've had a few uses for something like that over the years. Will it be out of warranty in 20000 years?

[rusty_nail]

Bought one of these 'reluctantly as its probably going to be used once every 20000yrs. Need it right now to drill out a snapped stud in the block tomorrow, simply could not do it any other way due to clearance issues, or had to remove the radiator. have a pile of batteries i use for my chainsaw, so that worked. I suppose if I put it into a shop to have them do it it would have been twice the cost of the tool.81172How's it going mate? They are an awesome tool but with very limited purposes. Often wanted one for cabinet making etc but have always gone the tightass drill adapter approach, they are about $300 right?

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[PeeBee]

Yes Nic, on the shelf at Total tools for $298, but got it for $270. I have the chuck 90 deg adapter, but they are a bit weak. I have a 100% metal one I found some time ago, but it still is longer in the snout than this one. I am hoping its going to make the stub removal easier tomorrow.

[nissannewby]

Yes Nic, on the shelf at Total tools for $298, but got it for $270. I have the chuck 90 deg adapter, but they are a bit weak. I have a 100% metal one I found some time ago, but it still is longer in the snout than this one. I am hoping its going to make the stub removal easier tomorrow.

Is the bolt broken below the surface of the thread?

If it's not then just weld a nut to it and undo it. Even if its snapped flush you can still weld something to it.

[MudRunnerTD]

Bought one of these 'reluctantly as its probably going to be used once every 20000yrs. Need it right now to drill out a snapped stud in the block tomorrow, simply could not do it any other way due to clearance issues, or had to remove the radiator. have a pile of batteries i use for my chainsaw, so that worked. I suppose if I put it into a shop to have them do it it would have been twice the cost of the tool.81172

Nice, i have one is a Corded version which i did a Heap of work with back in the day. generally only used it as a Screw gun though for a specific product in my range. It has been handy for the odd hole though over the years for sure. Could not justify an 18v one these days and you are right it will be used little. The guy that built my shed had one and he used it for tek screws in confined spaces and it worked great. Up against the fence for the boxing for the concreter was also handy.

[PeeBee]

Is the bolt broken below the surface of the thread?

If it's not then just weld a nut to it and undo it. Even if its snapped flush you can still weld something to it.

The image from the camera has it flush with the block, but I will see tomorrow morning when I get the plates apart.

[PeeBee]

Good points Darren, I asked about the 240V corded versions and they were close to $700 each! I am sure it will get used, but they were all around this 280-325 mark, so just went with the brand i had batteries for.

[Winnie]

They are great for tradies doing rough ins on new houses!

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[Cremulator]

This Stanley ratcheting screw driver is great. I bought it because the hex sized screwdriver and Allen head bits fit into it. I wanted something that had greater reach and was easier to do up or undo Allen key bolts.
There are two sizes, short and long and it was only once I used it I found that the long extension is removable! So you effectively get the short version too. Bonus.

There are bits in the handle, but I've rarely used them.
Highly recommended of you hate removing and resetting Allen keys to tighten or remove bolts.http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/06/6.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/06/7.jpg

[rusty_nail]

Just seen this circ saw on Maine cabin masters!!! What a bloody beast! For those not Familiar with stupid imperial, the blade diameter is over 413mm!!! http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/06/9.jpg

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[Plasnart]

Just seen this circ saw on Maine cabin masters!!! What a bloody beast! For those not Familiar with stupid imperial, the blade diameter is over 413mm!!! http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/06/9.jpg

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What would be the cutting depth on that one nicco?

[rusty_nail]

Probably around 180mm? I reckon it would still cut deeper than a 12" dropsaw

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[Plasnart]

Would wanna be Japanese Makita too, not from the chinese division.

[rusty_nail]

Would wanna be Japanese Makita too, not from the chinese division.They have stuff mate in England too! My 18v planer is English made. The Japanese stuff is definitely better quality than the Chinese tools

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[Plasnart]

They have stuff mate in England too! My 18v planer is English made. The Japanese stuff is definitely better quality than the Chinese tools

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Wow didn't know about the pommy factory. Have always preferred makita tools, and when i bought the rattle gun a few years ago I had to be particular. The good from Nippon. The not-so-good from Bat Soup central.

[Cuppa]

So how do you pick the Japanese Makita? Is it just a case of checking the label on individual appliances, or are they only available from particular retailers?

[Plasnart]

So how do you pick the Japanese Makita? Is it just a case of checking the label on individual appliances, or are they only available from particular retailers?

i just checked the actual tool Cuppa.

[Cuppa]

For tools to carry in the car this combo from Bahco covers probably 80% of my travelling needs. The quality is excellent. The ratchet ring spanner set has really good tiny ratchet increments, good for tight spaces, but is also a great space & weight saving as each spanner has 4 sizes on it making this set of 4 the equivalent of 16 spanners. (8mm-27mm ) The heads are slightly larger than if they were 16 (or 8) individual spanners, but to date this has not proven a problem. I love the socket set +. Having it all in the case, each item with it's own place is a real luxury (for me). Many times I've been packing up & straight off noticed an item missing from it's designated spot - only to then find it laying in the grass or the sand.

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However, probably the one single tool I would most not want to be without is one made by Jung. A pair of multigrips. They are so versatile, & these Jung ones are just so well designed compared to others I have had in the past. Great grip, great leverage, great ergonomics & does not get 'jammed up' like some of the cheaper designs. Chrome-vanadium. This is one of those tools that we probably shouldn't use for many of the tasks they get used for, but I trust this one. No idea where you'd buy one now though. A quick google for Jung Tools didn't find anything. I bought this probably 6 or 7 years ago from Total Tools. if you come across one grab it quick.

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[10G]

That's a bloody good looking multi grip Cuppa, solid as a bloody rock.

Has anyone used those sockets that are 1 size on 1 side and another size on the other? Wondering if they're any good???

[Mickhead]

Wow didn't know about the pommy factory. Have always preferred makita tools, and when i bought the rattle gun a few years ago I had to be particular. The good from Nippon. The not-so-good from Bat Soup central.
Bet you typed that from your bat soup central panda foot blue crab samsung apple huawei etc! :) :)

[Plasnart]

Bet you typed that from your bat soup central panda foot blue crab samsung apple huawei etc! :) :)

Haha nope! Samsung tablet proudly made in Vietnam!

[rusty_nail]

So how do you pick the Japanese Makita? Is it just a case of checking the label on individual appliances, or are they only available from particular retailers?

yeah mate they just individually say where they are made on the tool

[Cuppa]

yeah mate they just individually say where they are made on the tool

Yeah, checked the two Makita tools we travel with today. The impact driver - made in China, & the chainsaw - made in Japan.

[Mickhead]

Haha nope! Samsung tablet proudly made in Vietnam!

Fuk me swinging.. Samsung is South Korean,,,. They farmed their stuff out to China. Now they cant be fooked making it and passed it on to the Vietnamese? I have some WIHA branded German pliers made in....... Vietnam.
This is sad.

[MudRunnerTD]

So was doing some.more moving in to the new shed today and had thia out and thought Bloody Hell this has been a Great addition to my workshop. So took some pics.

Best thing Ever! Seriously. The whole thing us High Tensile Metric. Sooooo Bloody Handy.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/06/14.jpg

My Local Bolt shop sell this as an AG Pak. Farmers must love them.

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And to go with it this is a great kit too.

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[Cuppa]

Another highly versatile Travel Tool. Was using it a few minutes ago to clean out one of the usb C ports on my laptop, & as usual when using it, thought to myself this is one of those tools where nothing else can do the same job. I'd call it an essential travel tool.

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[Cremulator]

MudRunnerTD that bolt pack actually looks like a bargain for $110!
Cuppa as someone who has never had air tools, can that blower run off a compressor (like you'd use for your tyres) or does it require a compressed air tank?

[MudRunnerTD]

MudRunnerTD that bolt pack actually looks like a bargain for $110!
Cuppa as someone who has never had air tools, can that blower run off a compressor (like you'd use for your tyres) or does it require a compressed air tank?

Yeah I can't remember what paid for it but I reckon it was about that. And at $110 it was %110 a bargain and saved me a heap of times to date. Sooo bloody handy.

[MB]

Another highly versatile Travel Tool. Was using it a few minutes ago to clean out one of the usb C ports on my laptop, & as usual when using it, thought to myself this is one of those tools where nothing else can do the same job. I'd call it an essential travel tool.

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“Essential” 100% Agree Cuppa Mate!
Especially out in the dusty country you’ve well and truly travelled now.
I believe ours are the same faithful so far brand too, one stubby, one longer snout.

If I may; @Cremulaor Mate, depends on your patience. Without an air tank it will take a shipload longer to slowly ‘fooff’ out your faithful paper filters versus blasting them with circa 100psi + of longer minutes of storage beyond a standard compressors pissy little 100ml of seconds.





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[Plasnart]

“Essential” 100% Agree Cuppa Mate!
Especially out in the dusty country you’ve well and truly travelled now.
I believe ours are the same faithful so far brand too, one stubby, one longer snout.

If I may; @Cremulaor Mate, depends on your patience. Without an air tank it will take a shipload longer to slowly ‘fooff’ out your faithful paper filters versus blasting them with circa 100psi + of longer minutes of storage beyond a standard compressors pissy little 100ml of seconds.





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These posts make me think long and hard about getting serious about the Sigma compressor endless air project again.

[Cuppa]

Cuppa as someone who has never had air tools, can that blower run off a compressor (like you'd use for your tyres) or does it require a compressed air tank?

I dont carry any other air tools except for a tyre inflator, but originally thought I may carry more air tools, so fitted a 9 litre air tank. Since then I have thought once or twice about deleting the air tank, but have kept it because having the blow gun is just so useful. Have not actually tried it without the tank, but suspect MB has described what it would be like to use without one. Some compressors would manage a better job than others but I reckon a tank is the go.

[MB]

From what little I know, most compressors we are talking about here seem to be high pressure/low volume.
To blow the snot out of something needed we require the near opposite and or better a tank to volume store the ‘booofff’ release :-)


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[rusty_nail]

From what little I know, most compressors we are talking about here seem to be high pressure/low volume.
To blow the snot out of something needed we require the near opposite and or better a tank to volume store the ‘booofff’ release :-)


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haha thats is a great analogy MB hats off to ya mate

[0-TJ-0]

So was doing some.more moving in to the new shed today and had thia out and thought Bloody Hell this has been a Great addition to my workshop. So took some pics.

Best thing Ever! Seriously. The whole thing us High Tensile Metric. Sooooo Bloody Handy.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/06/14.jpg

My Local Bolt shop sell this as an AG Pak. Farmers must love them.

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http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/06/16.jpg

And to go with it this is a great kit too.

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Mate I have searched for a nut and bolt kit with a good variety of useful sizes on a few occasions and came up short. Just got a couple of smaller kits around the m6/m8 sizes.

Then I see this, 20 seconds later found it on ebay!.. Would have paid for it on the spot if I was going to be around to accept the delivery! Legend. Thanks for that. Absolutely agree, having a good assortment of hardware on hand is up there with the most important things to have on the shelf.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/164237336609

[TPC]

So was doing some.more moving in to the new shed today and had thia out and thought Bloody Hell this has been a Great addition to my workshop. So took some pics.

Best thing Ever! Seriously. The whole thing us High Tensile Metric. Sooooo Bloody Handy.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/06/14.jpg

My Local Bolt shop sell this as an AG Pak. Farmers must love them.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/06/15.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/06/16.jpg

And to go with it this is a great kit too.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/06/17.jpg

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I have a container of assorted high tensile bolts too, they have been built up over the years every time I visit U-Pullit I always remove lots of bolts from the vehicle I am getting the part I need. They never check what is in your toolbox when you leave.

[Plasnart]

haha thats is a great analogy MB hats off to ya mate

My thoughts exactly Nicco! Nail. Head. Smashed it. :)

[mudnut]

Just snapped the end of on finger in the chuck of my Ozito drill. Can't find the receipt, Damn it!

[mudski]

“Essential” 100% Agree Cuppa Mate!
Especially out in the dusty country you’ve well and truly travelled now.
I believe ours are the same faithful so far brand too, one stubby, one longer snout.

If I may; @Cremulaor Mate, depends on your patience. Without an air tank it will take a shipload longer to slowly ‘fooff’ out your faithful paper filters versus blasting them with circa 100psi + of longer minutes of storage beyond a standard compressors pissy little 100ml of seconds.


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Just be careful. The last thing you want to be doing is blasting a paper element with 100psi. Put a hole in the element and its a dusted engine you will have. A good tap on the ground and a light air dusting from the inside to out is best.

[Plasnart]

Just snapped the end of on finger in the chuck of my Ozito drill. Can't find the receipt, Damn it!

Credit card/bank statement will do Muddy. Anything to show the dough came out of your account from that supplier. I used a visa statament once to get a refund from Bunnings.

[TPC]

Just snapped the end of on finger in the chuck of my Ozito drill. Can't find the receipt, Damn it!

I am confused, what snapped off?

[Winnie]

It was spoken in true fluent MB

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[mudnut]

It was spoken in true fluent MB

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Better word for it is one of the jaws of the chuck, Tony.

[Sprock]

Cuppa I just did a search for ‘jung tools multi grips’ & as you said came up with nothing , Toledo , Bahco & Knipex make a very similar looking set - the size / locking mechanism is much better than than the old fashioned style . I’ve got both types but feel much more confident with the newer style ( there’s probly a name for the locking setup but I don’t know what it is )

[MB]

Just be careful. The last thing you want to be doing is blasting a paper element with 100psi. Put a hole in the element and its a dusted engine you will have. A good tap on the ground and a light air dusting from the inside to out is best.

Fair point Mr Mark Mate!
Damn sticky flying ants up our neck of the rotting woods won’t come off my quality OEM filters without anything less ;-)


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[TPC]

Better word for it is one of the jaws of the chuck, Tony.

Understand now.
Did you buy it with credit card? If so they can look up the sale.

[10G]

Just be careful. The last thing you want to be doing is blasting a paper element with 100psi. Put a hole in the element and its a dusted engine you will have. A good tap on the ground and a light air dusting from the inside to out is best.

This ^^^ has just made think I may change to genuine air filters.

I recently bought a Repco oil filter, it was pretty average. I then bought a genuine Nissan oil filter, the quality is like chalk and cheese, but so were the prices. But you get what you pay for, so you can't really complain.

[10G]

Wrench turned up today, gotta be happy with that service, ordered on Thursday, turns up lunch time Monday in rural Vic.

Not opened it up yet, will later on.

Well used the 12v wrench/rattle gun thing the other day, it worked great, no problems. It has to build up a head a steam, it warms up, gives the nut a whack, then warms up again, another whack and so on, sort of strange I thought, but it does the job pretty well.

[10G]

Hey Cuppa, are those Jung pliers from Germany?

[mudski]

This ^^^ has just made think I may change to genuine air filters.

I recently bought a Repco oil filter, it was pretty average. I then bought a genuine Nissan oil filter, the quality is like chalk and cheese, but so were the prices. But you get what you pay for, so you can't really complain.

Donaldson do the best air filter on the market in my opinion. But yeah the OEM filter is better than Ryco.

[mudski]

Probably one of the most useful bit or kit I have. Used it heaps. Well worth the coin.
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[MudRunnerTD]

Yeah Tap and Die Set is great. I have a large kit o got off eBay. It has been great. The sizing has been a little off (size labels wrong ) but it has got the job done quite a few times.

[NissanGQ4.2]

I got nothing.... you guys suck!!!!!

[Winnie]

Probably one of the most useful bit or kit I have. Used it heaps. Well worth the coin.
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Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI don't use mine very often but it pays for itself every single time it gets used!

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[Brissieboy]

I have separate sets for metric (fine and coarse), imperial, UNF and BA - all collected over many years from various sources and all in use an various times.
It's great to be able to just grab what you need when you need it and not have to rely on someone else or dash off to the suppliers.

[pollenface]

Probably one of the most useful bit or kit I have. Used it heaps. Well worth the coin.


One of my bigger mistakes in life was getting a cheap, incomplete tap & die kit.

[jack]

I’ve got a nice variety of taps and dies. Inherited from my dad including one set from WW2 still in it’s original wooden box. Still gets used when needed.
Inherited all my dads tools, he was a brilliant tradesman and made sure to send us boys to technical school.

[0-TJ-0]

This little fella..

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$15 from SCA. Bled all my brakes myself with no "up, down, up, down, up, wait... Down" needed. Game changer for me.

Action shot;

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[mudski]

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[10G]

um ^^ ?????

[rusty_nail]

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did you buy some makita and dewalt tools, score a free hat and give one to your boyfriend?

or is he an escort and you bought his tool for a night, will you be providing feedback on how it went? i dont think anyone wants to know bud

[mudski]

did you buy some makita and dewalt tools, score a free hat and give one to your boyfriend?

or is he an escort and you bought his tool for a night, will you be providing feedback on how it went? i dont think anyone wants to know bud

Milwaukee for me all the way mate....


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[Cremulator]

I bought this last month, just tried it out today and makes drilling straight holes an absolute joy!
Big gator drill guide.
Works on both flat and curved surfaces too.
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[MudRunnerTD]

So this went up.in the shed today. Scored it off FB market place 5 minutes from home a month ago for $15. Championship Bristel board. Stoked.


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Play a game today against myself... and Lost.. need more beer.

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[mudski]

So this went up.in the shed today. Scored it off FB market place 5 minutes from home a month ago for $15. Championship Bristel board. Stoked.


http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/08/56.jpg


Play a game today against myself... and Lost.. need more beer.

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Nice. Don’t think I’ll be using my dart board though.
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[TPC]

Nice. Don’t think I’ll be using my dart board though.
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Why wouldn't you use it?

[jay see]

So this went up.in the shed today. Scored it off FB market place 5 minutes from home a month ago for $15. Championship Bristel board. Stoked.


http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/08/56.jpg


Play a game today against myself... and Lost.. need more beer.

Sent from my SM-G977B using TapatalkNice score.

I've been looking out for one around my area, no luck yet.

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[jay see]

Wanting to buy a welder..
Something just for the odd job at home.
What have people got and what do you recommend.

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[MudRunnerTD]

Wanting to buy a welder..
Something just for the odd job at home.
What have people got and what do you recommend.

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Combination Mig and Stick, Gas. 170amp at least. Buy a bottle , don't rent it's a con. EBay job will get it done.

[jay see]

Combination Mig and Stick, Gas. 170amp at least. Buy a bottle , don't rent it's a con. EBay job will get it done.What about these gas/gasless ones???

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[MudRunnerTD]

What about these gas/gasless ones???

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Yeah they are fine but gasless is Puss mate. Use gas wire.

[Winnie]

So this went up.in the shed today. Scored it off FB market place 5 minutes from home a month ago for $15. Championship Bristel board. Stoked.


http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/08/56.jpg


Play a game today against myself... and Lost.. need more beer.

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[PeeBee]

Yeah they are fine but gasless is Puss mate. Use gas wire.

Agree, I bought a little gas/gasless unit, 130amp specifically for light metal work, total waste of time, 0.9mm wire on flux core, what a mess. After hours stuffing around with reconfiguring machine and running on gas, still a load of crap, simply not enough current to get the bead to flatten, so i am now after a 250amp unit to supplement the two arc welders I have. i have an 'old' CIG professional lunchbox welder that will weld 3.2mm rods all day, and also bought a very compact solid state welder for the thinner stuff. i am also looking hard at a combo TIG/MIG set-up, but at darren says, get the grunt for the MIG or you will be disappointed. Agree with the gas bottle statement also, Total Tools sells them as well.

[Mickhead]

Wanting to buy a welder..
Something just for the odd job at home.
What have people got and what do you recommend.

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Saw this at Bunnings today. Is good. Have one. 81668

[Mickhead]

The MST185 is excellent too 8166981669

[Mickhead]

Saw this at Bunnings today. Is good. Have one. 81668

Have a really good look at this it is an $1000 alloy welding beast of a welder

[MB]

She looks a beaut Mick, Jay Mate you should See if a Tradie Mate can collect one for you too [emoji106][emoji106]

https://www.bunnings.com.au/a-message-to-our-customers


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[MudRunnerTD]

Saw this at Bunnings today. Is good. Have one. 81668

Looks great but it doesn't do Mig Bugger it. If it did I might grab it myself.

[mudski]

Why wouldn't you use it?

It’s a limited numbered collectors item. Once my room down stairs is done I’ll get another dart board to use.


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[jay see]

It’s a limited numbered collectors item. Once my room down stairs is done I’ll get another dart board to use.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkOr you could give it to me and I'll use it. Limited number collectors. 🥱

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[TPC]

It’s a limited numbered collectors item. Once my room down stairs is done I’ll get another dart board to use.


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Would be worth more with some holes in it.

[mudski]

Or you could give it to me and I'll use it. Limited number collectors. 🥱

$550 and its yours. :)

Would be worth more with some holes in it.

Definitely not.

[mudski]

Wanting to buy a welder..
Something just for the odd job at home.
What have people got and what do you recommend.

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John I bought a Cigweld gas/gas less welder. Cost about $100 a year to rent a gas bottle. It’s cheaper these days to buy outright and just fill it when needed.
Mines not too notch but it has work well for anything I’ve used it for.
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[jay see]

The MST185 is excellent too 8166981669This looks good. It's a MIG Gas/Gasless and MMA/Stick electrode as well as DC TIG welder.

Bunnings have it for $500
John I bought a Cigweld gas/gas less welder. Cost about $100 a year to rent a gas bottle. It’s cheaper these days to buy outright and just fill it when needed.
Mines not too notch but it has work well for anything I’ve used it for.
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Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI see yours is a130 amp. Do you trip your power when using it. Talking to a few welders at work they all said go at least 170 amp.

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[mudski]

I see yours is a130 amp. Do you trip your power when using it. Talking to a few welders at work they all said go at least 170 amp.

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Thats welders talking... I welded 3mm plate on the bull bar with this mig not even on the highest setting and it worked a treat. I'd have to look at the spec on the inside of the access panel on the welder but I think it does up to 5mm. And my house was built in the early 70's, original house wiring, and I have burnt the house down. The breakers didn't go off so its not overloading the system.
The welder was on special somewhere when I got it. It was cheap. But bloody handy. And being Cigweld, they are a good brand so it was a no brainer.
One day I will upgrade with a Tig, not sure if I would use this or not. The welder doesn't get used much at all. I've had the same gas bottle for four years. Lol.

[0-TJ-0]

Thats welders talking... I welded 3mm plate on the bull bar with this mig not even on the highest setting and it worked a treat. I'd have to look at the spec on the inside of the access panel on the welder but I think it does up to 5mm. And my house was built in the early 70's, original house wiring, and I have burnt the house down. The breakers didn't go off so its not overloading the system.
The welder was on special somewhere when I got it. It was cheap. But bloody handy. And being Cigweld, they are a good brand so it was a no brainer.
One day I will upgrade with a Tig, not sure if I would use this or not. The welder doesn't get used much at all. I've had the same gas bottle for four years. Lol.

I've got a tig and am always on the look out for a cheap/good mig. The tig is very handy but a bit tricky to get used too and significantly slower than a mig. I would save your pennies and stick with the mig unless you had a specific job for it or had the cash burning a hole in your pocket.

I'm not a welder though.. So take that with a grain of salt.

[Mickhead]

This looks good. It's a MIG Gas/Gasless and MMA/Stick electrode as well as DC TIG welder.

Bunnings have it for $500I see yours is a130 amp. Do you trip your power when using it. Talking to a few welders at work they all said go at least 170 amp.

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The bossweld MST185 at bunnings costs 500. It is a very good welder. I see industrial suppliers selling these for more dollars..You will need to pay an extra $160 for a tig torch. And $299 for ownership of a d size argon bottle with $99 Swaps when empty. And 20 bucks for a better arc handle. I bought the tig torch. This unit is lift tig which is easy to use but not as good as hf which you will find on higher end tigs. What impressed me about the tig on this unit is that the low end of the amp scale is accurate. You can weld really thin shyt with this. Then I got the TS200 ac dc at a good price with no torch or any accessories... The tig control plug is different. I rang the supplier Dynaweld fully expecting them to tell me to fark off and buy another tig torch, but instead they talked me thru the process and sent me wiring diagrams !
Awesome service.

Take eveyones advice and dont use gasless wire. It is horrible messy crep. My roll went in the bin after using it for 30 seconds.

[jay see]

Honestly I don't think I ever need a tig. I've gone this long without a welder at all. I can always get stuff welded at work if need be. I can pretty much get steel from work cut and bent to whatever size I need, just want something to play around with at home.

Point taken no gasless..

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[mudski]

The MST185 is excellent too 8166981669

Wow! You cat looks exactly like my boy.

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[MB]

A beautiful 24/7 indoor boy too Mr Mark, 8:00pm curfews are keeping us humans in check and dropping casualties finally!



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[PeeBee]

The bossweld MST185 at bunnings costs 500. It is a very good welder. I see industrial suppliers selling these for more dollars..You will need to pay an extra $160 for a tig torch. And $299 for ownership of a d size argon bottle with $99 Swaps when empty. And 20 bucks for a better arc handle. I bought the tig torch. This unit is lift tig which is easy to use but not as good as hf which you will find on higher end tigs. What impressed me about the tig on this unit is that the low end of the amp scale is accurate. You can weld really thin shyt with this. Then I got the TS200 ac dc at a good price with no torch or any accessories... The tig control plug is different. I rang the supplier Dynaweld fully expecting them to tell me to fark off and buy another tig torch, but instead they talked me thru the process and sent me wiring diagrams !
Awesome service.

Take eveyones advice and dont use gasless wire. It is horrible messy crep. My roll went in the bin after using it for 30 seconds.

What are your thoughts on the Rossi brand - this one in particular? garage use only. I have the 130amp mig at the moment , again a Rossi, but even on gas and full power it does not lay a good bead - struggles to get the metal down and its a generally horrible looking result - i am resigned to park it under the bench.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ROSSI-220A-MIG-Welder-TIG-Stick-Gasless-Multi-Process-Arc-Inverter-SMAW-Portable/133314147034?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

[mudski]

A beautiful 24/7 indoor boy too Mr Mark, 8:00pm curfews are keeping us humans in check and dropping casualties finally!



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Yeah 24/7 indoor for sure. That goes for him and his brother.
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[Mickhead]

What are your thoughts on the Rossi brand - this one in particular? garage use only. I have the 130amp mig at the moment , again a Rossi, but even on gas and full power it does not lay a good bead - struggles to get the metal down and its a generally horrible looking result - i am resigned to park it under the bench.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ROSSI-220A-MIG-Welder-TIG-Stick-Gasless-Multi-Process-Arc-Inverter-SMAW-Portable/133314147034?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

Rossi is a Brazilian brand.they are very light, but well built. The crescent stainless buttplate can be nasty with heavy loads. Awesome, 5 stars :)81700

[PeeBee]

Rossi is a Brazilian brand.they are very light, but well built. The crescent stainless buttplate can be nasty with heavy loads. Awesome, 5 stars :)

Thanks but no idea what this means "The crescent stainless buttplate can be nasty with heavy loads. Awesome, 5 stars ??????

[Mickhead]

What are your thoughts on the Rossi brand - this one in particular? garage use only. I have the 130amp mig at the moment , again a Rossi, but even on gas and full power it does not lay a good bead - struggles to get the metal down and its a generally horrible looking result - i am resigned to park it under the bench.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ROSSI-220A-MIG-Welder-TIG-Stick-Gasless-Multi-Process-Arc-Inverter-SMAW-Portable/133314147034?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

Oops wrong Rossi :)

Seriously tho.. had a Rossi ebay inverter mig for a short time, sold it quickly due to horrid feed and lack of support. Rossi is an ebay brand that sounds nice.. like detroit and chicago trying to be milwaukee..

[Mickhead]

Wow! You cat looks exactly like my boy.

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Cats are awesome under rated creatures :) Mine rules the house and the dogs and the man cave :)

[PeeBee]

Seriously tho.. had a Rossi ebay inverter mig for a short time, sold it quickly due to horrid feed and lack of support. Rossi is an ebay brand that sounds nice.. like detroit and chicago trying to be milwaukee..

OK, thanks for clearing that up - thought MB had slipped into the thread! I will have a look at the Bunnings model instead.

[jay see]

Well after some googling and taking in the information from you guys and some of the guys at work. I'm pretty sure that I'm going to go with a 135 amp machine.
Reason for this is the 2 people that have these are happy with them mudski (cigweld) and a guy from work(Michigan). Yes a bigger machine probably would be better, but I need to look at the cost as well, anyway if I need to do big long welds and I can't do them at home, I can always get it done at work.

Thanks guys.

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[MudRunnerTD]

Well after some googling and taking in the information from you guys and some of the guys at work. I'm pretty sure that I'm going to go with a 135 amp machine.
Reason for this is the 2 people that have these are happy with them mudski (cigweld) and a guy from work(Michigan). Yes a bigger machine probably would be better, but I need to look at the cost as well, anyway if I need to do big long welds and I can't do them at home, I can always get it done at work.

Thanks guys.

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Hi amte, i have a 140 too. if i was buying again i would go at least a 170 or 200 just to future proof me.

[mudski]

Well after some googling and taking in the information from you guys and some of the guys at work. I'm pretty sure that I'm going to go with a 135 amp machine.
Reason for this is the 2 people that have these are happy with them mudski (cigweld) and a guy from work(Michigan). Yes a bigger machine probably would be better, but I need to look at the cost as well, anyway if I need to do big long welds and I can't do them at home, I can always get it done at work.

Thanks guys.

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Happy for you to come over, post COVID, and have a play around with my weld if you want. The thing I like about mine it’s not confusing with it’s selections. Wire speed and output voltage selections. Does gaslless too but I have a Cigweld arc welder for that if I need. Bought the trolley on eBay for nix too. Like I said, for what I do and have done. 4wd stuff. It’s been flawless.
Yeah a tig would be great. But I’d very rarely use that I reckon.


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[jay see]

Happy for you to come over, post COVID, and have a play around with my weld if you want. The thing I like about mine it’s not confusing with it’s selections. Wire speed and output voltage selections. Does gaslless too but I have a Cigweld arc welder for that if I need. Bought the trolley on eBay for nix too. Like I said, for what I do and have done. 4wd stuff. It’s been flawless.
Yeah a tig would be great. But I’d very rarely use that I reckon.


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Thanks for the offer Mark, but I want one during this lock down period, probably get one during the week. I don't see the need for a bigger amp machine as long as these do the job and that's all I'm after. As stated earlier if it's a big long heavy weld I can get it done at work and even better by professional welder.

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[mudski]

Thanks for the offer Mark, but I want one during this lock down period, probably get one during the week. I don't see the need for a bigger amp machine as long as these do the job and that's all I'm after. As stated earlier if it's a big long heavy weld I can get it done at work and even better by professional welder.

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Yeah we’ll don’t spend on what you don’t need then. Look on my build thread on the bar work I have done. That’s pretty much the heaviest I will ever do, probably the same for you I will guess, and this welder did it with ease.


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[MB]

By no means a professional welder myself, agricultural at best Jaysee mate. Can offer only some basic advice until you hone your skills on any given machine, they are all different obviously but same same end game bonding metals at the end of the day?
A good mask will help you focus on the material and what your heat/speed is doing left and right and downwards etc...
There is no point making a perfect looking motion bead atop if the material below is not becoming one (Zen Like :-)




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[jay see]

There is no point making a perfect looking motion bead atop if the material below is not becoming one (Zen Like :-)




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You'll be surprised how many times I see this at work when they are giving a new welder a test run.

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[MB]

That’s probably genuine I’m thinking though John Mate! Are they just getting a feel of the new tool before getting stuck into hot work.
Not that I would trust myself to weld on say Vic/Roads approved engine mounts for serious scrutiny but I do try where possible to test my heat & speeds on similar sized plates prior to bastardisation of a paddock implement or two :-)


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[jay see]

They give them a few runs if they can't set the machine to produce a good weld in all aspects they move them on.
Our work is ADR approved so they're gotta know what they're doing.

I'll get some offcuts in different thickness to play around with at home before I attempt anything that requires strength.

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[MB]

Whoops, my bad sorry mate, you meant the man, not the machine :-)


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[Brissieboy]

With the recent discussion on welders, I couldn't resist posting this here. I know it's not the right place, but . . . .:81741

[Mickhead]

With the recent discussion on welders, I couldn't resist posting this here. I know it's not the right place, but . . . .:81741

Unless thats a really bad pic I would be offering an extra 15 bucks per hour to get rid of the undercut and the lack of penetration in weld number 2 :) :)

[Mickhead]

[QUOTE=jay see;807454]Well after some googling and taking in the information from you guys and some of the guys at work. I'm pretty sure that I'm going to go with a 135 amp machine.
Reason for this is the 2 people that have these are happy with them mudski (cigweld) and a guy from work(Michigan). Yes a bigger machine probably would be better, but I need to look at the cost as well, anyway if I need to do big long welds and I can't do them at home, I can always get it done at work.

I went down the cheaper path too first time with the rossi welder. A 130 amp Mig only welder will do anything that needs welding on the pooey. But if it costs 300 bucks to buy, and you have the option of spending another 200 to 300 on a Bossweld / unimig / boc ( cigweld ) unit think hard because if you need the extra power or the ability to tig you will be unhappy. Been there, done that. And a lot of the cheapys have a non removable torch. Avoid this if you can!

[jay see]

[QUOTE=jay see;807454]Well after some googling and taking in the information from you guys and some of the guys at work. I'm pretty sure that I'm going to go with a 135 amp machine.
Reason for this is the 2 people that have these are happy with them mudski (cigweld) and a guy from work(Michigan). Yes a bigger machine probably would be better, but I need to look at the cost as well, anyway if I need to do big long welds and I can't do them at home, I can always get it done at work.

I went down the cheaper path too first time with the rossi welder. A 130 amp Mig only welder will do anything that needs welding on the pooey. But if it costs 300 bucks to buy, and you have the option of spending another 200 to 300 on a Bossweld / unimig / boc ( cigweld ) unit think hard because if you need the extra power or the ability to tig you will be unhappy. Been there, done that. And a lot of the cheapys have a non removable torch. Avoid this if you can!Yeah, too late.

I probably should've posted it here, but check out the happy thread.

I mentioned earlier somewhere that if I need to do bigger longer welds and this machine can't handle it, I can get it done at work by a professional welder and I don't see any need for a tig, well but for me anyway.

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[Mickhead]

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[QUOTE=Mickhead;807742]Yeah, too late.

I probably should've posted it here, but check out the happy thread.

I mentioned earlier somewhere that if I need to do bigger longer welds and this machine can't handle it, I can get it done at work by a professional welder and I don't see any need for a tig, well but for me anyway.

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Looks like it does the job, bit messy with the gasless, Mate, you have way more patience than me .. nice work :) my gasless trial run lasted 30 seconds!

Bet you buy another welder within a year...

Love my tig :) :)

[rusty_nail]

cannot believe what i have seen this arvo. milwaukee have just taken cordless tools to the next level, like seriously...

https://www.totaltools.com.au/152457-milwaukee-68j-28-mm-hex-mx-fueltm-breaker-skin-mxfdh2528h-0?utm_source=edm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=RANGE+REVIEW+Every+Tool+Every+Trade+2 2.8.2020&utm_content=$linkname$&sc_src=email_320386&sc_lid=16656916&sc_uid=qizrFhLAZh&sc_llid=26709&sc_eh=10430dbf2598207a1

[Winnie]

The whole range of mx fuel tools are absolutely insane.

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[jay see]

The latest additions.

Battery was a $85 market place buy.http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/09/81.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/09/82.jpg

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[PeeBee]

What are your thoughts on the Rossi brand - this one in particular? garage use only. I have the 130amp mig at the moment , again a Rossi, but even on gas and full power it does not lay a good bead - struggles to get the metal down and its a generally horrible looking result - i am resigned to park it under the bench.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ROSSI-220A-MIG-Welder-TIG-Stick-Gasless-Multi-Process-Arc-Inverter-SMAW-Portable/133314147034?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

Update - I finally got to the bottom of my Rossi 130amp MIG and its weld issues. After many emails back and forth the supplier finally admitted the welder was not as advertised however its my responsibility to see thru the information and do my own research - Yep, what a process. the welder is specifically sold for metal, mild steel, stainless, gas or gasless. Problem is the description is basically a cut and paste from other welders as the distributor is simply a wholesaler, which explains why it took so long to get to the bottom of the issue.
To weld MS and SS with a MIG you need a DC welder. This unit is AC. AC is good only for Aluminum, gas or gasless. The distributor has wiped his hands of the issue, its mine now. The welder was purchased off EBAY from EDISONS. Don't trust this seller. Won't take it back, won't refund the cost and won't even entertain a return and upgrade to a welder that actually will do what the advert says. Very pissed off, but there is nowhere to go to appeal.

At least it confirms it wasn't operator error - this time!!

[jack]

PeeBee regarding the welder, not sure but if you paid via PayPal you may be able to escalate. I think you have 180 days.

[Winnie]

Update - I finally got to the bottom of my Rossi 130amp MIG and its weld issues. After many emails back and forth the supplier finally admitted the welder was not as advertised however its my responsibility to see thru the information and do my own research - Yep, what a process. the welder is specifically sold for metal, mild steel, stainless, gas or gasless. Problem is the description is basically a cut and paste from other welders as the distributor is simply a wholesaler, which explains why it took so long to get to the bottom of the issue.
To weld MS and SS with a MIG you need a DC welder. This unit is AC. AC is good only for Aluminum, gas or gasless. The distributor has wiped his hands of the issue, its mine now. The welder was purchased off EBAY from EDISONS. Don't trust this seller. Won't take it back, won't refund the cost and won't even entertain a return and upgrade to a welder that actually will do what the advert says. Very pissed off, but there is nowhere to go to appeal.

At least it confirms it wasn't operator error - this time!!Escalate it with ebay, if no luck there then escalate with PayPal.
EBay generally react in a couple of days, PayPal take a couple of months.

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[rusty_nail]

Escalate it with ebay, if no luck there then escalate with PayPal.
EBay generally react in a couple of days, PayPal take a couple of months.

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[PeeBee]

That's right, but I have never had a case not go my way. If the seller refuses to respond to your PayPal case, eventually PayPal will just automatically return the money to you.

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Thanks guys, I am dead in the water. Unfortunately, working a FIFO roster, I never even opened thebox for 12 months and it was purchased in Nov 2018. Its been used for exactly 1.5 kg of gas and 10ft of gasless wire. I am resigned to either sticking it back under the bench or put it om Gumtree. I guess I could have a crack at aluminium welding - that would be a new one for me! Still disappointing though. Looking at a CIG 200amp unit now

[Mickhead]

Update - I finally got to the bottom of my Rossi 130amp MIG and its weld issues. After many emails back and forth the supplier finally admitted the welder was not as advertised however its my responsibility to see thru the information and do my own research - Yep, what a process. the welder is specifically sold for metal, mild steel, stainless, gas or gasless. Problem is the description is basically a cut and paste from other welders as the distributor is simply a wholesaler, which explains why it took so long to get to the bottom of the issue.
To weld MS and SS with a MIG you need a DC welder. This unit is AC. AC is good only for Aluminum, gas or gasless. The distributor has wiped his hands of the issue, its mine now. The welder was purchased off EBAY from EDISONS. Don't trust this seller. Won't take it back, won't refund the cost and won't even entertain a return and upgrade to a welder that actually will do what the advert says. Very pissed off, but there is nowhere to go to appeal.

At least it confirms it wasn't operator error - this time!!

Ho Lee Fuk... the seller has no idea what he is selling. Bet he has gimp masks, herbal tea strainers, 10000000000000 lumen light bars,
and butt plugs for sale in his store too...if your link is accurate what you have there is a cheap inverter welder. It is DC. So it should weld ferrous metal and staino.
What exactly is the issue? My short lived rossi had shitful wire feed issues. It welded like a karrnt. Buy the Bossweld mst180 from bunnings for 500, if it dont work bring it back for a refund and feel free to abuse the fuk out of me.

[PeeBee]

Ho Lee Fuk... the seller has no idea what he is selling. Bet he has gimp masks, herbal tea strainers, 10000000000000 lumen light bars,
and butt plugs for sale in his store too...if your link is accurate what you have there is a cheap inverter welder. It is DC. So it should weld ferrous metal and staino.
What exactly is the issue? My short lived rossi had shitful wire feed issues. It welded like a karrnt. Buy the Bossweld mst180 from bunnings for 500, if it dont work bring it back for a refund and feel free to abuse the fuk out of me.

Yeah disappointing and they are clueless. Its definitely AC. I was having trouble with the gasless wire, so decided to try with gas. Read 'somewhere in their paperwork the polarity need to be changed from DCEN to DCEP so after a number of messages to them finally goy a procedure, did the change, which is a swap around of two cables, but takes 45 minutes to by the time you get covers on and off, work out the orientation etc - did not make a cracker of a difference. I went back to them for help and they confirmed the machine is supplied set up for gas, change ir back, still no difference, went back again, no, it comes set up for gasless, changed it back, no difference, then after final contact, told i had bought an AC welder and it wont weld mild steel or stainless, only aluminum. Changing the cables wont make a difference on AC but will on DC - yeah i understand that!!! The advert says mild and stainless, nothing about aluminum. Its a cheapie I know, but I only had a job of maybe 5ft of weld to do and am generally competent enough on my two arc welders. Just pissed at the misleading advertising then the FU its your.

I will have a look at the Bunnings unit as you suggest, just want something that i can pick up after an extended break from it and not have to dive into a manual of find out some fine print issue i 'should' have known. Anyway, suggest people stay away from edison's unless they are buying something like a hammer or a screwdriver - anything more technical and they are lost.

[rusty_nail]

Just asked my professional welder neighbour, he says it's definitely a DC welder but will not weld ally.

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[PeeBee]

Just asked my professional welder neighbour, he says it's definitely a DC welder but will not weld ally.

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Nic, here is the link , scroll down to the additional info section, states it welds all metals including copper??? but nothing about aluminum and clearly states its an AC welder, down the bottom on LH side. Right now I am rapidly losing interest in it. You couldn't weld two jam donuts together with it, its rubbish.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/142478732660

[MB]

A quick word of Milwaukee 18v warning good folks!
Don’t connect your 12AH High Output Chainsaw batteries onto your old brushed faithful 18v old school grinders and the like, they don’t appear to appreciate it they’re smelling me :-)


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[Cremulator]

Nic, here is the link , scroll down to the additional info section, states it welds all metals including copper??? but nothing about aluminum and clearly states its an AC welder, down the bottom on LH side. Right now I am rapidly losing interest in it. You couldn't weld two jam donuts together with it, its rubbish.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/142478732660If it's still advertised incorrectly you could raise it with ACCC as misleading you.

[PeeBee]

If it's still advertised incorrectly you could raise it with ACCC as misleading you.

Yeah, I am licking my wounds still so will see.

[Mickhead]

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Nic, here is the link , scroll down to the additio5nal info section, states it welds all metals including copper??? but nothing about aluminum and clearly states its an AC welder, down the bottom on LH side. Right now I am rapidly losing interest in it. You couldn't weld two jam donuts together with it, its rubbish.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/142478732660

Thats a different link, looks like an ac welder, but i think 30 years ago migs were ac and they still worked? On mild steel, no dramas.
No way will that weld ally :)

Sorry about the double pics, cant figure out to fix that :)

[PeeBee]

This link I posted is of the exact POS. Here is the absolute best quality I could achieve. Not even close to acceptable.82047 It won't do what it is marketed to do - end of story.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/142478732660

[MB]

A quick word of Milwaukee 18v warning good folks!
Don’t connect your 12AH High Output Chainsaw batteries onto your old brushed faithful 18v old school grinders and the like, they don’t appear to appreciate it they’re smelling me :-)


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Next level this ‘Brushless’ advancement replacement, absolutely LOVE IT :-) [emoji106][emoji106]
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/10/103.jpg
Seriously thinking policie checks should be in order for purchasing these beauties, anyone with an un-armed robbery break-in record should be completely black banned :-)


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[MudRunnerTD]

This link I posted is of the exact POS. Here is the absolute best quality I could achieve. Not even close to acceptable.82047 It won't do what it is marketed to do - end of story.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/142478732660

Are you using gas or gas less there. That is the welder I have but in a 170amp. Lays an OK weld. Also. What is the material thickness there? It looks like 12mm plate or something. The 130a will struggle to penetrative that.

[MudRunnerTD]

Sorry it is a 155 Rossi. Appears to be a better model based solely on the case.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/10/109.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/10/110.jpg

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[PeeBee]

Daz, couple of things. The 130a Rossi is an AC machine. This is a crap alternative to a DC, that you have. the DC will give better weld quality hands down, less spatter and greater controllability. The weld penetration is simply a factor of amperage, generation of a weld pool resultant on the heat directed at the weld site. The wire feed-rate is the delivery agent of the arc and the filler of the void. The plate thickness has little to do with it. These plates were maybe 8mm and they were also vee prepped. The welds simply sat on the top of the steel in essence. These welds were done using gas immersion.

On an earlier sample i did a sectional cut and the penetration was marginal at best, really cocky shit. These were the absolute best quality I could wring out of that welder, even using an argon heavy gas, not straight CO2. I could not get anywhere near what you show in your images. Gasless was a straight out failure. I went back to the Rossi agents regards tech assistance to improve the outcome and got no help at all. Then, they argued the toss about the validity of the info in their advert, which was incorrect and misleading in the main, so for me, I don't think I can bring myself to support their product line again, at any stated cost of perception of quality. maybe if I knew I was buying a machine with significant limitations i would own the issue, but there was so much incorrect info furnished by them, waste of my time and general dismissal of there being an issue, well, GOOD BYE ROSSI.

I am sure a skilled tradesman who does this task every day, will find the sweet spot. the guy who bought it is a high pressure vessel welder, and we wanted a small unit for light welding of exhaust systems. his skillset is better suited to this machine than mine. If i got the quality you presented i would have been happy.

I am going to go with a CIGWELD machine moving forward, most likely the unit mentioned earlier. At circa$750 its an expensive bit of gear to sit under the bench, but my CIG Professional Arc Welder saw 30 odd years service, at times quite brutal and duty cycle overloading and it survived.

[MudRunnerTD]

Fair call mate. Just after those photos I ran out of wire damn it. Oh I have a spare! Winner. Turns out it was unlabled and was the Gasless wire that came with the unit. OMFG. PUSS. 2cm of weld and I was done. Junk. Went a bought a new real. The gassless is going in the bin.

[nissannewby]

Fair call mate. Just after those photos I ran out of wire damn it. Oh I have a spare! Winner. Turns out it was unlabled and was the Gasless wire that came with the unit. OMFG. PUSS. 2cm of weld and I was done. Junk. Went a bought a new real. The gassless is going in the bin.

Don't throw it out. You need to reverse the polarity when using gasless.

[PeeBee]

Don't throw it out. You need to reverse the polarity when using gasless.

Matt, this would be the case if it was a DC welder. It is an AC welder and according to ROSSI isn't necessary, despite having been told by 2 of their sales people exactly the same thing, 'change the polarity - how do i do that - here are some photos of what you do', so this and that, made no difference. Also, ROSSI told me the machine is supplied from the factory configured for gasless, no wait, its configured for gas, no, its gasless, anyway you don't need to do anything, its a ripper machine, and being AC, doesn't matter. They lost me at that point, as really, for the price point and the number of times I would have used it, it suited my needs. Now, as some things align, my brilliant CIGWELD arc welder went to heaven last week, so I am without my go to heavy duty cycle welder, so the little solid state inverter arc welder I have will suffice until the CIGWELD unit arrives. Been quite frustrating in the least.

[PeeBee]

Fair call mate. Just after those photos I ran out of wire damn it. Oh I have a spare! Winner. Turns out it was unlabled and was the Gasless wire that came with the unit. OMFG. PUSS. 2cm of weld and I was done. Junk. Went a bought a new real. The gassless is going in the bin.

LOL. Its funny Darren, we have a gasless unit on site and we drag it out from time to time when its a simple pain to get gas bottles upstairs into the plant where there is no lift. We have a pool of boilermakers from Dawsons and to be honest, they could probably weld using chopsticks they are that good. I have seen welds laid by guys up there on SS316/SAF2507 and 904L, acid affected as well, that are absolute works of art, verticals, overheads, just head shaking unbelievable. My little 24/36V Rediwelder runs flux core and it lays a good bead, but dragging the batteries out of the truck to do it, nope, not happening.

[MudRunnerTD]

Don't throw it out. You need to reverse the polarity when using gasless.

Ha! Yes I remember that...... now. Hahaha.

Good to know you are lurking mate. I hope life is great for you.

[MB]

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We bought this old 3 Phasey generator for off grid paid yard work plans a year or so ago for a steal and won’t be using it down there anymore.
Have brought it on home for storage and pondering whether it could be worth fixing up/commissioning for two home issues in the hills?
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1) Grid power is horrific up here and underground 150m pole power to my shed sees a max of 180amp settings on my Mig welder for thick plates although is capable of 250amps :-(

2) Regular day/week long power outages to the house occur, windy nights & lightning we’re living like the 1900’s at times :-)

Would it be worthwhile getting this old beast up and running to power a serious welder on weekend warrior tasks and doubling up as a backup for converter boxy 2 phase house running in times of need?

Scratching my head thinking a decent diesel backup genset for house and smaller diesel powered welder for shed but somehow nuffy thinking too that it’s already possible off this already purchased donk maybe?

Cheers Mark!



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Electrically & Electronically challenged, may need some advice again pretty please NP.com.au Team [emoji120][emoji106]
We bought this old 3 Phasey generator for off grid paid yard work plans a year or so ago for a steal and won’t be using it down there anymore.
Have brought it on home for storage and pondering whether it could be worth fixing up/commissioning for two home issues in the hills?
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/10/130.jpg
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/10/131.jpg
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/10/132.jpg
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/10/133.jpg

1) Grid power is horrific up here and underground 150m pole power to my shed sees a max of 180amp settings on my Mig welder for thick plates although is capable of 250amps :-(

2) Regular day/week long power outages to the house occur, windy nights & lightning we’re living like the 1900’s at times :-)

Would it be worthwhile getting this old beast up and running to power a serious welder on weekend warrior tasks and doubling up as a backup for converter boxy 2 phase house running in times of need?

Scratching my head thinking a decent diesel backup genset for house and smaller diesel powered welder for shed but somehow nuffy thinking too that it’s already possible off this already purchased donk maybe?

Cheers Mark!



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That looks like a Beast mate. mattfew will be all over that brother. It would be awesome if you can rig it up on an Auto start relay so it just starts like a UPS system. Killa. Also, instant 3 phase sounds like a very very cheap way to get 3 phase at home!

[MB]

I’ve given up on poor old busy matfew these days mate, been working under a dark lightless shed mezzanine for an eternity now awaiting [emoji23][emoji106]


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I’ve given up on poor old busy matfew these days mate, been working under a dark lightless shed mezzanine for an eternity now awaiting [emoji23][emoji106]


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Yeah poor bugger is getting hammered. Spends a heapnof time in Gippsland. I was able to wrangle a day to get some lights in the shed, still a temporary connection but way better than an extension lead and split to 4 separate distribution boxes. Not ideal. I felt bad knowing he was away so much but needing him for another day away from his family. Killer.

I reckon he can guide you with some options for that jigger though mate.

[MB]

We speak regularly, off Facey platforms, voice to voice [emoji23]
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bahahaha I keep thinking of it bro. I will have a weekend pencilled in very soon for you. Winter wood rush is over. Cattle work next weekend I think but should be able to work something.


As for the gen we can work some magic with it. Wont be simple to do but possible. You don't have 3 phase at home do you? It's very possible to setup. Auto start might be tricky but with the right controller its possible.

I'll give ya a call tomorrow to work out.

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Mark, I have been down this path with a project at the mine when I was there the first time. What looked simple ended up causing some issues in the details.

1) the generator you have is incomplete or do you have the radiator and an aux fuel tank for it? You may also be up for containment bund in case the fuel tank ruptures, and a fire suppression system - again I don't know what the local regs are for this. I had to install a triple brick wall 3m high and an IR detector for hot spot detection and a sprinkler system, but it is a minesite and was located immediately adjacent to a brand new medical clinic i built so had to be as safe as possible.
2) is its output 415V only or does it already have 240V take-off? I am guessing you might want the flexibility of a 3 phase outlet perhaps, then acouple of higher amperage GPO's ?
3) voltage brown-out detection is fairly mature technology so that would be easy - integration of this power supply into your house supply may be trickier regards local regs - I am not an electrical engineer, and doing things on a mine site are totally different, so we had to have an entirely new, stand alone sub board that fed into the existing 'house board', and then ran into earthing trips between the two systems - something called an MEN link from memory as the potentials of the genset to earth and the 'house ' to earth were different - its a while ago, but it was resolved eventually. The genset i used was a 10kva 240V genset, so we didn't have to stuff around with taking load off individual phases. I think it was around 12K from memory.
4) you have already mentioned the feed from the underground service being a bottleneck, so I would think you may be up for an upgrade if the cable is not up to the rated capacity of the genset. Location of the genset closest to the highest draw would make sense, so either way you are going to have a long cable run, but then you might say the most frequent use is for house power loss as against the powering of the welder.
5) I am wondering if this is best resolved via a conversation with a remote power grid supplier, simple candid discussion, maybe some opportunity to get them involved down the track in some way, but I would have the length of run from the house in hand, the incoming power capacity you have now and what the size of the cable is from house to shed, and breaker sizes in that sub board, the config of the portable unit also, on hand so it builds a quick and dirty picture. They may come back and recommend the genset as shed only for example? Or if hunting for work come out and give you a proposal. Either way, I think there is going to be a bit of money needed to spend. Not easy.

The capacity of the unit looks good though if you can make it work - really does need a sparky to appraise and resolve though. I am lucky at my place as have 3 x 80amp supplies to the house, so my garage has 80amp 415 which is broken down to 40amp sockets and then a big 240V outlet for the welder as well. When the estate transformer used to go out in the early days, we only ever lost 1/3 of the house, whilst the rest of the neighbor's lost every 3rd home - bit like a cheshire cat in 45 degC with the lights and a/c blaring!

Just saw Matty's reply, so leave it to him.