Turbo Upgrades for the GUIV TD42Ti

[MudRunnerTD]

OK Guys, I am in the market for a Turbo for the GU and keen to hear what everyone thinks will work for me.

So I'm keen to find a little more power. Control the heat and EGTs and give me good power for towing the camper.

Options I am seriously considering include

Cross Country Ultimate intercooler
Mamba 18g 6cm I think?
UFI 18g 6cm I think?
Borg Warner something???
Swapping diff ratios to 4.3s from 3.9s ( anyone have any they want to sell?)
Hi flow injectors
Inline pump.


Is 18g X 6cm the right setup? I understand it will boost fairly early so good for towing.

I'm keen Not to upgrade the pump. I might need a clutch though?

Hoping to see somewhere around 140 to 160 rwkw. Currently pushing about 95rwkw

Cheers guys

[nissannewby]

Anyone??...

[MB]

PM already sent for 4.3s possible off mate Daz!

[AB]

I heard those BorgWarner 6758's are ideal and might be just what you're chasing old mate ;)

[nissannewby]

Oh alright then.

Very easy for the turbo mate. Borg Warner EFR6758 with T25 0.64 A/R turbine housing. Im not a fan of top mounts but that is up to you and it will do the job at your desired power levels. Dont bother with the cheap junk.

If you are going to stick with your current tyre size I would only go to 4.11 ratios. This will also make your search a lot easier as they are a dime a dozen. 4.3 ratios are hard to come by.

No such thing as "Hi Flow" injectors. The injectors will deliver what they pump puts out. I would just get yours reco or exchanged and set to standard pressures. A lift pump is also highly recommended and I will give you the same recommendation as winnie, Carter 4600 or 4601.

The clutch should be ok for your desired power levels which you may have to lower your expecatations a little. I think you will be lucky to see 130rwkw. 160 is out of the question

[Winnie]

Hey Daz, I really don't think you will see 140kw out of your pump mate. If you're getting around 120kw then the standard clutch should be able to cope.
120kw makes a really good tow vehicle, but there will always be a little part of you that knows how much more you can get and you will probably end up doing it... Lol

I have the cross country intercooler and I do rate it as a good bit of gear and the best part is it is all in kit form and is super easy to install.
However if I had my time again I would go with a front mount cooler. It makes the job harder but I think they do a better job and you would save a bucket load of cash. (more money towards the 12mm pump)!

[Ben-e-boy]

Anyone??...

Lol..... who???

[MB]

Why the 'Three Musketeers' of course :-)
Don't drive down this time though, easier to fly here!
https://youtu.be/wru7XVriBdQ
Just jokes, you blokes really do know your stuff ;-)

[MudRunnerTD]

Oh alright then.

Very easy for the turbo mate. Borg Warner EFR6758 with T25 0.64 A/R turbine housing. Im not a fan of top mounts but that is up to you and it will do the job at your desired power levels. Dont bother with the cheap junk.

If you are going to stick with your current tyre size I would only go to 4.11 ratios. This will also make your search a lot easier as they are a dime a dozen. 4.3 ratios are hard to come by.

No such thing as "Hi Flow" injectors. The injectors will deliver what they pump puts out. I would just get yours reco or exchanged and set to standard pressures. A lift pump is also highly recommended and I will give you the same recommendation as winnie, Carter 4600 or 4601.

The clutch should be ok for your desired power levels which you may have to lower your expecatations a little. I think you will be lucky to see 130rwkw. 160 is out of the question

Thanks Matty, some dude sent me a pm said nearlly exactly the same thing so I reckon your onto something mate.

I'm Pretty keen on the 4.3 ratios and I might have found some. The inline pump was the 4601 as you discussed in Winnie's Thread for sure.

So the hiflow injectors I thought would have an increased CC input flow and would be advantageous? I understand though if the pump is not asking for the flow then it's pointless.

My Clutch is the original clutch and has 265k on it and I assume it's at end of life but will only change it when it tells me it's knackered.

Given I am not looking for big KWs is the Mamba really that bad an idea? There is a bit of cash involved so a massive saving there is attractive. What is the BW likely to cost me? Pm if you like. Can you help me source this? Given the UFI are well regarded is this worth considering and $ for $ will it be as good as the BW?

Winnie I'm pretty keen to stay with a Top Mount as I already have a hole in the bonnet so a bigger hole will work for me. I reckon the Fairline scoops look Sik too. But if there is big coin to save then I could be convinced that a Front mount will work and leave the scoop there for Ventilation.

Hodge do you have a bigger Turbo on yours mate?

[Stropp]

OK Guys, I am in the market for a Turbo for the GU and keen to hear what everyone thinks will work for me.

So I'm keen to find a little more power. Control the heat and EGTs and give me good power for towing the camper.

Options I am seriously considering include

Cross Country Ultimate intercooler
Mamba 18g 6cm I think?
UFI 18g 6cm I think?
Borg Warner something???
Swapping diff ratios to 4.3s from 3.9s ( anyone have any they want to sell?)
Hi flow injectors
Inline pump.


Is 18g X 6cm the right setup? I understand it will boost fairly early so good for towing.

I'm keen Not to upgrade the pump. I might need a clutch though?

Hoping to see somewhere around 140 to 160 rwkw. Currently pushing about 95rwkw

Cheers guys

hi Darren, i have 4.3 ratio's and they suit me well, brunswick diesels if you cant get any in victoria have lots of 4.3 as they use a 3.9 when fitting the 6.5 chev so if you dont mind paying freight they will sell you some then credit you when you send them your 3.9's
cheers stropp

[nissannewby]

Thanks Matty, some dude sent me a pm said nearlly exactly the same thing so I reckon your onto something mate.

I'm Pretty keen on the 4.3 ratios and I might have found some. The inline pump was the 4601 as you discussed in Winnie's Thread for sure.

So the hiflow injectors I thought would have an increased CC input flow and would be advantageous? I understand though if the pump is not asking for the flow then it's pointless.

My Clutch is the original clutch and has 265k on it and I assume it's at end of life but will only change it when it tells me it's knackered.

Given I am not looking for big KWs is the Mamba really that bad an idea? There is a bit of cash involved so a massive saving there is attractive. What is the BW likely to cost me? Pm if you like. Can you help me source this? Given the UFI are well regarded is this worth considering and $ for $ will it be as good as the BW?

Winnie I'm pretty keen to stay with a Top Mount as I already have a hole in the bonnet so a bigger hole will work for me. I reckon the Fairline scoops look Sik too. But if there is big coin to save then I could be convinced that a Front mount will work and leave the scoop there for Ventilation.

Hodge do you have a bigger Turbo on yours mate?

I dont know who is giving you this "Hi Flow" Injector idea but let it go. The pump determines the CC's delivered not the injectors. The injectors are just a valve really that is set to open at a given pressure that is all.

Yeah you will just have to see with the clutch. It might be alright but then it may also slip. Some standard clutches seem to hang on fairly well others dont.

Forget the cheap junk mate, dont even bother. I dont chase big kws either only torque and this where the Borg warner really shines. Andy could tell you nearly exact costings but it will be 2500-3000 likely. The ufi is a good product but it should be. The Borg Warner is loaded with features that none of the others in your list even come close to. You only have to look at Andys last tune where he was only producing 160rwkw but a massive 784nm. Show me other setups with those sorts of figures? The vast majority with that amount of torque will be hovering around the 200rwkw mark. The Borg Warner is aiding the results a lot as it responds super fast but also has the volume to boot. this means we can burn all the fuel being thrown in early and create a nice torque rise and curve. It is the way I would be going.

[MB]

Peter mentioned the exact same thing about 'Hi-Flow' injectors I was looking at advertised for the dreaded 6.5NA. Said is was a crock also mate. Why are these buggers pushing it so hard, I do entrust in your blokes skills, seen it in action and felt the whiplash :-) !

[MB]

BTW, I definitely didn't suggest HF injectors to Daz:-)

[AB]

I think a bit over 2k for the BW Dazz plus a couple or more hundred for t5 adaptor, larger actuator, short bracket and other goodies so more on the 2.5k mark.

[MudRunnerTD]

Thanks guys, AB i thought you got new injectors for your setup that were a bigger CC? I thought id heard that from someone else too. All good, money in my pocket. :)

Stropp, I will be all over that for sure mate! That could be a real winner.

Thanks Matty, Im likely the BW idea a lot.

Winnie Holy Sh1t mate the Front mount stuff is cheap as chips!!! Might buy a Bonnet off a 4.8 and get rid of the bonnet scoop completely.

[nissannewby]

Thanks guys, AB i thought you got new injectors for your setup that were a bigger CC? I thought id heard that from someone else too. All good, money in my pocket. :)

Stropp, I will be all over that for sure mate! That could be a real winner.

Thanks Matty, Im likely the BW idea a lot.

Winnie Holy Sh1t mate the Front mount stuff is cheap as chips!!! Might buy a Bonnet off a 4.8 and get rid of the bonnet scoop completely.


Andy got Reco injectors which were set to a slightly higher crack pressure. They also used to nozzles that are used on the T engines.

[AB]

I purchased high flow injectors Dazz which are soooo good but they stopped making them last month ;)

[MudRunnerTD]

^^^^^ Shit Head ^^^^^

[Winnie]

I purchased high flow injectors Dazz which are soooo good but they stopped making them last month ;)
I scooped in just in time! Would not have good such a good result without them. Bloody glad I wasn't a few weeks late really!

[Hodge]

Watching this thread with much interest.

[Hodge]

@Hodge (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/member.php?u=15680) do you have a bigger Turbo on yours mate?

Hey Daz.
No mate. The only upgrades I have are the CC intercooler/scoop and a JPC high flow water pump all with a good tune.
But,as per my previous post I am watching the thread with much interest!

Also, I will add, the CC intercooler tamed the EGT's big time and gained a couple of ponies with it too. Pricey, but good investment.

Have you also considered a bigger air intake ?

[MudRunnerTD]

Hey Daz.
No mate. The only upgrades I have are the CC intercooler/scoop and a JPC high flow water pump all with a good tune.
But,as per my previous post I am watching the thread with much interest!

Also, I will add, the CC intercooler tamed the EGT's big time and gained a couple of ponies with it too. Pricey, but good investment.

Have you also considered a bigger air intake ?

Hi mate, no I haven't considered intake mods really. I have a billet air box lid with a cobra head which I got off Stropp when he upgraded his airbox. Stropp did you do your airbox upgrade as a stand alone mod? Did you notice a huge change? What snorkel have you got feeding it?

Eric what sort of power did you make with your tune?

[MudRunnerTD]

I think a bit over 2k for the BW Dazz plus a couple or more hundred for t5 adaptor, larger actuator, short bracket and other goodies so more on the 2.5k mark.

Can you help me with a parts list and where to get all that mate. When the time comes I need to not loose any time parked up as it's the Daily for Naomi and I can afford to not have everything I need to bolt up and go.

[Kimbo63]

PM already sent for 4.3s possible off mate Daz!
Hi daz my diff / diff gears are of my 2.8 litre and are 4.625:1 the 4.375:1 gears you are after are from the 3 litre autos
Cheers Kimbo

[MudRunnerTD]

Hi daz my diff / diff gears are of my 2.8 litre and are 4.625:1 the 4.375:1 gears you are after are from the 3 litre autos
Cheers Kimbo

Thanks Kimbo. You should get good coin for the 4.6s mate, everyone wants them.

[AB]

Can you help me with a parts list and where to get all that mate. When the time comes I need to not loose any time parked up as it's the Daily for Naomi and I can afford to not have everything I need to bolt up and go. Sure no probs

[Hodge]

Eric what sort of power did you make with your tune?

I went up from 75kW to about 100kW with just a tune after fitting a 3" exhaust.
Then after fitting the CC intercooler they easily reached 115-120kW, but apparently the car was gasping for air at that stage or beyond.
The standard HT18 was at its peak range so they suggested if I want more, I'd need a better turbo and/or open up the air intake.
The IP was also a limiting factor.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=69595&stc=1

[Winnie]

When you do this work Darren I would suggest to take it to diesel tech for a tune up. I don't think the tune you had was very good.

[AB]

This what you need Dazz, this is from GCG but shop around as prices have come up a bit...

Try out Eastern Turbo Chargers in bayswater and MTQ

You may need a short bracket for the actuator but I have one here for you.

Are you going to upgrade your airbox too?

Borg Warner EFR6758 Turbocharger T25/V-Band
(http://gcg.com.au/petrol-performance/performance-1/borg-warner-turbochargers/borg-warner-efr6758-turbocharger-t25-v-band-detail)Turbine Outlet Flange Borg Warner EFR Series This is for the 3" dump pipe (http://gcg.com.au/petrol-performance/performance-4/turbo-flanges/turbine-housing-outlet/gcg-turbine-housing-outlet-v-band-flange-borg-warner-efr-series-detail)
(http://gcg.com.au/petrol-performance/performance-1/borg-warner-turbochargers/borg-warner-efr6758-turbocharger-t25-v-band-detail)V-Band Clamp 3.0" GT30/GT35/T04Z/EFR/GTW
(http://gcg.com.au/petrol-performance/performance-4/v-band-clamps/v-band-clamp-gt-gtx30-gt-gtx35-gtw-t04z-efr-turbine-housing-outlet-detail) Turbine Inlet Flange Adaptor T25 to T3
(http://gcg.com.au/petrol-performance/performance-4/turbo-flanges/turbine-housing-inlet/turbine-inlet-flange-adaptor-t25-to-t3-detail)Base Gasket T25/T28 Multi Layer
(http://gcg.com.au/petrol-performance/performance-4/turbo-gaskets/turbine-inlet-gasket-multi-layer-t25-t28-detail)Base Gasket T3 Multi Layer (http://gcg.com.au/petrol-performance/performance-4/turbo-gaskets/turbine-inlet-gasket-multi-layer-t3-single-entry-detail)


I originally bought this oil drain but it's not ideal and ended up getting an ID drain of 15mm from Eastern Turbo in Bayswater for much better flow.

(http://gcg.com.au/petrol-performance/performance-3/oil-drain-fittings/garrett-gt-38mm-hole-centres/oil-drain-kit-gt-gtx-series-19mm-hose-detail)

[AB]

Just make sure you get 38mm bolt spacing for the oil drain and gasket.

I think I also have a set of M8 x 1.25 studs too.

Then Pirtek is your new friend in plumbing it up and I can help you there too with exact fittings and lengths, etc.

[AB]

Actually if you see my current build on the new block you can see what I have done.

I used the OEM water drain from the HT18 into the thermostat and had the steel line flared to fix to a T piece I bought, or you could just run a braided line all the way but I liked the OEM steel line which uses the clips to hold onto the rocker cover fixings and you can go straight up to the rocker and along to the thermostat housing.

Oil drain is self explanatory but make sure it has a nice angled gravity flow into the block and make sure you get that 15mm ID oil drain.

Water feed, you could use your OEM feed into the block and mod that or might just be easier to make up a braided line as below, new line would be better. I used the coolant drain but you should/could use the OEM water port on the other side of the oil relief valve.

Oil feed, I didn't have the OEM fittings, you could mod that but would be better to start again with braided line from the block, I think M10 x 1.5?

My water drain is a bit ugly, braided would look nicer if you're a sensitive new aged materialistic princess?

Work out your lengths, fittings and your chosen paths and just take it all to Pirtek mate, easy!

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=69531&d=1477299758

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=69530&d=1477299737

[Stropp]

Hi mate, no I haven't considered intake mods really. I have a billet air box lid with a cobra head which I got off Stropp when he upgraded his airbox. Stropp did you do your airbox upgrade as a stand alone mod? Did you notice a huge change? What snorkel have you got feeding it?

hi darren, i had that cobra head etc when i did the turbo upgrade but have gone now to 4"ss and fatz airbox, there was a bit of difference when i had the original setup on but the 4" you can definately feel and hear the spool up quicker

[AB]

Don't forget to put a little bit of oil in the oil feed area of the turbo before hooking up oil feed too.

Failing that, crank engine a few times without engine starting to get oil in...

[MudRunnerTD]

hi darren, i had that cobra head etc when i did the turbo upgrade but have gone now to 4"ss and fatz airbox, there was a bit of difference when i had the original setup on but the 4" you can definately feel and hear the spool up quicker

Did you swap your snorkel for a 4" too or just the airbox? I am running your old cobra head and certainly felt a difference. Concerned that a bigger airbox will be limited by the snorkel

[MudRunnerTD]

Don't forget to put a little bit of oil in the oil feed area of the turbo before hooking up oil feed too.

Failing that, crank engine a few times without engine starting to get oil in...

Very helpful mate, this thread is becoming a great reference thread. We will chat further thank you.

[MudRunnerTD]

I went up from 75kW to about 100kW with just a tune after fitting a 3" exhaust.
Then after fitting the CC intercooler they easily reached 115-120kW, but apparently the car was gasping for air at that stage or beyond.
The standard HT18 was at its peak range so they suggested if I want more, I'd need a better turbo and/or open up the air intake.
The IP was also a limiting factor.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=69595&stc=1

Eric were your before and after Dyno runs on the same Dyno? A 20kw increase surprises me? Bloody impressive! How are your EGTs?

[Stropp]

Did you swap your snorkel for a 4" too or just the airbox? I am running your old cobra head and certainly felt a difference. Concerned that a bigger airbox will be limited by the snorkel

Yes did both and Definately felt the difference

[MudRunnerTD]

Yes did both and Definately felt the difference

Thanks Stropp, could you post a couple of pics of your snorkel and airbag mate. I have sent Fatz a pm. Did the snorkel use the same penetration through the panel? have you retained your dual battery? did you run a bigger conduit inside the guard?

[Hodge]

Eric were your before and after Dyno runs on the same Dyno? A 20kw increase surprises me? Bloody impressive! How are your EGTs?


On the same Dyno mate. The increase surprised me as well. Unless they didn't push the car enough the first time before the intercooler. I don't know. The power is backed off a little, due to, as I said the motor was gasping for air at that power level.

EGT's. Where I used to see and creep up to 500C lugging it up a long hill, now it just scratches 400C, it sometimes goes to 425-450 but thats flogging it. Usual around town driving, like on the ring road for example, where I constantly used to see 300-350, after the intercooler upgrade the gauge doesn't even register any more unless I absolutely flog it.

Also a little hint if and when you DO order the CC intercooler.
Make absolutely sure they understand the exact model of car you have. Because although the intercooler and piping is the same across all patrols, the rest of the kit varies. For example our models have the EGR pipe, and they sent me the wrong kit, so the guys fitting the cooler had to chop, weld and block things to suit as the EGR pipe was in the way.
My post about it here.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?34340-Hodge-s-new-4-2&p=678541&viewfull=1#post678541

So I rang up CC the next day and it was confirmed I was sent a kit for a 4.2 without EGR.

[Stropp]

Thanks Stropp, could you post a couple of pics of your snorkel and airbag mate. I have sent Fatz a pm. Did the snorkel use the same penetration through the panel? have you retained your dual battery? did you run a bigger conduit inside the guard?

mate i used all but the bottom hole on the safari snorkel, if its a nissan snorkel you will be fine, the pipe is 4" to the turbo

[Stropp]

will get some pics to you when forum runner behaves

[Stropp]

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[Stropp]

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[mudski]

Hows the induction noise on your snorkel stropp? I have the same but with the ram head and i still can hear it. Id hate to think what its like facing back towards the window.

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[MudRunnerTD]

Hows the induction noise on your snorkel stropp? I have the same but with the ram head and i still can hear it. Id hate to think what its like facing back towards the window.

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I was going to tag you Mark. is yours a Fatz Snorkel too?

[Stropp]

Hows the induction noise on your snorkel stropp? I have the same but with the ram head and i still can hear it. Id hate to think what its like facing back towards the window.

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get a bit but it doesnt bother me as the wind takes most away unless going slow and the stereo covers that

[Hodge]

I was going to tag you Mark. is yours a Fatz Snorkel too?

I think Mark has the Radius snorkel with fatz airbox.

[MudRunnerTD]

So I ordered a Carter 4601 pump off eBay on Tuesday and it arrived today.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/25.jpg
nissannewby can you confirm I need to take the power from the oil pressure switch on the drivers side of the motor? Or can I take this from anywhere?

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/26.jpg

Cheers guys.


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[Ben-e-boy]

Its a seperate pressure switch according to those drawings.

I'd be using the pressure switch to switch a relay, not the pump. Separate power and control

[Winnie]

I haven't wired mine yet but will just switch a relay via ignition. That was Mat's suggestion too.

[MudRunnerTD]

Its a seperate pressure switch according to those drawings.

I'd be using the pressure switch to switch a relay, not the pump. Separate power and control

Thanks Bene, so i read that drawings to say take the supply for the pump from the ignition via the Oil Pressure switch? Your suggesting putting a relay in between the Oil Pressure switch and the pump yeah but still take the supply from the Oil Pressure switch? can i not take the supply from anywhere that required Ignition? Is there an easier spot? As long as its switched via ignition yeah?

[MudRunnerTD]

I haven't wired mine yet but will just switch a relay via ignition. That was Mat's suggestion too.

so leave out the Oil Pressure switch circuit? Seems unnecessary?

[Winnie]

With their diagram the pump will operate when your engine is running and you have oil pressure.
It won't hurt to have it running for 5 seconds while you glow the plugs so I was just going to wire it from ignition. It will save time when changing fuel filters too.

[Ben-e-boy]

Thanks Bene, so i read that drawings to say take the supply for the pump from the ignition via the Oil Pressure switch? Your suggesting putting a relay in between the Oil Pressure switch and the pump yeah but still take the supply from the Oil Pressure switch? can i not take the supply from anywhere that required Ignition? Is there an easier spot? As long as its switched via ignition yeah?


Give the pump its own protected supply from the battery switched by relay. Control that relay by the key. Thats what I mean about separate.

If you develop a fault at the pump mid trip and say, melt a cable, which does happen. It will only damage the cable directly from the battery to the pump.
If the pump was supplied from ignition directly it will damage cable all the way back to the Key,

Oil pressure switch is debateable. If I were to use an oil pressure switch I would have bypass switch incase I need to start it after a roll over or in stuck in some risky position where getting out and priming is not ideal, or fault frinding.

This is how I would wire it in. I used the same principal on my W2A cooler

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[MudRunnerTD]

Legend Bene.!


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[nissannewby]

I went up from 75kW to about 100kW with just a tune after fitting a 3" exhaust.
Then after fitting the CC intercooler they easily reached 115-120kW, but apparently the car was gasping for air at that stage or beyond.
The standard HT18 was at its peak range so they suggested if I want more, I'd need a better turbo and/or open up the air intake.
The IP was also a limiting factor.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=69595&stc=1

Good Ole 3rd gear run from JPC again... KW and torque will be slightly lower than on this sheet. The best I could manage was 121 rwkw with the maxxed stock pump. The pump was a little tired though.

[nissannewby]

Did you swap your snorkel for a 4" too or just the airbox? I am running your old cobra head and certainly felt a difference. Concerned that a bigger airbox will be limited by the snorkel

I can highly recommend going a better airbox. Do the airbox at the very least. The genuine airbox is the most restrictive part of the equation. I think the cobra head would have been a placebo effect a little as the problem is the element to airbox relationship, any changes beyond that will render little result.

[nissannewby]

Eric were your before and after Dyno runs on the same Dyno? A 20kw increase surprises me? Bloody impressive! How are your EGTs?

You can have a 20kw increase on all the standard gear if you wind the fuel into it. I did 109 rwkw with all my stock gear. EGTs were ok but had to managed when towing but they werent crazy. Putting a big cooler on just allows more fuel to thrown in and EGTs are more stable. Dont always think lower is always better. We have a safe max but there is nothing wrong with cruising at 350 C*.

[MudRunnerTD]

Good Ole 3rd gear run from JPC again... KW and torque will be slightly lower than on this sheet. The best I could manage was 121 rwkw with the maxxed stock pump. The pump was a little tired though.

Yeah I did wonder what gear it was in too.

So Matt you reckon a 20kw increase is possible just from the cooling of the intercooler allowing a bigger tune? 20kw is a great result!

Does anyone know what airflow diameter the Nissan snorkel would equate too?

mudski, what did your snorkel cost mate?

Thanks fellas, this thread is developing well. Excited about making some changes finally.

[nissannewby]

Yeah I did wonder what gear it was in too.

So Matt you reckon a 20kw increase is possible just from the cooling of the intercooler allowing a bigger tune? 20kw is a great result!

Does anyone know what airflow diameter the Nissan snorkel would equate too?

mudski, what did your snorkel cost mate?

Thanks fellas, this thread is developing well. Excited about making some changes finally.

Yes and like I said is all achievable on stock equipment too although it wont be as nice as something with a Borg Warner on it. Yeah the standard cooler just isnt big enough once you start leaning on it, it just loses efficiency. If you go to a full 4" intake and a Borg Warner EFR6758 then it will be a very nice car to drive. Keeping in mind that your pump is going to be the factor of restriction.

[MudRunnerTD]

Yes and like I said is all achievable on stock equipment too although it wont be as nice as something with a Borg Warner on it. Yeah the standard cooler just isnt big enough once you start leaning on it, it just loses efficiency. If you go to a full 4" intake and a Borg Warner EFR6758 then it will be a very nice car to drive. Keeping in mind that your pump is going to be the factor of restriction.

Seriously looking at changing to a 600x300x76 front mount. The cost saving would pay for the airbox and half the snorkel probably. Are you happy with a front mount mate?

[nissannewby]

Seriously looking at changing to a 600x300x76 front mount. The cost saving would pay for the airbox and half the snorkel probably. Are you happy with a front mount mate?

Yes. Front mount or ultimately Water to Air. And to go further again Water injection :D

[mudski]

Yeah I did wonder what gear it was in too.

So Matt you reckon a 20kw increase is possible just from the cooling of the intercooler allowing a bigger tune? 20kw is a great result!

Does anyone know what airflow diameter the Nissan snorkel would equate too?

mudski, what did your snorkel cost mate?

Thanks fellas, this thread is developing well. Excited about making some changes finally.

The Radius fab snorkel was $690 from memory...
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Mat. JPC told me they do their runs in 4th. When I had my car at 4x4 Obsession, they did the first dyno run and the outcome was just about identical to JPC's, 3kw difference. Was different after the snorkel and box was fitted though.... And they do theirs in 4th....

As for the fuel pump. I wired mine in so it comes on only when there is oil pressure. Quite easy to do. Just wire a relay an as per normal, but the earth for the relay you just tap into the wire going to the OEM oil pressure switch. For me I didn't want it to run when the ignition was on. As when I do electrical work on the car sometimes I need the ignition on. So I didn't want the pump to be running. I could have just put a switch in to turn it off but I have enough switches already on the dash. Lol. Plus priming the fuel filter by hand only takes a minute or two to do so...
I also made a bypass fuel line around the pump just incase the pump died, so their would be minimal pressure loss from having no pump. The carters I think can still draw fuel through when not running, but I think i did find somewhere that there is pressure loss. So making up a bypass while I had access to the rear tank was no biggie to me.
Each to their own on this... It suits me.

[Stropp]

the fatz snorkel and air box was around $1100 if i recall correctly Darren

[Kimbo63]

$600 for the millweld they all look alike to me

[nissannewby]

mudski

JPC are either lying or there dyno isnt calibrated. The runs hodge posted should be pushing towards 130km/h in 4th easy as his wagon should have 3.9 diffs.

[Touses]

nissannewby should I be concerned about putting an overflow bottle on my W2A IC?
Does it really require one?

[MudRunnerTD]

nissannewby should I be concerned about putting an overflow bottle on my W2A IC?
Does it really require one?

It will just act as a reservoir. Your W/a system will be charged so it should not be an overflow as such? Mine on the GQ is anyway but it's an unusual setup.

I would have thought an overflow or expansion chamber was not required as you want to avoid air in?

[Touses]

It will just act as a reservoir. Your W/a system will be charged so it should not be an overflow as such? Mine on the GQ is anyway but it's an unusual setup.

I would have thought an overflow or expansion chamber was not required as you want to avoid air in?

That makes sense! Mine too is sorta odd, should work a treat tho'!

[mudski]

mudski

JPC are either lying or there dyno isnt calibrated. The runs hodge posted should be pushing towards 130km/h in 4th easy as his wagon should have 3.9 diffs.
Yeah dunno what to say. As my two runs from different workshops were almost identical. Anyway, dyno run, dyno bum. As long as the user is happy...lol
As for the FMIC Mat. As we know these kettles like to get hot. Would having something else in front slowing air flow to the radiator just make it run hotter. But, I kinda like the idea of W2A.
One day I might change mine.

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[AB]

Yeah dunno what to say. As my two runs from different workshops were almost identical. Anyway, dyno run, dyno bum. As long as the user is happy...lol As for the FMIC Mat. As we know these kettles like to get hot. Would having something else in front slowing air flow to the radiator just make it run hotter. But, I kinda like the idea of W2A. One day I might change mine. Sent from my SM-P600 using Tapatalk I was a little hesitant too Mudski with a front mount and I won't lie there was a slight initial increase in water temps along with my free bennyboy high mount but I became proactive with keeping it clean.

The lower EGT was honestly light years ahead of a top mount (along with the right turbo and set up) and even after a muddy event wasn't a critical concern of water temp.

I know there's a lot of kettle stories floating around and yes possibly a slight issue all round with mr Nissan td42 it's not an issue if you set it up right and be proactive with cleaning if you're into muddy tracks.

[Winnie]

I was a little hesitant too Mudski with a front mount and I won't lie there was a slight initial increase in water temps along with my free bennyboy high mount but I became proactive with keeping it clean.

The lower EGT was honestly light years ahead of a top mount (along with the right turbo and set up) and even after a muddy event wasn't a critical concern of water temp.

I know there's a lot of kettle stories floating around and yes possibly a slight issue all round with mr Nissan td42 it's not an issue if you set it up right and be proactive with cleaning if you're into muddy tracks.
I think the old TD42 kettle story comes down to maintenance... Mine doesn't get hot and I only know one person's how did and he is notorious for doing dodgy work on his car.

[Stropp]

UFI are doing an oversized viscous hub and fan setup with very good results, cost around $600 i believe, i will be getting one prior to xmas as im heading south.

[MudRunnerTD]

I just spent a little time crawling around the GUIV. Holy bat shit!! A front mount is gunna big a bloody mission!! There is some Stuff in the way!! The Aircon condenser is huge and there is an oil cooler in front of that. I could make the cooler fit but seriously going to struggle getting the pipe work to it!!!

What is the smallest pipe I can run from turbo to intake via a FMIC? I was working on a 3" kit but needing to re think this if I can!

The turbo outlet wouldn't be more than 50mm or so? What is the downside of smaller tubing?

[MB]

Apologies Daz, big day mate, what power ya chasing?

[MudRunnerTD]

Apologies Daz, big day mate, what power ya chasing?

Not huge power. Thinking 120 to 140 by the sounds of things.top end of that would be great.

[MudRunnerTD]

Really keen to sort out my exhaust temps when towing and on the beach. Full rethink on it.

At this stage it's looking like the Borg Warner turbo coupled with an upgraded intercooler and airbox. If I can fit s front mount I can use the saved cash on the snorkel and airbox so keen on that.

The plumbing for the front mount is bloody tight though!!

[AB]

I just spent a little time crawling around the GUIV. Holy bat shit!! A front mount is gunna big a bloody mission!! There is some Stuff in the way!! The Aircon condenser is huge and there is an oil cooler in front of that. I could make the cooler fit but seriously going to struggle getting the pipe work to it!!! What is the smallest pipe I can run from turbo to intake via a FMIC? I was working on a 3" kit but needing to re think this if I can! The turbo outlet wouldn't be more than 50mm or so? What is the downside of smaller tubing? I wouldn't go any less then 2.5". You can do 3" mate, I believe in you're angle grinding skills ;)

Volume mate!!!

[mudski]

I was a little hesitant too Mudski with a front mount and I won't lie there was a slight initial increase in water temps along with my free bennyboy high mount but I became proactive with keeping it clean.

The lower EGT was honestly light years ahead of a top mount (along with the right turbo and set up) and even after a muddy event wasn't a critical concern of water temp.

I know there's a lot of kettle stories floating around and yes possibly a slight issue all round with mr Nissan td42 it's not an issue if you set it up right and be proactive with cleaning if you're into muddy tracks.
My EGT's are high though anyway. Haven't seen over 400c yet, even with towing... One day I'll look more into it....

I think the old TD42 kettle story comes down to maintenance... Mine doesn't get hot and I only know one person's how did and he is notorious for doing dodgy work on his car.

The cooling system on mine is well maintained. Better air flow I think it needs.

[nissannewby]

nissannewby should I be concerned about putting an overflow bottle on my W2A IC?
Does it really require one?

No. A water to air system doesnt require thermostatic control of the water. We want all the cooling all the time. You will also find that a w2a system will run higher pressure than what most recovery caps can handle anyway once the system is bled and charged.

[nissannewby]

Yeah dunno what to say. As my two runs from different workshops were almost identical. Anyway, dyno run, dyno bum. As long as the user is happy...lol
As for the FMIC Mat. As we know these kettles like to get hot. Would having something else in front slowing air flow to the radiator just make it run hotter. But, I kinda like the idea of W2A.
One day I might change mine.

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If a front mount causes engine temperature issues then it is incorrectly sized or the problem lies in the cooling system. For the most part the problem will be in the cooling system. Frontal area is the biggest thing for a front mount.

[nissannewby]

Really keen to sort out my exhaust temps when towing and on the beach. Full rethink on it.

At this stage it's looking like the Borg Warner turbo coupled with an upgraded intercooler and airbox. If I can fit s front mount I can use the saved cash on the snorkel and airbox so keen on that.

The plumbing for the front mount is bloody tight though!!


There is enough room for 3" piping.

[nissannewby]

My EGT's are high though anyway. Haven't seen over 400c yet, even with towing... One day I'll look more into it....


The cooling system on mine is well maintained. Better air flow I think it needs.

Your EGTS are or arent high?

Airflow is the biggest thing. This includes having all foam, curtains, splash plates etc in place to apply the appropriate low pressure zones where needed.

[nissannewby]

Here are some pics of an angular tube and fin cooler with 3" pipe on a GU IV equivalent ute.

[MudRunnerTD]

nissannewby You Sir are a Bloody Legend!! That's how I envisaged the tubes would need to go but got pretty scared in the head. That helps allot but looks time consuming. Anything I do needs to be completed during a single weekend.

Yes my EGT get high all the time and easily. Not sure if I have a faulty Pyro and i am going to replace my Autometer gauge for a VDO I think just for peace of mind. A;so on the beach and when towing she gets warm and I'm keen to set it up better.

[MudRunnerTD]

Mat I have either an Oil Cooler or a Power Steering cooler on the passenger side in front of the radiator, can this be easily moved? I note in the pics above you don't have one but there seems to be a fan removed and room for one to still be in position.

Do I need to rubber mount the front mount?

[nissannewby]

Mat I have either an Oil Cooler or a Power Steering cooler on the passenger side in front of the radiator, can this be easily moved? I note in the pics above you don't have one but there seems to be a fan removed and room for one to still be in position.

Do I need to rubber mount the front mount?

Yes its a power steering cooler. Its there in the photos I posted but has been moved to the drivers side. You dont have to rubber mount it. The fan thats removed is the one that switches on with the ac. have removed these before with seemingly no effect on the ac.

[nissannewby]

I willa have some better clearer pics later this week. Also will have pics with the engine in and it hooked up this week too.

[mudski]

Your EGTS are or arent high?

Airflow is the biggest thing. This includes having all foam, curtains, splash plates etc in place to apply the appropriate low pressure zones where needed.

Aren't high. I would have thought.... Running around town they usually sit on around 250c and will climb to around 350 if I push it hard up a decent hill. I have all the foam and splash plates in except for the one around the steering box...

Nice pics too Mat. Something I would like to see too in the future. Either this or W2A.

[MudRunnerTD]

Wow just did some ringing around for the Snorkel and Airbox!

Radius Fab
SS Snorkel $590 (Powder coated $690) (Ram Head $790)
Airbus (Round using a 4" pod element) $340
Total $1130 Plus Freight


Fatz Fab
SS Snorkel $970 (Powder coated $1080) (Ram Head $1225)
Box Airbox $660 with larger pod element
(Package of SS Snorkel and Airbox $1550) Plus freight
Total $1705 Plus Freight

Assuming the SS Snorkels are bloody identical i struggle to understand the price point for Fatz? $400 difference in the Snorkel? Really?

I see the Fatz Airbox is bigger but they both have 4" flow in and out. I like the larger element in the Fatz but is it worth $320 increase?

Anyone know where i can get a Panel filter airbox? Maybe i should make one?

mudski what airbag have you got hooked up to our radius fab snorkel mate?

Is this just TD Tax?

[MudRunnerTD]

This what you need Dazz, this is from GCG but shop around as prices have come up a bit...

Try out Eastern Turbo Chargers in bayswater and MTQ

You may need a short bracket for the actuator but I have one here for you.

Are you going to upgrade your airbox too?

Borg Warner EFR6758 Turbocharger T25/V-Band
(http://gcg.com.au/petrol-performance/performance-1/borg-warner-turbochargers/borg-warner-efr6758-turbocharger-t25-v-band-detail)Turbine Outlet Flange Borg Warner EFR Series This is for the 3" dump pipe (http://gcg.com.au/petrol-performance/performance-4/turbo-flanges/turbine-housing-outlet/gcg-turbine-housing-outlet-v-band-flange-borg-warner-efr-series-detail)
(http://gcg.com.au/petrol-performance/performance-1/borg-warner-turbochargers/borg-warner-efr6758-turbocharger-t25-v-band-detail)V-Band Clamp 3.0" GT30/GT35/T04Z/EFR/GTW
(http://gcg.com.au/petrol-performance/performance-4/v-band-clamps/v-band-clamp-gt-gtx30-gt-gtx35-gtw-t04z-efr-turbine-housing-outlet-detail) Turbine Inlet Flange Adaptor T25 to T3
(http://gcg.com.au/petrol-performance/performance-4/turbo-flanges/turbine-housing-inlet/turbine-inlet-flange-adaptor-t25-to-t3-detail)Base Gasket T25/T28 Multi Layer
(http://gcg.com.au/petrol-performance/performance-4/turbo-gaskets/turbine-inlet-gasket-multi-layer-t25-t28-detail)Base Gasket T3 Multi Layer (http://gcg.com.au/petrol-performance/performance-4/turbo-gaskets/turbine-inlet-gasket-multi-layer-t3-single-entry-detail)


I originally bought this oil drain but it's not ideal and ended up getting an ID drain of 15mm from Eastern Turbo in Bayswater for much better flow.

(http://gcg.com.au/petrol-performance/performance-3/oil-drain-fittings/garrett-gt-38mm-hole-centres/oil-drain-kit-gt-gtx-series-19mm-hose-detail)

Well i just did some pricing on this. on the GCG site the cart came in at $2995. I contacted their Melbourne sales guy and he got me a price of $2830 delivered and a 2 week wait.

MTQ came in at $3500 and he was busy and not super interested in talking to me. He tried to sell me a Garret GTX 2863 and said it was a great unit and id be stoked with the kit at $3000 MTQ had a Backorder of 1 month on the BW gear.

[Winnie]

Don't do the garret if the price is similar to the Borgwarner. I will posy my dyno tune later today but my results were not really close to ab's.

[mudski]

Wow just did some ringing around for the Snorkel and Airbox!

Radius Fab
SS Snorkel $590 (Powder coated $690) (Ram Head $790)
Airbus (Round using a 4" pod element) $340
Total $1130 Plus Freight


Fatz Fab
SS Snorkel $970 (Powder coated $1080) (Ram Head $1225)
Box Airbox $660 with larger pod element
(Package of SS Snorkel and Airbox $1550) Plus freight
Total $1705 Plus Freight

Assuming the SS Snorkels are bloody identical i struggle to understand the price point for Fatz? $400 difference in the Snorkel? Really?

I see the Fatz Airbox is bigger but they both have 4" flow in and out. I like the larger element in the Fatz but is it worth $320 increase?

Anyone know where i can get a Panel filter airbag? Maybe i should make one?

mudski what airbag have you got hooked up to our radius fab snorkel mate?

Is this just TD Tax?
I run the Radius Snorkel, I bought the 4inch ram head local for around $60 too.... My air box is the FATZ box.
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As for the price difference in snorkels. My guess is that the FATZ snorkel has hidden welds. More time and care is need in this. My Radius snorkel you can see where the joins are. Doesn't bother me though.

[Kimbo63]

Wow just did some ringing around for the Snorkel and Airbox!

Radius Fab
SS Snorkel $590 (Powder coated $690) (Ram Head $790)
Airbus (Round using a 4" pod element) $340
Total $1130 Plus Freight


Fatz Fab
SS Snorkel $970 (Powder coated $1080) (Ram Head $1225)
Box Airbox $660 with larger pod element
(Package of SS Snorkel and Airbox $1550) Plus freight
Total $1705 Plus Freight

Assuming the SS Snorkels are bloody identical i struggle to understand the price point for Fatz? $400 difference in the Snorkel? Really?

I see the Fatz Airbox is bigger but they both have 4" flow in and out. I like the larger element in the Fatz but is it worth $320 increase?

Anyone know where i can get a Panel filter airbox? Maybe i should make one?

mudski what airbag have you got hooked up to our radius fab snorkel mate?

Is this just TD Tax?
Have you tried millweld Daz they are in Victoria so freight maybe cheaper snorkel prices are on par with radius fab

[Winnie]

Have you tried millweld Daz they are in Victoria so freight maybe cheaper snorkel prices are on par with radius fab

Patrolapart are a distributor for Millweld too.

[nissannewby]

A gtx2863 isnt even in the same league as the borg warner efr6758. You can get the turbo out of the states for about 2k Aud landed. Then just purchase the other parts from one of the suppliers over here. Should be able to save $1000 from the quote you have been given from Mtq. The quote you have from gcg isnt to bad. The biggest hold up for you will be the dump pipe as it will beed to be custom made.

[nissannewby]

nissannewby You Sir are a Bloody Legend!! That's how I envisaged the tubes would need to go but got pretty scared in the head. That helps allot but looks time consuming. Anything I do needs to be completed during a single weekend.

Yes my EGT get high all the time and easily. Not sure if I have a faulty Pyro and i am going to replace my Autometer gauge for a VDO I think just for peace of mind. A;so on the beach and when towing she gets warm and I'm keen to set it up better.

It doesnt need to be done in a single weekend. Sure you can have the turbo mounted and running in a weekend. just hook it up to your existing cooler. Then with other spare time mount the cooler, then another time make up the hot side pipe and another time the cold side so on and so forth. And then one weekend hook it all up. EGTs will be a non event with a Borg warner even with the factory cooler.

[MudRunnerTD]

A gtx2863 isnt even in the same league as the borg warner efr6758. You can get the turbo out of the states for about 2k Aud landed. Then just purchase the other parts from one of the suppliers over here. Should be able to save $1000 from the quote you have been given from Mtq. The quote you have from gcg isnt to bad. The biggest hold up for you will be the dump pipe as it will beed to be custom made.

yeah right so i will need to mount the turbo and get it to an exhaust shop for a Dump pipe to be fitted? AB is that what you did? i think i read that in your build. Any way i can get this Dump made prior?

Im a little time Poor, really keen to get this Turbo on before the Christmas Break if i can as I'm heading to Cape Jaffa in SA on the 27th of December for a Week on the Beach driving and want the new Turbo setup for then if i can.


Mat what do you think of the round airbox that Radius makes? there is a pic on their FB page, i will see if i can find it and post it her.

[MudRunnerTD]

Here are a couple of pics. 4" in and out with a Pod filter

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/74.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/75.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/76.jpg


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[MudRunnerTD]

I like this style a lot but I need to retain the dual battery tray.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/77.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/78.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/79.jpg


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[AB]

Yes mate I hooked it all up and just drove it to the exhaust shop with no dump pipe.

[nissannewby]

The Radius ones are fine and will do the job. Have a look also at on track fabrications in wa. Im not sure if 4by fab are still going but they use to do an ok box.

Anyone feel like sending me a radius snorkel?

[nissannewby]

yeah right so i will need to mount the turbo and get it to an exhaust shop for a Dump pipe to be fitted? AB is that what you did? i think i read that in your build. Any way i can get this Dump made prior?

Im a little time Poor, really keen to get this Turbo on before the Christmas Break if i can as I'm heading to Cape Jaffa in SA on the 27th of December for a Week on the Beach driving and want the new Turbo setup for then if i can.


Mat what do you think of the round airbox that Radius makes? there is a pic on their FB page, i will see if i can find it and post it her.

Even just getting the turbo fitted will get rid of your egt problem without the other gear. You can pretty much max the stock fuel pump and still have now issue due to how well the bw works.

[MudRunnerTD]

The Radius ones are fine and will do the job. Have a look also at on track fabrications in wa. Im not sure if 4by fab are still going but they use to do an ok box.

Anyone feel like sending me a radius snorkel?

This is looking like a great price mate!!

https://www.snorked.com.au

[MudRunnerTD]

I run the Radius Snorkel, I bought the 4inch ram head local for around $60 too.... My air box is the FATZ box.
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As for the price difference in snorkels. My guess is that the FATZ snorkel has hidden welds. More time and care is need in this. My Radius snorkel you can see where the joins are. Doesn't bother me though.

Thanks Mark. did you have to get a slight bend at the top to straighten the Ram head? or just cut it off? i thought yours sat straight and level like it should?

[MudRunnerTD]

The Radius fab snorkel was $690 from memory...
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Just had a look at this pic again. So you told Radius you were going to fit a Ram head and he made it to suit?

[mudski]

Just had a look at this pic again. So you told Radius you were going to fit a Ram head and he made it to suit?
Correct. The ram head is straight. Just looks off in the pic....

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[MudRunnerTD]

might have just bought a Borg Warner EFR6758...........

Thanks for your time Matty, legend mate. AB holy shit mate! lets do this!

[Rossco]

might have just bought a Borg Warner EFR6758...........

Thanks for your time Matty, legend mate. AB holy shit mate! lets do this!
Ooh nice one Daz, turbo upgrade will have to be on the cards for mine at some point and definatly know it'll be one of these.

[MudRunnerTD]

nissannewby it seems i did not place that second order last night mate. can you confirm this is the actuator please and i will rebuild the add-on order

http://gcg.com.au/petrol-performance/performance-4/wastegates-accessories-internal/wastegate-actuator-efr-b1-t25-v-band-inlet-4psi-32psi-detail

cheers bud

[nissannewby]

179284

As long as its that number then yes.

[MudRunnerTD]

Holy FARKEN Shit!!!!!

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/132.jpg

That is all!!


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[Winnie]

Whoah that was fast.
Nice one Darren! Your Mrs will be lifting wheels in the GU in no time!!!

[AB]

Holy FARKEN Shit!!!!! That is all!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Why did you get the 6458 rather than the 6758?
nissannewby

Something I don't know about gents?????

[MudRunnerTD]

Why did you get the 6458 rather than the 6758?
nissannewby

Something I don't know about gents?????

Your a bastard!!!!

Looking at the pic thinking..... "How can he tell that??? WTF! Bloody Hope not!"

Rechecked the paperwork and its a 6758. Is there even a 6458? Bastard!

[nissannewby]

So its a 6758?

[MudRunnerTD]

So its a 6758?

Reciept says I ordered a 6758

[MudRunnerTD]

@AB

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/133.jpg


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[AB]

@AB Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk What are your thoughts Matty, looks slightly different to mine?

[nissannewby]

So its a 6758?

Oh

I thought I told you to get the efr6258.
Andys is the 6758 as he was set on upgrading to a 12mm pump.

[MudRunnerTD]

you guys are killing me! There is some coin in that box!!! Thats it! Not bloody coming back here until the sane people are in the house.......

[AB]

you guys are killing me! There is some coin in that box!!! Thats it! Not bloody coming back here until the sane people are in the house....... Bugger mate, Rossco was after one...

Rossco, ^^^ cheap BorgWarner up for grabs to suit your 12mm pump?

[Rossco]

Bugger mate, Rossco was after one...

Rossco, ^^^ cheap BorgWarner up for grabs to suit your 12mm pump?
Umm yeah should we talk business? ? . .

[Touses]

you guys are killing me! There is some coin in that box!!! Thats it! Not bloody coming back here until the sane people are in the house.......

I'm here mate! Well, me n the voices.

[AB]

Poor Mr MR!

Yes he has the right turbo but we gave him heart palpitations when he read this...lol

[Winnie]

And we all laughed and laughed and laughed!

[Rossco]

Spewn thought you were going to do me a great deal Daz seeing as I'm such a good bloke and give me turbo for a slab of tooheys reds. . . Oh well 😣 . . .

[Maxhead]

Sucker for punishment Dazz...bwahaha

[Clunk]

you guys are killing me! There is some coin in that box!!! Thats it! Not bloody coming back here until the sane people are in the house.......
Right I'm here now, so what did I miss?

[MudRunnerTD]

Ok I'm back. Thanks Clunk for caring. The rest of ya can eat a box of tent pegs.

Bring on Borg Warner!

[AB]

Ok I'm back. Thanks Clunk for caring. The rest of ya can eat a box of tent pegs. Bring on Borg Warner! I'll upload your voicemail tomorrow of when you first saw my post here.

[nissannewby]

Ok I'm back. Thanks Clunk for caring. The rest of ya can eat a box of tent pegs.

Bring on Borg Warner!

So while im here eating my tent pegs can you chuck up a few more pics please. I want everyone to see how nice these units are :)

[MudRunnerTD]

So while im here eating my tent pegs can you chuck up a few more pics please. I want everyone to see how nice these units are :)


It's bloody big mate! Looks wicked!

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/134.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/135.jpg

Box inside a box I think for plain wrapping to limit customs duties maybe?

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/136.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/137.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/138.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/139.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/140.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/141.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/142.jpg

I like it a lot!! Beast of a thing mate.


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[Clunk]

That'll look good on me Scott Bonner lawnmower

[nissannewby]

Its actually quite small. I have the next frame size up on mine it makes that one look like a toy.

[AB]

It's bloody big mate! Looks wicked! Box inside a box I think for plain wrapping to limit customs duties maybe? I like it a lot!! Beast of a thing mate. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Dazz, can you also show both sides, top and bottom. This will help for your feeds.

[AB]

Language warning from a very distressed puppy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3yTIGKufQw&feature=youtu.be

[Maxhead]

Hahahahah, nice one Darren:)


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[mudski]

Very Cruel AB...:devilred:

[MudRunnerTD]

Dazz, can you also show both sides, top and bottom. This will help for your feeds.

Yeah I'll need to unpack it again, that's all the pics I took yesterday.

[Winnie]

Yeah I'll need to unpack it again, that's all the pics I took yesterday.

So bolt on this weekend then?

[MudRunnerTD]

So bolt on this weekend then?

Nah first weekend in December. Got stuff on and that's the only opening before Christmas. Booked AB in to give me a hand.

[Rossco]

Language warning from a very distressed puppy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3yTIGKufQw&feature=youtu.be
Wow know not to mess with you Andrew haha. Very crewel but what a pisser very good evil panda . . .

[MB]

Too true Rossco, such power nearby, let's play nice :-(

[Touses]

Nah first weekend in December. Got stuff on and that's the only opening before Christmas. Booked AB in to give me a hand.


Nice to see AB is giving you a hand, very leader like!
Have you pre-ordered the replacement turbo?

[Rossco]

Nice to see AB is giving you a hand, very leader like!
Have you pre-ordered the replacement turbo?
What happened to just plain ordering something, everything is bloody "pre ordered" now! ! . . Grumpy old bugger rant over lol . . .

[Winnie]

What happened to just plain ordering something, everything is bloody "pre ordered" now! ! . . Grumpy old bugger rant over lol . . .

So the suppliers can get paid for the goods before they have to pay their suppliers!

[nissannewby]

Have another Borg Warner EFR6758 coming for a 06 GU IV up here. Also retaining the standard pump for now but have a nice big w2a unit going on.

[AB]

Have another Borg Warner EFR6758 coming for a 06 GU IV up here. Also retaining the standard pump for now but have a nice big w2a unit going on. Will this be on before Darren's?

We are aiming for 3rd Dec.

[nissannewby]

Will this be on before Darren's?

We are aiming for 3rd Dec.

No. We are doing a bit more than you guys. We have done it all at once so cooler, intake etc etc is all being done at once.

[AB]

Link below for further info of my post MR.
http://www.full-race.com/articles/efrturbotechbrief.pdf

Oil feed line starting from the block is an M10 x 1.5 90 elbow to -4an. The length of the braided line is 300mm.

Note: Line length is centre to centre of the ports so tell Pirtek/Enzed or whoever you are using down there so they can compensate for the elbow lengths and fittings themselves.

You will need a 90 bend into the top of the turbo for the oil feed as well -4an.


Oil drain.

Get that oil drain fitting explained earlier with the ID 15mm. Get rubber hose to suit into your exiting oil drain fitting on block. We will cut that to suit on the day. make sure you have clamps to suit.


Water feed starting from block.

I fed mine from the coolant drain on the block for some reason, creature of habit I guess. Your block will also have the port on the left hand side of oil relief which should be M12 x 1.5? Never played with that port but I think that is correct. Confirm?

Anyway I fed mine from the coolant drain which is 1/4BSPT. I wouldn't mind someone confirming this as I can't find my receipts?

This will need to be a 90 bend to the braided line to another 90 bend into turbo m14 x 1.5.

You could/should/maybe feed from your proper water feed port though. if you decided to do this then measure the port difference, something like 50mm-100mm? And then take that off your 300mm length. Again my 300mm was centre to centre so tell Pirtek to take off 90 bend lengths.

Water drain.

I am unsure here as you have the OEM water drain on your thermostat housing so you will need to run that line and work that out yourself. I think your fitting on your thermostat housing is M12 x 1.5 as well but you'll need to confirm that or someone?

Page 41 on my link above explains the ports to tap into, not what you may have thought hey?


Recirculation Valve. Page 62

You will need to get some hose and run this to where your boost gauge goes with a T piece. I assume your boost line is right near your inlet manifold?

You will also need to do a T piece and run it into your pump as well. Assuming yours is compensated?

Clamps to suit but I only put a clamp on my recirc, very low pressure in these lines but should put clamps on I guess.


Page 64. Boost Controlled Solenoid Valve. Remove it, not needed.


Page 70. Get your actuator on and positioned to suit your mounting before our install mate to save time!

Boost controller, assuming you have one and the lines, etc?

Airbox to turbo, work that out, turbo to IC, work that out.

Matty, a couple of confirmation questions above, have I missed anything or made an error mate?

Darren, On the Friday, get your HT18 off, actuator on and positioned correctly for the install Saturday. Don't over torque the vband clamp on the turbo when orientating it to suit the actuator position if need be. If worried just measure the thread of their torque or the setting might be in that manual somewhere.

[AB]

Fitting in turbo for water drain is same as feed m14x1.5

[AB]

Is your turbo water fed too? If so you prob should feed from your oem port otherwise you'll need to block the port if you take it from coolant drain port.

[AB]

I'm on phone now so can't read that manual but have a read about setting the actuator arm too.

[AB]

Link below for further info of my post MR.

Darren, On the Friday, get your HT18 off, actuator on and positioned correctly for the install Saturday.

Snip.

When setting your actuator what I meant was setting your turbo compressor outlet as well along with your actuator to suit your feed to IC and to ensure your actuator does not hit the body of your vehicle guard.

[MudRunnerTD]

Some more pics of the Turbo

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/163.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/164.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/165.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/166.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/167.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/168.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/169.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/170.jpg

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http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/172.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/173.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/174.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/175.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/176.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/177.jpg




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[MudRunnerTD]

Underside of my turbo looks like there is only an Oil cooling line

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/178.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/179.jpg

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[AB]

Ok so your turbo is just oil fed, no probs...

Take off the Boost Controlled Solenoid Valve (The black plastic thing), not needed mate.

As discussed, get that oil drain early this week. 38mm bolt space flange with 2 x bolts M8 x 1.25. Straight down fitting with no bends and hose and clamps to suit to your oil drain barb on block.

[nissannewby]

Link below for further info of my post MR.
http://www.full-race.com/articles/efrturbotechbrief.pdf

Oil feed line starting from the block is an M10 x 1.5 90 elbow to -4an. The length of the braided line is 300mm.

Note: Line length is centre to centre of the ports so tell Pirtek/Enzed or whoever you are using down there so they can compensate for the elbow lengths and fittings themselves.

You will need a 90 bend into the top of the turbo for the oil feed as well -4an.


Oil drain.

Get that oil drain fitting explained earlier with the ID 15mm. Get rubber hose to suit into your exiting oil drain fitting on block. We will cut that to suit on the day. make sure you have clamps to suit.MTQ sell Sonic Branded gear and you can get a 3/4 id hose that has a 90 molded into it. Make sure your drain fitting is 3/4 od.


Water feed starting from block.

I fed mine from the coolant drain on the block for some reason, creature of habit I guess. Your block will also have the port on the left hand side of oil relief which should be M12 x 1.5? Never played with that port but I think that is correct. Confirm?Comfirm. They are M12. Im pretty sure the return is also the same thread

Anyway I fed mine from the coolant drain which is 1/4BSPT. I wouldn't mind someone confirming this as I can't find my receipts?

This will need to be a 90 bend to the braided line to another 90 bend into turbo m14 x 1.5.

You could/should/maybe feed from your proper water feed port though. if you decided to do this then measure the port difference, something like 50mm-100mm? And then take that off your 300mm length. Again my 300mm was centre to centre so tell Pirtek to take off 90 bend lengths. Or as I have also suggested to MR. Buy the hose ends you can fit yourself (reusables) and buy 2m of hose- job done

Water drain.

I am unsure here as you have the OEM water drain on your thermostat housing so you will need to run that line and work that out yourself. I think your fitting on your thermostat housing is M12 x 1.5 as well but you'll need to confirm that or someone?

Page 41 on my link above explains the ports to tap into, not what you may have thought hey?


Recirculation Valve. Page 62

You will need to get some hose and run this to where your boost gauge goes with a T piece. I assume your boost line is right near your inlet manifold? Just run a short hose from compressor housing fitting to the recirc valve. Boost gauge, wastegate reference and compensator should all come from manifold or T into the existing port on the intake of the cooler.

You will also need to do a T piece and run it into your pump as well. Assuming yours is compensated? It is.

Clamps to suit but I only put a clamp on my recirc, very low pressure in these lines but should put clamps on I guess.


Page 64. Boost Controlled Solenoid Valve. Remove it, not needed.


Page 70. Get your actuator on and positioned to suit your mounting before our install mate to save time!

Boost controller, assuming you have one and the lines, etc?

Airbox to turbo, work that out, turbo to IC, work that out.

Matty, a couple of confirmation questions above, have I missed anything or made an error mate?

Darren, On the Friday, get your HT18 off, actuator on and positioned correctly for the install Saturday. Don't over torque the vband clamp on the turbo when orientating it to suit the actuator position if need be. If worried just measure the thread of their torque or the setting might be in that manual somewhere.

There you go AB . I would recommend doing as I suggest for the hoses in using the reusable style hose ends. Then come the saturday you only need to worry about the turbo compressor inlet and outlet connections. Some exhaust tube and silicon parts will do. I can send pics if MR requires for reference.

[nissannewby]

MudRunnerTD Your turbo is only oil lubricated, there really isnt a lot of cooling from the oil.

[AB]

There you go AB . I would recommend doing as I suggest for the hoses in using the reusable style hose ends. Then come the saturday you only need to worry about the turbo compressor inlet and outlet connections. Some exhaust tube and silicon parts will do. I can send pics if MR requires for reference. Cheers mate, easy done!

[MudRunnerTD]

So went over to JPC today and grabbed one of their hi spec water pumps. Looks the biz!!

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/185.jpg

Then stopped in at MTQ and grabbed an Oil Drain flange and pipe. Glad I did! eBay was $45 plus post. MTQ was $24 pickup. Happy days

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/186.jpg

Note the part number of anyone is chasing one.


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[AB]

So went over to JPC today and grabbed one of their hi spec water pumps. Looks the biz!! Then stopped in at MTQ and grabbed an Oil Drain flange and pipe. Glad I did! eBay was $45 plus post. MTQ was $24 pickup. Happy days Note the part number of anyone is chasing one. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Looks good mate, we might have to cut a bit off the end to ensure a nice curve to your oil drain but looks good.

[MudRunnerTD]

Looks good mate, we might have to cut a bit off the end to ensure a nice curve to your oil drain but looks good.

Yeah i looked at it and thought it was long but immediately thought we'd cut it to whatever length was needed as there is no lip.

[Stropp]

So went over to JPC today and grabbed one of their hi spec water pumps. Looks the biz!!

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hey mate how much was the pump, im looking at doing mine later, just going to see how the ufi fan and hub go first.

[MudRunnerTD]

hey mate how much was the pump, im looking at doing mine later, just going to see how the ufi fan and hub go first.

The pump was $480 pick up and they will post to you no props. Each pump is individually numbered and i have number 73. It is incomparable to the Nissan Unit. Its a lot of money but its a heart beat mate. I see the value.

[AB]

Hi Matty.

Are they any pros or cons running wastegate reference from inlet manifold area as opposed to compressor?

Guessing it's true pressure going in?

[MudRunnerTD]

I forgot to post from the weekend also that I grabbed a new fan off a q35 Infiniti which are supposed to be awesome. Got a good price of Matt from ProDeisel and he delivered it to my door.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/187.jpg

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[AB]

I forgot to post from the weekend also that I grabbed a new fan off a q35 Infiniti which are supposed to be awesome. Got a good price of Matt from ProDeisel and he delivered it to my door. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk How much was that?

[MudRunnerTD]

About $170

[mudski]

I will tell you Darren that fan will be useless if you dont modify the clutch fan. I have the same fan, and have done some tests over the last month or so with my own Patrol. The new fan with a stock hub changed nothing. Adding a tube and a half of oil made slight changes, the hub was locking in slightly earlier, assisting is reducing temps quicker. I have recently added another 18ml, one bottle, and now the hub is locked totally. Temps today, being cold outside were lower again, the water temps actually dropped when the car was moving and rose when stationary. Which it never did before. The only issue now is the fan noise. Im not so sure i will be able to put up with it. But i want to see how it goes in real heat at 110ks, this is where my kettle would see 115c. I think i will remove about 10ml from the hub next to see the results.
This is from my own findings mate. I am sure results will vary from motor to motor.

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[nissannewby]

Hi Matty.

Are they any pros or cons running wastegate reference from inlet manifold area as opposed to compressor?

Guessing it's true pressure going in?

Yeah closer to whats actually going into the engine.

[nissannewby]

So went over to JPC today and grabbed one of their hi spec water pumps. Looks the biz!!

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/185.jpg

Then stopped in at MTQ and grabbed an Oil Drain flange and pipe. Glad I did! eBay was $45 plus post. MTQ was $24 pickup. Happy days

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/186.jpg

Note the part number of anyone is chasing one.


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Did you get the oil return hose as well?

Why the cooling system mods?

[MudRunnerTD]

Did you get the oil return hose as well?

Why the cooling system mods?

Hi mate, no I will try and get to Pirtek tomorrow if I get time. My company has a big account so should get s good price.

Taking the opportunity to sort out my cooling while the coolant is dumped. It has always ran hot when towing and on the beach. Obviously the turbo will sort most of that out but I see the benefit of the water pump. The engine has done 270k so I'm ok to swap out the water pump regardless.

[AB]

Did you get the oil return hose as well? Why the cooling system mods? I agree with Matty getting that hose Dazz. I got a standard hose from Pirtek and it wasn't great.

[nissannewby]

Hi mate, no I will try and get to Pirtek tomorrow if I get time. My company has a big account so should get s good price.

Taking the opportunity to sort out my cooling while the coolant is dumped. It has always ran hot when towing and on the beach. Obviously the turbo will sort most of that out but I see the benefit of the water pump. The engine has done 270k so I'm ok to swap out the water pump regardless.

Hot as in coolant or pyros?

[AB]

I agree with Matty getting that hose Dazz. I got a standard hose from Pirtek and it wasn't great. I got Andy to put on a Flexi hose but Mattys one would be good if you can.

[nissannewby]

About $170

About $100 to much

[MudRunnerTD]

Hot as in coolant or pyros?

Both. Alway bounce off the top end of my Pyros but the water temp rises to hot on a big long hill climb towing and on the beach.

[nissannewby]

Both. Alway bounce off the top end of my Pyros but the water temp rises to hot on a big long hill climb towing and on the beach.

Ok. What is the condition of the current equipment? I have never really had engine cooling issues apart from an externally blocked core but have always maintained my cooling system well. Do you still have that rubbish egr hooked up?

[MudRunnerTD]

I got Andy to put on a Flexi hose but Mattys one would be good if you can.

Yeah I got this pic off Matty the other day and will show it to Pirtek for the Oil Return line

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/190.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/191.jpg

And I like the make your own option for the water return like this, again from Matty.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/192.jpg


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[MudRunnerTD]

Ok. What is the condition of the current equipment? I have never really had engine cooling issues apart from an externally blocked core but have always maintained my cooling system well. Do you still have that rubbish egr hooked up?

No I played it years ago and removed the butterfly valve from the intercooler. I will remove it completely when I take the turbo off this time.

Is it worth having the radiator tested? I will be time poor when it's apart so keen to get stuff done quickly. Will they remove a tank and rod it or something? Isn't worth throwing a flush into the radiator for a few days before I strip it out?

Also I'm assuming it's a good time to add a Provent.?

[nissannewby]

No I played it years ago and removed the butterfly valve from the intercooler. I will remove it completely when I take the turbo off this time.

Is it worth having the radiator tested? I will be time poor when it's apart so keen to get stuff done quickly. Will they remove a tank and rod it or something? Isn't worth throwing a flush into the radiator for a few days before I strip it out?

Also I'm assuming it's a good time to add a Provent.?

So you completely removed the EGR system? Egr cooler and the lot?

If its the original rad I probably wouldnt bother and just replace it. The plastic tends to get brittle over time. I would only use something like the flush that fleetguard have available.

I dont do catch cans but if you think so then yes.

[MudRunnerTD]

About $100 to much

I paid a little less than that actually but hey are listed on eBay for $240 or more so figured it was a pretty good price to be honest?

mudski I understand that the fan should not be on all the time or it will affect fuel economy and engine load. I understood it would engage at a certain temp and pull the temp down before disengaging. Not necessarily to hold the temp lower but rather pull it down faster when it engages. The water pump on the other hand should hold the temp better I'd have thought for sure. That's the plan anyway.

[AB]

Yeah I got this pic off Matty the other day and will show it to Pirtek for the Oil Return line And I like the make your own option for the water return like this, again from Matty. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Thats water feed not drain. Who's car in that pic?

[nissannewby]

I paid a little less than that actually but hey are listed on eBay for $240 or more so figured it was a pretty good price to be honest?

mudski I understand that the fan should not be on all the time or it will affect fuel economy and engine load. I understood it would engage at a certain temp and pull the temp down before disengaging. Not necessarily to hold the temp lower but rather pull it down faster when it engages. The water pump on the other hand should hold the temp better I'd have thought for sure. That's the plan anyway.

$62 AU plus shipping..... Genuine Parts

[nissannewby]

Thats water feed not drain. Who's picture is that car?

Mine.......

[MudRunnerTD]

So you completely removed the EGR system? Egr cooler and the lot?

If its the original rad I probably wouldnt bother and just replace it. The plastic tends to get brittle over time. I would only use something like the flush that fleetguard have available.

I dont do catch cans but if you think so then yes.

Do you just vent to atmosphere? At the moment it's returning into the intake.

I removed the main section and blanked off what I could. The pipe from the turbo around the back of the motor is still connected but blanked the intake end as it was to hard to remove without messing with the turbo from memory (8 years ago) I will remove the lot this time around.

[nissannewby]

Thats water feed not drain. Who's car in that pic?

You can see my Oil drain slightly in one of those pics. However I am using the larger frame turbo than you guys and it all sits further forward. I just used the drain hose that was with the UFI 18G I had prior.

[MudRunnerTD]

$62 AU plus shipping..... Genuine Parts

I need a Thumbs Down button!

[nissannewby]

Do you just vent to atmosphere? At the moment it's returning into the intake.

I removed the main section and blanked off what I could. The pipe from the turbo around the back of the motor is still connected but blanked the intake end as it was to hard to remove without messing with the turbo from memory (8 years ago) I will remove the lot this time around.


I do.

The EGR system has a cooler which cools the exhaust gas before entering the cooling system. Removing this cooler will take some load off your cooling system as well. The pipe around the back can be removed with the turbo in place its just a little tricky.

As I have mentioned to you on the phone if someone has altered the static timing of your pump this wont be helping any of your causes.

[MudRunnerTD]

I do.

The EGR system has a cooler which cools the exhaust gas before entering the cooling system. Removing this cooler will take some load off your cooling system as well. The pipe around the back can be removed with the turbo in place its just a little tricky.

As I have mentioned to you on the phone if someone has altered the static timing of your pump this wont be helping any of your causes.


Is that like a long Log style closed cooler like a water to air type log? Yes I have removed that assembly.

[MudRunnerTD]

You can see my Oil drain slightly in one of those pics. However I am using the larger frame turbo than you guys and it all sits further forward. I just used the drain hose that was with the UFI 18G I had prior.

So in the pic you can see the Water feed out the side of the block looping down then back up to the turbo yeah?

The hose with the formed bend in the middle of the pic is the Oil line and just needs to be a suitable oil hose with hose clamps?

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[AB]

So in the pic you can see the Water feed out the side of the block looping down then back up to the turbo yeah? The hose with the formed bend in the middle of the pic is the Oil line and just needs to be a suitable oil hose with hose clamps? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yeah but you really want a nice flowing hose to your sump. You do not want any restriction here with twists or bends or restrictions otherwise you could end up like me potentially.

[AB]

Mine....... Too tight or not enough room for error to go above the oil drain line running the water feed with that system?

[nissannewby]

Too tight or not enough room for error to go above the oil drain line running the water feed with that system?

I used heavy hose and it doesnt bend well. That hose is rated to over 5000psi

Also using a bigger frame turbo which puts everything in different places.

[mudski]

I paid a little less than that actually but hey are listed on eBay for $240 or more so figured it was a pretty good price to be honest?
mudski I understand that the fan should not be on all the time or it will affect fuel economy and engine load. I understood it would engage at a certain temp and pull the temp down before disengaging. Not necessarily to hold the temp lower but rather pull it down faster when it engages. The water pump on the other hand should hold the temp better I'd have thought for sure. That's the plan anyway.
Yeah engine load and fuel eco is of some concern. The fan noise is worse though...lol. Yeah correct on how it works but the issue is the hub disengages too early. There for not pulling the temps down enough. So thats where the hub oil comes in. But i am thinking i might have a little too much oil now in mine. It still requires more than whats originally in there but i may have too much in mine i think. I have the same water pump too as you have bought....

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[Stropp]

Thanks for the info daz, that fan looks like the Ufi one

[TheFlyingBadger]

I do.

The EGR system has a cooler which cools the exhaust gas before entering the cooling system. Removing this cooler will take some load off your cooling system as well. The pipe around the back can be removed with the turbo in place its just a little tricky.

As I have mentioned to you on the phone if someone has altered the static timing of your pump this wont be helping any of your causes.


I used the water connections for that cooler for my Glind. nice tidy job (for once!).

[AB]

Are we all set for the weekend Dazz?

Looking forward to redlining a GU ;)

[MudRunnerTD]

Are we all set for the weekend Dazz?

Looking forward to redlining a GU ;)

No I'm really not but I'm working on it.

[MudRunnerTD]

Spent an hour and a half at the Pirtek counter this afternoon. I think I'm nearlly ready!!!

[MudRunnerTD]

Spent some money!!!

[AB]

Spent some money!!! Try putting a long motor in!!!

Members contribution... I simply wouldn't be were I am.

Our new vendor DavesStuff after the engine was bought was a god send!!!

I easily spent an extra $1500 to safely get my car back on the road!

I'm actually looking forward to putting this in as I did a lot of trial and error getting mine sorted so yours will be a breeze!

Bahahaha famous last words ;)

[AB]

Spent some money!!! Yeah I told ya, I guessed your exact spending to a tea. Phantom costs of getting your system upgraded unforeseen $$$

[MudRunnerTD]

Getting ready!!

Lost most of today with a Burst Hot Water system at home damn it!! Timing is terrible! That near $2k I can't spend on an airbox and snorkel damn it!! Oh well.

So took the GUIV into the exhaust shop today, put it on the hoist and left with this little jigger!

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/12/7.jpg

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They also supplied me new exhaust studs.

I think I'm nearly ready!!


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[MudRunnerTD]

Booked the car in for 8:30 am Monday for a new extended Dump pipe.


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[AB]

Getting ready!! Lost most of today with a Burst Hot Water system at home damn it!! Timing is terrible! That near $2k I can't spend on an airbox and snorkel damn it!! Oh well. So took the GUIV into the exhaust shop today, put it on the hoist and left with this little jigger! They also supplied me new exhaust studs. I think I'm nearly ready!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Sweet, so we can drive it around worry free Saturday sounding like a possessed lawn mower, nice!!!

[Hodge]

put it on the hoist and left with this little jigger!

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/12/7.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/12/8.jpg



Very keen to find out what results you get in the end Darren.
ON a side note what is this jigger we're looking at here?

[AB]

Very keen to find out what results you get in the end Darren. ON a side note what is this jigger we're looking at here? He's just bought a temporary dump pipe so the exhaust faces straight down so when we put the turbo on the weekend we can drive it around until Monday where they'll use that bend but fit it properly to the exhaust.

[MudRunnerTD]

STEP AWAY FROM THE DESK!!!!!!

What a Week!!

Well lets do this!..

I have decided to add to the list a New Radiator ($430) a New Hi Flow Thermostat from Robo's thread. I bought some more Silicon bends today as the ones i ordered off ebay are a no show damn it! Lets get busy!!

[AB]

STEP AWAY FROM THE DESK!!!!!! What a Week!! Well lets do this!.. I have decided to add to the list a New Radiator ($430) a New Hi Flow Thermostat from Robo's thread. I bought some more Silicon bends today as the ones i ordered off ebay are a no show damn it! Lets get busy!! Sorry mate, we can't make it, feeling a bit sick.

[rusty_nail]

Yep crook as

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/12/17.jpg

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[MudRunnerTD]

hope ya choked!! I am Knackered!!..Hitting the shower, see you in a couple of hours boys. Sorry AB not where we wanted to be mate! Bloody Turbo! Who's idea was this!

[AB]

hope ya choked!! I am Knackered!!..Hitting the shower, see you in a couple of hours boys. Sorry AB not where we wanted to be mate! Bloody Turbo! Who's idea was this! uhh ohh!!!

We're up mate, leaving soon, super early, white with one!

[Rossco]

Good luck and have fun with it boys ☺

[MB]

Good luck and have fun with it boys ?
I'm more worried about poor Rusty, think AB said he's working the night shift tonight also, what a legend!

[Winnie]

Enjoy the day guys and make sure you redline every gear on the test drive!

[AB]

Not having a fun day at all, Darren stuffed up and missing a major part that no one has.

Currently MacGyvering something up.

Hopeless!!!

[MB]

Ripper beard you got going there these day Dazman! Tis the season to be jolly :-) http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/12/23.jpg


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[Winnie]

Not having a fun day at all, Darren stuffed up and missing a major part that no one has.

Currently MacGyvering something up.

Hopeless!!!
Is this the bit??

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/12/1.gif

[MudRunnerTD]

Big Shout out to Nic and Andy, been a big 24 hours here. Not over yet but Andy and Nic were a huge help today. I still have a fair bit to do before I turn the key but we are at the pointy end.

Thanks guys, appreciate your effort.

[MudRunnerTD]

Getting ready!!

Lost most of today with a Burst Hot Water system at home damn it!! Timing is terrible! That near $2k I can't spend on an airbox and snorkel damn it!! Oh well.

So took the GUIV into the exhaust shop today, put it on the hoist and left with this little jigger!

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/12/7.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/12/8.jpg

They also supplied me new exhaust studs.

I think I'm nearly ready!!


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So this Turbo is HUGE!! Let's just say this looks nothing like this now!! Also the fire wall has had some serious loving!

[BigRAWesty]

Sounds like you need a backwards manifold.
Or atleast center mount

[AB]

Big Shout out to Nic and Andy, been a big 24 hours here. Not over yet but Andy and Nic were a huge help today. I still have a fair bit to do before I turn the key but we are at the pointy end. Thanks guys, appreciate your effort. You just need to put the IC on, oil drain and boost/pump lines now yeah?

[MudRunnerTD]

You just need to put the IC on, oil drain and boost/pump lines now yeah?

Just finished the oil drain. Used the black hose, came up a pissa. I had to remove the drain to cut it but took the opportunity to fit the gasket.

Removed the oil feed hose and got 160mlof oil down it. Bloody hard but got it in. The Instructions say to Fill to overflowing!! And to leave the drain off and turn the engine over until a steady stream come out of the line!!

Need to fit the IC and boost lines and fill with fluid.

[MudRunnerTD]

Sounds like you need a backwards manifold.
Or atleast center mount

Ugg Ugg ugg !

Big Hammer!

Make it fit!

Ugg!

[nissannewby]

Umm seems a bit rough mate. I though you owned a grinder and a welder? I have a bigger version of this turbo than you and managed to get the dump to fit with no firewall beating. The 6758 is not a big turbo mate. The factory manifold sits the turbos a long way back. You would have had the same issue with a china 18g. The ufi come with a dump pipe but they are very tight and only juat clear the firewall.

[nissannewby]

Just finished the oil drain. Used the black hose, came up a pissa. I had to remove the drain to cut it but took the opportunity to fit the gasket.

Removed the oil feed hose and got 160mlof oil down it. Bloody hard but got it in. The Instructions say to Fill to overflowing!! And to leave the drain off and turn the engine over until a steady stream come out of the line!!

Need to fit the IC and boost lines and fill with fluid.

It will be fine. Just let it idle for a while before revving it.

[rusty_nail]

Happy to help dazz, was great hanging out today, always good to see your big woolly head lol.
Can't wait to hear how it goes once it's done!!!


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[MudRunnerTD]

Umm seems a bit rough mate. I though you owned a grinder and a welder? I have a bigger version of this turbo than you and managed to get the dump to fit with no firewall beating. The 6758 is not a big turbo mate. The factory manifold sits the turbos a long way back. You would have had the same issue with a china 18g. The ufi come with a dump pipe but they are very tight and only juat clear the firewall.

Hi mate, yeah I actually did cut the adapter off that bend and cut another 25mm off the bend then manipulated it back on and welded the flange back on. It's a full 3" mandrel bend and it hit by a lot !! It's on a hoist tomorrow for s new dump pipe, I was hoping to use this but he will cut it off and go again. I expect he can jog it up pretty easily. Crazy tight mate!! We maybe bashed the footwell corner back maybe 20mm or so. Tight!


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[nissannewby]

Hi mate, yeah I actually did cut the adapter off that bend and cut another 25mm off the bend then manipulated it back on and welded the flange back on. It's a full 3" mandrel bend and it hit by a lot !! It's on a hoist tomorrow for s new dump pipe, I was hoping to use this but he will cut it off and go again. I expect he can jog it up pretty easily. Crazy tight mate!! We maybe bashed the footwell corner back maybe 20mm or so. Tight!


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Yeah you can get tighter bends. I used a 3" donut to make mine. It would have been fine to leave off to drive to the exhaust shop.

[rusty_nail]

Yeah you can get tighter bends. I used a 3" donut to make mine. It would have been fine to leave off to drive to the exhaust shop.
Andy did say that about a dozen or so times lol, Darren was concerned about getting exhaust on his firewall

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[AB]

Andy did say that about a dozen or so times lol, Darren was concerned about getting exhaust on his firewall Sent from my E6782 using Tapatalk He was determined...lol

[AB]

Ripper beard you got going there these day Dazman! Tis the season to be jolly :-) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk You're a wizard Harry!

[MudRunnerTD]

You're a wizard Harry!

Shit head.

[AB]

Shit head. It's bloody funny though cmon!!!!

Nailed it!

[MudRunnerTD]

It's bloody funny though cmon!!!!

Nailed it!

Hagred!!! Bloody Hagred!

[AB]

Gotta love Aussie humour, any possible inkling to put down a mate ;)

[Maxhead]

Well done lads! I'm glad a got a zd30 CRD and don't need to worry about any of these upgrades=)


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[nissannewby]

Well done lads! I'm glad a got a zd30 CRD and don't need to worry about any of these upgrades=)


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We can if you like. Would you like 50% more power and torque?

[Maxhead]

We can if you like. Would you like 50% more power and torque?

Not necessary mate, I need to wear a neck brace every time I drive it as it it;)


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[Winnie]

Not necessary mate, I need to wear a neck brace every time I drive it as it it;)


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Is that so you don't get whiplash when the grenade blows? ;)

[Maxhead]

Is that so you don't get whiplash when the grenade blows? ;)

What's this grenade thing you talking about?
Or should I ask Benny or Andy...lol

[Sir Roofy]

@ Winnie if you saw Kris driving his truck just after he got it haha it
should have died 3years ago its a beast

[Winnie]

@ Winnie if you saw Kris driving his truck just after he got it haha it
should have died 3years ago its a beast
Maybe that's the secret to making them last! Haha

[AB]

Maybe that's the secret to making them last! Haha There's actually some truth in that comment Winnie...

[Sir Roofy]

There's actually some truth in that comment Winnie...

Not wrong there Andy put the boot in drive it like you stole it

[Winnie]

There's actually some truth in that comment Winnie...
It blows the cobwebs out at the least. Lol.

How you going Dazzling? Turned key yet? MudRunnerTD

[MudRunnerTD]

It blows the cobwebs out at the least. Lol.

How you going Dazzling? Turned key yet? MudRunnerTD

I think everything is right! A couple of trips to the Autopro sorting out stupid sized clamps !! All the boost lines are sorted and the tools are cleaned up!!

Ready now for coolant and oil. Turn key. Bleed coolant and heck for leaks then road test, check for leaks and play with boost. Check for leaks. Second battery in. Just having some lunch.