Turbo Upgrades for the GUIV TD42Ti

[MB]

Looks sweet to my curvaceous gut graphs Mark mate! What are you chasing for exactly mate?


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[Rossco]

Hey Markie, bugger your not happy with it numbers look very good but not so good to drive yeah? What about swapping out just the compressor side of turbo to something smaller that spools a bit quicker? Would of hoped jpc got it spot on in the first place i spose?

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[MB]

Drop her into Low Range 1st and climb TD42T steady @ 2,100.3142 Pythagorous exactly[emoji106][emoji106]


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[Bidja]

Big exhaust wheels

Noted he has increased fuel low down from AFR 17 to 14:1 in an attempt to get boost, do you notice more smoke low down?

Those figures are good though must say, but do understand your like for more low down. Long for torque like that mid range and now I see why you like to move a long.

Mark, read your post again, why it is blowing less smoke (tune)? Have near no knowledge with waste gate design turbo but with my VNT high flowed Garrett, it was initially a bit laggy low down and to get it to spool/boost earlier, was either to give it more fuel low down or to keep the veins closed longer by reducing the actuator rod length so less vacuum to lift the actuator lever to hit the stop to keeps the veins closed longer to get the turbo to spin up faster low down. Interested to learn here,

[MB]

https://youtu.be/IUoiy22Q_lw



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[Winnie]

I had the kettle dynoéd at Dieseltec last week. Geez Andy is different person to deal with.... Anyhow, he spent the day trying different tunes and this is what he came up with.
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He came to the conclusion that a Garret GT3071 is too big for a TD42. The turbo starts making boost later in the rev range than what should be for a TD. As this has been the way since I have had it, I don't know any different. I just drive it in the power range it delivers. Boost down low would be nice, but I cannot justify spending more just for that.
He suggested if I wanted to have lower boost to get a 2863 or Similar. Meh! I just want to get rid of it now.

But atleast now there very minimal smoke. It was a choo choo train before.....This is my dyno tuned by him, 12mm pump and gtx2863
You are getting a higher output, eventually. If it were me I'd put up with it for a couple of years cos I'm sure it is still good to drive. Then go with the Borgwarner. I'm not a huge fan of the power delivery from the Garretts, it's like wait, wait, wait then all of a sudden it comes on hard.
The BW builds up more gradually and comes on full song earlier.

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[Hodge]

Why it is blowing less smoke (tune)?

Tune and they turned his fuel down..
I followed him up there and and EPA would have had a field day on him....
But on the way home it was just a haze of smoke. Much much less than pre tune..

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[Bidja]

Tune and they turned his fuel down..
I followed him up there and and EPA would have had a field day on him....
But on the way home it was just a haze of smoke. Much much less than pre tune..

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Think I read graph wrong. So the blue trace was before tune on the 12th Nov?

Black trace is current result (higher AFR)?

[Winnie]

Think I read graph wrong. So the blue trace was before tune on the 12th Nov?

Black trace is current result (higher AFR)?Black is before, blue is after.

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[Bidja]

Black is before, blue is after.

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Yeah, this is how I read it first (blue current tune with reduced AFR/richer mix).

My understanding: lower the AFR is richer the mix (more fuel)) means smoke and engine heat. Not enough fuel (a high AFR) means clean running and lower engine temperatures.

[Winnie]

Yeah, this is how I read it first (blue current tune with reduced AFR/richer mix).

My understanding: lower the AFR is richer the mix (more fuel)) means smoke and engine heat. Not enough fuel (a high AFR) means clean running and lower engine temperatures.Shit I actually got that wrong, blue is pre tune and black is post tune. So your theory is correct.

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[Bidja]

Shit I actually got that wrong, blue is pre tune and black is post tune. So your theory is correct.

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OK, ring Andy and ask which trace is current. I do think it is blue. More fuel does not necessarily mean more smoke under load, is also depends on overall tune.

If you look at your blue trace eng produces more kW / N-m and a reduced AFR (increased fuel) and fairly level. Love the result only if my CRD could a achieve this torque behavior.
Same trend (blue trace) in both your graph and Mark's tune result. Different outputs but same trend.

By the way rule of thumb:
It is best said that a diesel begins to smoke when the AFR gets below 15-14:1 for a non-turbo and 16-15:1 for a turbo-diesel.

[Winnie]

OK, ring Andy and ask which trace is current. I do think it is blue. More fuel does not necessarily mean more smoke under load, is also depends on overall tune.

If you look at your blue trace eng produces more kW / N-m and a reduced AFR (increased fuel) and fairly level. Love the result only if my CRD could a achieve this torque behavior.
Same trend (blue trace) in both your graph and Mark's tune result. Different outputs but same trend.

By the way rule of thumb:The black line on my chart is 100% the after tune.

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[Bidja]

The black line on my chart is 100% the after tune.

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OK then so, AFR higher and leaner.

[Cremulator]

The black line on my chart is 100% the after tune.

Yep, you can see there is a key with a black dot on the left for 'after adjustments' and a blue dot below for 'compare run: drive in'

[mudski]

Yeah I went in at 180rwkw and came out at 160. Less power but it runs good and no more puffing billy. I wont be changing out the turbo anytime soon. I'm done with it. Just pouring money into this thing lately and continuously chasing my tail with the cooling system. When the funds allow, I will be getting rid of the GU and buying something else.

[Bidja]

Driveability is what counts.

Guess he decided to run a bit leaner for eng reliability. Yes, a rich mix apart from causing emission issues, can make eng run hotter and be to the detriment of engine longer life.

Have read that after market turbo diesel run best around 19-20 AFR or higher under full load and a factory turbocharged diesel of about 20-22:1 or higher under load. Not to say that you cannot run a richer mix many do.

My CRD procharge stage 3 h/f turbo, runs Max boost 26psi and 19:1 AFR. Came down to 19:1 AFR from 21:1 for more fuel low down to achieve improved early boost (getting there now the need to further improve induction).

[mudski]

Driveability is what counts.

Guess he decided to run a bit leaner for eng reliability. Yes, a rich mix apart from causing emission issues, can make eng run hotter and be to the detriment of engine longer life.

Have read that after market turbo diesel run best around 19-20 AFR or higher under full load and a factory turbocharged diesel of about 20-22:1 or higher under load. Not to say that you cannot run a richer mix many do.

My CRD procharge stage 3 h/f turbo, runs Max boost 26psi and 19:1 AFR. Came down to 19:1 AFR from 21:1 for more fuel low down to achieve improved early boost (getting there now the need to further improve induction).

I told Andy at Diesel tec to back it off, as i wanted driveability pretty much. Engine was still running hot though after the tune. But a crap load less smoke. I haven't had the chance to take it for a good run yet to see the real benefits of the new tune and all the new work I have done tot he cooling system.

[Rossco]

What sort of temps you seeing and under what conditions?

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[mudski]

What sort of temps you seeing and under what conditions?

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Just normal road driving Rossco its around 10c higher than usual. There a long'ish uphill run On the Research-Warrandyte rd mate heading north bound and not even flogging it it will see 95c without an issue on a 15c day. Any sort of load and the temps get up there real quick. Its never been like this. On the up side. The better fan and the oiled up hub does get the temps down a bit faster. I need to get it on the highway and see how it fares now.

[Winnie]

Just normal road driving Rossco its around 10c higher than usual. There a long'ish uphill run On the Research-Warrandyte rd mate heading north bound and not even flogging it it will see 95c without an issue on a 15c day. Any sort of load and the temps get up there real quick. Its never been like this. On the up side. The better fan and the oiled up hub does get the temps down a bit faster. I need to get it on the highway and see how it fares now.People are putting pajero viscous fan hubs on TDs now with a pajero fan, apparently it is way better than any Nissan setup. People are saying that it helps massively with keeping temps under control but I haven't actually seen one yet.

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[PeeBee]

Mark, I am guessing you have checked the thermostat? - or changed it? I guess its the standard question, if it hasn't been like this - 'Whats changed?' More weight - new rear bar?

[mudski]

People are putting pajero viscous fan hubs on TDs now with a pajero fan, apparently it is way better than any Nissan setup. People are saying that it helps massively with keeping temps under control but I haven't actually seen one yet.

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Yeah I've seen a few of them around. Some use the Colorado fan setups too with good results. Mine was good, then all of a sudden it wasn't so good. So I want to find out why. Hopefully what I have done over the last week has worked.

[PeeBee]

People are putting pajero viscous fan hubs on TDs now with a pajero fan, apparently it is way better than any Nissan setup. People are saying that it helps massively with keeping temps under control but I haven't actually seen one yet.

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This musical fan saga seems to be going around. When I got my new motor fitted it was running a TD42 fan, then it exploded ina river crossing, so was changed for a toyota 3E fan, supposedly stronger plus higher airflow and sat back further away from the radiator core. Now, when I swap over the front components from V belt drive to serpentine, the fan supplied is a modified unit off a duramax.

[MB]

FWIW had a few stock TD42T’s and 95C up a Warrandyte hill known is very usual, even in winter. They’ll always come back down to 85C on the Yarra downside pedal off. Personally never have stressed too hard on these kettles until 105C and climbing further, uncontrollably.



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[mudski]

FWIW had a few stock TD42T’s and 95C up a Warrandyte hill known is very usual, even in winter. They’ll always come back down to 85C on the Yarra downside pedal off. Personally never have stressed too hard on these kettles until 105C and climbing further, uncontrollably.



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I have been told on many occasions Mark that its still well within its limits. But when its run a certain way for so long, then all of a sudden its different, even still within spec, its get me thinking why. Last January's trip back from Merimbula the kettle was seeing 115c without much effort when climbing some hills.
However regarding the 3071 Garret. Its had me thinking since the tune. I notice more that in 4th gear at 6k's the motor's rpm is too low for the motor to produce enough boost to get going. Its ok when your coating along a flat road. Hit a hit or slight incline and you fell the need to down shift. Different turbo, or at the least a set of 4.3's would correct this. But 4.3's is what I had, and 1st gear was almost non existant. Hence me going to 4.11's. So a differnet turbo is the fix. But I wont be doing that so the 3071 stays.

[MB]

Let’s honestly swap for a day drive around up here together old mate. My honest (mechanical nuffy) belief is that many blokes drive them (build seek) too cold?
I agree that cooling systems should have the least amount of fluctuation but 75C -95C in hilly country is all I’ve ever known of these 42 great donks!
EDIT: Can click over the magic 100C and up to 105C when heavy hauling or high country 40ambient slow stuff too but no stress still mate!

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[MudRunnerTD]

Interesting, before i did all teh mods to my GU it rear HOT A Lot. EGTs could be above 500 towing all day and be bouncing off 550 most of the day. 12 hours at 550 cant be good.!!!!

When i did the turbo i replaced the Radiator with an ADRAD Copper as per factory spec. Did the Thermostat to the 77 Trident one,Fitted teh JPC HiFlow Water pump, repacked the factory viscous hub, replaced teh fan with the G35 fan and it has never got hot again.

So to the haters.. Stick it. The Water Pump is a Winner. 40d day towing a camper at 115 and over taking to 130 and teh EGTs are nothing over 400 and the water temp gauge doesn’t move. Love it. I had a Kettle. Now I Don’t.

[MB]

Yeah but I’m $10k richer and still chugging!
(Bullshit & Beer that is :-) )


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[MB]

What sort of max water temps have you scored on the beast Daz mate?


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[MudRunnerTD]

What sort of max water temps have you scored on the beast Daz mate?


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Just the Factory guage but can honestly say i have only seen it move once in 2 years and that was from normal running at 1/3 to about 1/2.... soooo Bloody good mate. I really was concerned.

[MB]

Roger that mate, tis a beautiful truck though yours, I wish, oneday leather seats too ya funky trucker, tops !!


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[Rossco]

Mine generally behaves itself perfectly don't have an aftermarket gauge just the trusty old GQ one. Did get warm on some of the big east gippsland hills heading up in on weekend to Coota, only had a 6x4 trailer but was over 30 degrees and holding it on 100kph, got to around 2/3 on the guage which is fine but is always nice to see it under half lol. They are some pretty big hills those one which go far a fair way tho. EGTs are always low can get it too 500 but that's pushing the buggery out of it it ap a mega hill in 5th or 4th. Getting the ufi pump fitted now hopefully my issues are sorted and everything else is as good as it was if not better. .

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[Touses]

I'm actually worried mine runs to cool. Prior to the tune it just shaded 80 on the gauge with EGT's at 500 on a couple of long 4th gear pulls. This with the backpack camper, 190lts water and full fuel 145lts.
Now I can't get the thing past 75 no matter the load and EGT's max out at 450. My concern is it's not getting up to full operating temp and so not getting max efficient fuel burn.
Tea kettle?? Pah! Lucky to get a tepid shower out of it!!

[Bidja]

I'm actually worried mine runs to cool. Prior to the tune it just shaded 80 on the gauge with EGT's at 500 on a couple of long 4th gear pulls. This with the backpack camper, 190lts water and full fuel 145lts.
Now I can't get the thing past 75 no matter the load and EGT's max out at 450. My concern is it's not getting up to full operating temp and so not getting max efficient fuel burn.
Tea kettle?? Pah! Lucky to get a tepid shower out of it!!

Interested with new tune: higher boost? higher AFR?

did not mean to report your post - sorry (digit slip)

[Touses]

Interested with new tune: higher boost? higher AFR?

did not mean to report your post - sorry (digit slip)

Nah! Got about 2000k on it before tune. Went in with 146 hp came out with 166 so mechanic did a fair job on a "by ear" tune to start with.
The tune got the Ebc up n running cos was a mob of nuffies , me top of list, when it came to that thing. No idea about AFR, all 'ol mate said was he leaned out the bottom end a bit.
All Greek to me anyhow. As far as mechanical shite goes I know enough to turn the ignition key.

[Bidja]

OK, to "lean out" the AFR (Air fuel Ratio) has been increased. With bottom end he means at the lower down rev range, has reduced amount of fuel in the air fuel mix.

[Touses]

Should mention, turbo is Garret 2863 gated at 14 psi. The guys at Gympie diesel and dyno still managed to tweak 16 out of it so EBC overboost shutdown is set there.

[MB]

I'm actually worried mine runs to cool. Prior to the tune it just shaded 80 on the gauge with EGT's at 500 on a couple of long 4th gear pulls. This with the backpack camper, 190lts water and full fuel 145lts.
Now I can't get the thing past 75 no matter the load and EGT's max out at 450. My concern is it's not getting up to full operating temp and so not getting max efficient fuel burn.
Tea kettle?? Pah! Lucky to get a tepid shower out of it!!

Have tried searching before for the official TD42T optimal water running temperature Touses mate to no avail. I would assume it’s somewhere between 80-90C like most others. I know my utes 6.5NA is military listed at 88C and ran a whole lot more stable once I exchanged the Aussie 76C TS’s for correct Yanky 88C TS’s for its spec.


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[Touses]

Have tried searching before for the official TD42T optimal water running temperature Touses mate to no avail. I would assume it’s somewhere between 80-90C like most others. I know my utes 6.5NA is military listed at 88C and ran a whole lot more stable once I exchanged the Aussie 76C TS’s for correct Yanky 88C TS’s for its spec.


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Was beginning to think along those lines, hotter thermostat. 82-85 if I can source one.

[MB]

Found a good read on another site mate.
https://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/engine-drivetrain-55/engine-running-hot-td42-62472/#/topics/62472
Varying 82-85-89C tests with blocking bypass once opening that may assist mudski too.


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[MB]

That’s weird, correct linky didn’t work and can’t edit my post :-)


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[MB]

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/11/157.jpg


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[Touses]

Found a good read on another site mate.
https://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/engine-drivetrain-55/engine-running-hot-td42-62472/#/topics/62472
Varying 82-85-89C tests with blocking bypass once opening that may assist mudski too.


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Ta for that link mate, worked ok for me. Will trundle down to local auto parts store n have him check for 85 deg ts. Looked at patrol a part, only listing the 76.5.

[MB]

Thinking we might start off giving an 82C one a go this summer in the Mrs GU TD42T after reading that blokes trials, worth a cheap crack at them all really.
Just taking her wagon for a run now across town to properly compare the stock temp gauge versus Redarc aftermarket one.
50C it starts to move off stock guage ‘C’
60C it hits 1/3
70C it hits about 1mm under half
Wasn’t able to hit any steep long hills the way I’ve come but do know the stock guage won’t budge beyond 1/2 until some 95C+.
That’s over a 25C variance that Nissan has kindly built in for customer satisfaction:-)
Really keen to oneday find out exactly what their official operating water temp is if anyone can kindly help out there?




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[PeeBee]

Hey mark, not surprised as factory gauges are typically 'lagged' so the punter does not get alarmed at the rate of rise or even the temp it is sitting at. My daily drive does not even have a temp gauge as the powers to be believe that , I quote 'the driver of such a vehicle should not be bothered with the temperature of the engine as it is a distraction to the driving experience' - like right, this is Australia - 3 yrs ago it was so hot up in the Canberra area that my bonnet emblem popped off the bonnet sometime after I parked it, somewhere around the 43degc day, after a 7 hour drive, so no idea how hot that poor bonnet got! I am a big believer in 'more information is gooder'.

[Hodge]

I am a big believer in 'more information is gooder'.

Spot on PeeBee.
Which is exactly why I opted to fit a secondary standalone gauge , after so many people told me not to worry about it , just "Trust" the factory needle. If it nears the red , then begin to worry about it.

I like direct feedback, as you can monitor how different driving behaviour influences the temps, and the adjust to suit.

You can also tell more precisely how different mods influence the temps ... Like different fans, spotties in front , new radiator etc ...

Something your lazy Nissan needle will not tell you .

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[PeeBee]

Found a good read on another site mate.
https://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/engine-drivetrain-55/engine-running-hot-td42-62472/#/topics/62472
Varying 82-85-89C tests with blocking bypass once opening that may assist mudski too.


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This is a great bit of info. I read the first page - does it actually go for 76 pages or am I misreading it? If it does, surely the problem is fixed by now?????

[MB]

Agreed mate, a super decent effort he put in to help others from his experience found. Only read the first few pages too but this thread here is also at 548 top posts of really decent stuff, especially the early relevant topic ones, my bad of late :-)


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[Hodge]

Alright, I'm gonna re-route this thread back to the original roots for a moment...
Since Darren began this journey and we have the identical models, I've always had it on the cards to do the same.
Time to get the ball rolling !!
I don't overheat and my EGT's I'm yet to push past 400-420. But am yet to be in a demanding scenario though. The HT18 right now is on its upper reaches of efficiency after last tune. It has no more to give.

I'm not chasing more ponies as such. Just a bit of torque. And I'd like the car to run "optimum". I know and can feel it has MORE to give.

As well as watching Matty guide and recommend things, I've also spoken to the tuner at JPC and last week had a good chat with Andy at diesel tec. After telling them my scenario and wants and needs.
All is pretty much unanimous. A better suited turbo and give the car more air to breathe will make this vehicle much more fluent.
I'd like to retain my factory pump. 11mm from what I believe. Will also give the car 4" of air to the snail...
I'd like mine pretty much to be a carbon copy of Darrens with the turbo.

Time & mechanical skill will be my biggest enemy here, as I doubt I'll be able to hit the job my self and have the car off the road for a days while I work on it.
My goal is to gather as much of parts and pieces as possible and hit the job sometime late Jan, start of Feb. And at this stage, my plan is to give the car to DieselTec with all parts, and call me when it's done.
I guess largest hurdle will be how to liaise everything to get the dump pipe fabricated. :confused:


1/ Darren installed an inline pump. Is this really needed since I'll be retaining my injector pump?

2/ Is it viable to fit a 4" intake to HT18, at least temporarily? I understand there will be a reduction between the airbox and the turbo.
This way at least I can break the job into portions and can have this part done prior to turbo and I'm confident I can do this part my self at least. I just don't know what intake size HT18 is? And how one would adapt 4" airbox into it.

MudRunnerTD PM sent mate.

Below posts are Andy's list of parts and guides on what to and how to ! Which will be the core of my part gathering.
Thanks to AB part list and guide !!!

Andy's post #29 (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?38704-Turbo-Upgrades-for-the-GUIV-TD42Ti&p=702180&viewfull=1#post702180)


Andy's post #151 (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?38704-Turbo-Upgrades-for-the-GUIV-TD42Ti&p=704335&viewfull=1#post704335)

[MudRunnerTD]

Fit your airbox and snork to suit 4" and run your 4" plumbing all the way to the turbo and then a reducer onto the turbo. You might need to swap rhe reducer for the new turbo if at all, the rest will be perfect.

Staying with the CC top mount mate? You have spent the money so cant imagine you swapping it out.

The lift pump really is a bonus as the fuel pump relies on vacuum a lift pump feeds the pump. Such a small inbestment it was a no brainer mate.

[Rossco]

If your taking everything to Andy to fit just get him to take it to lilydale mufflers & towbars. Only a minute away and are really good, will be able to do a dump pipe no probs. If you need anything stainless between airbox & turbo can do that 2. .

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[Rossco]

Hey Hodge, what airbox you running currently and are you changing / upgrading? I wouldn't bother running 4" to HT18 I would just do it all together when the turbo goes in, likely it won't line up from old to new and will be a waste of time/ money to do twice, that's what happened with mine from Safari to Borg Warner. Also Andy usually takes off most of Jan but probably good to get in once he's nice and refreshed hopefully [emoji6]

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[Hodge]

Fit your airbox and snork to suit 4" and run your 4" plumbing all the way to the turbo and then a reducer onto the turbo. You might need to swap rhe reducer for the new turbo if at all, the rest will be perfect.

Staying with the CC top mount mate? You have spent the money so cant imagine you swapping it out.

The lift pump really is a bonus as the fuel pump relies on vacuum a lift pump feeds the pump. Such a small inbestment it was a no brainer mate.

I'll definitely be keeping the big cooler. Bit of coin involved in that, so it's staying, and it definitely does the job.
I guess I'll look at the inline pump too. That's one of the things that can be added any time so, not a priority.


If your taking everything to Andy to fit just get him to take it to lilydale mufflers & towbars. Only a minute away and are really good, will be able to do a dump pipe no probs. If you need anything stainless between airbox & turbo can do that 2.

Ok cheers. I'll ring him up and ask if he'd be happy to arrange something like that.
Taking it there is just something I'm toying with now. When he returns I guess, he may or may not be booked out well into Feb or beyond. BUT, I am in no great rush.



Hey Hodge, what airbox you running currently and are you changing / upgrading? I wouldn't bother running 4" to HT18 I would just do it all together when the turbo goes in, likely it won't line up from old to new and will be a waste of time/ money to do twice, that's what happened with mine from Safari to Borg Warner. Also Andy usually takes off most of Jan but probably good to get in once he's nice and refreshed hopefully


Currently just a factory box with a Safari snorkel.
As Darren mentioned above reason I'd like to do this prior is to break the job into portions... I'm not fussed if I have to replace a hose or a reducer when the new snail goes on.

I'll catch up with Darren soon and I'll have a look and a chat about his one up close and personal.
A little part of me wants to attack this my self. I know a lot of it is just nuts and bolts.
My main concern or those water and oil hoses. If I could get my head around them. Can't see much of it being rocket science.

But I'll see !!

[Rossco]

Yeah have a go for sure Hodgey sure you'll be right, will definitely be a SUBSTANTIAL saving doing stuff yourself. Once you have the turbo you'll be able to workl out fittings plus look @ Dazs or another TD and work it where stuff needs to go then do a Pirtek visit. .

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[Hodge]

Yeah have a go for sure Hodgey sure you'll be right, will definitely be a SUBSTANTIAL saving doing stuff yourself. Once you have the turbo you'll be able to workl out fittings plus look @ Dazs or another TD and work it where stuff needs to go then do a Pirtek visit. .


Yeah I am definitely keen on attacking this . As i am in no rush, I'll have ample time to do research, gather bits etc... and grow larger knackers to do the job lol.

Been reading a lot this morning about this turbo. Old mav on the other forum has some pretty decent tech info on this too.

Also found nissannewbys thread too from last year. Lot of good info and photos giving a clear idea on whats going on.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?39339-Borg-Warner-EFR6758

[Hodge]

Dumb question ...
Is it possible , that a fitting kit, mainly oil and water ins and out hoses , from another turbo would suit the Borg Warner. Or are the threads & sizes of fittings unique to BW , hence why a a custom assembly of parts has to be bought and made ?

I notice the Mamba and Kinugawa turbos have pre built kits for a TD42 everywhere.

Example :
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2 F172736554894


Also this is the best price . I've found this far for the turbo.

https://www.sparesbox.com.au/part/borg-warner-turbocharger-efr6758-0-64a-r-t25-iwg-efr179388sp


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[MudRunnerTD]

Dumb question ...
Is it possible , that a fitting kit, mainly oil and water ins and out hoses , from another turbo would suit the Borg Warner. Or are the threads & sizes of fittings unique to BW , hence why a a custom assembly of parts has to be bought and made ?

I notice the Mamba and Kinugawa turbos have pre built kits for a TD42 everywhere.

Example :
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2 F172736554894


Also this is the best price . I've found this far for the turbo.

https://www.sparesbox.com.au/part/borg-warner-turbocharger-efr6758-0-64a-r-t25-iwg-efr179388sp


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AB was my guide for fittings and hoses mate. His head was all over it.

[AB]

Can you park your car up in the shed for a couple of days Hodgey?

If so then the best way to do it is to mount your turbo and create your own lines using wire like a coat hanger with the best path to each feed/drain.

Then with your old turbo lines, new wire paths and the New turbo take all that into Pirtek and get them to create it all for you.

You should be able to utilise some of your old lines to save $ but just see what they say mate.

They'll match threads etc and work their wizardry!

My pic below pretty much shows all of the lines.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/11/175.jpg


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[Hodge]

Can you park your car up in the shed for a couple of days Hodgey?

If so then the best way to do it is to mount your turbo and create your own lines using wire like a coat hanger with the best path to each feed/drain.

Then with your old turbo lines, new wire paths and the New turbo take all that into Pirtek and get them to create it all for you.

You should be able to utilise some of your old lines to save $ but just see what they say mate.

They'll match threads etc and work their wizardry!

My pic below pretty much shows all of the lines.



Thanks Andy!
With any luck I'll be able to slot it into our diesel mechanics workshop for a few days as Pirtek is literally 7 doors down in Tullamarine.
It's a lot for me to swallow as ive never had a go at something like this.


So the most detrimental part is that oil drain right ? Has to be easy flowing with minimal bends or kinks to dispose of oil.
This was your initial down fall???


I have been reading the huge EFR6758 thread on the other forum and fark me dead, my head hurts.
Maybe I'm looking into it way too deeply lol.

[AB]

Thanks Andy!
With any luck I'll be able to slot it into our diesel mechanics workshop for a few days as Pirtek is literally 7 doors down in Tullamarine.
It's a lot for me to swallow as ive never had a go at something like this.


So the most detrimental part is that oil drain right ? Has to be easy flowing with minimal bends or kinks to dispose of oil.
This was your initial down fall???


I have been reading the huge EFR6758 thread on the other forum and fark me dead, my head hurts.
Maybe I'm looking into it way too deeply lol.

Hey mate no the turbo itself was the issue but I had to spend a shipload of time proving it was the turbo and not my set up.

You've got the factory oil drain though yeah?


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[Hodge]

Hey mate no the turbo itself was the issue but I had to spend a shipload of time proving it was the turbo and not my set up.

You've got the factory oil drain though yeah?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYeah mate identical to Darren's.
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[AB]

Ok cool your drain will be fine mate, just make sure it's a nice smooth curve direct path to it and it'll be fine.


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[Hodge]

Tiny bit frustrating. Ringing around a few places to try and get an idea of price, stock & waiting periods on the turbo.
So far 2/3 places, are trying to shove some sort of a Garret down my throat. lol

[Rossco]

Tried MTQ?

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[Hodge]

Tried MTQ?

I did Rossco. He wasn't overly keen on selling BW stuff.

[Hodge]

Ok, here is a list of the MAIN components I think I need to order. This is a copy of AB's list from earlier on, but with updated links.
AB & MudRunnerTD, when you get a moment do you mind confirming these sound correct?

Obviously there is other gear I'm missing, which I haven't been able to find info on.

- Dump pipe - will be made at shop
- Hoses will be made at Pirtek - I still have to find exact fitting sizes.
- My current turbo has a Turbo smart boost controller... Will this be suitable? (Will get photo later)
- What assortment of studs will I need if any ?





1/ Borg Warner EFR6758 Turbocharger T25/V-Band 0.64a

https://gcg.com.au/petrol-performance/performance-3/turbochargers-borg-warner/borg-warner-efr6758-turbocharger-t25-v-band-detail

2/ Outlet Flange Borg Warner EFR Series

https://gcg.com.au/petrol-performance/performance-3/turbocharger-flanges/outlet-flange-borg-warner-efr-series-detail

3/ Oil Drain Kit GT/GTX/EFR Series 22mm Hose Barb

https://gcg.com.au/petrol-performance/performance-2/oil-drain-fittings-accessories/oil-drain-kit-gt-gtx-efr-series-22mm-hose-barb-detail

4/ V-Band Clamp GT/GTX30 GT/GTX35 GTW T04Z EFR Turbine Housing Outlet
https://gcg.com.au/petrol-performance/performance-4/v-band-clamps/v-band-clamp-gt-gtx30-gt-gtx35-gtw-t04z-efr-turbine-housing-outlet-detail

5/ Inlet Flange Adaptor T25 to T3

https://gcg.com.au/petrol-performance/performance-3/turbocharger-flanges/inlet-flange-adaptor-t25-to-t3-detail

6/ T3 Flange Multilayer Gasket

http://www.sonicperformance.com.au/94932/T3-Flange-Multilayer-Gasket/pd.php

7/ Turbine Inlet Gasket (Multi Layer) T25/T28

https://gcg.com.au/petrol-performance/performance-3/turbo-gaskets/turbine-inlet-gasket-multi-layer-t25-t28-detail

[AB]

Sorry mate I'm under the pump tonight with kids and setting up Xmas tree even though elves will be killed before December 1st!

This link should have the fittings required https://www.full-race.com/articles/efr-install-guidelines/

Image below for oil

Try and find our engine fittings for these or even take your old lines into pirtek and they'll sort you out or someone else can shimmy in.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/11/182.jpg


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[Hodge]

Sorry mate I'm under the pump tonight with kids and setting up Xmas tree even though elves will be killed before December 1st!



No stress at all Andy! Thank you!
Doing exactly the same as we speak..... Fall prevention un-necessary with this little guy!
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[Rossco]

Picked up the old bannga from Cornells and far out pretty happy lol. Fair increase in power & torque, more than i expected as i thought they were going to err well on the safe side of things! Anyway it's under 700nm which I'm happy with safety wise (just!) definitely don't want to go any further but has more potential to give. Low down pull is a Maaaaaasive increase to what it was and has erased any doubts I had that that was the way it was and was normal, response and pull from idle is frick'n awesome! ! Anyway just been driving it like a grandma so far but it's sooooo much more driveable now, can just cruise and it munches up hills with ease. So far egts and temp been very low. . .http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/11/183.jpg

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[MudRunnerTD]

Thats a great result mate. What did they have tonsay about it? Where they familiar with the BW? Is that comparison run your run on day one using the other pump? That is nearlly embarassing if thats the best old mate could get from his own pump!!!

Interesting. We should have a chat mate

[Rossco]

Good outcome Rossco, did they resolve the fuel tank leak or have you sorted that out?Yeah they fixed that was the sender. Filled it up again and all good.
Thats a great result mate. What did they have tonsay about it? Where they familiar with the BW? Is that comparison run your run on day one using the other pump? That is nearlly embarassing if thats the best old mate could get from his own pump!!!

Interesting. We should have a chat mateYep comparison was from drive in on old pump, thought it was putting out a little more than that actually. If it weren't for issues i would have been more than happy with it, once it was up & running was absolutely great but down low hopeless and starting issues. Many occasions pulled out into a small gap in traffic and would feel like it was stopped dead then would go once built up a bit of speed, which is not ideal lol.

Think they were pretty impressed, said it was one of the highest powered TDs they'd done, not sure they had much to do with BWs on TDs before. Certainly credit to the Queensland boys and AB for such awesome R&D pretty easy for us to reap the benefits now lol. Been very happy with Cornells too pretty impressive set up over there, clean as a whistle place. .

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[Hodge]

Bunch of parts have been ordered & en route .

Had a chat to Pirtek just before , showed him some photos of Darren's, Mat's and Andy's fittings for a rough idea of what's needed and he said no dramas.

The ball is rolling !


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[Winnie]

Bunch of parts have been ordered & en route .

Had a chat to Pirtek just before , showed him some photos of Darren's, Mat's and Andy's fittings for a rough idea of what's needed and he said no dramas.

The ball is rolling !


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[Hodge]

Wow no stuffing around mate, nice work!

Sent from my SM-G960F using TapatalkYeah mate , the main event is still months away.
I figured I'd put the parts sourcing into action now, and slowly build the stock pile.
Still a bit of homework to do & head spinning, mainly with hose fittings. But it's a start , and the end results i can't wait to see !

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[Winnie]

Yeah mate , the main event is still months away.
I figured I'd put the parts sourcing into action now, and slowly build the stock pile.
Still a bit of homework to do & head spinning, mainly with hose fittings. But it's a start , and the end results i can't wait to see !

Sent from my SM-N920I using TapatalkThere isn't much to it mate, with some tech help from the forum you will be fine to do it mate!

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[MudRunnerTD]

Yeah they fixed that was the sender. Filled it up again and all good. Yep comparison was from drive in on old pump, thought it was putting out a little more than that actually. If it weren't for issues i would have been more than happy with it, once it was up & running was absolutely great but down low hopeless and starting issues. Many occasions pulled out into a small gap in traffic and would feel like it was stopped dead then would go once built up a bit of speed, which is not ideal lol.

Think they were pretty impressed, said it was one of the highest powered TDs they'd done, not sure they had much to do with BWs on TDs before. Certainly credit to the Queensland boys and AB for such awesome R&D pretty easy for us to reap the benefits now lol. Been very happy with Cornells too pretty impressive set up over there, clean as a whistle place. .

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Yeah you look like you get a fair bit more earlier than i do actually. I will take a pic of mine and post it here to compare

[MudRunnerTD]

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[MudRunnerTD]

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[MudRunnerTD]

Yeah wow. If those speeds are correct then regardless of the tacho your peaking at 75 to 80kms/h and im just winding up to peak at 90! That is nearly a gear!! Wow

At 70kmh im producing about 100kw and you have 140kw already.

At 80kmh your on boil at 165kw and im just thinking about it at 140kw! I dont see 165kw to about 105kmh. Jesus! Thats a big difference.

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[MudRunnerTD]

Thats got my attention mate. Kinda lagging a little by comparison. And 120 extra newton metres.

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[MudRunnerTD]

What size tyres and diff ratios are you running mate?

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[MudRunnerTD]

This thread is a great resource mate. FACEBOOK could never compare to the depth of information laid out here. Shame sooo many rely on FB for their info. They troll here then become FB mechanics overnight.

Glad your finding your way Eric. Pics tell 1000 stories.

[AB]

Rosscos on 35" and 4.6's mate.


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[MudRunnerTD]

Rosscos on 35" and 4.6's mate.


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Hmmm ok so the 35 will suck a little and the 4.6s will make a fair bit of difference id think to that power curve?

[AB]

Hmmm ok so the 35 will suck a little and the 4.6s will make a fair bit of difference id think to that power curve?

Absolutely but its both and give and take. would probably equate to 31-33" on 4.3's maybe?

[Hodge]

This thread is a great resource mate. FACEBOOK could never compare to the depth of information laid out here. Shame sooo many rely on FB for their info. They troll here then become FB mechanics overnight.

Glad your finding your way Eric. Pics tell 1000 stories.100% spot on Darren.
This thread alone is testament to absolutely priceless information and guidance , most of which you couldn't buy ,if you tried outside this forum.
I've learnt that over the last few days alone ringing around for parts ...
There's some legends on this forum mate! That's for sure.

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[Rossco]

Yep, my 4by would be nothing like it is now if it wasn't for this place. . .

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[MudRunnerTD]

Yep, my 4by would be nothing like it is now if it wasn't for this place. . .

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I blame AB !!!!!

[MudRunnerTD]

Absolutely but its both and give and take. would probably equate to 31-33" on 4.3's maybe?

Im feeling a little better.... 😎

[Winnie]

Absolutely but its both and give and take. would probably equate to 31-33" on 4.3's maybe?Yeah would be equal to 33s on 4.3s and 31s on 4.1s

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[Rossco]

Yeah my bank balance wouldn't be anything like it is if it wasnt for this place either LMAO [emoji38]

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[Hodge]

Yeah my bank balance wouldn't be anything like it is if it wasnt for this place either LMAO [emoji38]

Sent from my SM-G930F using TapatalkYup.. lol

Everytime I have this thread open, my CommBank app crashes .... Coincidence?

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[Touses]

Yup.. lol

Everytime I have this thread open, my CommBank app crashes .... Coincidence?

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I've only got to glance at mine n the bank nazi/wife say's NO

[Winnie]

Im feeling a little better.... [emoji41]Certainly doesn't make up the difference though mate, not even close.
Like we discussed, if you are happy with what you've got then leave it but it certainly shows what you can do.

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[AB]

Yep if anything Rosscos should be lacking more with the tyres V ratios.

[Rossco]

Definitely feels very strong in the bottom end and does love to pull around the 2k mark and is quite different to before, kindo used to it having nothing then coming in form 1500 ish. Even in neutral can tell the difference when you give it a little rev sounds pretty beastly now. Need to drive it a bit more to get more of a feel for it. Interesting to see the difference between mine & Daz's seeing their such similar setups, sounds like his loves pulling in the top end where as mine seems happier in the bottom wonder if that is down to tuning? ? Either way both setups sounds good, proof is in the pudding if it's good to drive happy days. .

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[Hodge]

Gents.
I'm either blind or failed search school... and some links to GCG in this thread are stuffed.

I recall somewhere in the thread Darren or Mat linked the replacement can.... I just cannot find it!?

I need to know which can to order. The bloke at GCG asked this, as with all Borg's that hes sold, people have bought 1 or 2 different ones.
Is it the high boost one?? 16-32psi?

https://gcg.com.au/petrol-performance/performance-4/wastegates-accessories-internal/wastegate-actuator-efr-b1-t25-v-band-high-boost-16-8psi-32-3psi-detail


Everything else I think I have covered.

[MudRunnerTD]

Yes higher boost actuator

[MudRunnerTD]

Yep if anything Rosscos should be lacking more with the tyres V ratios.

Id have thought that his rev range at 75kmh would be similar to mine at 85kmh. So the missing link in comparing the readouts is that mine doesnt show RPM which would really show the differential.

[nissannewby]

Thats got my attention mate. Kinda lagging a little by comparison. And 120 extra newton metres.

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Its all irrelevant on the dyno. It has corrections in place for the calculation. We have been seeing this quite a bit and you can see it on ABs setup. A silvertop cam will bring on everything earlier over the t/ti cam.

Without actually worrying about what the numbers say the silvertop cam will roughly do everything aroind 400rpm earlier.

Also dont get to caught up in the differences between the dyno printouts. Dynos are just tools that we use for diagnostics and comparison. Trying to compare them to each other is very difficult.

[nissannewby]

This is the closest thing I have to be able to show you the difference. These 2 patrols have a very similar setup. Both bw turbos, both ruben 12mm, both front mounts.
Laying them over each other like this corrects them as if they were both done in similar conditions. Even though these 2 vehicles were done on the same dyno 1 after the other. The main difference one is a silvertop one is a td42t. Curves are basically the same shape but the silvertop does everything earlier. Peak numbers are similar.

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[Hodge]

Yes higher boost actuatorOk cheers.
Think I found everything local and in stock.
Except the main bird. The big Borg.

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[MudRunnerTD]

This is the closest thing I have to be able to show you the difference. These 2 patrols have a very similar setup. Both bw turbos, both ruben 12mm, both front mounts.
Laying them over each other like this corrects them as if they were both done in similar conditions. Even though these 2 vehicles were done on the same dyno 1 after the other. The main difference one is a silvertop one is a td42t. Curves are basically the same shape but the silvertop does everything earlier. Peak numbers are similar.

77022


Interesting. Thats basically the difference i see between Rossco and mine.

[Hodge]

Has anybody dealt with Sparesbox before?

They seem to have 5 units sitting in Melbourne, according to their eBay site. But i don't trust that...
It could be one of those, listed in Melbourne, but really have to wait for the container from USA once ordered deals!
They also seem to be the cheapest, around $2200 with eBay discount.

https://www.sparesbox.com.au/part/borg-warner-turbocharger-efr6758-0-64a-r-t25-iwg-efr179388sp

[PeeBee]

I have bought a bit of gear from them over the last couple of years, small biscuit stuff though. I found them straight forward to deal with and prompt delivery. Never had anything supplied on back order.

[Hodge]

I have bought a bit of gear from them over the last couple of years, small biscuit stuff though. I found them straight forward to deal with and prompt delivery. Never had anything supplied on back order.

Thanks PeeBee. I just find it odd, that nobody else can get me one for way after Christmas... yet these guys have 5 sitting there apparently.
I've sent them a message waiting for reply.
Not that i'm in the rush. If they have one sitting there, I may snap one up.

[nissannewby]

Thanks PeeBee. I just find it odd, that nobody else can get me one for way after Christmas... yet these guys have 5 sitting there apparently.
I've sent them a message waiting for reply.
Not that i'm in the rush. If they have one sitting there, I may snap one up.

Would you like some assistance with this hodge? I can get most of what you need to mount it for not much more than that turbo price alone.

[Hodge]

Would you like some assistance with this hodge? I can get most of what you need to mount it for not much more than that turbo price alone.

Absolutely mate!! I've been meaning to PM you anyway!!
Legend.

[Hodge]

Paid a quick visit to MudRunnerTD today. Had a "in person" look at the turbo job. All nice 'n stuff, until we went for a drive...
Words are beyond me folks, the pure pull his car delivers, and the ease it does it with, its unreal ! I've been in a few TD's, but this is next level.

Now we have pretty much identical cars, he's got a few more trickery bits, like the pump, 4.1's, etc... But if even a portion of the torque I felt today is Borg Warner setup, i'll be a happy man! Cannot even begin to compare it to mine this moment. They are in different leagues.

Put it this way, he's had this car like this for a while now... And if even to this day makes him grin and giggle when he opens up the tap, you can only imagine how I felt !!!!! Now I cannot wait !

Thanks for having me MudRunnerTD !

[Rob521]

Does anyone have a photo of their BorgWarners with the turbosmart dual port actuator? Have almost all of my parts and am trying to figure out how to make my wastegate work with the new actuator. Cheers

[Rob521]

Home stretch for me, just waiting for the oil feed line. Will hopefully have the car back on the road for the first time in 4 months on Monday.

[0-TJ-0]

Did you have to reposition the power steering cooler MR or did you just retire it?

I read a bit where you talked about taking it off but can't find if you talked about re mounting it. Had a bit of a read but if it's amongst the 600 or so replies I've missed it haha.

[MudRunnerTD]

Did you have to reposition the power steering cooler MR or did you just retire it?

I read a bit where you talked about taking it off but can't find if you talked about re mounting it. Had a bit of a read but if it's amongst the 600 or so replies I've missed it haha.

hi mate, no i just bent the mounts and re-mounted it in the same location but much closer to the radiator.

[ROGQ]

So just read through all 62 pages of this and wow I’m sold on a BW setup. One thing I haven’t seen covered too much is what exhaust manifold are people running? I have a TD42 silver top with a dealer optioned Safari turbo at the moment. Has anyone done one of these with a high mount manifold as I plan to do this with a CC top mount for simplicity. Also has anyone successfully fitted one to a GQ? From what I can gather they are a tight fit in the GU’s.

[AB]

So just read through all 62 pages of this and wow I’m sold on a BW setup. One thing I haven’t seen covered too much is what exhaust manifold are people running? I have a TD42 silver top with a dealer optioned Safari turbo at the moment. Has anyone done one of these with a high mount manifold as I plan to do this with a CC top mount for simplicity. Also has anyone successfully fitted one to a GQ? From what I can gather they are a tight fit in the GU’s.

Hey mate, yep I have had on a silver top in GQ and currently have one in the GQ with TD42T.

Yep its a tight fit but not hard. My slight issue was the wastgate actuator close to the body where the tower brace sits in. Slight little panel beating to allow enough room for engine movement.

Both of mine have been standard exhaust manifold with the T adaptor.

I reckon the high mount would prob be better to be honest as you will be further away from the tower brace area.

[ROGQ]

Hey AB thanks for the info...

Did you purchase the Turbosmart actuator that the other guys have been using?

Yeah high mount is the plan, I like how neat and tidy and high up they are with the top mount cooler. Less piping and less to go wrong in my opinion. Was just wondering if there is a reason why anyone isn’t running with one.

Was it worth all the hassle? Was hoping someone would be doing a kit for them by now lol 🤷*♂️

[AB]

Hey AB thanks for the info...

Did you purchase the Turbosmart actuator that the other guys have been using?

Yeah high mount is the plan, I like how neat and tidy and high up they are with the top mount cooler. Less piping and less to go wrong in my opinion. Was just wondering if there is a reason why anyone isn’t running with one.

Was it worth all the hassle? Was hoping someone would be doing a kit for them by now lol 路*♂️

I think most just use the standard turbo manifold that was on the TD42's for the HT18's maybe mate but definitely can't see any issue if not better for your high mount position.

Keen to see some pics if you head down this path mate.

Most of the bugs have now been ironed out for you mate so should be a fairly straight forward install and yes 100% worth the hassle, very responsive and efficient little turbo with extremely good torque very low in the rev range, huge winner!

[AB]

Just had a thought mate, pretty sure the high mount is angled enough for your top mount CC to work yeah?


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[ROGQ]

Yeah I have no idea haha that’s why I was wondering if anyone has done it. I haven’t actually purchased the CC yet, I’ll be buying all that with the turbo. Does anyone know a good off the shelf high mount manifold to start with?

Yeah defiantly will. I’ve just purchased a granny spec 93 model auto. It’s super tidy with only 200k on the clock. I’m selling my gq dual cab and going to build more of a touring rig for the family this time round.

Sounds like what I’m after. I want to be able to comfortably overtake on the highway when towing and hold speed on the big hills.

[MudRunnerTD]

So on the weekend the wife had to drive @MBs White GUII only a few kms but up and down hills. his is stock as a rock. LOL. She walked back in to the room where i was and there was no "Hello" but her opening remark was "Thank You for the Turbo!"

I was a little hung over to be honest and had no idea what she was on about... Then realised she had just driven a stock TD42T non intercooled. Then i pissed myself laughing. Naomi drives our GUIV as her daily and is very used to how it delivers power. She was dumbfounded at how gutless the stock GU was by comparison to what she drives now.

[AB]

Yeah I have no idea haha that’s why I was wondering if anyone has done it. I haven’t actually purchased the CC yet, I’ll be buying all that with the turbo. Does anyone know a good off the shelf high mount manifold to start with?

Yeah defiantly will. I’ve just purchased a granny spec 93 model auto. It’s super tidy with only 200k on the clock. I’m selling my gq dual cab and going to build more of a touring rig for the family this time round.

Sounds like what I’m after. I want to be able to comfortably overtake on the highway when towing and hold speed on the big hills.

I have the safari turbo on my work GQ, just had a look and its a shipload of clearance mate.

Take a pic of your engine bay if you want mate and upload it here.

[Ines]

No such thing as "Hi Flow" injectors. The injectors will deliver what they pump puts out. I would just get yours reco or exchanged and set to standard pressures. A lift pump is also highly recommended and I will give you the same recommendation as winnie, Carter 4600 or 4601.

[MB]

Your educated words have just echoed in my Nuffy head thanks Ines mate.
Top QLD blokes once kindly tried teaching me, albeit was on the piss at the time of true guru lessons!
“Hi-Flow” injectors, do some of us possibly confuse with ‘High Crack Open Pressure’
IIRC. If a say top/best built 12mm diesel pump could create higher pressure would an other than standard injector be needed to maximise the force feeding, fuel & modified air incoming mate?


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[0-TJ-0]

Did you have any issues with the standard cruise control hunting after your upgrade MudRunnerTD ?

The extra power is great but now the cruise gives me motion sickness haha.

I've read on other forums the easiest way is just to switch to an aftermarket system but I'd prefer not do that if possible. I also thought I can probably build something to buffer the vacuum control unit.. but I thought I'd ask around first.

[MudRunnerTD]

Did you have any issues with the standard cruise control hunting after your upgrade MudRunnerTD ?

The extra power is great but now the cruise gives me motion sickness haha.

I've read on other forums the easiest way is just to switch to an aftermarket system but I'd prefer not do that if possible. I also thought I can probably build something to buffer the vacuum control unit.. but I thought I'd ask around first.

No. I have no issues at all. I use Cruise constantly. Non issues

[0-TJ-0]

Wierd. Mine you can feel every adjustment the cruise makes. Need to find a way to buffer it.

[MudRunnerTD]

Wierd. Mine you can feel every adjustment the cruise makes. Need to find a way to buffer it.

I wonder what nissannewby has to say about that?

[MudRunnerTD]

This deserves to be posted here

82040

[DSPIES]

Gday folks,

given the interest in the BW setup, is there anyone in Melbourne doing a drive in drive out install yet?

[Hodge]

Gday folks,

given the interest in the BW setup, is there anyone in Melbourne doing a drive in drive out install yet?Hey mate.
When I had intentions of doing it , I rang around to several places and nobody wanted to touch the job.
I made it clear ,I'd have all the parts etc ...
From memory I rang eastern turbo , Mtq, jpc, .
They all gave me the spiel about why I'd go down that path with all the already off the shelf kits available etc .


I spoke to dieseltec, and he was somewhat keen ,. It did say there is a fair bit of work involved so... Would cost a chunk of $$$.

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[DSPIES]

thanks Hodge.

after they gave you the speil about their off the shelf kits, did they lead into complaining about online retailers killing bricks and mortar retailers. It just seems to me that if there is another product out there (BW), which is sought after, a retailer or installer would want to get on board and make a bit of coin out of selling/installing it, rather than directing the consumer back to a product the consumer isn't 100% keen on.

I've also had a look at a UFI 18G with an intercooler and to be honest, there's a fair bit of coin in getting that installed too. I'd just rather drop the coin on a product i think i'd be happier with.

Unfortunately i don't have the mechanical skills, tools or confidence to deal with sh*t if the installer got halfway through the install and had to give me a call to say something was missing or the piping wasn't right. My concern is heightened when there isn't a 'kit' available. Hence i appreciate the installer also adds a few $s to take on the risk and previous R&D for getting the kit/install right.

thanks again.

[nissannewby]

Hey mate.
When I had intentions of doing it , I rang around to several places and nobody wanted to touch the job.
I made it clear ,I'd have all the parts etc ...
From memory I rang eastern turbo , Mtq, jpc, .
They all gave me the spiel about why I'd go down that path with all the already off the shelf kits available etc .


I spoke to dieseltec, and he was somewhat keen ,. It did say there is a fair bit of work involved so... Would cost a chunk of $$$.

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Looking back I should have done this when the chance presented itself. The rep I use to get the borg Warner's through at mtq was keen to do a kit. Unfortunately I didn't have the time to give him what he needed. This would have required a few variants of patrols with td42s. Then a standard kit could have been sorted.

[MB]

Never look back Mat Mate!
A beautiful combination kit proven to many running on here and elsewhere too no doubt kindly sharing knowledge as always [emoji106][emoji106]
Commercialisation of any ‘off the shelf’ kit would be massively time draining even after full R&D bulletproof idiot release IMHO [emoji51]
So many variables on installations and our ‘plug & play’ new world expectations could fill your ‘inbox’ with wacky queries like:

“Why does my second 120ah battery still rub against the mild steel custom welded bend my mates friend bent up for me”

Negative thoughts I know but Millennials are out there [emoji12][emoji23]




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