Jay see 1997 GU build up

[jay see]

I thought I better get on to this before I forget how it looked like at the start...
This is it after a good clean inside and out, some people really are pigs. I found one shoe, a half eaten packet of biscuits, and a whole heap of cheap under the seats, but no $$$$.

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Will get some pics of the interior soon.

It's all original, still have the CD, radio, tape head unit, even had the factory shockers in it.

[jay see]

Bored...... Killing time.
Here are some more pics.
Looks like the play funds are going to be put on hold and its going to look the same for a while.
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Did get my brother in law to make me up this.
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[jay see]

Needs black windows. What do you reckon.48006

[Stropp]

hi mate nice clean looking rig, yes tinted windows will make it look better.

[jay see]

Some slight upgrades.
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Not sure if I'll keep the tyres.

[happygu]

What do you and what dont you like about the tyres?

They look ok from the side......

Mic

[jay see]

What do you and what dont you like about the tyres?

They look ok from the side......

Mic

I don't know. I think I was hoping for a bit more ground clearance. I do like the 12.5" width and the offset.

[happygu]

Look like 33s ... you only get 1 inch at the bottom and 1 at the top.

Suspension lift will move the sills higher out of harms way

[jay see]

Look like 33s ... you only get 1 inch at the bottom and 1 at the top.

Suspension lift will move the sills higher out of harms way

33x12.5x15, but there isn't much tread left. Gave me an extra 1" overall.
May try a different size or go 16's when its time to replace. Suspension lift is next on the list.

[happygu]

33s in 15 or 16 inch are both the same overall diameter ..... no difference, although some brands have slightly different overall sizes

[jay see]

33s in 15 or 16 inch are both the same overall diameter ..... no difference, although some brands have slightly different overall sizes

Yeah, now that I think of it your right.
Maybe 35s are the go, if they become off road only.

[jay see]

UI'm making a list. In no particular order this is what I want to do.

Tyres - Everyday 33" a/t off roaders 35" extreme.
Done.
35x10.5x15 simex extreme trekker 7/08/2015

Suspension - 2" king Kdfr42hd and one of the progressive for the rear. Shocks unsure of brand at this stage, but will be 2-4".
[B]Done.
Front and Rear Suspension Stuff 2" Ultra Flexy Coils, 4" tough dog foam cell Shocks, radius Offset Castor Bushes, extended brake hoses front and rear and brake bias bracket Installed my me on 08/04/2015

Dual battery - Redarc bcdc 1225 with solar panels.

Fridge - 40l fridge if I can't get my aldi one in there.

Lights - One LED off the rear wheel and a light bar off the bottom of the rack.

Awning - One on the passenger side.

Snorkel - unsure of brand may make up a stainless one with silicone elbows. DONE 26/03/15

Inside - USB slots, LED lighting, UHF, another radio and a 7" tablet to run maps.

Reduction gears. Ordered

Exhaust jack.

Window tint - As black as possible

Let's see if I can get some of these done before I add to it.

Additions.
Scrub bars that incorporate side steps.

Temp and oil gauge with switches and 12v points, all housed in box mounted on the dash.

Long range sub tank.

Rear bar with tyre carrier and jerry can holder, that way I can carry 100 litres of petrol.

[jay see]

Well, I can tick one off the list.
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Snorkel done!

[krbrooking]

Looking good mate. Coming along nicely.

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[lucus30]

Well, I can tick one off the list.
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Snorkel done!

Looks good come do mine ha ha. Practise makes perfect

[jay see]

Nah, didn't do it myself. Actually worked out well. Was going to order one and thought I have a quick look on eBay first and this guy had one brand new unopened. No one else bided and I got it, threedogs teed me up an install at tjm. Total $450. Gotta have a win sometimes.

[Sir Roofy]

well, i can tick one off the list.
56553
snorkel done!

well done mate and its one peace no joines to leak or seal up

[jay see]

Suspension has been sitting in the garage for a week. With shift work, a green pool, kids home for school holidays and feeling like sh!t ATM I pulled my finger out and made a start. Radius arms are out and should have them back on Monday. Started on the extended brake lines, is there a trick to replacing these. Once the tubes are in it won't line up the center hole, is it off center. Anyway I'll look at it on Tuesday. Wife wants to go out on Monday.
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[krbrooking]

Nice looking hi heels man. Sorry can't help you with the brake lines. Hopefully you have some luck and get them in.

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[growler2058]

Cool. Gotta love a bit of lift.

Im not sure what you mean about the brake lines. Can you take some pics

[jay see]

Cool. Gotta love a bit of lift.

Im not sure what you mean about the brake lines. Can you take some pics

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Also at the top end is there a correct way of removing.
No rush won't be looking at it till Tuesday

[growler2058]

I'm missing something? That looks like its fitted well?

[jay see]

The center bolt is just sitting there, it doesn't line up with the thread.

Turned out that the thread was not the best. Found an another bolt and it with straight in.

[jay see]

Got a chance to get in some work today. Radius arms done and ready to go back in.
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Front springs and shocks out.
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Should be able to finish off tomorrow.:)

[lucus30]

What size lift did you go? And which coil rates did you go?

[jay see]

What size lift did you go? And which coil rates did you go?

http://www.suspensionstuff.com.au/2-flexy-coil-kit-for-gq-gu-nissan-patrol.html
With HD in the front and medium in the rear. With 4" tough dog foam cell and HD steering damper.

[lucus30]

http://www.suspensionstuff.com.au/2-flexy-coil-kit-for-gq-gu-nissan-patrol.html
With HD in the front and medium in the rear. With 4" tough dog foam cell and HD steering damper.

Nice should be good. I didn't realise how rough mine was and how poor the handling was till I drove my mates GU over easter. Going to start looking at sorting it out soon I think

[threedogs]

Nice should be good. I didn't realise how rough mine was and how poor the handling was till I drove my mates GU over easter. Going to start looking at sorting it out soon I think

@ Lucas what are you running ATM

[lucus30]

@ Lucas what are you running ATM

2 inch OME all round with nitro charger shocks. Heavy in the front and mediums in the back.

[threedogs]

is the ride too harsh atm,?

[lucus30]

is the ride too harsh atm,?

Yeah It is

[threedogs]

will follow with interest, Im trying to get air bags all a round

[jay see]

Just about finished, just have to bleed the brakes and put everything away, will do that tomorrow. Bloody work got in the way, anyway I'm not here staying long.

All going good I'm going to go out to wombat on Thursday for a bit of a drive, nothing over the top. Anyone want to join me.....

Pics will come tomorrow

[lucus30]

Just about finished, just have to bleed the brakes and put everything away, will do that tomorrow. Bloody work got in the way, anyway I'm not here staying long.

All going good I'm going to go out to wombat on Thursday for a bit of a drive, nothing over the top. Anyone want to join me.....

Pics will come tomorrow

A mate and me are hitting bunyip tomorrow about 10am if you want to join us. Or anybody else wants to ?

[jay see]

Only if I have brakes lol.
Will see how I go in the morning. I think I still have your number, will call you if I'm coming.

[lucus30]

Only if I have brakes lol.
Will see how I go in the morning. I think I still have your number, will call you if I'm coming.

Sweet mate sounds good

[Family4x4]

great to see you ticking a few things off jay.

[jay see]

All done....:D
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Will add more later.

[Sir Roofy]

All done....:D
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Will add more later.

looking good mate sliders next maybe

[jay see]

Thanks roofy.
Sliders are on the list, well there might to be, better go back to it and tick off the lift and add the steps. Probably scrub bars that continue to step.
Think the lights might be first. Will see what comes up first $$$ wise.

[threedogs]

Is that the same Patrol you had at my place??
I thought yours was white?

[jay see]

Is that the same Patrol you had at my place??
I thought yours was white?

Yep. Same one. Almost a year later and 20,000 km later.

[threedogs]

If I didnt have the docs tomorrow I'd go wheeling at wombat

[krbrooking]

Comin along nicely man. If I wasn't working I would be in on the drive to.
I thought you were meant to add two to everyone you cross of the list.

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[cgm]

All done....:D
56971
Will add more later.

Looks so much better with the lift. Coming along nicely.

[jay see]

I thought you were meant to add two to everyone you cross of the list.

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Yeah right, would be nice.
Well I can add just don't know when I get around to doing it.

[lucus30]

Nice mate looks great. Should be able to get bigger tyres on now ha ha

[jay see]

Nice mate looks great. Should be able to get bigger tyres on now ha ha

There the 33s on ready to tomorrow. You up for another drive? Next set of muddies will be 35s.
How did you go today?

[jay see]

The rest if the pics.
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Front springs.
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Rear springs.
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Steering damper.
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:thumbup::thumbup::D:D

[lucus30]

Yeah mate was good fun. I just cleaned it all though I do seem to always do a spontaneous 4wd after cleaning it

[threedogs]

The rest if the pics.
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Front springs.
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Rear springs.
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Steering damper.
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:thumbup::thumbup::D:D

Got a tough stance mate well done,
didnt get out of Docs from 9.30 to 1.30 pm

[jay see]

A couple of flex shots, nothing great.
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[jay see]

Comparison shot.

Before
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After
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[jay see]

As she stands now, proud and tall.
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[lucus30]

As she stands now, proud and tall.
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Nice will look like a different beast when I see it next

[jay see]

UI'm making a list. In no particular order this is what I want to do.

Tyres - Everyday 33" a/t off roaders 35" extreme.
Done.
35x10.5x15 simex extreme trekker 7/08/2015

Suspension - 2" king Kdfr42hd and one of the progressive for the rear. Shocks unsure of brand at this stage, but will be 2-4".
[B]Done.
Front and Rear Suspension Stuff 2" Ultra Flexy Coils, 4" tough dog foam cell Shocks, radius Offset Castor Bushes, extended brake hoses front and rear and brake bias bracket Installed my me on 08/04/2015

Dual battery - Redarc bcdc 1225 with solar panels.

Fridge - 40l fridge if I can't get my aldi one in there.

Lights - One LED off the rear wheel and a light bar off the bottom of the rack.

Awning - One on the passenger side.

Snorkel - unsure of brand may make up a stainless one with silicone elbows. DONE 26/03/15

Inside - USB slots, LED lighting, UHF, another radio and a 7" tablet to run maps.

Reduction gears. Ordered

Exhaust jack.

Window tint - As black as possible

Let's see if I can get some of these done before I add to it.

Additions.
Scrub bars that incorporate side steps.

Temp and oil gauge with switches and 12v points, all housed in box mounted on the dash.

Long range sub tank.

Rear bar with tyre carrier and jerry can holder, that way I can carry 100 litres of petrol.

Why can't I edit this post?

[nissannewby]

Time limits on editing

[jay see]

Time limits on editing

Ok. Thanks I'll try doing this way.

UI'm making a list. In no particular order this is what I want to do.

Tyres - Everyday 33" a/t off roaders 35" extreme.
Done.35x10.5x16 simex extreme trekker 7/08/2015


Suspension - 2" king Kdfr42hd and one of the progressive for the rear. Shocks unsure of brand at this stage, but will be 2-4".
Done.
Front and Rear Suspension Stuff 2" Ultra Flexy Coils, 4" tough dog foam cell Shocks, radius Offset Castor Bushes, extended brake hoses front and rear and brake bias bracket Installed my me on 08/04/2015

Dual battery - Redarc bcdc 1225 with solar panels.

Fridge - 40l fridge if I can't get my aldi one in there.

Lights - One LED off the rear wheel and a light bar off the bottom of the rack.

Awning - One on the passenger side.

Snorkel - unsure of brand may make up a stainless one with silicone elbows. Ironman DONE 26/03/15

Inside - USB slots, LED lighting, UHF, another radio and a 7" tablet to run maps.
UHF - Oricom UHF028 DONE 22/10/15

Reduction gears. 63% Ordered

Exhaust jack.

Window tint - As black as possible

Let's see if I can get some of these done before I add to it.

Additions.
Scrub bars that incorporate side steps.

Temp and oil gauge with switches and 12v points, all housed in box mounted on the dash.

Long range sub tank.
Well not exactly. Four 20L jerry cans

Rear bar with tyre carrier and jerry can holder, that way I can carry 100 litres of petrol.

[jay see]

Reduction gears arrived, hopefully have an install early in the new year.

[mudski]

Feck. You wont know yourself!

[jay see]

Feck. You wont know yourself!

Nor will will my brakes.lol

[jay see]

I've had some time to do so thinking while driving and I'm up for a new set of tyres. I'm currently running a 265/75/16 a/t. Been thinking of going to a 33" fairly aggressive a/t or a m/t and sell the 35" and just run the one set for everything.

First thing is to find a place that can do a proper alinement. Then to decide on what tyre to run.

I don't want to go to a place and hear, your got a lift we can't do a alinement, or its a patrol you cant adjust both sides. If I need to replace or add something, that's fine. I just don't want to be bullshit!ted to.

So where should I go.

[Chubba]

Reduction gears arrived, hopefully have an install early in the new year.

Your going to love those gears jay see. They'll be your favourite mod I bet.

[jay see]

Can anyone recommend a good tyre place that knows what they're doing.

[mudski]

What seems to be the problem John?

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[jay see]

Due for tyres and I might sell the 35s and just run one set. I want the tyres to perform well off-road and still have life on the black stuff.
Biggest issue I have atm is to find a shop that can do a proper alinement.
Would rather go to somewhere recommend.

[mudski]

Pro axle in campbellfield is where i go. As for tyres, i would recommend the BFG muddies. They arent noisy, awesome off road and last long on the black top.

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[jay see]

Thanks mate will check them out.

[Winnie]

Due for tyres and I might sell the 35s and just run one set. I want the tyres to perform well off-road and still have life on the black stuff.
Biggest issue I have atm is to find a shop that can do a proper alinement.
Would rather go to somewhere recommend.
Yeah mate BFG KM2 all the way. Tick every box you need. Quiet, heaps of grip on the road and I look like I'll get quite a few Ks out of them yet. Fantastic tyre on the rocks and pretty good in the mud too.

[Rossco]

Yeah x 2. Very happy with the km2s. Can't go wrong as an all rounder i reckon, plus haven't had a puncture yet and seem to be wearing pretty good. Done bout 20,0000 and still look good as new.

[threedogs]

Can anyone recommend a good tyre place that knows what they're doing.

Go see Andrew @ On Track he works on Patrols every day of the week
He even owned a 235 Rwkw comp truck Patrol of course.
Very little he doesnt know about Patrols

[jay see]

Cheers guys.
The km2 M/T is what your talking about yeah?
Ive heard good things from these, but what else do people run. Was thinking of coppers, but after BAs trouble maybe not. Federals, Mickey's anyone tried Achilles?

[nissannewby]

Nittos or toyos.

[jay see]

I'm pulling out the radiator next week to replace the top tank, while mucking around in the shed I found a couple of temp gauges.

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Problem is that I could only find one sender.

I tried to test by running a wire from the gauge to the sender and dripping the sender in a pot of boiling water. Nothing.
Is there any other way to test before I go and buy a new one.

[jay see]

When putting in a top hose adapter for a temp gauge what is the best position to have the sender. Wouldn't it be more accurate if the sender was facing down.
Would prefer to drill and tap into the housing, has any done this with a tb45?

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Can anyone tell me what is this, can it be removed?

[BigRAWesty]

I know the td42 runs the temp sensor and the glow plug water temp from the thermostat housing, it's to shut the glows off once engine temp is up to a set amount..
Does the tb have a "choke" on it?? Maybe a similar situation?

[threedogs]

Cant you run an Ecu-Talk instead of running guages ??

[jay see]

I know the td42 runs the temp sensor and the glow plug water temp from the thermostat housing, it's to shut the glows off once engine temp is up to a set amount..
Does the tb have a "choke" on it?? Maybe a similar situation?

I worked out that it's the ECU temp sender. Found a thread here from 2012.


Cant you run an Ecu-Talk instead of running guages ??
If not using gauges I would rather use something like this.

http://www.nissandatascan.com/.
Need to look into it a bit more.


Still would like to know where ppl have drill and tapped into the thermostat housing, or if they run the adapter with the sender facing down.

[jay see]

Would this work. Can run both factory and aftermarket sender, both before the thermostat.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/321947356225?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Would there be enough room for the coolant to freely move around?

[Kimbo63]

Would this work. Can run both factory and aftermarket sender, both before the thermostat.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/321947356225?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Would there be enough room for the coolant to freely move around?

There will be no problem fitting a tee I done it for my oil pressure gauge as well go check your local hosemasters,pertek or Enzed

[jay see]

There will be no problem fitting a tee I done it for my oil pressure gauge as well go check your local hosemasters,pertek or Enzed

Cheers mate.
Will do.

[jay see]

There will be no problem fitting a tee I done it for my oil pressure gauge as well go check your local hosemasters,pertek or Enzed

I've done the drive around and no one stocks a 12x1.25 tee. Hard enough to find anything that's 1.25, so I'm going to tap in a new one here.

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Has anyone got a 1/8 npt tap that I could borrow?

[jay see]

My gauge should arrive next week, after a mix up on there end. Ive run wires though the firewall and up and under the dash.

Where is the best place to get the +&- for the gauge and what about the light.
Had a search for someone else's install but couldn't find one.

[threedogs]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/121258984830?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Is something like this helpfull ???

[jay see]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/121258984830?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Is something like this helpfull ???

Yes, but not for the temp gauge.

Any threads showing how to install.

[gubigfish]

check these out jay see http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/5-X-ADD-A-CIRCUIT-BLADE-STYLE-ATM-Tap-Piggy-MINI-FUSE-HOLDER-15A-FUSE-Sales-/321430422023?hash=item4ad6bf0207:g:3jYAAOSwa39Uyve 7 credit to ET, its what I used to get +ve for my EGT gauge, I had an existing -ve wire connected to one of the bolts behind the centre part of the dash. You can also get those adapters from Repco and SCA however you'll pay a fortune for one.

[jay see]

Wanting to lose the plugs for the dash cam and the GPS. Is there any problems to cut the plugs off and wire them into the accessories somewhere. Don't think it would be a issue, but want to make sure.

[lucus30]

Wanting to lose the plugs for the dash cam and the GPS. Is there any problems to cut the plugs off and wire them into the accessories somewhere. Don't think it would be a issue, but want to make sure.
If they are just 12v power no problem at all.

[jay see]

If they are just 12v power no problem at all.

Thanks mate. I thought it would be fine.

Now to do something about it.

[jay see]

If they are just 12v power no problem at all.

Another stupid question.

The fuse in the plug is 1amp. The smallest under the dash is 5 amp, do I just disregard it?

Like I've said in the past and continue to prove in the future, I not electronically minded.:confused:

[lucus30]

Id probably stick with the 1 amp to be honest as you fuse for wire size and you size your wire by current draw

[jay see]

Cheers Lucus.

I'll put a 1amp inline fuse then.

[sooty_10]

What gps? Be careful as I tried to do this with my hema hn5 and cut the cord only to find out the ciggie plug actually houses a voltage/amp altering circuit board and it won't work with out the plug or some more extensive modifications to it all. I just rejoined the wires and went back to the plug. Haha. I now have a new cable (many years later)

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[lucus30]

What gps? Be careful as I tried to do this with my hema hn5 and cut the cord only to find out the ciggie plug actually houses a voltage/amp altering circuit board and it won't work with out the plug or some more extensive modifications to it all. I just rejoined the wires and went back to the plug. Haha. I now have a new cable (many years later)

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Yeah good point probably worth checking the plug with a multimeter

[sooty_10]

Yeah good point probably worth checking the plug with a multimeter
Or at least pull it open before cutting to make sure there is only a fuse and nothing else. Or the owners manual should have working voltage details etc.

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[jay see]

What gps? Be careful as I tried to do this with my hema hn5 and cut the cord only to find out the ciggie plug actually houses a voltage/amp altering circuit board and it won't work with out the plug or some more extensive modifications to it all. I just rejoined the wires and went back to the plug. Haha. I now have a new cable (many years later)

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Thanks for that sooty.
Looks like I'm staying with the cig plugs as both the GPS and camera both have circuit boards.

[lucus30]

Thanks for that sooty.
Looks like I'm staying with the cig plugs as both the GPS and camera both have circuit boards.
Well that's annoying.. I wonder what volts they are putting out.

[sooty_10]

Yeah unless your more switched on then me and simply solder a couple of power wires to the circuit board and seal em up / secure them behind dash somewhere etc to mount permanent. I've thought about this but just decided not anytime soon.

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[jay see]

Yeah unless your more switched on then me and simply solder a couple of power wires to the circuit board and seal em up / secure them behind dash somewhere etc to mount permanent. I've thought about this but just decided not anytime soon.

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Nope. I'm not touching anything.
At the most I'll cut the plug to feed it through to neaten up and then soilder it back on.

[threedogs]

Just for an idea heres what Im going to run ontop the dash closest is
water temp in red digital, then a white faced clock as the OE one is
unreadable behind the ecu-Talk and the left gauge is a red digital volt
but that may change,,,the two silver switches are a momentary switch for my air horn
and an on/off fot the driving lights,
Ive also used a 5 to five watherproof plug to keep things flat

[jay see]

My speco plasma series gauges.

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Have to let it cool down and fit an adapter for the oil pressure.

[Bloodyaussie]

Do they have a dimmer for at night.?

I love gauges but i need for them to be all the same make so it looks trick.

[threedogs]

Go black face red led digital like mine no glare at night time at all
No idea why pics go sideways grrrrr

My boost and egt gauge are Speco, very easy to read imo

[jay see]

Do they have a dimmer for at night.?

I love gauges but i need for them to be all the same make so it looks trick.

No, but in this thread
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?t=17150
It shows how to use the dimmer.
I'll need to try during different conditions, sunny, overcast and night to see how easy they are to read and to see if s dimmer is needed.
I to need to have all the gauges the same.

[jay see]

Go black face red led digital like mine no glare at night time at all
No idea why pics go sideways grrrrr

My boost and egt gauge are Speco, very easy to read imo

I originally wanted something like that, a digital readout, but was starting to get a bit too pricey and wasn't to sure on the eBay cheapies.

[threedogs]

I originally wanted something like that, a digital readout, but was starting to get a bit too pricey and wasn't to sure on the eBay cheapies.

Ill let you know how they go.

did your gauges come with different colour balloons for the led globes.
EG you could have a red back ground the perfect colour for night and
easiest on the eyes too

[jay see]

Ill let you know how they go.

did your gauges come with different colour balloons for the led globes

Yeah please do.

As for the colours. Nah, as you see them mate, but they do look better than in the pic.

[threedogs]

They look great in the pic,, Im like BA and love gauges much better than a red light coming on.
They appear from that picture they may be too bright at night, but only you could tell that.
They look easy to read at a glance so that a bonus eh.

I left a message with the makers of my digital gauges if they could make a 52mm red led clock.?
All was lost in translation, but I have a great 12v 52mm marine clock, much easier to read
than the LCD GU clock.

[jay see]

My temp gauge is wired up to my lights. Easy enough as there was a wire to do so, but the oil pressure gauge only has 3 wires positive, negative and sender.
Will it work if I run the light wire from the temp gauge to the positive on the gauge. I hope you can understand what I'm trying to say.

[threedogs]

Thats all I did with the 3 gauges on top of the dash all ign together all pos together and all earth together
then the water temp sender wire only had 5 x trailer wire coming out the bac of the gauge,
hope that makes sense, left me with one spare wire

[jay see]

Problem is the oil pressure gauge has only 3 wires. Where and what do I run the wire to light up the gauge only with my lights.

[threedogs]

Nothing on Utube, what about to the back of the dimmer switch,
Mine didnt need back lights so never did that
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=oil+pressure+gauge+wires&FORM=HDRSC2

[jay see]

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This is what I've got with ignition on. When the lights are on the temp gauge lights up like the oil. I want the oil pressure to work like the temp.

The oil only has + & - and the sender of course. At the moment the + on the oil is with the + on the temp.

[threedogs]

The Pos would be to accessories wouldnt it so it would only work with ignition
Not to the pos of the battery

[jay see]

Yeah, positive to ignition. Nothing going direct to battery.
I think that my problem is there is only one power wire that powers up the whole thing.

[threedogs]

you wouldnt get your power from the dimmer switch wire would you ??
move the pos wire of the oil pressure gauge to the pos on the water temp gauge
think that sounds right.
I see your pillar pod is different to mine and you have room for some toggle
switches right of the gauges +++++
Get a cig plug with 450mm of wire and use this for test purposes

[jay see]

move the pos wire of the oil pressure gauge to the pos on the water temp gauge

That's how is was it is.
I'll post up the back of the gauge tomorrow morning.
Don't think I can run the oil with the lights. You'll see what I mean.

[jay see]

This is the back of the oil gauge.
65109

And this is the temp gauge.
65110

I think I'm stuck with how it is.

[threedogs]

Check the spec's on the gauges and see if the have back light facility,
If it has they normally have a twist in LED at the back, I wouldnt think
it would have a built in LED
Can't see that last post ,,way too dark.
The idea of the cig plug and wires was to test the gauge
to see if you can get lights.

Any update JC ???

[jay see]

Check the spec's on the gauges and see if the have back light facility,
If it has they normally have a twist in LED at the back, I wouldnt think
it would have a built in LED
Can't see that last post ,,way too dark.
The idea of the cig plug and wires was to test the gauge
to see if you can get lights.

Any update JC ???

I know what you mean about the twist in LED and both gauges don't have that. The temp on has a yellow wire that gets connected to the lights or to the ACC. The oil doesn't have the yellow wire, so the positive must light it all up.
No real big deal if I can't get the blue parts to only come on with the lights.
Even rang speco and all they did was give me a number to a guy in Geelong, tried calling him and no one answers the phone.
I'm actually thinking of getting rid of both of them. They look brilliant at night, but a bit hard to read during sunny conditions.
Wanting to stick to the digital style. I'm thinking of these cheapies.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=231812435885&alt=web
Just hope I don't have the same issues in sunny conditions.

[threedogs]

You must have linked an auction item as the link is not working.
In full sun I can easily read my red gauges cant vouch for blue ones though.
If the mob did a zero to 30 boost gauge I get that too. Sadly they dont do
an EGT gauge.
Digital gauge still has plastic on it.

Edit:: Did a bit of google I dont thnk they have a back light, [your's]
Its the way the outside rim lights up is your illumination, well thats
the way I read it

[threedogs]

@ JC give Brendan an email at info at spec dot com dot au.
He was saying they have a new range coming out, digital
I think, plus some high end USA car care products


http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/52mm-Digital-Dual-Water-Oil-Temp-Temperature-Gauge-Meter-Blue-LED-SMOKE-Lens-C-/331786005572?hash=item4d3ffcac44:g:rooAAOSwDuJWzCH 9
Comes in red save a gauge plus they do
a double battery {Volt} as well saves space again
absolutely love this VDO number
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VDO-Digital-Turbo-Pressure-Gauge-12V-52mm-0-30psi-RED-/201294455382?hash=item2ede15a256:g:CoEAAOSwEeFU7F6 k

[jay see]

@ JC give Brendan an email at info at spec dot com dot au.
He was saying they have a new range coming out, digital
I think, plus some high end USA car care products


http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/52mm-Digital-Dual-Water-Oil-Temp-Temperature-Gauge-Meter-Blue-LED-SMOKE-Lens-C-/331786005572?hash=item4d3ffcac44:g:rooAAOSwDuJWzCH 9
Comes in red save a gauge plus they do
a double battery {Volt} as well saves space again
absolutely love this VDO number
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VDO-Digital-Turbo-Pressure-Gauge-12V-52mm-0-30psi-RED-/201294455382?hash=item2ede15a256:g:CoEAAOSwEeFU7F6 k

Thanks John
Will have a look at them.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/331231273083?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&var=540414172713&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

See if this link works. Its the same one as to other day, but i'm on the computer now

Like the idea of the dual readings, but would perfer to have oil pressuer and water temp in one.

[threedogs]

Yeah those are the gauges I'm running on top of the dash.
When funds allow I'll be buying a 4 gauge binnacle from
4x4 concepts

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/161986822731?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Then I may run a dual red digital volt meter,, a water temp and oil pressure and my 12v clock
All in the same black body red LED.
Pop over if you want to see how they look before you buy them, I'm sold, I love them

[jay see]

Pop over if you want to see how they look before you buy them, I'm sold, I love them

What's your day like today?

[threedogs]

Ha ha like any other doing nothing lol
after lunch is clear

Edit nah no good today bloody doctors again forgot

[jay see]

Ha ha like any other doing nothing lol
after lunch is clear

Edit nah no good today bloody doctors again forgot

Shame I had a little something to bring.65135
I'm free till about 3 today. You could call pass here if you like.
You still got my number?

[threedogs]

Yeah I have your number docs is for the missus so no idea how long it will be

[jay see]

Not happy with the gauges during bright sunny days. Can still read them, but need to look not just a glance.
Have taken them out and will sell them.
Will go with the digital red readout, hopefully will be that last time.

[threedogs]

Pop in , in the morning only giving the troll a bit of a clean...
and yes I have your mobile
You'll love the red digital, take mine for a burn around the block

[jay see]

Pop in , in the morning only giving the troll a bit of a clean...
and yes I have your mobile
You'll love the red digital, take mine for a burn around the block

Well see got some things to do in the morning. Then is sleep time as got work tomorrow night.

[threedogs]

Tried to get a pic at night for you they are awesome a very mellow red I have not idea why they flared in the pic
But its just a subtle red light. I absolutely love it

[jay see]

Tried to get a pic at night for you they are awesome a very mellow red I have not idea why they flared in the pic
But its just a subtle red light. I absolutely love it
Thanks John, but I'm more concerned about how they look in bright sunny conditions.

[threedogs]

this was in full sunlight as I said very easy to read

[jay see]

I'm finally going to do something about my radiator.
Question is there seems to be a few that state a bleed pipe. Where would I find this on my current on TB45 auto.

Don't recall seeing one.

Never mind, I've find a direct replacement.

[threedogs]

Dont you have a bleed point at the back of the motor??

[jay see]

Dont you have a bleed point at the back of the motor??

Not that I'm aware of. I've always done the coke bottle trick.

[Sir Roofy]

Cant think which pipe it is but should come of the heater hose with a blue or black cap
make sure you don't get the air con pipes it is at the back near the firewall

[threedogs]

Not that I'm aware of. I've always done the coke bottle trick.

Yeah just park up hill and idle it for 1/2 hr squeeze the top hose every now and then to force bubbles out.
If you are on gas crack the hose fittings on the condenser, air always gets trapped there

Ill double check manual for bleed point

[jay see]

Cant think which pipe it is but should come of the heater hose with a blue or black cap
make sure you don't get the air con pipes it is at the back near the firewall

Thanks roofy. Will have a good look when I pull it out.

Just spoke to a radiator place and some come with a bleed pipe port. These don't have a overflow hose or bottle. It bleeds back into the system. Mine has a overflow bottle, so I'm guessing that there should be a bleed valve somewhere.
He priced me at $330.

[threedogs]

Still positive there is a bleed point at the rear of the motor.
anyway where you up to now, have you remove all air,
Id have a serious look at those Hpd water pumps like BA
installed, not as good as a John Bennet number but very impressive
They have to improve water flow by at least 40%
Need that sauce for some Pasta en forno, one of the joys
of marrying an Italian lol

[jay see]

Still positive there is a bleed point at the rear of the motor.
anyway where you up to now, have you remove all air,
Id have a serious look at those Hpd water pumps like BA
installed, not as good as a John Bennet number but very impressive
They have to improve water flow by at least 40%
Need that sauce for some Pasta en forno, one of the joys
of marrying an Italian lol

Issus is that the radiator was leaking a bit across the top tank. Have had it out a couple of times to clean it, but for an extra $20 I got a new one.

Sauce is still here, yell out when you out n about next.

[Chubba]

Reduction gears arrived, hopefully have an install early in the new year.


G'day Jay see. Just wondering mate if you've had the reduction gears fitted. I may have missed it here, sorry if I did.

[jay see]

G'day Jay see. Just wondering mate if you've had the reduction gears fitted. I may have missed it here, sorry if I did.

Nah, not yet.
Hoping on getting them in soon tho.

[Chubba]

Nah, not yet.
Hoping on getting them in soon tho.

Get' em in mate. You'll have a whole
different car man.

[threedogs]

OK ,have you fitted these red digital gauges,
waiting,,,,waiting ,,,waiting

[jay see]

OK ,have you fitted these red digital gauges,
waiting,,,,waiting ,,,waiting

Nah, not yet.
Gotta take my son to a TAC game tomorrow so while I'm there I'll do something constructive. Just got to remember to throw in some tools.

[jay see]

Here you go John.
Now if this bloody rain will stop and the sun comes out to see how good they are in direct sunlight.

66018
66020

Hopefully tomorrow out with the old the radiator and in with a new one.

[threedogs]

You'll love them , oh and they look awesome in the pod/
gotta be happy with that, to me they are not in your face like normal
dial gauges

[jay see]

Finally pulled out of the box the radiator that arrived last Friday. It's a bit different, don't think it will be a issue, but I run it by..

66030

My current one doesn't have the hole where it is blocked off (blue bit). Other that that it looks the same.
Was just going to leave it on.

[threedogs]

Might be a bottom tank for an auto cooler

Also noticed you have room on your pod for extra toggle switches
or indicator leds, like my cruise control

[jay see]

Yeah, I'll put something there.

Radiator went in good. Had a look around for a bleeder on the firewall and the closest I found was this.

66038

The little dog leg that kicks up???

[Sir Roofy]

Yeah, I'll put something there.

Radiator went in good. Had a look around for a bleeder on the firewall and the closest I found was this.

66038

The little dog leg that kicks up???

If its on a heater hose it'll be it lets the air out don't forget to put the heater on hot

[jay see]

If its on a heater hose it'll be it lets the air out don't forget to put the heater on hot

Ahhhh.
Went to pick up my son and noticed Green under my car....
Coming from bottom hose. Another thing to do tomorrow....

Yeah, it's the heater hose roofy will crack it tomorrow.

[jay see]

66059

How good are these. I've one on the top hose without a problem, but the bottom hose now has a light leak. Will a screwdriver clamp be better.

[threedogs]

You are better off removing all the OE hose clamps you can find
Try and find the wide SS worm drive clamps, constant pressure
clamps are a bit of overkill for water hoses

[jay see]

After Yendor comments on TD motor thread regarding the electric fan it got me a little concerned.

I always thought that fan went on at 90 degrees and the a/c would cut out at 105 degrees.

Now the fan is going on at 96 degrees, so are these new gauges that I'm happy with not accurate? How would I check to see what's right....

[mudski]

After Yendor comments on TD motor thread regarding the electric fan it got me a little concerned.

I always thought that fan went on at 90 degrees and the a/c would cut out at 105 degrees.

Now the fan is going on at 96 degrees, so are these new gauges that I'm happy with not accurate? How would I check to see what's right....
My condenser fan never comes on and ive had water temps at 115c. I have two condenser fans and something id like to do is add a manual switch to turn them on if needed.

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[jay see]

My condenser fan never comes on and ive had water temps at 115c.

Maybe it's broken. Lol

Seriously tho, are my gauges out or am I running a bit hot.

[mudski]

I wouldn't be too concerned. You'd have to run a capillary temp gauge in the same spot where the new gauge is to compare.

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[threedogs]

Maybe it's broken. Lol

Seriously tho, are my gauges out or am I running a bit hot.

You could install an Ecu-Talk??

[jay see]

As good as they are I'll rather have something like a Bluetooth scan gauge. Got one for the wife's commo, but just need to find s something that suits a 1997 model.

[jay see]

All seems to be running good now.

After changing the radiator I was still getting slightly high temps when in traffic or just idling for long periods of time. The new radiator came with a radiator cap I thought I'll keep this aside as a spare if I ever need one. Put it on last night and Temps a much better nothing over 88 degrees and no more green dips in the floor.

Still would like to work out if the electric fan comes on at 90 or 100 degrees and why Mines was coming on at 96.....

[threedogs]

At least your fan comes on, good to see another thing ticked off.
You've had the gauges in a few days now, thumbs up or down?

[jay see]

Thumbs up mate, should have got them from the start.

[threedogs]

Thumbs up mate, should have got them from the start.

Same here I love them, if only they made a matching
EGT and boost for us ZD30 owners he he
At least they cover the main engine requirements

[jay see]

Same here I love them, if only they made a matching
EGT and boost for us ZD30 owners he he
At least they cover the main engine requirements

The mob that I got mine from do a boost, but not sure and the egt..

[jay see]

If I end up selling my Simex. I will be looking at a set of 305/70/16. I want to get a full set of 5 with new 16x8 rims.
What offset are people running with tyres these size. I know that up to -22 is common, I would like to keep the deep dish look.

Thanks in advance...:thumbup:

[threedogs]

minus 11 rings a bell but MR may have the answer.
I ran 305s with MTZs on them , still inside the guards

[jay see]

After a few weeks with both gauges hooked up I'm happy to report that my coolant temps are between 78-90 degrees with it sitting at 84 most of the time. This is after a new radiator, cap and coolant with demineralized water.

Oil pressure is at 22 psi (idle) and 52 psi (2800 rpm), specs are idle, above 7 and 2800 rpm 43-71 psi as per manual. I'm due for a oil + filter change within the next 1,000 km, so will see if any difference and I can see the gauges clearly in any condition now.:D

[jay see]

With any luck I should be getting my tyres and rims this week.
Before I drop some coin a question. I'm going for a 305/70/16 in a -13 will this cause any issues with the inside if the wheel rubbing.

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[nissannewby]

With any luck I should be getting my tyres and rims this week.
Before I drop some coin a question. I'm going for a 305/70/16 in a -13 will this cause any issues with the inside if the wheel rubbing.

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Shouldnt. They may touch your front mud flaps though.

[jay see]

Waiting on one more guy to call back on pricing. So far for 4 ROH 16X8 with BFG km2 fitted and balanced best is 1840, but that's an hour away.

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[Bacho86]

Shouldnt. They may touch your front mud flaps though.

Yep spot on mat - I had to remove my front mud flaps for the 305's as they scrubbed when turning


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[jay see]

Is that with a -13 offset?

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[nissannewby]

Is that with a -13 offset?

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Yeah. They will just touch mate. Enough to be annoying.

[jay see]

But with a -22 won't they just sit pass the guards. Bacho86 what are you running 13 or 22?

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[nissannewby]

They touch as you turn so the offset will only move this point where it touches. Unfortunately they will just about always touch in that size.

[Bacho86]

But with a -22 won't they just sit pass the guards. Bacho86 what are you running 13 or 22?

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Not 100% sorry John, I bought the wheels / tyres as a package with the Patrol, however I would bet they're a neg 13 as this is far more common and remember having some issues trying to get neg 22 in a 16" a few years back for my old Patrol

[Hodge]

For what it's worth. Mine are 285/75/16 and are -13 . Had to remove / trim front flaps. But otherwise no rubbing at all after that.
I know yours are 305, but thought I'd throw it out there for a comparo.

[jay see]

Cheers Hodge.
Any info is good info..
Think I'm just over thinking things.

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[threedogs]

Cant you space the front diff 12mm forward to prevent this happening.
Heard or read something about it

[Bacho86]

Think this would definitely be overdoing things IMO - fit the new tyres on first and if required trim / remove front mud flaps


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[jay see]

I was at my folks place last night and was flicking through the local paper and saw ad for a tyre place in South Morang rang them up this morning and was quoted 1900, asked if they could do 1800 and if they had them in stock. Yes and yes.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/07/57.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/07/58.jpg

Did a few tight u turns and no robbing at all😂. This is will the wheel turned. It may be due to the 2 degree offset brush.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/07/59.jpg

One concern I had was in the wet, well today was a good day to test them, drove a bit harder into the corners around home and I'm impressed.

Drivers side.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/07/60.jpg

Passenger side.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/07/61.jpg

Slight difference that adjustable panhards will fix, but it's not much do that can wait.

Tried to get a wheel alignment at pro axle for today, but they're full, will try for another day asap.

Cheers everyone for the input.

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[Bacho86]

Good outcome mate, nice work!

[gubigfish]

$1800 just for tyres or was that Rims as well?

[jay see]

1800 for 4 ROH 16X8 -13 with 305/70/16 BFG KM2s.

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[jay see]

And it even throw my speedo back to only 2ks out.

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[threedogs]

Betcha you dying to test these babies out, I take it they are nice and quiet ATM.
what pressures are you running or going to run

[Hodge]

Toolangi and dissa are nice and greasy right now if you're keen to take the shine of the new rubber.

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[jay see]

Betcha you dying to test these babies out, I take it they are nice and quiet ATM.
what pressures are you running or going to run
I wouldn't say that they're quite, but not to bad. Haven't checked the pressure yet, it's whatever the tyre place put in. Will check in morning before it goes in for a alignment.

Toolangi and dissa are nice and greasy right now if you're keen to take the shine of the new rubber.

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Keen..... I haven't been out since the Dargo trip you kidding me, who's free this weekend. Hodge????

Edit.
How bad is the weather going to be this weekend.

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[jay see]

I want to see how these tyres wear so I measured the tread, starting point is 15mm.

Also I measured the overall height and was a bit surprised.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/07/122.jpg

32 1/4".

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[jay see]

Can anyone explain why this is.
I remember reading somewhere that comp tyres are bigger than what is stamped on, but these are smaller.

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[Hodge]

Would it have something to do with tyre inflation/ psi ?


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[jay see]

I thought of that, but the actual size is 32.8, that's 1/2" difference. They're at 40psi ATM. Would they really change that much?

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[Hodge]

I thought of that, but the actual size is 32.8, that's 1/2" difference. They're at 40psi ATM. Would they really change that much?

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I honestly have no idea John. It was just a first thing I thought of and a wild brainstorming guess. I mean, physically, if you deflate a tire, give it a larger footprint, then the vertical diameter decreases , edge to edge does it not ?
Even if it is 1/2". Maybe not in your case.

[jay see]

Cheers Eric.
No biggie really, just curious. Might go stick some more air in and see what the difference is.

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[nissannewby]

Can anyone explain why this is.
I remember reading somewhere that comp tyres are bigger than what is stamped on, but these are smaller.

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Manufacturers are all over the place with sizes mate. Some measure true, some over and some under. Bfgs seem to always be under both in diameter and width.

[Mike02Ti]

Would this maybe have something to do with them being measured from factory in an unmounted state?
Once mounted, inflated and then with weight on them i would imagine the base of the tire to conform to the ground (flat)
Would these factors create the roughly 1/2" missing from the overall height?

[jay see]

Who knows mate. I know that my work we have a 2% variance plus or minus it's always minus

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[jay see]

After the mothers club meeting was over at pro axle they got into fitting the offset kingpin and doing the wheel alignment, even took off the steering wheel to have it straight.
Don't think that it has ever felt this good in the steering before.
Would recommend as guys any day. Cheers Mudski for the head up.

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[mudski]

After the mothers club meeting was over at pro axle they got into fitting the offset kingpin and doing the wheel alignment, even took off the steering wheel to have it straight.
Don't think that it has ever felt this good in the steering before.
Would recommend as guys any day. Cheers Mudski for the head up.

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You don't have an adjustable drag link John? Bring a six pack over, we'll share it, and you can have one I got here sitting around doing nothing. Lol. I bought it from RooDogs about 18months ago. Its a heavy duty one. Well heavy for them. :)
Proaxle tried to talk me into those offset bearing but I'm not sold on them so I left it at that. He does plenty of Patrols there so he's pretty thorough in what he does.

[jay see]

No mate don't have one.
The adjustable link helps with toe in/out correct?
The offset bearings are to correct the camber.

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[nissannewby]

No mate don't have one.
The adjustable link helps with toe in/out correct?
The offset bearings are to correct the camber.

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Drag link goes from steering box to swivel hub. Adjustable items allow you to re-centre the box which then centres the steering wheel.

The tie rod which joins the 2 swivels hubs (on the rear side of front diff) is what you adjust to alter your toe.

[jay see]

So in my case is a adjustable drag link needed if all it does is recenter the wheel.
I went for the offset bearings because it was chewing out the outer edge on the front passenger.

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[nissannewby]

Yep just an adjustable drag link. Moving the steering wheel on the spline with a 2" lift is ok. Always best to adjust drag link if possible. Anything over a 2" lift an adjustable drag link is a must.

[jay see]

Didn't need much was only one spine. So if I do get the drag link should I put the wheel back and then adjust?

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[jay see]

I think I will take you up on that offer mudski. Everyone always says that at 2" lift you don't need things like offset radius arm bushes, adjustable panhards and drag link, but without them I would be scrapping at full lock, my diff are out between 5-10mm and the steering out by one spine.

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[rusty_nail]

Drag link goes from steering box to swivel hub. Adjustable items allow you to re-centre the box which then centres the steering wheel.

The tie rod which joins the 2 swivels hubs (on the rear side of front diff) is what you adjust to alter your toe.

how do you find out where the center of the box is mate? im fairly certain i need to recenter mine, i have the adjustable link just have nfi how to work out correct adjustments lol

[Hodge]

Is this pro axle in campbellfield ?
I took my Patrol there for an alignment and I got sent home.
He told me because I just have a basic 2" lift kit he can't align it.

I need an adjustable this and an adjustable that.. I forgot exactly which parts but yeah .


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[mudski]

I think I will take you up on that offer mudski. Everyone always says that at 2" lift you don't need things like offset radius arm bushes, adjustable panhards and drag link, but without them I would be scrapping at full lock, my diff are out between 5-10mm and the steering out by one spine.

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Too easy. I think I have some radius arm spacers here too you can have which will push your diff forwards too. You shouldn't need off set bushes for a 2inch lift. Did Pro axle check all that out for you? They did with mine, and mine is all 100% spot on. My camber was slightly out but I didn't want to use those bearings so I left it at that and just rotate my tyres at every service.

how do you find out where the center of the box is mate? im fairly certain i need to recenter mine, i have the adjustable link just have nfi how to work out correct adjustments lol

Its easy. make sure your wheels are dead straight first, dont worry about the steering wheel, just remove the ball joint end at the steering arm, straighten the steering wheel, the undo the lock nut on the drag link, and wind the ball joint in or out until it seats back in the steering arm without the wheel moving. Sometimes you may move the arm and the steering wheel goes a bit out, but you simply rinse and repeat until straight.


Is this pro axle in campbellfield ?
I took my Patrol there for an alignment and I got sent home.
He told me because I just have a basic 2" lift kit he can't align it.

I need an adjustable this and an adjustable that.. I forgot exactly which parts but yeah .


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Yeah Campbellfield. Obviously a 2inch lift will vary between brands on how each car is sitting, an adjustable drag link is a given I think, panhard rods you might get away with but you can see this by eye when looking at the vehicle, if one wheel is sticking out of the guard further than the opposite wheel. If they are not, adjustable panhards are what is required.

[Hodge]

Basic OME lift kit. Springs shocks steering dampener and bushes. Car doesn't ever sit that high and all the wheels are sitting proportinally equal on each side.
When arb fitted everything they aligned it no dramas.

I think the guy just had a CBF moment when I went in though.


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[mudski]

Basic OME lift kit. Springs shocks steering dampener and bushes. Car doesn't ever sit that high and all the wheels are sitting proportinally equal on each side.
When arb fitted everything they aligned it no dramas.

I think the guy just had a CBF moment when I went in though.


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Yeah strange. Either a CBF moment or it didn't need adjusting as ARB had done it???

[jay see]

Too easy. I think I have some radius arm spacers here too you can have which will push your diff forwards too. You shouldn't need off set bushes for a 2inch lift. Did Pro axle check all that out for you? They did with mine, and mine is all 100% spot on. My camber was slightly out but I didn't want to use those bearings so I left it at that and just rotate my tyres at every service.



Thanks mate, but i don't think that I'll need the spacers have enough room between tyre and mud flap. I think that the 2 degree offset bush has rolled the diff forward enough.

The offset bushes were part of the suspension kit and have been in there since May last year when I installed the rest of it.

He didn't mention anything about castor, but did say that it all looks pretty good expect for a bit of play in the panhard bush.

My last set of tyres lasted 40.000 ks and are all completely farked, chewed out the outer edge on the front passenger, rotated as often as i could to keep them all wearing down (that outer edge) at the same time.
Will keep an eye on them and rotate evey 5-10,000 ks.

I think because the camber is now different this has effected my steering wheel and an adjustable drag link is needed. I will first put the steering wheel back in it's original posittion.

Have a look about half way down page 19 of this thread. You can see that my tyre sicks out on the drivers side, not much but enough to replace both panhards with adjustable ones.


Basic OME lift kit. Springs shocks steering dampener and bushes. Car doesn't ever sit that high and all the wheels are sitting proportinally equal on each side.
When arb fitted everything they aligned it no dramas.

I think the guy just had a CBF moment when I went in though.


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What bushes were fitted?
If it drives straight, have equal tyre wear and nothing is sicking out. Leave it alone it's all good.

[mudski]

how do you find out where the center of the box is mate? im fairly certain i need to recenter mine, i have the adjustable link just have nfi how to work out correct adjustments lol

With removing the ball joint from the arm too Nic I found the easiest way is to hit the end of the arm with a mash hammer, where the ball joint sits in. The shock loosens the grip the taper has on the ball joint. A good soaking with Inox or similar is good prior too.

[rusty_nail]

With removing the ball joint from the arm too Nic I found the easiest way is to hit the end of the arm with a mash hammer, where the ball joint sits in. The shock loosens the grip the taper has on the ball joint. A good soaking with Inox or similar is good prior too.

awesome thanks mate, ill give it a go this weekend

[Mike02Ti]

jay see how you finding the new boots?
Im tossing up between the KM2's and KO2's atm. Unsure which way i'm going to go yet

[jay see]

jay see how you finding the new boots?
Im tossing up between the KM2's and KO2's atm. Unsure which way i'm going to go yet
Very happy.

My biggest concern was how they would handle in wet road conditions, well over the last few weeks we've had enough rain to test them out and I'll give them 2 thumbs up.

Now just need to test them out bush.

Do some ringing around. I found that some places wanted $550 a corner, that's with rims.


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[jay see]

I thing that I have noticed is that I don't have the rear diff shatter since I've had these wheels???

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[jay see]

You don't have an adjustable drag link John? Bring a six pack over, we'll share it, and you can have one I got here sitting around doing nothing. Lol.


Might see if I can pop over one day next week. You still off the piss?? Don't wanna show up with a 6 pack and have to drink it all by myself while you watch that wouldn't be nice.😋

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[mudski]

Might see if I can pop over one day next week. You still off the piss?? Don't wanna show up with a 6 pack and have to drink it all by myself while you watch that wouldn't be nice.😋

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Yeah off the piss mate still. One week to go. You got my number? If not 0476288006 mate. just come over, no need for beer. Lol. I need a favour the week after anyway and you might be the man to call on. My car is booked in at 4x4 obsession for Weds the 3rd...

[jay see]

Yeah off the piss mate still. One week to go. You got my number? If not 0476288006 mate. just come over, no need for beer. Lol. I need a favour the week after anyway and you might be the man to call on. My car is booked in at 4x4 obsession for Weds the 3rd...
Um. I'm working that night, what's your plans. I'm free all morning till about 1ish.
Yeah I've got your number.

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[mudski]

I'm thinking drop it off Tuesday maybe???

[jay see]

I'm thinking drop it off Tuesday maybe???
That works well for me I'm home that day, no problem at all.

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[jay see]

Its easy. make sure your wheels are dead straight first, dont worry about the steering wheel, just remove the ball joint end at the steering arm, straighten the steering wheel, the undo the lock nut on the drag link, and wind the ball joint in or out until it seats back in the steering arm without the wheel moving. Sometimes you may move the arm and the steering wheel goes a bit out, but you simply rinse and repeat until straight.

I'm waiting on a new bracket, but once I'm really to do this a wheel alignment won't be necessary, right?
I'm only putting the steering wheel back in is original position, not changing anything else.


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[mudski]

I'm waiting on a new bracket, but once I'm really to do this a wheel alignment won't be necessary, right?
I'm only putting the steering wheel back in is original position, not changing anything else.


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Yeah correct John. Your not touching the tie rod, which is where you adjust your toe in and toe out for wheel alignment....

[jay see]

Yeah correct John. Your not touching the tie rod, which is where you adjust your toe in and toe out for wheel alignment....
Cheers mate.
And thanks again for the D link.
The bracket that's on there now is to suit a series 2 & 3 right?
I'll leave it aside as a forum freebie.

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[jay see]

I'm not 100℅ sure how much out the steering wheel was, maybe a spline or 2. The guy took it off and refitted it so it was in the centre.
Is there any way of knowing the steering box is back in the centre.

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[mudski]

I'm not 100℅ sure how much out the steering wheel was, maybe a spline or 2. The guy took it off and refitted it so it was in the centre.
Is there any way of knowing the steering box is back in the centre.

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You need to count the amount of turns from left to right, or vice versa then halve it. Say if its 8 turns from lock to lock, you know you need four turns from the centre to left and right. So at full lock count back to 4. Then your steering should be centre. So if this is right, your steering wheel should not be centre. Then you adjust the drag link to suit. Might be a bit tricky as the wheel has been moved on the spline though. But I know thats how you get your steering box centred....
Theres probably a procedure in the online manual somewhere....
Edit : Just found in the Gregorys manual for 1998 models its 3.4 turns lock to lock, and 1999 on it 4.3 turns.
It also says the factory length of the drag link from joint to joint is 1123.4 + or - 1mm.
If this helps.

[jay see]

You need to count the amount of turns from left to right, or vice versa then halve it. Say if its 8 turns from lock to lock, you know you need four turns from the centre to left and right. So at full lock count back to 4. Then your steering should be centre. So if this is right, your steering wheel should not be centre. Then you adjust the drag link to suit. Might be a bit tricky as the wheel has been moved on the spline though. But I know thats how you get your steering box centred....
Theres probably a procedure in the online manual somewhere....
Edit : Just found in the Gregorys manual for 1998 models its 3.4 turns lock to lock, and 1999 on it 4.3 turns.
It also says the factory length of the drag link from joint to joint is 1123.4 + or - 1mm.
If this helps.
Thanks Mark.

Yes that does make sense.

Don't think the the steering wheel is going to be much of a problem. I want to get the steering box back in the centre, then I will adjust the wheel via the draglink.
Will need to see what is the number of turns for a series 1, may be different again.

Cheers for the info..

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[jay see]

A couple of issues after the Cobaw trip.

1. Front passenger window wouldn't go up. Put James switch (driver side one) and up she went and stayed up.

Easy fix, just need to find one.

2. While on one of the tracks James noticed that I had only one rear tyre spinning at times. I have noticed over the last month or so that I've lost all the rear diff shutter when turning. It was mentioned about the engine flush in the diff to clean it all out then drop and refill with new LSD oil. Has anyone here done this and how did it go?

3. A couple of times I had to give it a good old kick in the guts to keep momentum. During this time I noticed my coolant temp raise to 96 degrees and my oil pressure drop to around 6 psi on idle (normally around 18-22).
Engine temps came down to normal so all good there, but oil pressure is still around 15 psi lower than it was before the trip.

First will be oil and filter change.
I think that the oil has lost some of its viscosity during the high temp and a bit of high revving.
Does this make sense??

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[threedogs]

How old was the oil?? I find it hard to believe the oil had gone "off" so to speak.
it would take more than a trip bush to abuse the the oil.
If you're worried about oil pressure fit a smaller filter if ones available,lol

[jay see]

How old was the oil??

I haven't yet changed it. It's done 5300 km.

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[threedogs]

so only 5300 on an oil that coulds stretch out to 10,000,
If your due change and see what difference it makes.
Ive no doubt you're using quality oil

[mudski]

A couple of issues after the Cobaw trip.

1. Front passenger window wouldn't go up. Put James switch (driver side one) and up she went and stayed up.

Easy fix, just need to find one.
2. While on one of the tracks James noticed that I had only one rear tyre spinning at times. I have noticed over the last month or so that I've lost all the rear diff shutter when turning. It was mentioned about the engine flush in the diff to clean it all out then drop and refill with new LSD oil. Has anyone here done this and how did it go?

3. A couple of times I had to give it a good old kick in the guts to keep momentum. During this time I noticed my coolant temp raise to 96 degrees and my oil pressure drop to around 6 psi on idle (normally around 18-22).
Engine temps came down to normal so all good there, but oil pressure is still around 15 psi lower than it was before the trip.

First will be oil and filter change.
I think that the oil has lost some of its viscosity during the high temp and a bit of high revving.
Does this make sense??

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I can fix you up with this....
and
I'd change the oils first and see.

Do you have extended breathers for the diffs. You may have water in there?

[jay see]

I can fix you up with this....
and
I'd change the oils first and see.

Do you have extended breathers for the diffs. You may have water in there?
1. How much for the switch?

2. I would like to have the LSD working when in those situations. No diff breathers.

3. Will do probably do on Thursday.
Have been using shell 20-50 for a little while now.


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[threedogs]

jay see dont forget I have enough gear here to do you F&R and trans diff breathers.
Remember I told you about it.

[jay see]

On the last outing with sooty I had some trouble with my winch, it was decided that I'm probably due for a new solenoid.
Have been doing some researching and it looks like you can't go pass an Albright. Question is before I go and buy one online, where can I go to buy it in store?
Just about every listing says will fit most 12v winches. I want to make sure that it's going to fit in the box, speaking of which the box is broken on the bottom will I need to change that too, the Albright say that it's waterproof/resistance, so do I change the box or not?
The winch itself is still good.
Last one for now.
Is it just a straight swap?

Thanks in advance...

[sooty_10]

The albright doesn't need to go in the standard solenoid box, and most likely won't fit without modification. You can simply rerun new cable and wires to put it where ever you want or use the current cabling and put it where it fits reaches. Most folks rerun it and put it up in engine bay out of the mud.

I used existing cabling and mounted it behind bullbar near original solenoid box. Refitted the warn solenoid box in bullbar otherwise I'd have a hole in top of my bar. I may rewire it all and put it up higher in engine bay one day when i find motivation.

I haven't seen an albright which wouldn't work on any of the 4x4 12v winches I've seen so yours will be no different. This is what a genuine albright looks like and will work with your winch. http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/10/115.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/10/116.jpg.

They are usually around $170 on ebay. Then there are albright 'style' which are copies and would most likely also work, just cheaper.


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[sooty_10]

As to where can you get one in store. When I was looking I rang 4x4 stores and asked (incl ARB) most said they could and gave me varying prices. Most didn't stock them however and would order in for me.

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[jay see]

Thanks James.
Better get it sorted.

[jay see]

Been looking at how to secure the spare tyre on the factory holder.

One option that I've came across is to mount 3 wheel studs and then fit a lock nut.
Wreckers won't knock out 3 studs and repco want $10 each stud with nut.
I know $30 isn't alot, but has anyone got any that they don't need?

[Bacho86]

Been looking at how to secure the spare tyre on the factory holder.

One option that I've came across is to mount 3 wheel studs and then fit a lock nut.
Wreckers won't knock out 3 studs and repco want $10 each stud with nut.
I know $30 isn't alot, but has anyone got any that they don't need?

Hey is there any reason why you're not / can't use the factory holder and bolt combo or have I missed something.,..


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[mudski]

Yeah the factory holder uses three nuts with a stud as part of the nut. I then use a padlock to secure it on.

[jay see]

It's a 10mm tread with the hex head nut. Thinking of drilling a hole through the flat of the nut and using a padlock. Is this where your got the lock Mark?

[mudski]

It's a 10mm tread with the hex head nut. Thinking of drilling a hole through the flat of the nut and using a padlock. Is this where your got the lock Mark?

Kinda lost on where your at. Do you need to mount the wheel and lock it? Or just lock it?
Heres mine.
69699

[lucus30]

The albright doesn't need to go in the standard solenoid box, and most likely won't fit without modification. You can simply rerun new cable and wires to put it where ever you want or use the current cabling and put it where it fits reaches. Most folks rerun it and put it up in engine bay out of the mud.

I used existing cabling and mounted it behind bullbar near original solenoid box. Refitted the warn solenoid box in bullbar otherwise I'd have a hole in top of my bar. I may rewire it all and put it up higher in engine bay one day when i find motivation.

I haven't seen an albright which wouldn't work on any of the 4x4 12v winches I've seen so yours will be no different. This is what a genuine albright looks like and will work with your winch. http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/10/115.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/10/116.jpg.

They are usually around $170 on ebay. Then there are albright 'style' which are copies and would most likely also work, just cheaper.


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I'm still trying to work out where to mount mine in the engine bay it's bigger than I thought

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[jay see]

Kinda lost on where your at. Do you need to mount the wheel and lock it? Or just lock it?
Heres mine.
69699
Just lock it.
My holder is the factory one with the outer been plastic. Can't go through the centre
After a couple different locks and a oversized hole on the top closest to the free hole I still can't get a lock on.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/11/80.jpg

[jay see]

I'm still trying to work out where to mount mine in the engine bay it's bigger than I thought

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It doesn't have to go in the bay, but yeah probably better.

[lucus30]

It doesn't have to go in the bay, but yeah probably better.
Yeah I know my current one isnt. But I want to put this one in

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