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[jay see]

If you can use the original mounting bolt, just do that. Alternately MudRunnerTD, Rossco, @NB have all used different knots and hillbilly chants i believe on their ropes with success.Will have to redrill and tap or eszi out the broken bolt if mounting with the eyelet.

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[PeeBee]

I would not stuff with getting the broken one out if its not sharp against the rope. Drill and tap a new Hole or see what the other guys can suggest. Are you going to remove the winch from the vehicle, if so then it opens up some access options, plus you might like to go with a welded bar 'hoop' on the drum so you simply pass the rope under the hoop and tie a big knot on the end, or have seen this on Thomas PTO, they drill a hole in the side of the drum side plate and pass the rope thru the hole and big knot, but you need the clearance to spin the knot.

[MudRunnerTD]

Hi Jaycee, did the rope come with that lug like that or did you add it and crimp with bolt cutters? If it came like that then it is pretty average, if you did the crimp then it will do. I would add 1 more crimp though as there is room to do 1. If you have access to a hydraulic crimper then do it again.

I would probably use an ezyout and take the broken bolt out. It will be a through hole and not founded so should not be tight, it might be rusted though so some penetrative spray for a day will help.

If you can get a new bolt in that goes through that lug then happy days, do that. If not, I sourced some 5mm dyneema style rope off ebay and use a length to tie the rope onto the drum. I tie it too the welded ring on my Deltatek as I use 12mm rope and it would not fit through the lug.

You really want a good connection and at least 8 wraps around your drum for safety, this stuff is slippery but locks on well. Put the 8 wraps on then sitting in your car have someone walk out front holding up your rope until you can see it out front over your bonnet, when you can see the rope for the first time sitting in the car that is your safety length. Add a couple of metres for safety and then paint it yellow. That is then end of your rope. It it not a define measurement, it is a position on your rope, wherever it lands.

[10G]

That bolt just holds the end so it doesn't circle around the drum all the time.

I've even just lay the rope along the drum and then run tape over it, then run the rest of the rope over the taped part as I wound it in.

I'd suggest you track down one these rope locks/brakes/bowties - https://www.roadrunneroffroad.com.au/Red-Winches-Plasma-Lock-ROPE-RETENTION-Device

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I've used one before and they really lock the rope onto the drum, you'll never risj running the rope off the drum if you use one. Also you may like to fit a sheath down the drum end of the rope, then you can tell when you're down to your last 1, 2, 3 metres etc.

[10G]

this is more realistically priced, but it's not hard to make your own if you have the stuff.

https://www.devon4x4.com/rope-retainer.html

[MudRunnerTD]

this is more realistically priced, but it's not hard to make your own if you have the stuff.

https://www.devon4x4.com/rope-retainer.html

Thanks, that one is a bit shorter and only allows 4 runs of rope v the 8 to 10 on the Red. After currancy converions there is not much in it. Both Road Runner and QuickAzz are out of stock of the redwinch ones and Quickazz are cheapest as they dont charge postage.

I will be buying one as long as it fits the 12mm rope though it. i like it.

[MudRunnerTD]

Yo John, I brought a hook thats made with plasma/Dyneema in mind
Of course its a TJM product rated and didnt break the bank. Those rope
terminals make things neater, you can leave to hook off till its time to
go 4x4ing.
If youre going to hook the rope up under the patrol , can I suggest you
put some split tubing over the exposed section. stops it being sand blasted
while just driving around

I used to run this hook. What i dont like about it is that i hvae to punch out the pin to remove the hook and then the rope has a steel thimble on it and your washing machine wont like it.

Most comp guys have gone to this style of hook. This is what i have on my Himount.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/5-3t-13mm-Large-Winch-sling-Recovery-Hook-G80-for-Nissan-Patrol-GQ-GU-4x4-comp-t/302934214848

It also wont get full of mud like the hinged type.

[MudRunnerTD]

Loop on the end of your rope. Half hitch through the hole for the win.

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[jay see]

Loop on the end of your rope. Half hitch through the hole for the win.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/10/48.jpg


Sent from my SM-G977B using TapatalkThat's a knot yeah?

I was going to use hammer lock. I've got the same hook bug rated 3.2.http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/10/49.jpg

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[jay see]

Not planning on taking out the winch PeeBee
MudRunnerTD that's how the rope came with the lag. Purchased from roadrunner.
10G thanks for the links. Think I'll be going that way.

Thanks for the help guys really appreciate it..

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[MudRunnerTD]

That's a knot yeah?

I was going to use hammer lock. I've got the same hook bug rated 3.2.http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/10/49.jpg

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Hi mate, if you are going to but that rope lock the cut that tab off and seal the end with some heat shrink so it doesn't frey. If you splice in a loop to the other end for your hook all you do is put the loop through the hook hole the the other end through the loop. Lasso. That way there is No metal thimble to wreck your washing machine either.

[MudRunnerTD]

Here are photos of mine. I did the splice loop ans fitted the sheath to the loop.

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[jay see]

The rope has a loop on the hook end already.

Is will work??http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/10/56.jpg

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[Rossco]

Yeah that'll work good. Best to minimize the hardware if ya don't need it. Have a hook and rope on work car and just snitched like that. .

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[MudRunnerTD]

The rope has a loop on the hook end already.

Is will work??http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/10/56.jpg

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Yeah mate, when that is pulled tight it will be identical to my pics. Perfect.

[MB]

Rocking & Rolling Now Jaysee Mate!
You’ve got your new welder, have a crack at a four sided tacking of an 8mm x 30mm rod or a half 8mm cut chain link in the corner of your winch spool?
Daz can guide you through a decent monkey fist type knot or double granny half arse it like me :-)
Sometimes we desperately need those extra few rotations beyond 8 maybe to say 3 overlapping hitched after a fixed mechanical knot?


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[jay see]

Rocking & Rolling Now Jaysee Mate!
You’ve got your new welder, have a crack at a four sided tacking of an 8mm x 30mm rod or a half 8mm cut chain link in the corner of your winch spool?
Daz can guide you through a decent monkey fist type knot or double granny half arse it like me :-)
Sometimes we desperately need those extra few rotations beyond 8 maybe to say 3 overlapping hitched after a fixed mechanical knot?


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Nah, I reckon I'll go that little strap thingo, but I will have a couple flags on the rope one at 1st full wrap of the drum and another at 2nd.

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[MB]

Pinkies covered in mud, I’ve watched the 5<>10 minute strappy installation YouTubeys....Impossible :-)


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[jay see]

Redrill and tap might be the easiest way.
I'll worry about it when I get to it.

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[threedogs]

not a fan of those hooks only because that clip bends very easyly
other than hat if its rated and does the jod alls good

[MB]

I do get what you’re saying John-TD Mate but I’ve been running two of them (one ute/one wagon) for maybe 3-4 years now and original advisors of them finding trouble free too for decades I believe?
The rough hack handling low potential of the clip bending for me far outweighs other similar options getting mud clogged mechanisms and rendered useless when in desperate need out there.
Eliminating Bow Shackles and simply connecting these great big hooks direct to tree trunk protectors (both ends at once) has been a thankful honest game changer for us [emoji106][emoji106]


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[mudski]

Where did you get the hook from John. I still need to get one for mine.


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[Rossco]

Roadrunner sell em . .

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[Winnie]

Yeah mine looks exactly the same and got it from roadrunner.
I prefer that style hook as well.

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[jay see]

Where did you get the hook from John. I still need to get one for mine.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkCorrect gents. Got it and the rope from Roadrunner, they also have the larger 5.3t.

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[MB]

Keble’s also, many rigging type stores closer for your ‘Click & Touchless Collect’ on your way home from Truck work Mr Mark [emoji106][emoji106]


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[jay see]

Got some prep work done today to finish off the winch tomorrow. Drilling into the drum there must be two parts. The drum must rotate on another shaft. So I drilled and tapped then rotated the drum to clear the inner shaft (this doesn't move)shortened the bolt to suit and it works. Dummy fit to make sure that it all lines up and painted the plate black. Will weld in the plate, attached the rope and bolt up the fairlead.http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/10/91.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/10/92.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/10/93.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/10/94.jpg

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[mudski]

Make sure that bolt thread length is only enough for the eye and the thread in the drum mate. The brake is inside the drum so the bolt must not protrude through. Just in case you weren’t aware....

Coming along real nice though John. Are you going to get the bar sandblasted and powder coated when your done.


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[jay see]

Yeah, I worked out that bit after I drilled. I span the drum to clear the hole in the brake. I might take a little more off the bolt,

Not going to do anything about paint. A new paint job on just the bar won't suit the rest of the car.

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[jay see]

Job done [emoji736]

Good from far far from good, but hey it works. I know that I said that I wasn't going to paint the bar, but the paint blistered after welding in the plate. Had some black paint and touched up that area and it looked pretty good, so I washed down the whole bar with some mineral turps and gave it a fresh coat.

Now we really need to go on another weekend away so I can tension the rope.

Still need to sort out a winch switch on the bar and get some wires up to that roof console, but that's for another time.http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/10/105.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/10/106.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/10/107.jpg

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[jay see]

Picked up the patrol from the beaters.
I've never seen it look like this, bloody wrapped. Scrub bars and sliders are on order and will be raptor coated too.


Will get some better shots during the day.http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2021/03/249.jpg

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[Rossco]

Looks bloody awesome mate [emoji106]

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[Truckus]

Looking the good Jay, interested in seeing how she comes up in Raptor!

Was thinking of it for Truckus, but he has needed money spent elsewhere ATM, so thats on the back burner.

[jay see]

It looks great. What tires are those?305/70/16 BFG on ROH rims.
I got a find out what they used to clean the rims and tyres they came up smick.
Looks bloody awesome mate [emoji106]

Sent from my SM-G930F using TapatalkCheers Rossco.
I must admit I didn't really care too much how it looked before, but now I want to keep it looking like this.
Looking the good Jay, interested in seeing how she comes up in Raptor!

Was thinking of it for Truckus, but he has needed money spent elsewhere ATM, so thats on the back burner.We'll get some pictures of the bar up probably over the weekend.

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[mudski]

Wow! Looks nice mate. A far cry from the faded look it had prior. You have to get those windows tinted though mate. It will not only look better but so much better on the inside too. My rear section is totally blacked out. Best thing ever.

[jay see]

Wow! Looks nice mate. A far cry from the faded look it had prior. You have to get those windows tinted though mate. It will not only look better but so much better on the inside too. My rear section is totally blacked out. Best thing ever.Yeah being wanting to do the the windows since day one, but keep pushing it back to do other things. Still wanna get a locker too...[emoji17]

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[jay see]

I want to stop the power to my antenna. Reading online fist it was the purple one with a white strip, then blue, now I've cut 3 wires behind the plug and it still works.

Does anyone know.http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2021/03/271.jpg

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[nissannewby]

Take the inner guard off and just unplug it while its in the up position.

[jay see]

Take the inner guard off and just unplug it while its in the up position.Yeah I know, but the plug was easier to get to.

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[jay see]

A couple of pics taken today at soccer.

The bar wasn't done in raptor, but the beater said that the stuff that he used is meant to be harder. Who knows..http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2021/03/272.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2021/03/273.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2021/03/274.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2021/03/275.jpg

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[Cremulator]

I want to stop the power to my antenna. Reading online fist it was the purple one with a white strip, then blue, now I've cut 3 wires behind the plug and it still works.

Does anyone know.http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2021/03/271.jpg

Sent from my CPH1979 using TapatalkDo you have an antenna control switch like this?
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The other place to look is on the back of the head unit there is an antenna control wire that triggers power to the antenna when the stereo is turned on.

[jay see]

Do you have an antenna control switch like this?
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2021/03/276.jpg
The other place to look is on the back of the head unit there is an antenna control wire that triggers power to the antenna when the stereo is turned on.Not any more. Using a AM/FM wip. That's why I don't want the antenna to work. The head unit is wired up through a switch and to the aux battery. Unplugging from the antenna will probably be best. Will see how I go tomorrow, soccer isn't till later in the afternoon..

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[mudski]

Remove the inner guard to access the antenna motor and unplug it from the motor.

[jay see]

Getting a few to things done.

Unplugged antenna, now to get the flare back on properly.

Out with the old in with the new.

and finally getting this roof console sorted. Continuing tomorrow.
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[mudski]

Time for you do do this mate....
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?20566-GU-Second-glove-box-mod-DIY!!!&highlight=glove

[jay see]

Time for you do do this mate....
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?20566-GU-Second-glove-box-mod-DIY!!!&highlight=gloveYeah maybe, there's a bit of storage space in the console itself will see have it all goes.

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[jay see]

It's not completely finished, but it all works. Will need to find another radio surround, bloody wreckers wanted $70 I'll find something on marketplace.http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2021/04/111.jpg

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[jay see]

I was at my folks place last night and was flicking through the local paper and saw ad for a tyre place in South Morang rang them up this morning and was quoted 1900, asked if they could do 1800 and if they had them in stock. Yes and yes.

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Did a few tight u turns and no robbing at all[emoji23]. This is will the wheel turned. It may be due to the 2 degree offset brush.

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One concern I had was in the wet, well today was a good day to test them, drove a bit harder into the corners around home and I'm impressed.

Drivers side.
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Passenger side.
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Almost 5 years to the day and we'll over 100,000 km.

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[jay see]

Lockdown has given me some spare time, so I'm going to swap out my winch.

Now my positive and negative cables from the battery are in good condition and neatly positioned in conduit to the front. Is there any reason why I need to change them? What should I use to give the ends a good clean?

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[Hodge]

Lockdown has given me some spare time, so I'm going to swap out my winch.

Now my positive and negative cables from the battery are in good condition and neatly positioned in conduit to the front. Is there any reason why I need to change them? What should I use to give the ends a good clean?

Sent from my CPH1979 using TapatalkWhat size are the existing cables ? Runva 13xp comes / needs 35mm2 .
With the terminals just use something abrasive with some CRC , Lanolin etc...

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[jay see]

Nevermind. I'm going to use what has been supplied even the isolator switch.

How did you get the 13xp in mate.
I emailed runva and they said that it wouldn't fit and I can see why, I've got no room and I had to trim the a/c fan a little.http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2021/08/74.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2021/08/75.jpg

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[Hodge]

Hmmmm. What bar you got ??
I have a ARB deluxe bar and I can literally fit a second 13XP in.

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[jay see]

Bar not so much the issue. The cradle is.
Getting the Raslarr bar fitted soon so we'll see how that goes.

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[jay see]

All finished and put back together.

I don't know how I'm going to go with the new bar. I had to mount the control box on top of the bar, where the old one was over the rope but a fair bit forward. Anyway time will tell.

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[nissannewby]

You can get a little creative with it. The cables are a good length to the controller on the runva out of the box. I have mounted them behind grills and even in the engine bay. You should only have to plug into it if the remote doesn't work.

[jay see]

You can get a little creative with it. The cables are a good length to the controller on the runva out of the box. I have mounted them behind grills and even in the engine bay. You should only have to plug into it if the remote doesn't work.Yeah I was thinking about.
Probably not behind the grill, no room there, but like how the solenoid was mounted on the old one. Above and forward. Heaps of room and protected by the bar. I'll wait till the new bars on and see what options I have. Don't really want/like it on top of the bar.

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[jay see]

Now onto another issue that's been pissing me off for a while.

The lean.

Is it possible that one spring has lost tension sometimes. I measured it today and got a 20 mm difference, but sometimes it looks level. I will also measure when it looks right.http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2021/08/100.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2021/08/101.jpg

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[jay see]

Forgot to mention that before I took out the old winch I gave it another shot and the bloody thing worked. I run all the rope out and back in and out again.....

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[jay see]

Fitted a genuine Nissan snorkel, some bar work and a lick of paint

I may have lost the argument but I won the war.

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[rusty_nail]

wow mate, it looks amazing!!!!!!!!!

[Rossco]

Wow looks awesome mate[emoji106][emoji106]

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[mudski]

Fark me! Mint!

[jay see]

Fark me! Mint!Fark me alright.

Alternator has just about shit itself.

Driving home from soccer and lm at 13v

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[mudski]

Haha! there always something hey!

[jay see]

We're back in business babyhttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2021/12/13.jpg

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[mudski]

where did you get the alternator from?

[jay see]

where did you get the alternator from?https://cometbattery.com.au/

Brand new 110v $250 straight off the shelf.

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[jay see]

Need some advice.

I know that some of you have a fixed solar panel on your rack.

My question is what size panel should I be looking at. I run a console fridge which I turn off when I know that I'm not driving the car for a day or two. I have forgotten and have found the fridge off and the battery low. Is 100w too little and is 200 too big. I just want to keep the battery topped up

Cheers..

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[Hodge]

Hey John mate. I personally think this depends on your charger type and/or your battery type .
Is the fridge fed off the main battery or aux?

I have a 110W panel on the roof. It charges a lithium battery which feeds my 47L fridge which is on 100% of the time all year round and unless I'm stationery camping the setup never falls below 90% battery charge all year round.
I use the Victron 12V gear.

Again like I said above. It depends on the rest of your setup. But for me the small-ish 110w works perfect. And if I need extra juice. The 120w solar blanket plugs straight in.

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[PeeBee]

I run 2 x 200W panels on my rack. I went up from 2 x 60W shade tolerant canon panels that served me well, however I am a wasteful power pig when camping and want my food icy cold and drinks the same, plus run any amount of 12v gobbling appliances. Remember the power output is at 100% output and you are going to see maybe 60% at best of time, and its for a limited amount of time during the day, efficiency drops above 25degC ...blah blah. Anyway these keep my 400ah charged up nicely in 40degc and i am happy. .

[Mickhead]

I have a kings 120 watt solar panel on the roof running thru a MPPT kings controller. Supacentre is not bullshitting their specs like a lot of ebay sellers, it is 120 watts and it is MPPT and it is a fair price. Solar panels… 1 square metre of direct sun light = 1000 watts. At 18% efficiency a typical 1 x1 metre solar panel will max out at 180 watts. Remember this when you buy off ebay.
My kings setup runs my second shitty lead acid under bonnet battery with VSR which powers a crappy aldi 40 lt fridge all year round, with room to spare for the occasional travel buddy morning tea. Weekday driven about 50k to work and back😀

[PeeBee]

How do you validate these numbers? Solar density across Australia varies from 300 - 600w/m2 density from what I understand, and the 1000w/m2 is achieved in outer space and used as lab rating. For max efficiency I work on 600w/m2 and 16% efficiency, simply as a tolerance, as the latest NASA panels are pushing 22% but we are not able to access them, plus the panels are quickly de-rated at temps above 25 degC and the number of hours solar impact perpendicular to the panel. The MPPT controllers certainly assist with the optimisation, I just think the output is a lot less than perceived, hence why my panel area and watt output is high for the 6amp load- intermittent - from the 60L engel.

Happy to stand corrected, but from a marketing perspective, there isn't a marketing guy out there that will sell something based on real numbers, more on the maximum possible, even if its unachievable.

[jay see]

Cheers guys.

Sorry forgot to mention the battery. It's a 140ah AGM.

I'm looking at this.

https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/p/ridge-ryder-ridge-ryder-caravan-solar-panel-kit-110-watt/580634.html#q=Solar%2Bpanels&lang=en_AU&start=2

If needed for a longer stay I've got a 160 watt folding unit.

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[MB]

jay see Mate, worth checking out what Cremulator Legend has done/did [emoji106][emoji106]


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[MB]

Usage needs: You’re not currently touring John Mate, simply running a little fridge if read correctly? For this purpose I’m not a big fan of taking up full, half or even quarter open roof rack space as guaranteed Mrs See will book you in for a 2.4x1.2m Ikea pickup oneday soon…..all of us [emoji22]
Please do have a gander at Cremulator ‘s great concept, personally ran 2 x 120W easily removable yet solid panels under my DX ute rack similar many years ago (nowhere near as refined) yet still used to make ice-cubes/blocks’ in an old Trailblazer 60L freezer for Margarita Murray River afternoons on 2 x 120ah wet batteries [emoji23][emoji123][emoji106][emoji106]


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[Cremulator]

jay see Mate, worth checking out what Cremulator Legend has done/did [emoji106][emoji106]


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI think MB is referring to the table slide I made for my roof rack, but could certainly house a rigid solar panel.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?p=828198
[emoji106]

[Hodge]

Cheers guys.

Sorry forgot to mention the battery. It's a 140ah AGM.

I'm looking at this.

https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/p/ridge-ryder-ridge-ryder-caravan-solar-panel-kit-110-watt/580634.html#q=Solar%2Bpanels&lang=en_AU&start=2

If needed for a longer stay I've got a 160 watt folding unit.

Sent from my CPH1921 using TapatalkThat's the very panel that I've got on my roof rack.


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[jay see]

Thanks guys.

Mb as good as the slide system is I don't think I'll go that way.

Another question.

I'm currently using a basic redarc sbi12 isolator, what's the go if I install the panel, will both be feeding the battery while driving?

Fridge is connected to aux battery.

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[jff45]

I have a slide out 100w panel under my roof rack because it’s only a 3/4 rack. The slide is simple square ally tube on each side running in ally angle slung underneath.
It has to be pulled out to be efficient. I’ve measured 5 amps on a good day with my clamp meter.

I don’t use a separate controller, I have the solar input on the DC/DC charger.


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[PeeBee]

I like both these concepts, however will need to see what I can make work. The HH antenna on the rear might limit my rear options, and the rack support legs might be just that bit close for the side - thinking .......

[Mickhead]

How do you validate these numbers? Solar density across Australia varies from 300 - 600w/m2 density from what I understand, and the 1000w/m2 is achieved in outer space and used as lab rating. For max efficiency I work on 600w/m2 and 16% efficiency, simply as a tolerance, as the latest NASA panels are pushing 22% but we are not able to access them, plus the panels are quickly de-rated at temps above 25 degC and the number of hours solar impact perpendicular to the panel. The MPPT controllers certainly assist with the optimisation, I just think the output is a lot less than perceived, hence why my panel area and watt output is high for the 6amp load- intermittent - from the 60L engel.

Happy to stand corrected, but from a marketing perspective, there isn't a marketing guy out there that will sell something based on real numbers, more on the maximum possible, even if its unachievable.

Dont really go as far as you to validate the numbers, I just measure the panels area in square meters, multiply by 1000, then multiply by .18. So the 120 watt kings one works out to around 120 watts. Then I hook up an MPPT controller, with an cheap inline monitoring device either side. A expensive fluke dmm is placed inline, along with the fluke dc clamp. I connect it to a lithium battery that needs charging, not a near full one.In peak sunlight if the panel is not too hot I get enough amps to suggest the 120 watt claimed output is close.🤪🤪

[MB]

I have a slide out 100w panel under my roof rack because it’s only a 3/4 rack. The slide is simple square ally tube on each side running in ally angle slung underneath.
It has to be pulled out to be efficient. I’ve measured 5 amps on a good day with my clamp meter.

I don’t use a separate controller, I have the solar input on the DC/DC charger.


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That’s definitely the GO John jay see & John jff45 & Ash Cremulator Legends [emoji23][emoji106][emoji106]
At least ya’ll can stress less with full open racks chucking long campfire logs/limbs brutally up top too with a single rope/ratchet strap enroute back to base camp for re-cutting down to pretty little sizes there that tend to end up rolling onto our bonnets every time if done prior [emoji22] [emoji23]


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[mudski]

That’s definitely the GO John jay see & John jff45 & Ash Cremulator Legends [emoji23][emoji106][emoji106]
At least ya’ll can stress less with full open racks chucking long campfire logs/limbs brutally up top too with a single rope/ratchet strap enroute back to base camp for re-cutting down to pretty little sizes there that tend to end up rolling onto our bonnets every time if done prior [emoji22] [emoji23]


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I have a 120w panel on the top side of the roof rack. Its had everything stacked ontop of it, logs and all and still not broken. :animierte-smilies-t

[jay see]

Supercheap have 25% off Wednesday. I think I'll get it. I will have to check my isolator to see if it's compatible with solar.

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[MB]

Bargain John Mate [emoji106][emoji106] Be sure to grab Mudski one too….he’s much rougher than yoo [emoji23]


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[mudski]

Bargain John Mate [emoji106][emoji106] Be sure to grab Mudski one too….he’s much rougher than yoo [emoji23]


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Thanks for the vote of confidence there old chap!


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[MB]

You’re Welcome Mr Mark Mate Legend [emoji23] [emoji106][emoji106]
There was a member here IIRC that ingeniously covered his daily rack top solar panel with an acrylic, maybe polycarbonate beautifully folded protective cover?
My apologies, you may be rough but us Hillbillies are Fair Dinkum Pyromaniacs [emoji3062][emoji23]


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[Plasnart]

You’re Welcome Mr Mark Mate Legend [emoji23] [emoji106][emoji106]
There was a member here IIRC that ingeniously covered his daily rack top solar panel with an acrylic, maybe polycarbonate beautifully folded protective cover?
My apologies, you may be rough but us Hillbillies are Fair Dinkum Pyromaniacs [emoji3062][emoji23]


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Yes that was a very smart setup that one. Can't remember who though either unfortunately.

[Hodge]

You'll love that Panel John mate. Love how the sides are powder-coated almost the colour of the roof rack so it doesn't stand out.
I've had mine for a while. I've throw everything at it, on top of it, from swags to chunks of timber. It's been hit with a strap buckle so many times but not a scratch on it.

But DO NOT try drilling into it like some goose I know...... See my post below. Tempered glass.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?21197-What-has-made-you-Angry-Today&p=826245&viewfull=1#post826245

[jay see]

Cheers Hodge, I've just picked it up and need to pick your brain a little.

Step 1 and 3 are straight forward, but what's step 2? The books shows it as load.

Also I've ordered another redarc isolator sbi12d, the current one hasn't got the duel sensing. That will be just a straight swap out yeah?http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2022/01/197.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2022/01/198.jpg

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[Cremulator]

Load looks to me like the wiring you run to power something when the solar panel is operating (as it seems to be out of the MPPT controller).

[Hodge]

Hey John mate.
Step 2 looks like your Load connection.
Which I am only going to assume you will not use...

Those included charger / controllers , I've binned them both times I bought that panel.
As my panel is directly wired to my Victron MPPT.


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[jay see]

Cheers gents.

I started with mounting the panel and I need to drill some new holes so the lines up with my rack.

After flicking through the book, it's if you want to run a constant low power consuming electrical device which I'm not.

As for the regulator Hodge I will run with this one and see how it goes can always change if I need to.

Check you inbox too.

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[Brissieboy]

The steps are just the connection order for correct and safe operation of the controller:
1. connect battery
2. connect load
3. connect panel
Reverse the order when disconnecting.
You can skip the load connection if you are just using it to charge the battery without.

[Hodge]

Forgot to mention that this panel pools water on top when stationary due to the raised folded edges. You can see it on top of my panel here.
Which is why I attempted to drill the corners as drainage holes and in turn shattered the first panel I had.
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[jay see]

Job done.

Run out of some tidy up bits , but there's a bit that that wanna clean up.

Only thing I'm not too happy is how the cable enters the door. Was thinking black electrical tape along that section (one of the things that I run out of).

Should get the new redarc isolator on Monday and that's a swap out.

Thanks for your input gents..http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2022/01/203.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2022/01/204.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2022/01/205.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2022/01/206.jpg

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[PeeBee]

jaysee, I would route the cable into the roof gutter on the passenger side and sneak it across and to the rear of the snorkle, then down the back of the snorkle and into the gap between guard and pass door. then into engine bay or chassis rail or in thru the inside of the guard into pass footwell, assuming there is a similar route to the GQ. Cable remains very protected and you cab disguise the run in the gutter with corrugated sheath

[mudski]

John this is how my panel and light bar are routed.using 4mm twin core…
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[jay see]

jaysee, I would route the cable into the roof gutter on the passenger side and sneak it across and to the rear of the snorkle, then down the back of the snorkle and into the gap between guard and pass door. then into engine bay or chassis rail or in thru the inside of the guard into pass footwell, assuming there is a similar route to the GQ. Cable remains very protected and you cab disguise the run in the gutter with corrugated sheathI thought of that for about 1/2 second and that's too much work, well for me anyway.
John this is how my panel and light bar are routed.using 4mm twin core…
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Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThis I considered, as I can run the cable behind one of the legs of the rack. Only thing is I didn't have enough cable.

Will probably tape/conduit it for now and look at it again after.

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[jff45]

I found this to be the neatest option to pass the cables while I have the 2nd battery in the right rear and the solar/DC to DC unit behind the 2nd row seats.

It is more work with 2 layers of panel to drill through but you access it just behind the rear seat belt cover.


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[Brissieboy]

A lot of these cable ideas from racks to inside the vehicle have a bit of a problem because water will run down the cable into the cab. You should have a drip point before the cable enters the cab in an upward direction if possible, or else well seal the entry point.

[Hodge]

Heres how i routed mine into the cab.
But my battery is right under that window so to me it made sense. That air relief vent is already water and drip ready so it was a no brainer.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2022/01/213.jpg

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[jay see]

I do like the idea of running to the window vent. Hmm one day...

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[jay see]

Bye bye gas

Hello [emoji383][emoji383][emoji383] everytime need to fill up.http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2022/04/101.jpg

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[MB]

Happy Days Jaysee Mate [emoji106][emoji106]
Let’s find someone to tune the bejesus out of our weekend solely 95/98 RON 45 Explosions [emoji23][emoji122][emoji122]


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[jay see]

Already there mate, but first need to replace the original exhaust with a new system. Extractors to tailpipe

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[jay see]

Battery has been showing signs the last month or so. Completely dead this morning, trip to Autobarn and picked up a supercharged NS70LX GOLD PLUS for $200. It's amazing how you get use to a dying battery. The new one fired up within a split second first thing in the morning.

Also, finally got a chance to give it a decent clean inside and out after last weekend's trip. With great surprise there's not too many scratches down the sides, considering the narrow tracks, they should all buff out.

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[jay see]

Some suggestions on having cars parked up, should I disconnect the batteries? I'll probably start it and let it get to operating temp with the short drive up the street every couple of weeks. Is there anything that I really should do?



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[rusty_nail]

Not sure re the battery mate, but if you can put it on stands and lay tyres on their side, avoids a flat spot on them.

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[Rossco]

Yeah disconnect negative battery terminal (s) Give it a drive and or hook up to charger every so often . . .

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[jay see]

Not sure re the battery mate, but if you can put it on stands and lay tyres on their side, avoids a flat spot on them.

Sent from my SM-G988B using TapatalkGot flat spots on the Commodore after sitting for awhile, a drive smoothed them out, don't know if I'll get the same result with the bigger tyres.. stands might be the way to go..

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[jay see]

Yeah disconnect negative battery terminal (s) Give it a drive and or hook up to charger every so often . . .

Sent from my SM-G781B using TapatalkTrols parked in the sun, will the 110w panel be enough to trickle the batteries, it runs a dual sensing isolator..

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[mudski]

Trols parked in the sun, will the 110w panel be enough to trickle the batteries, it runs a dual sensing isolator..

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That will work. I used a 10W panel for a long time, which even worked, until I finally bought a decent charger.

[jay see]

Something that I've been wanting to do for a while was replace the carpet.

Well that day has arrived. While I'm at it I'm cleaning up the mess under the dash and rewiring everything from the aux battery.

It was all running under the carpet and up the dash behind the radio, then when I installed the roof console being lazy I put connecters and extended the wires under the dash and up the A pillar to the roof console.

Now it's all going from the aux battery to the centre pillar and to the roof console.http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2022/09/36.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2022/09/37.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2022/09/38.jpg

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[jay see]

Anyone seen or used these?

Or what are you using to tidy up the positive terminal..

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/393724485908?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-154756-20017-0&ssspo=rfjspx9nsu2&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=01oHWnmuRGe&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

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[nissannewby]

There are insulated posts you can bolt on as well as bus bar types. Either gets the mess away from the battery post.

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[jay see]

Carpet has been ordered, decided to go with a charcoal colour I'll also get some decent mats maybe the deep rubber ones.

Progress shots..http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2022/09/61.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2022/09/62.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2022/09/63.jpg

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[MudRunnerTD]

Looking good John,

The remote Pos+ post Newby mentions are a bit of a winner.

Consider a subfuse block to distribute the load rather than just a bulk number of supplies. A Narva style fuse block for the win.

Assuming your using the narrative block inside the car then a single 50amp wire running off a Midi Fuse at the Battery would be ideal.

Also note, Jaycar sell a 15amp rated 7 core trailer wire which could also be handy for colour coded sheathed wire up the A Pillar. Anything that needs bigger just switch through a relay anyway so the switching circuit in the 7 core switching the relay for the win.

[MudRunnerTD]

Something like this inside the car and just a single supply off the battery fused at the terminal to the positive post on the box then fused again with appropriate size fuses to each load.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/284300482335?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-154756-20017-0&ssspo=29FFQInFRhW&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=D7Hn_w-5TIG&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[jay see]

Looking good John,

The remote Pos+ post Newby mentions are a bit of a winner.

Consider a subfuse block to distribute the load rather than just a bulk number of supplies. A Narva style fuse block for the win.

Assuming your using the narrative block inside the car then a single 50amp wire running off a Midi Fuse at the Battery would be ideal.

Also note, Jaycar sell a 15amp rated 7 core trailer wire which could also be handy for colour coded sheathed wire up the A Pillar. Anything that needs bigger just switch through a relay anyway so the switching circuit in the 7 core switching the relay for the win.I've ready have 10amp trailer wire running from the rear to the centre console to power up a couple of USB sockets. I'm using the rest for the roof console..
Something like this inside the car and just a single supply off the battery fused at the terminal to the positive post on the box then fused again with appropriate size fuses to each load.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/284300482335?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-154756-20017-0&ssspo=29FFQInFRhW&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=D7Hn_w-5TIG&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPYLike this.

All hidden when the seat is up.

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[jay see]

All done under the bonnet. Better than what it was, but still haven't decided on which block to use, all wires are rather under the dash or up to the roof console ready to be connected ordered a couple of things for the inside..

Last pic was before.


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[jay see]

This has been pushed back due to others things, but I managed to get some patrol time in today.

I've only just discovered that my rocker switches are 4 pin and the new one that I brought for the radio is a 5 pin. I'm missing pin 6 which is lower dash light positive.

What do I use on the 4 pin switches to power up the lower light?

Cheers in advance..http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2022/10/62.jpg

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[jay see]

Motivation day.

Finished off the wiring, mounted all the switches on a proper housing and the UHF in the roof console. Have the carpet in for a trial fit. Will get some foam from work to use as underlay.

Getting close now. Next will be to replace the springs to get rid of the horrible lean it has and some heavy duty sway bars as I keep breaking the front one.

Will need a new second hand steering wheel and a radio surround that doesn't have extra holes in it, then it's time of a Roady and club reg..

We're getting there..http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2022/11/24.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2022/11/25.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2022/11/26.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2022/11/27.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2022/11/28.jpg

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[BrazilianY60]

That carpet is looking nice.
The only thing I would change is to move the USB charger from the overhead to the lower dash. Otherwise you will have charging cables hanging from the roof all the time.

[MB TD42]

I lke the switch module...good call on the USB Brazilian.

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[Brissieboy]

I reckon the USB is a good idea. I have a one up top close to the screen so I can have a dash-cam up behind the mirror without dangling leads.

[Rossco]

Looking good mate. Where did you get the carpet thinking about getting some for GQ down the track has coped a fair bit of mud over the years lol. . Not sure if there is any way of getting dash lights to work if switch only has 4 pins damitt but could be wrong. .

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[jay see]

That carpet is looking nice.
The only thing I would change is to move the USB charger from the overhead to the lower dash. Otherwise you will have charging cables hanging from the roof all the time.I've had a USB charger there for a while, I keep the cable plugged in but only have the end poking out from inbetween the roof lining and the console. Hasn't bothered me.
Looking good mate. Where did you get the carpet thinking about getting some for GQ down the track has coped a fair bit of mud over the years lol. . Not sure if there is any way of getting dash lights to work if switch only has 4 pins damitt but could be wrong. .

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Couldn't find anything to wire up the 4 pin, so for now I've ran a positive to behind the switches till I get new 5 pin ones.

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[BrazilianY60]

I reckon the USB is a good idea. I have a one up top close to the screen so I can have a dash-cam up behind the mirror without dangling leads.

That never occurred to me... Interesting point.

[jay see]

Nearly there.

Had my son do the windscreen last weekend and between then and today I've just about finished the inside. Need to clean some more of the plastics, reinstall the fridge and fit all the plastic covers for the seats legs.

If anyone is going to replace their carpet I strongly recommend that you buy one with all the holes cut out, saves a lot of time and a bit of guess work.

Still to do.

Replace springs
New sway bars and links (will extended links pass a rwc?)
Steering wheel or cover.
Is it that hard to find a radio surround that hasn't been cut up with extra holes? Yes..

Don't think I will need anything else for a rwc, but we'll see..http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2022/11/67.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2022/11/68.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2022/11/69.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2022/11/70.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2022/11/71.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2022/11/72.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2022/11/73.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2022/11/74.jpg

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[jay see]

Need some suggestions on springs please.

What experience have you guys had good or bad with different brands. Tough dog, Dobinsons, EFS, OMG, KIng springs Pedders....

I currently have 2" flexie coils matched with 4" shocks and I'm happy with this set up, but I can't find anyone that makes them now.

Definitely want to stay at 2" lift.

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[MB]

G’day John Mate [emoji106][emoji106]
Bang for buck, I’ve been very happy with Dobinsons coils 4 corners for about 5ish + maybe 10 years now across GU’s & Q’s, maybe a baby Maverick too [emoji23]
Up front honestly though, far from a suspension expert I am but have replaced some of the originally bought ‘variable rate’ versions/variants with ‘constant rate’ near equivalents.
Reason being, I personally nuffy found that the variables (although greater load listed) than constant equivalents of lesser ratings listed sagged after a lot less after true variable alternating punishment if that makes sense [emoji23]


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[jay see]

We'll today didn't go as planned. Was meant to be a straight in and out with the new springs and fit up the new sway bar links.

Swapped out the old springs, and discovered that 3 out of 4 shocks have no return in them. I checked them all when I started having the lean issue and all were fine. Anyway the old suspension set up is 7 years old and around 150,000 km , so probably over due, shocks are 41mm tough dog foam cell,

Recommendations, stay with tough dog (which I've been happy with) or go with something else..

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[MB]

Bang for buck proclaiming again John Mate, Dobinsons now have 3 levels/range of coin shock [emoji106][emoji106]
Original, twin tubes which have always (last decade) served me cost wise happily very well & their remote reservoir full tilt more expensive performance variants unfortunately out of reach. Worth checking out their middle of the range/performance IMS shocks:

https://dobinsons.com/suspension/shock-absorbers/ims


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[jay see]

Bang for buck proclaiming again John Mate

Always mate, always..

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[MB]

Meant meself you Duffa [emoji23]
FWIW: Was convinced by Young GQ owner Legend on the counter in Dandenong to spend the extra coupla hundgy on the mid-range for our Baby Short Mav [emoji38]


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[jay see]

Well I was hoping on possibly being the first GU on club reg, still might happen only taking a bit longer than expected..

Being buying up the last few weeks and today was patrol day.

New Springs and shocks (took MB advice) and rear brake pads. Steering wheel and radio surround was a good score at the local wreckers.

Old tough dog foam cell did around 150,000 km in 7-8 years and now have no return. Replacing the 25 year steering with one with no rips and I reckon the best score was the radio surround with only 2 little screw holes and nothing else, never seen one without and antenna switch.

Question on the sway bar links..

You can see that once I cut the thread to size it won't line up straight to the bar, if I force it, it will have a lot of pressure against it. What am I missing here.

Can't wait to get this thing back on the road..http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2023/01/18.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2023/01/19.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2023/01/20.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2023/01/21.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2023/01/22.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2023/01/23.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2023/01/24.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2023/01/25.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2023/01/26.jpg

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[PeeBee]

The rod will pivot in the rubbers, my front and rear sway bars were the same, not a lot of accuracy intended.

[PeeBee]

Well I was hoping on possibly being the first GU on club reg, still might happen only taking a bit longer than expected..

Being buying up the last few weeks and today was patrol day.

New Springs and shocks (took MB advice) and rear brake pads. Steering wheel and radio surround was a good score at the local wreckers.

Old tough dog foam cell did around 150,000 km in 7-8 years and now have no return. Replacing the 25 year steering with one with no rips and I reckon the best score was the radio surround with only 2 little screw holes and nothing else, never seen one without and antenna switch.

Question on the sway bar links..

You can see that once I cut the thread to size it won't line up straight to the bar, if I force it, it will have a lot of pressure against it. What am I missing here.

Can't wait to get this thing back on the road..http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2023/01/18.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2023/01/19.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2023/01/20.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2023/01/21.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2023/01/22.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2023/01/23.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2023/01/24.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2023/01/25.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2023/01/26.jpg

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John, did you take the car into their workshop and get them to weigh it, each corner before selecting the springs? Did they fit the springs or you? I had them do the lot to ensure the right 'numbers' went into the spring selector and ensure it was sitting flat after the job. I have dobbo springs and like them and their service. I use the Dandenong workshop.

[jay see]

The rod will pivot in the rubbers, my front and rear sway bars were the same, not a lot of accuracy intended.

Thanks for clearing that up..


John, did you take the car into their workshop and get them to weigh it, each corner before selecting the springs? Did they fit the springs or you? I had them do the lot to ensure the right 'numbers' went into the spring selector and ensure it was sitting flat after the job. I have dobbo springs and like them and their service. I use the Dandenong workshop.

No, I didn't know that they offered that service. I ordered the springs through road runner and discovered the shocks were no good a couple of weeks later and ordered the IMS with road runner again.

Would have done the same if I knew..

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[jay see]

Hopefully that's it now.

Installed the new sway bar links and gave the interior a good wipe down and vacuum.

Mechanic reopens tomorrow and will book it in for the 1st inspection, I'll done what I know needs to be done so we'll see how it goes..

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[jay see]

On the last trip I pierced a small hole in the metal a/c line. Tightening up the positive battery terminal I hit the line and pierced a little hole. Managed to stop lake with a cable tie to get home now want to do a permanent fix. I brought some of that steel stick, but the oil is squirting out it just won't hold to bond.

Any ideas Winnie I believe you had the same issue once before..http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2023/04/67.jpg

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[BigRAWesty]

On the last trip I pierced a small hole in the metal a/c line. Tightening up the positive battery terminal I hit the line and pierced a little hole. Managed to stop lake with a cable tie to get home now want to do a permanent fix. I brought some of that steel stick, but the oil is squirting out it just won't hold to bond.

Any ideas Winnie I believe you had the same issue once before..http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2023/04/67.jpg

Sent from my CPH1921 using TapatalkJb weld is good stuff. And kneed it.
But best to get a replacement if you can.

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[jay see]

A bit of help please..

Is there a difference between the rd28 and tb45 on the air con line that runs along the guard..

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[jay see]

A bit of help please..

Is there a difference between the rd28 and tb45 on the air con line that runs along the guard..

Sent from my CPH1921 using TapatalkNevermind, I've decided to take it out and get it welded at work, but as soon as I loosen the nut there's oil coming out. Is that normal and what happens when I've refitted the tube is it just a straight regas, what about the oil that's been lost..

Sorry guys I've never done anything with air conditioning before

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[mudski]

The oil is there to lubricate the compressor. When getting a re gas they should re oil at the same time I assume.


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[jay see]

Another job that has been pushed back too many times is almost done. Need some washers and conduit to completely trick it off.http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2023/05/42.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2023/05/43.jpg

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[mudski]

Hopefully that's it now.

Installed the new sway bar links and gave the interior a good wipe down and vacuum.

Mechanic reopens tomorrow and will book it in for the 1st inspection, I'll done what I know needs to be done so we'll see how it goes..
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Those Rose joints on the links are shit. After barely anytime they will squeak and rattle, you grease them up, and after a few drives, they'll squeak and rattle. Patrol a Part have a fix for this but they are expensive.

[jay see]

Those Rose joints on the links are shit. After barely anytime they will squeak and rattle, you grease them up, and after a few drives, they'll squeak and rattle. Patrol a Part have a fix for this but they are expensive.What is it about it that's not good. I was thinking of changing the grease nipple. I only went for the extended because I was sick of changing broken sway bar links..

You see my PM from the other day..

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[mudski]

What is it about it that's not good. I was thinking of changing the grease nipple. I only went for the extended because I was sick of changing broken sway bar links..

You see my PM from the other day..

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The Rose joint ends. Are not designed for this type of work and wear out fast. The link part itself is fine.

No message from you mate...

[jay see]

The Rose joint ends. Are not designed for this type of work and wear out fast. The link part itself is fine.

No message from you mate...Check now..

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[jay see]

https://patrolapart.com.au/product/heavy-duty-sway-bar-link-set-2-3-lift-suits-nissan-patrol-gu-y61

Is this what your talking about..

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[mudski]

https://patrolapart.com.au/product/heavy-duty-sway-bar-link-set-2-3-lift-suits-nissan-patrol-gu-y61

Is this what your talking about..

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Yep! They have seemed to have dropped the price since I last looked.


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[jay see]

My control box has been sitting on a couple of dodgy brackets and some cable ties for long enough. I would like to mount it behind the bar as there's heaps of room and it will be better protected, but for now this would do..http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2023/12/21.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2023/12/22.jpg

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[mudski]

Looks like you have plenty of room to hide it in the bar there mate.


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[jay see]

So I decided to bite a big bullet and get a pre trip inspection done. I knew that I was going to be up for a fair bit.
While it was there I got a full exhaust system fitted as the original was well due for a change.

I've ordered just about all the parts and reckon I can do everything at home with no more than $2500.00.

Some of the prices in the quote are over the top and some of the parts that I purchased were on sale at patrol a part.

Busy weekend with a good outlook.. http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/02/60.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/02/61.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/02/62.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/02/63.jpg

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[mudski]

What’s it like with the new pipe?


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[jay see]

What’s it like with the new pipe?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSounds better and there's no more leaks. Haven't got it out for a decent run yet..

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[jay see]

Got a few hours in today.

Radius arm bushes were last changed in 2015

Sway bar, Panhard, radius arms and steering rod all out.
The metal bush from the radius arms fell out..

Just for you mudski those links.. I did buy the ones from patrol a part and will be replacing them.

Had a look at the rear trailing arms and with the rock sliders in the way of the bolts. The sub tank needs to be removed to move the sliders out of the way. Don't know what I'll do about it..
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[jay see]

Ok, just about got everything done in the driveway at home.

The ac compressor has decided that it doesn't want to come out. Got the 2 bolts from underneath out and one next to the engine mount, there's one more somewhere between the tensioner and the compressor. I've taken out the only 2 that I can see and it still won't budge. It needs to pull away from the block but it won't..

That and the trailing arms, which are going to be fun to get out. Not looking forward to tomorrow.

A bit of battle scars.

Took off some skin when the end of the spanner which I was using as leverage slipped and caught my skin.http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/03/1.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/03/2.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/03/3.jpg

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[jay see]

Oh I forgot.

The inspection guy didn't pick up on the steering damper being completely gone. I have ordered a new efs one..

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[jay see]

Well I'm done.

Trailing arms and a/c are getting done next week. I managed to do everything else.

Fired it up and once it got to temp I now have the low oil pressure light on, bring the revs up to about 1200 rpm and beyond and it goes out. I can hear tappet noise when the light is on.
I changed my oil with 20 50 and filter no difference. I've had the air intake off, changed the oil pressure switch and the rocket cover gasket over the last few days.


I've never had that light come on before.

Any ideas.

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[mudski]

Oh I forgot.

The inspection guy didn't pick up on the steering damper being completely gone. I have ordered a new efs one..

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Haha mine fell off during my recent trip up to SW QLD. I drove another 2000ks without it on. Couldn’t even tell.


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[mudski]

Well I'm done.

Trailing arms and a/c are getting done next week. I managed to do everything else.

Fired it up and once it got to temp I now have the low oil pressure light on, bring the revs up to about 1200 rpm and beyond and it goes out. I can hear tappet noise when the light is on.
I changed my oil with 20 50 and filter no difference. I've had the air intake off, changed the oil pressure switch and the rocket cover gasket over the last few days.


I've never had that light come on before.

Any ideas.

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Take the rocker cover off and start the engine up. If oil squirts everywhere you have a dodgy switch. Or put an aftermarket oil pressure gauge in and go with that.


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[jay see]

Now I'm pretty sure that this is wrong and now is the time to fix it.

I have a 10 blade fuse box and a 120amp breaker with 4 awg cable.

You can see that everything is pretty close.

At the most I'll be running 2 fridges, a freezer, the little 12v oven (while the car is driving)and then it's lights and charging points. If I was to assume 10 amp per slot = 100 amp breaker. I know that I'm not at 10 amp for every slot, so will a 70 amp breaker work and what size cable should I be using.https://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/03/54.jpg

While I'm on the topic, sort of..

Is this worth it. It pwm not mppt.
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[Brissieboy]

You need to make sure that a short circuit at the end of the run is sufficient to trip the breaker. With a 12V supply and a 70A breaker that means a total fault circuit resistance (battery + to battery -) is less than 0.17 ohms (Ohms law R = E/I). It is the resistance that drives what size cable you should use, but bigger is usually better where 12V is concerned. The low value fuses will protect individual circuits (assuming similar principles are applied) but that big breaker needs to protect the main power buss. And it should be as close as possible to the battery.

[jay see]

You need to make sure that a short circuit at the end of the run is sufficient to trip the breaker. With a 12V supply and a 70A breaker that means a total fault circuit resistance (battery + to battery -) is less than 0.17 ohms (Ohms law R = E/I). It is the resistance that drives what size cable you should use, but bigger is usually better where 12V is concerned. The low value fuses will protect individual circuits (assuming similar principles are applied) but that big breaker needs to protect the main power buss. And it should be as close as possible to the battery.

Cheers mate.

I do understand what you're saying to a certain extent. I know how it should all work, just don't understand the values. Your equation of Ohms law went flying over my head..

Thanks for your input..

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[jay see]

Okay brainiacs need some help here.

How can I mount the fridge securely. It's going to sit on the gray plate so even if it's securely mounted to that, it's only two bolts at the front to remove the whole thing.

The case only has the four eyelets on each corner and the handles are molded.https://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/04/133.jpghttps://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/04/134.jpghttps://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/04/135.jpg

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[10G]

If the fridge has handles, tie it down with them. You could connect the strap you use to connect to the 2 bolts at the front and someplace at the rear. If you just tie down the front you may find the fridge bounces up and down fron those 2 front bolts.

I wouldn't trust the tie downs on the bag, the bag will just rip I reckon.

[10G]

Now I'm pretty sure that this is wrong and now is the time to fix it.

I have a 10 blade fuse box and a 120amp breaker with 4 awg cable.

You can see that everything is pretty close.

At the most I'll be running 2 fridges, a freezer, the little 12v oven (while the car is driving)and then it's lights and charging points. If I was to assume 10 amp per slot = 100 amp breaker. I know that I'm not at 10 amp for every slot, so will a 70 amp breaker work and what size cable should I be using.https://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/03/54.jpg

While I'm on the topic, sort of..

Is this worth it. It pwm not mppt.
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I'm pretty sure in the past I used a similar setup protecting a similar load and my main cct breaker was only 60 amps.

And as BrissieBoy said, keep all your fuses as close to the battery as possible.

[PeeBee]

Okay brainiacs need some help here.

How can I mount the fridge securely. It's going to sit on the gray plate so even if it's securely mounted to that, it's only two bolts at the front to remove the whole thing.

The case only has the four eyelets on each corner and the handles are molded.https://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/04/133.jpghttps://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/04/134.jpghttps://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/04/135.jpg

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A few of us, led by MudRunnerTD, have utilised old rear seat frames that mount to the existing points in the car, then put the plate you show welded to the frame. This gives you an air gap under the fridge for further storage and opens up the range of mounting concepts. I would use a thimble with a threaded male extension - can get them at Bunnings for a couple of dollars each - I think the M8 units are rated at 230kg each point. Simply drill a hole in the sheet steel and bolt them in, nuts accessible as well, rather than on the floor and rubbing holes in the carpet. You should be able to buy an old crappy seat off gumtree and strip the base and back off it, AB might be able to post up his solution, recently completed. I have platforms made for both sides of the GQ.

[10G]

Here's the stand I use for my Engel. The stand connects to a mount in the floor underneath it and the shelf behind it.

I use straps through the handles which go around the frame of the strand.

87915

87916

[jay see]

If the fridge has handles, tie it down with them. You could connect the strap you use to connect to the 2 bolts at the front and someplace at the rear. If you just tie down the front you may find the fridge bounces up and down fron those 2 front bolts.

I wouldn't trust the tie downs on the bag, the bag will just rip I reckon.The handles are moulded and pretty flat 1st pic.

Thinking of something like 2nd pic screwed into the handle area and then 3rd pic into the plate.

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[jay see]

I'm pretty sure in the past I used a similar setup protecting a similar load and my main cct breaker was only 60 amps.

And as BrissieBoy said, keep all your fuses as close to the battery as possible.I've changed the breaker to 60 amp and 5 amp fuses in the block (charging ports)except for the console fridge 10 amp and radio 10 amp as stated in the original car fuse.

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[jay see]

And as BrissieBoy said, keep all your fuses as close to the battery as possible.

Should I bring the fuses closer to the breaker, it's about 200mm at the moment.https://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/04/141.jpg

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[Brissieboy]

Should I bring the fuses closer to the breaker, it's about 200mm at the moment.

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No. That is good solid cable and not exposed to potential damage so it is OK as is.

[jay see]

No. That is good solid cable and not exposed to potential damage so it is OK as is.Good to hear that I got it right.

Thanks for the reply..

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[10G]

Yep, the thing to look out for is whether the cable between the battery and the fuse is likely to interfere with anything else and cause a short. You could have the two seperated by a mile if you know that nothing is going to cause a short along that mile of cable, or in other words, between the battery and fuse.

[jay see]

You kinda get the idea. The hook in the 2nd pic is screwed in from the top because I wasn't sure how the self tapping screws would go. If I need to I can drill out the holes and nut and bolt it. It's pretty tight with the water tank, but it all fits.https://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/04/146.jpghttps://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/04/147.jpghttps://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/04/148.jpghttps://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/04/149.jpg

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[10G]

Cool tank, what brand is that & capacity?

[jay see]

Cool tank, what brand is that & capacity?https://www.outbackequipment.com.au/poly-footwell-water-tank-40-litre

The cut outs are about unless in the patrol.

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[mudski]

Nice John.
Did you get the oil light issue sorted?

[jay see]

Nice John.
Did you get the oil light issue sorted?Cheers mate..

Yeah, the aftermarket switch wasn't reading right.

I ended up cleaning my old one as I knew it wasn't leaking, it was oil from the leaking rocker gasket that was dripping onto it.

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[jay see]

A bit more progress this weekend.

Brought some insulation and made my own shades. Neeed to take out the fridge and cage to do the L/R side. Bit average on the inside, but they work. Simple velcro around the edges for easy removal. Going to do the same for the rear passenger doors.

Tried out the water tank with a gravity fed hose and tap, I'm going to put a pump in. The design of the tank which allows for a hump separates the water on each side, that's why there's two outlets. Once one side gets down you use the other side. What I'm going to do is run both outlets into a y fitting and then that one will run into the pump.

I did have the sub tank light on the dash come on. I've never had that before. I disconnected the battery for a few hours. Put it lback on and the light disappeared. Do I need to run another earth strap for the sub tank if so, where.https://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/04/157.jpghttps://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/04/158.jpghttps://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/04/159.jpg

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[jay see]

Next is the rear bar.

I was planning on the uneek one, but they are no longer making it for my GU. I can go raslarr to suit the rest of the bar work, but there's a chance that it won't be ready by the trip.

What else would you recommend.

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[mudski]

Contact Milweld in Mansfield. That’s what I have and I love it.


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[10G]

Next is the rear bar.

I was planning on the uneek one, but they are no longer making it for my GU. I can go raslarr to suit the rest of the bar work, but there's a chance that it won't be ready by the trip.

What else would you recommend.

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Star Crew Ind in SE Qld.


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[MB]

A big fan of Mills gear too Mudski Brother, must say though that young blokes instructional video of rear GU quarter chops was humbly well done [emoji106][emoji106]
Young son will go seriously far, cool, calm & collected humble tutorials [emoji736][emoji736]


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Next is the rear bar.

I was planning on the uneek one, but they are no longer making it for my GU. I can go raslarr to suit the rest of the bar work, but there's a chance that it won't be ready by the trip.

What else would you recommend.

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I was disappointed too John Brother that Uneek stopped their manufacturing of our GU rear bars, the ultimate touring rear bars IMHO 🥲
In all honesty, if you’re stressing about our Simpson crossing, please stop, I can uterize fit on the back, extra mogas jerry cans for us all [emoji106][emoji106]


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[MB]

Save your money until time permits [emoji3590][emoji106]


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[10G]

[emoji736]


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Yeh, he's not bad eh MB. I watched his vid to learn how to do my front axle rebuild.

[jay see]

Contact Milweld in Mansfield. That’s what I have and I love it.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkHas anyone got a contract number for them. I've sent them a Facebook message and an email through their website, but would like to have a chat with them first..

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[MB]

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[jay see]

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Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkCheers Mark.

I did see that, but wanted to speak to millweld directly. I'll call tvs and see if they can get me through.

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[mudski]

Has anyone got a contract number for them. I've sent them a Facebook message and an email through their website, but would like to have a chat with them first..

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[jay see]

So I picked up a cargo barrier off marketplace for $50. Man what a mission. In the end I had to remove the backing of the fridge cage and work out how to mount the bottom of the barrier. Then make up brackets to mount the top and reposition the electrical components as they now sits higher. A fair bit of mucking around because of the draws, but it's now securely in place. I've had to spin the freezer 90 degrees as it didn't fit.

Managed to also fit a water pump and plumb it to the tank, because of the design it has 2 outlets one on each side. I plumb both sides to one and then to the pump. Didn't quite work, am I asking too much from the pump?https://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/05/3.jpghttps://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/05/4.jpghttps://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/05/5.jpghttps://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/05/6.jpg

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[PeeBee]

The diaphragm pump has a poor suction capability, which is why they only rate the discharge head. You will do better lowering the inlet of the pump to the same level as the tank outlet, then it should work fine.

[jay see]

The diaphragm pump has a poor suction capability, which is why they only rate the discharge head. You will do better lowering the inlet of the pump to the same level as the tank outlet, then it should work fine.Thanks.

I did try it at a lower level, but probably not long enough to get the air out. It was late and I was getting impatient I will give it another go on the weekend. The bloody shopping trolley is playing funny buggers, just out of the blue it gets irregular revs then stops, starts up fine and keeps going. Did it twice this morning within 15k out of a 45k trip. Ahhh,[emoji2959]

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[Cremulator]

I'm not sure how you tell, or if there is an inlet and outlet side to the pump, but in the 'features' screen grab you posted it states that it has a "Special valve for liquid input and output".
Maybe the hoses are hooked up the wrong way round and the valve is stopping the full flow?

[jay see]

I'm not sure how you tell, or if there is an inlet and outlet side to the pump, but in the 'features' screen grab you posted it states that it has a "Special valve for liquid input and output".
Maybe the hoses are hooked up the wrong way round and the valve is stopping the full flow?I did try it both ways (briefly)and it seems to be the way I left it was the correct way, but I will definitely be checking everything again. I'm sure that with me rushing I've missed something simple..

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[Plasnart]

I don’t mean to tell you how to suck eggs mate, but sometimes simple things are the cause. Are all hose joints air tight? There are no hose clamps at the pump connections in your photo.

[jay see]

I don’t mean to tell you how to suck eggs mate, but sometimes simple things are the cause. Are all hose joints air tight? There are no hose clamps at the pump connections in your photo.All good mate.
I ran out of clamps and I wasn't go back to Bunnings for the 3rd time. I'll pick up a couple more on the way home during the week. They were a snug fit, but yeah they do need clamps..

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[PeeBee]

I'm not sure how you tell, or if there is an inlet and outlet side to the pump, but in the 'features' screen grab you posted it states that it has a "Special valve for liquid input and output".
Maybe the hoses are hooked up the wrong way round and the valve is stopping the full flow?

I think this refers to the diaphragm valve inside the pump so it sucks in liquid and the valve closes then the diaphragm discharges against the closed seal, pretty normal, there will be a flow arrow on the pump and if connected with correct polarity it should work but its only self priming with a positive head on the inlet side i suspect. To improve operation a check valve could be mounted in the supply line from the tank to the pump so water does not siphon back away from the pump, pretty cheap way to resolve that, as jaysee said its going to be a simple fix.water

[jay see]

Had a chance to have a good look today..

So, the stupid design of this tank means that there are 2 outlets one at each end. What I tried to do is connect the 2 into one.

While full it works good, 20lts later once the water is in its 2 separate compartments it coughs and splatters.

Now I think I will run 2 separate lines, one at each end.

While tank is full has good pressure
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[Cremulator]

What about installing a 3-way control valve to switch between the feed from each end?

[jay see]

What about installing a 3-way control valve to switch between the feed from each end?I think I'm going to call the mob that I got it from and have a chat with them first.

A 3 way valve would probably work and that might be the way to go..

Thanks for the input..

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[PeeBee]

What are you expecting or wanting to get from the tank and pump? Are you looking to fill a pot or use it for a quick shower or wash mud from a clogged radiator? I think this is the starting point in all honesty. Linking the hoses or running them singly will get you the same result as the inlet head is the same. You just achieve twice the volume to draw down. If you want a higher pressure then consider a small pressurised accumulator like they use in a boat water system. Like this one. I was going to use it on my radiator spray bar to even out the diaphragme pump pulse, but in the end it wasn't necessary.https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/186381980593?itmmeta=01HXKVE8543XYYH17TZWPPVVKJ&hash=item2b653b53b1:g:xjgAAOSwx7RivSVT&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA8BUPrOqLV3ZjixFxqokfKNx2SRr6a IixiuaPtwDalQajX%2Fti6nekTQ%2B7GXV4txGIg6gzZDlRhFj SaNNYKBjw9sD

[jay see]

What are you expecting or wanting to get from the tank and pump? Are you looking to fill a pot or use it for a quick shower or wash mud from a clogged radiator? I think this is the starting point in all honesty. Linking the hoses or running them singly will get you the same result as the inlet head is the same. You just achieve twice the volume to draw down. If you want a higher pressure then consider a small pressurised accumulator like they use in a boat water system. Like this one. I was going to use it on my radiator spray bar to even out the diaphragme pump pulse, but in the end it wasn't necessary.https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/186381980593?itmmeta=01HXKVE8543XYYH17TZWPPVVKJ&hash=item2b653b53b1:g:xjgAAOSwx7RivSVT&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA8BUPrOqLV3ZjixFxqokfKNx2SRr6a IixiuaPtwDalQajX%2Fti6nekTQ%2B7GXV4txGIg6gzZDlRhFj SaNNYKBjw9sDI'm happy with the flow and how it works, but I'm only getting the top part of the water out approx 20 lts with good flow, then it looks like it's sucking air.

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I'm happy with the flow and how it works, but I'm only getting the top part of the water out approx 20 lts with good flow, then it looks like it's sucking air.

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If the water is above the outlet level and the hose clamps are tight it can only be a hole in the hose or a hole in the diaphragm of the pump or a torn diaphragm I think? PIA issues, i feel for you.

[10G]

Had a chance to have a good look today..

So, the stupid design of this tank means that there are 2 outlets one at each end. What I tried to do is connect the 2 into one.

While full it works good, 20lts later once the water is in its 2 separate compartments it coughs and splatters.

Now I think I will run 2 separate lines, one at each end.

While tank is full has good pressure
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I was going to suggest you simply flip it upside down, but then I saw the filler.

I'd just leave some wiggle room and when the outlet side got low, I'd just lift it up and drain from the full side to the empty side, that's what I did with my bladder.

Or just top the thing up, never a bad idea to circulate your water.

KISS.

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looking good mate hopefully have my 61 on the road this summer :)

[MB]

looking good mate hopefully have my 61 on the road this summer :)

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[jay see]

Haven't had much time this weekend, but squeezed in enough to finally get this water tank sorted. Once it was all level it pumps out about 35 litres and with a couple wedges in the right places I should be able to get the last few litres if needed.

https://youtube.com/shorts/GWnyiKIAmIo?si=Jor2lPKRcuyXwNRt

Now onto the next thing..

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[Cuppa]

Had a chance to have a good look today..

So, the stupid design of this tank means that there are 2 outlets one at each end. What I tried to do is connect the 2 into one.

While full it works good, 20lts later once the water is in its 2 separate compartments it coughs and splatters.

Now I think I will run 2 separate lines, one at each end.

While tank is full has good pressure



Take some spare plastic fittings with you.

[PeeBee]

Haven't had much time this weekend, but squeezed in enough to finally get this water tank sorted. Once it was all level it pumps out about 35 litres and with a couple wedges in the right places I should be able to get the last few litres if needed.

https://youtube.com/shorts/GWnyiKIAmIo?si=Jor2lPKRcuyXwNRt

Now onto the next thing..

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Good outcome, however I think you would achieve the same flow just letting the water run out the hose. Anyway its installed and working

[MB]

Let us just say, gravity wins [emoji120][emoji120] Apologies Brother but there is no need for fandagle[emoji182] water [emoji22][emoji3590][emoji3590]


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[PeeBee]

John, I assume the tank has a breather in the cap? If not it will suck in and stock flowing with either a pump or gravity. A small hole , say 3- 5mm dia would be fine, you could screw in a pneumatic airline fitting and add a small length of airline to raise the air point and also stop any nuisance splashing out of the take breather.

[jay see]

Good outcome, however I think you would achieve the same flow just letting the water run out the hose. Anyway its installed and workingIf the tank was sitting higher I wouldn't have gone with the pump, but we're only getting older so the convenience is nice to have.
John, I assume the tank has a breather in the cap? If not it will suck in and stock flowing with either a pump or gravity. A small hole , say 3- 5mm dia would be fine, you could screw in a pneumatic airline fitting and add a small length of airline to raise the air point and also stop any nuisance splashing out of the take breather.Yeah it did, but it's pretty shit. I'm going to replace it with a diff breather, something like the last pic.. https://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/05/33.jpghttps://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/05/34.jpghttps://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/05/35.jpg

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PeeBee Philstar, what would happen if jaysee Brother installed a tyre valve in the cap instead of a breather and linked up his onboard air compressor to force water out of its lowest point gravity tube? Could the air pressure Archimedes style push every last droplet uphill to a comfortable collection height? [emoji120]


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PeeBee Philstar, what would happen if jaysee Brother installed a tyre valve in the cap instead of a breather and linked up his onboard air compressor to force water out of its lowest point gravity tube? Could the air pressure Archimedes style push every last droplet uphill to a comfortable collection height? [emoji120]


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Yep, but the increase in pressure only needs to be a poofteenth to generate massive velocity out the nozzle ( 5PSI across the total area of the tank is a massive discharge force.). What I dont like about that idea , is the water jet is going to be very fast so more splashy and likely to waste more than say a steady stream via gravity, plus you need to switch it off pretty quickly as the pressure will build fast and get progressively worse - FAST.. I guess if you want to wash a car or similar the added velocity which will equate to volume is fine but for a billie fill or a quick wash of the hands , slow and steady would be my pick. I think I have mentioned before that Jenny and I burned thru 30L in two days at dalhousie because it was 28 deg and the springs well above that, and we didn't waste any, decanted it from a jerry with a hand pump. The electric pumps are a quick way to lose track of your fixed water storage in my view, but you know, its connected now, and there for a reason and choice, it works, get used to it I guess and see how it goes - easy to convert to gravity if it becomes a problem.

Regards the discharge height, well my water tank hoses hand out the door and terminate about 8" off the ground so pot filling and hand washing is not too bad. - Just a comparison but maybe work considering also as pots are on stable ground as well instead of trying to do the octopus 5 arm shuffle.

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Apologies jaysee [emoji51]
Philstar, what if the air compressor (onboard always and needed offroad anyway) was permanently connected to a water tank with a basic pressure small lightweight valve/regulator? Of course the hose sump/outlet would need a severely reduced end on it with a valve/tap for water trickle if needed careful saving or high pressure squirting potential? [emoji848]


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[jay see]

No need to worry about it guys, no on board compressor..

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Apologies jaysee [emoji51]
Philstar, what if the air compressor (onboard always and needed offroad anyway) was permanently connected to a water tank with a basic pressure small lightweight valve/regulator? Of course the hose sump/outlet would need a severely reduced end on it with a valve/tap for water trickle if needed careful saving or high pressure squirting potential? [emoji848]


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I would run a pressure regulator limited to no more than 5psi. Anything more and the tank could split. Running pressure in a plastic tank is asking for problems.

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[emoji51] Apologies John Mate, I take full blame for bastardising temporarily your Build Thread Brother [emoji22]
Pictorially, in sequence, I guess this is what I was trying to suggest to Philstar:

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The first three (3) photo examples are similar to what we use at work to connect to mains water garden hoses to vary between taking a trickle sip of water when thirsty in the yard to also carefully blasting truck radiators or full tilt mud blasting pinpoint out of their tipper corners at a long distance etc…[emoji106][emoji106]


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[PeeBee]

Yep, I get it, but NO, leave it as it is if you want the pump and pressure would be my recommendation.

[jay see]

Well I've done it again.

Electronics and me have a long battle before we're both on the same page. This time I brought a kickass battery monitor

https://kickassproducts.com.au/products/kickass-500a-battery-monitoring-shunt-with-remote-display?variant=47678444667159&currency=AUD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&tw_source=google&tw_adid=&tw_campaign=17074212126&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw97SzBhDaARIsAFHXUWB7wo5gdksA46OEaUcY BsokhzqZlPX4icG8GBqIjdsvCG55t3FKIrwaAudQEALw_wcB

It seems to look like I'm only going getting volts. I had a fridge and the freezer both on and compressor running on both when I took the picture and still showed just about no amps.

Negative on the battery to -B on shunt and -P on shunt to ground (metal body)

Have I got the -P side of the shunt correct?https://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2024/06/52.jpg

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[jay see]

Well it looks like my rear bar isn't going to make the big trip. From a completion date of the 16th to the 18th to the latest today, it's still not finished. I went out and spent some.

Main reason was to carry 2 Jerry cans, that's not going to happen so I went out today and updated my rack to carry the cans, a spare tyre, maxtraxs and what whatever else I what to throw up there.

While out today picking up things all over the place I also got a bushwakka 270 awning.

With eofy savings it was a good time to upgrade.



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[BigRAWesty]

Geeze that's going to be one very loaded roof!! Shame the bar isn't done though!!

[jay see]

Geeze that's going to be one very loaded roof!! Shame the bar isn't done though!!The cans will be empty most of the time, will fill them when needed and empty into the tank as soon as I can. The tyre, well got nowhere else to put it.

Yeah, pissed about the bar. Millweld have no communications, it's like when it's finished you will get it..

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[jay see]

Gvm upgrade...

Got priced at $5450, ouch...

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[Cremulator]

Gvm upgrade...

Got priced at $5450, ouch...

Sent from my Pixel 7 using TapatalkJeez. The only thing that won't be a problem with weight is the wallet!! [emoji44]

[jay see]

Guys I need some help in naming this part.

It sits between the maf sensor and the intake pipe, as you can see it's f@#ked.

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