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    g'day,

    I have also been told, but haven't checked for myself, that in Qld if there are third row seats, there also have to be opening/sliding windows

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    It is the same rule in all States and Territories and it lay terms it is basically this...

    If the seats can be removed and refitted without using tools IE the seats are fitted with manual latches of some description and the seating of the vehicle is designed to be removed or adjusted as part of the lay out IE 60/40 rear seats allow the vehicle to seat 3, 4 or 5 then no compliance amendment is required.

    If you 'unbolt' and remove the seats then "legally" you need to change the compliance plate. The reasoning (I'm not saying its right or wrong, I'm just saying) is that the seating may potentially be reinstalled incorrectly IE wrong bolts, wrong seat belt anchors etc etc.

    Some states are more anal about it than others and you have a better chance of the copper/inspector waving you on if they do notice that you have pulled the third row out temporarily by leaving the seat belts in place. Touch them and they get a lot more interested as it obviously isn't temporary and you have dicked with the passenger safety.

    Sliding Windows - not a requirement. Look at the GU's for example 3 rows but fixed windows

    Finally, before anyone gets too fired up I have removed the 3rd row from my GU as it has drawers and a crash barrier and I removed the 3rd row and often used to pull the 2nd row out of my GQ for long trips (just me and the missus) so I am prepared to wear it if some Mermaid gets obtuse on the side of the road some day.
    Dolphins are so smart that within a few weeks of captivity, they can train people to stand on the very edge of the pool and throw them fish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the evil twin View Post
    It is the same rule in all States and Territories and it lay terms it is basically this...

    If the seats can be removed and refitted without using tools IE the seats are fitted with manual latches of some description and the seating of the vehicle is designed to be removed or adjusted as part of the lay out IE 60/40 rear seats allow the vehicle to seat 3, 4 or 5 then no compliance amendment is required.

    If you 'unbolt' and remove the seats then "legally" you need to change the compliance plate. The reasoning (I'm not saying its right or wrong, I'm just saying) is that the seating may potentially be reinstalled incorrectly IE wrong bolts, wrong seat belt anchors etc etc.

    Some states are more anal about it than others and you have a better chance of the copper/inspector waving you on if they do notice that you have pulled the third row out temporarily by leaving the seat belts in place. Touch them and they get a lot more interested as it obviously isn't temporary and you have dicked with the passenger safety.

    Sliding Windows - not a requirement. Look at the GU's for example 3 rows but fixed windows

    Finally, before anyone gets too fired up I have removed the 3rd row from my GU as it has drawers and a crash barrier and I removed the 3rd row and often used to pull the 2nd row out of my GQ for long trips (just me and the missus) so I am prepared to wear it if some Mermaid gets obtuse on the side of the road some day.
    used to take the back seats out of our old MQ all the time - in blissful ignorance :-) Third row seats are out of the GQ, but still have the slidy windows in - with new rubbers, and use them from time to time for ventilation and also to get things in and out of the back :-). The third row seats are under the house if I ever need to do bulk weekend sport runs with the kid, unlike when I was in high school and we used to rattle round the back of a teacher's bongo van, or the old man's tojo :-) then again it was the '70s :-)

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    I have removed dickie seat, installed "permanent" rear drawers and removed both seat belts. I would be fairly peed off and ready to argue if someone slapped a fine on me thats for sure....lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by the evil twin View Post
    It is the same rule in all States and Territories and it lay terms it is basically this...

    If the seats can be removed and refitted without using tools IE the seats are fitted with manual latches of some description and the seating of the vehicle is designed to be removed or adjusted as part of the lay out IE 60/40 rear seats allow the vehicle to seat 3, 4 or 5 then no compliance amendment is required.

    If you 'unbolt' and remove the seats then "legally" you need to change the compliance plate. The reasoning (I'm not saying its right or wrong, I'm just saying) is that the seating may potentially be reinstalled incorrectly IE wrong bolts, wrong seat belt anchors etc etc.

    Some states are more anal about it than others and you have a better chance of the copper/inspector waving you on if they do notice that you have pulled the third row out temporarily by leaving the seat belts in place. Touch them and they get a lot more interested as it obviously isn't temporary and you have dicked with the passenger safety.

    Sliding Windows - not a requirement. Look at the GU's for example 3 rows but fixed windows

    Finally, before anyone gets too fired up I have removed the 3rd row from my GU as it has drawers and a crash barrier and I removed the 3rd row and often used to pull the 2nd row out of my GQ for long trips (just me and the missus) so I am prepared to wear it if some Mermaid gets obtuse on the side of the road some day.
    If you read my Post earlier I have shown an extract from Vic Road which shows that we do not have to have compliance plates for removing seats.
    They seem to be more lenient than other States

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    Quote Originally Posted by the evil twin View Post
    some Mermaid gets obtuse on the side of the road some day.
    whenever I go out to visit their office, I have to be really careful not to mention the "M" word
    Jon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    If you read my Post earlier I have shown an extract from Vic Road which shows that we do not have to have compliance plates for removing seats.
    They seem to be more lenient than other States
    My apologies I stand corrected.

    I thought Vic had caught up on that requirement as well. Looks like you wood ducks are safe for a while longer... don't drive over the border tho...
    Dolphins are so smart that within a few weeks of captivity, they can train people to stand on the very edge of the pool and throw them fish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFlyingBadger View Post
    whenever I go out to visit their office, I have to be really careful not to mention the "M" word
    Yeah... they are touchy buggers eh...
    Dolphins are so smart that within a few weeks of captivity, they can train people to stand on the very edge of the pool and throw them fish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the evil twin View Post
    My apologies I stand corrected.

    I thought Vic had caught up on that requirement as well. Looks like you wood ducks are safe for a while longer... don't drive over the border tho...
    Knowing VicRoads it wont take them long to catch up as they are missing out on Revenue now. It would be a interesting exercise to find out how many Patrols are illegal now (Aust Wide).
    You hardly ever see a Patrol with the Back Dickie seats in them when 4WD

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob View Post
    knowing vicroads it wont take them long to catch up as they are missing out on revenue now. It would be a interesting exercise to find out how many patrols are illegal now (aust wide).
    You hardly ever see a patrol with the back dickie seats in them when 4wd
    thats a very good point bob,but then could be beat with a class action ,aus wide

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