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    Wire terminal connectors

    Apart from wire size is there a rule of thumb in what connector is used to what application, I.e. bullet, folk, round, etc?
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    Bullets are better than spade connectors.

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    The only rule I have, is don't buy cheap ones that lose their shape and make a high resistant joint.
    My advice is: not to follow my advice.

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    Heat shrink and resin core solder, every join is a weak point.
    Might be better, if possible to use a terminal block, and step
    down your wire size. If it needs to be removed for maintenance
    a bullet connector would give you more surface area of contact.

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    Heat absorption and tar center bind each join is a powerless focus.
    May be better, if conceivable to utilize a terminal square, and step down your wire size.
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    I use solder and water proof heat shrink where possible. When that's not possible I only use amp plugs and 9006 connectors. There waterproof, positively locked so they cant come loose, better built, can handle high amps and look like factory.

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    Conventional wisdom among DIY motorhome builders (bearing in mind these are vehicles intended for long term & regular use) is that soldered joints are best avoided as over time they can crack from vibration creating faults which can be extremely difficult to detect. Recommended are properly crimped connections (ie. made with a quality ratchet or hydraulic crimper). Finished with heat shrink.

    If soldering fine multi strand wires care must be taken not to heat too much as the solder will tend to wick up inside the cable creating a longer rigid section even more prone to fracture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuppa View Post
    Conventional wisdom among DIY motorhome builders (bearing in mind these are vehicles intended for long term & regular use) is that soldered joints are best avoided as over time they can crack from vibration creating faults which can be extremely difficult to detect. Recommended are properly crimped connections (ie. made with a quality ratchet or hydraulic crimper). Finished with heat shrink.

    If soldering fine multi strand wires care must be taken not to heat too much as the solder will tend to wick up inside the cable creating a longer rigid section even more prone to fracture.

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    I actually build horse Floats for a living which some have living quarters in them, TVs, DVD players, Microwaves, kitchen sinks etc and everything is soldered except the 240 Volt. All the high end caravans and horse floats are all soldered and the wiring is secured so it cant move meaning it wont crack over time. I've been doing the wiring personally for over 3 years and I never had an issue.

    The issues I've had and this scares me is other builders (not DIY either) are using scotch locks on the electric brakes on trailers that are rated up to 5.5 tonnes. This is common practice and not just Chinese trailer, floats, vans etc some are made here.

    You are right though solder can and does crack if it's not done properly. Your wiring should never be left in a place where it's not properly attached and all joins are heat shrinked so it cant move then it cant and wont crack even after 20 years. It's very important that it's not left floating around or it will crack but even if you use connectors if the wiring is left floating the wires will pull out of the terminals from constant movement giving you the same problem as not securing soldered joins.

    All my wiring is run in conduit and then run in the metal frame work so it cant move. There are no joins in the tube except the end of clearance lights etc which are easily pulled back out of the tube and easily repaired if one gets ripped off by a tree.

    So with a car you can solder but you just need to heat shrink it conduit it if possible and attach it to your factory loom and it wont move or crap providing you know how to solder in the first place. lol

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    When I had my towbar fitted by a reputable shop I was happy until I started having problems with my camper.
    Checked under the back of my Patrol and found Scotch locs piggy backed for trailer pin wiring, Spat the dummy big time.
    This is a connection waiting to fail. They offered to solder,I declined as my son is Auto lec. Now all wiring on trailer is one piece[soldered]
    Plus never had any trouble with it since being soldered. Also after stripping wire to suit plug I soldered the ends so the screw
    wouldn't break fine wires off somewhere down the track. Also used heat shrink and cable ties everywhere I could.
    50 amp Anderson plugs I crimp and solder.
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