Toyota engine in a patrol. - easy?

At times reading through the forums I see pages of grenade related headaches. This gets me thinking about different vehicles and what parts are useful and desirable for the patrol. Swapping out a grenade engine for a relatively reliable Toyota one is one of those things I wondered about. Not fixated on any particular engine.

So how hard is it to have a Toyota engine in a patrol chassis?

I have heard of Toyota owners putting patrol running gear in for strength.

What is harder - running gear swap or engine swap?

Why bother TD42 engines are bullet proof and you can pick them up reasonably priced. But if you spend some money. Not much. And look after the 3 l all is good depends what your after. Hard core nuts will put the toughest gear in their vehicles. Daily drivers don't needs them. Your choice and your wallet

I think the hardest part about putting Toyota parts in a Nissan is placing your testicles In the jar On the shelf and buying a skirt...
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Toyota drivers put Nissan parts in as their already in that situation and trying their hardest to get their testies back and In footy shorts..
In short Its less painful for them..

But again, why would you.
Td42 is a time and tested proven motor, simple but super reliable, needs no electrical work to run and makes as much power as you like.

The only engine you'd consider is the V8 and I think the wiring harness would be a nightmare..

Why not just take the floor pan out and do it Flinstone style ;):D

The toyota 4.2 1hd-ft is a far superior engine to the td! I see where your coming from.

P4Trol,

It has been done before as there is one that I have seen on one of the forums.....cost over $25K.....owner very happy

Not sure if I would go down that route though, as I am confident in my CRD

Mic

Fair enough.

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Originally Posted by Dales300exc

The toyota 4.2 1hd-ft is a far superior engine to the td! I see where your coming from.

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How?? Every Toyota 4.2 I've seen / driven in the early models are pos?

Read: 1hd-ft. 24 valve. Ohc. Direct injection. In the last of the 80s and computer controlled in the 100s.

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Originally Posted by Dales300exc

Read: 1hd-ft. 24 valve. Ohc. Direct injection. In the last of the 80s and computer controlled in the 100s.

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Diesel or petty?? Sure the petrols are good, so are the tb42's. Our TB45 has all that wiz bang fancy valve and wiring stuff..
But the diesels, TD42 all the way.
The less electronics the better..

There is a thread on this conversion somewhere , he called it a NISOTA
4.2 1hd-ft into a GU, Some dude also grafted that motor into a defender
with GU diffs

Here is the link for the one conversion that I know of....

http://www.exploroz.com/Forum/Topic/....aspx%3fpn%3d2

Mic

Westys - 1hd-ft is in 80s. Mechanical. 4 valves per cylinder. Direct injection diesel. 1hd-fte is in 100s. Same engine with more standard power but computer controlled.

Dont get me wrong, love the nissans, but toyota have always been ahead in their engines.

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Originally Posted by Dales300exc

Westys - 1hd-ft is in 80s. Mechanical. 4 valves per cylinder. Direct injection diesel. 1hd-fte is in 100s. Same engine with more standard power but computer controlled.

Dont get me wrong, love the nissans, but toyota have always been ahead in their engines.

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The 80's had a 1hdt to start with which was basically a turboed 1hz (a 1hz is no superior to a td42.) Then they went to the ft which had larger diameter crank (mains etc) to fix the bearing issue of the turboed 1hz (1hdt). Then the electronically controlled (timing only same as the later 4.2tdi) 1hd-fte, which is a nice motor but I have not seen anyone push one past the 200rwkw mark, it could be possible but I haven't seen it documented.

The td42 on the other hand can achieve 240rwkw (around 340hp) and has been done a few times and documented. I even know a bloke running 220rwkw daily out of one.

Yes Toyota do nice motors, they always have, but Toyota builds things like that "nice". They are great when in standard trim and will last as long as any Nissan engine, it's when the modifications start that Nissan start to come into their own. Nissan might not be as nice or as good power output wise standard but they are rugged, tough and reliable. Horses for courses though. I haven't seen any diesel ( not to say there isn't) Toyota powered vehicles competing in winch challenges/ 4wd events, (most are Nissan or v8 powered).

As for the conversion it's been done, but would be a headache IMO.

Yeh fair call. I was talking late 80s and ifs 100s.

I dream of the day nissan put another big diesel in their patrols.

Still building ma td anyway.

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Originally Posted by Dales300exc

Yeh fair call. I was talking late 80s and ifs 100s.

I dream of the day nissan put another big diesel in their patrols.

Still building ma td anyway.

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Yes it would be a pearler if the cummins isv5.0 v8 turbo diesel that's going into the Nissan Titan in the states made its way into a patrol :).

Maybe you should import them newby and do engine conversions for a living. Lol

Dont ever consider the new (reasonably) V8 Toymota diesel. There is a couple of tech's at the Toymota dealer up here working full time replacing/rebuilding them. They are making the old Nissan 3L motors look really good.

I asked this on behalf of my mate who wanted to put a V8 D4D out of a 76 series. Even though he had a perfect engine, he's done his homework and the cost / engineering costs far outweigh the cost of a fully re-built and fitted 4.2TD turbo. He's now happy as ever. The money he got for the engine covered majority of the cost for the 4.2 .
Mind you this was in relation to a D4D V8. Some other yota engines might be easier to slot in.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...D-V8-into-a-GU

Wasn't there a guy that fitted a 1hd-fte into his Patrol , I recall it was called project TONI

Why toyota at all?

My opinion mitsubishi 4m40 much better than 1KZ.

1. its already with intercooler
2. have you ever saw 4m40 with crack in the head of cylinders? For rd28t and 1kz its usual.
3. 4m40 has a chain gear for cam shaft, rd28 and 1kz has a belt.

My brother's Pajero running much faster against my Safari and his bloody mitsu (5 doors) not heating in mountains at all.

Mistral's TD27 is also really strong engine, but it soooooo slowly.