Ironman Bullbar on a GQ

Hi,

I recently had my alloy bullbar replaced with an ironman protector (BBT010) bullbar.
After i had the bar installed the factory/aftermarket recovery points on the chassis are covered by the bottom of the bullbar and protector plate. The bar it self does not have recovery attachment points.

I have contacted Ironman to discusses and see if they had a solution. There response was they never head of any other issues like mine and they don't design their bars to attach recovery points, Just winches.


Has anyone had similar issues with Ironman bars and found a solution ?


Thanks

Matt

any chance you can throw up some photos so we can see how its mounted

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Originally Posted by Clunk

any chance you can throw up some photos so we can see how its mounted

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X2 with photos.
Pretty crappy response from Ironman if that is what they said. Perhaps they recommend towball recoveries too....

Interested to see pics of inside /outside mounting points,
I'm sure there is a solution

I've got a Ironman front bar on my GU. It also dose not have recovery points. I've fitted 2 of threedogs ones

Hey mate, I would never do any recoveries by using a bull bar, get yourself some rated recovery points

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Originally Posted by Doggy

Hey mate, I would never do any recoveries by using a bull bar, get yourself some rated recovery points

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X2 get some recovery points the patrol has holes on the chassis ready to go

Should have the OE hook still there on the drivers side or even if removed the 3 captive nuts should be there.
cant remember seeing any bar fitted on a GQ using those bolt holes

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Originally Posted by threedogs

Should have the OE hook still there on the drivers side or even if removed the 3 captive nuts should be there.
cant remember seeing any bar fitted on a GQ using those bolt holes

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Mine fits directly to those holes but still able to fit the plates there aswell, just need longer bolts........ Which I still don't have on the drivers side.

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Hi,

Thanks for the reply's. i am not trying to recover my 4wd from a bullbar recovery point, the issue i face is that the Bull bar covers the chassis mount recovery points.


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You can just see the Tow/Recovery hitch through the high lift jack point on the bar.

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I can remove the stone plate, though if i use the recovery point with the strap under the bullbar, it will jerk the bar upwards every time i use it as a recovery point.

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I am aware that this is a TOW point, i have not installed the rated recovery point yet.


Thanks
Matt

Ok so the small rectangular hole in the front of the bar, I guess is there to try and thread a strap through then to hook onto the tow point....... Hmmmmmmmm not the best thought out bar design for sure IMO, it even hangs way to low on the chassis rail

Yes, I'd be considering drilling a couple of holes in line with the chassis for big-ass m24 eyes and use a bridle to attach the strap.
Depending on how thick the steel the bar is manufactured from of course.....

Yes, i had thought of using m24 eyes, i would need to use some thick steel plate washers to spread the load, the bar is not made from the thickest steel.
my other thought was to get some 10/12MM plate, cut a slot in the font of the bar and have them protruding out.

Similar to this thread on http://www.4wdaction.com/forum/viewt...p?f=7&t=111766
Sourced from 4WD Action website.

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Originally Posted by Clunk

Ok so the small rectangular hole in the front of the bar, I guess is there to try and thread a strap through then to hook onto the tow point....... Hmmmmmmmm not the best thought out bar design for sure IMO, it even hangs way to low on the chassis rail

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Hey Clunk,

That rectangular hole is actually a high lift jack point.

As for recovery points, from memory, rated recovery points can be fitted under the chassis as there is provisions there.

It's never recommended to snatch off a bullbar as their mounts aren't designed to have those sort of forces put through them (only snatch off chassis mounted rated recovery points).

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Originally Posted by Ironman 4x4

Hey Clunk,

That rectangular hole is actually a high lift jack point.

As for recovery points, from memory, rated recovery points can be fitted under the chassis as there is provisions there.

It's never recommended to snatch off a bullbar as their mounts aren't designed to have those sort of forces put through them (only snatch off chassis mounted rated recovery points).

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Thanks for the info regarding the rectangular hole. I have not and would never use a bull bar to perform a recovery.
Recovery points on a GQ are found on the insides of the chassis rail. On the drivers side is where the factory hook is mounted (attached by 3 bolts) and this is usually replaced by an aftermarket recovery point. A recovery point can also be placed on the passenger side rail as shown in the photo I posted previously. Irrespective of which is used whether it be hook or plate, it looks like the splash guard could cause some damage to a strap....... But that's my opinion only.

Hey,

Thanks for the reply's, with the Ironman bull bar there is no way to have the after market recovery points accessible from under the bull bar.
I have added a rated recovery point to the chassis and having to use the high lift jack point to feed the strap through. with the ironman recovery straps you have thick protective sleeves on the strap at the exact location of the high lift jack holes.
Feeding the winch hook though this hole to attach to the recovery point is also fun.

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Originally Posted by Matt_94GQ

Hey,

Thanks for the reply's, with the Ironman bull bar there is no way to have the after market recovery points accessible from under the bull bar.
I have added a rated recovery point to the chassis and having to use the high lift jack point to feed the strap through. with the ironman recovery straps you have thick protective sleeves on the strap at the exact location of the high lift jack holes.
Feeding the winch hook though this hole to attach to the recovery point is also fun.

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wow.. if thats the best idea they could come up with thats pretty poor..
but it seems ironman above deemed the hole not to be used for that, but no resolution to the situation lol