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26th July 2013, 07:07 PM
sporter

lift kits

my 2002 gu 3lt turbo is in desperate need of new springs an shockies , I hav spoken to several different places regarding what type of 2inch lift kit is best suited to my vehickle an my style of driving,
now i thought these suspention guys are ment to know what they are talking about,,,,, i am so confused,, one says only use foam shocks , another says only use gas, another says use a combination of both an one even said its illegal to put a 2inch lift kit on my vehickle cause of my 15inch 33 tyres but was happy to sell them to me just not fit them..funny fella.
I do travel a fair way to an from work on tar seal but also spend alot time on bush tracks and lots of beach sand dune time , so that about sums wht i use my 4x4 for .. help me out please people, i dont mind spending reosonable money just dont know what to spend it on .
cheers
26th July 2013, 07:19 PM
threedogs

2" lift is legal in all states, try elsewhere, I'm happy with my 2"EFS set up,
would choose different set up if doing more billy goat driving, but ATM my rig is set
up as a tourer
Mine is as soft as I can go with accessories fitted
26th July 2013, 07:44 PM
MudRunnerTD

Old Man Emu Nitro Charged Gas Shocks and OME springs in a 2" lift are Aussie made and the top of the pile. By comparison a foam shocks junk. ;)
26th July 2013, 08:04 PM
NissanGQ4.2

Quote:

Originally Posted by threedogs

2" lift is legal in all states, try elsewhere, I'm happy with my 2"EFS set up,
would choose different set up if doing more billy goat driving, but ATM my rig is set
up as a tourer
Mine is as soft as I can go with accessories fitted

Correct me if I'm wrong but running 33's as stated then putting a 2 inch lift would be putting him over the combined total legal lift
26th July 2013, 08:06 PM
Clunk

Quote:

Originally Posted by NissanGQ4.2

Correct me if I'm wrong but running 33's as stated then putting a 2 inch lift would be putting him over the combined total legal lift

That was my understanding of previous posts also............ But then again, who of us aren't running that set up, or more for that matter????!!!!! ;)

My folks went to the Google Play Store and all they got me was this lousy Motorculture App!!!!!!!
26th July 2013, 08:09 PM
Drewboyaus

Quote:

Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD

Old Man Emu Nitro Charged Gas Shocks and OME springs in a 2" lift are Aussie made and the top of the pile. By comparison a foam shocks junk. ;)

X2. Old Man Emu for sure mate.

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26th July 2013, 08:10 PM
YNOT

Quote:

Originally Posted by NissanGQ4.2

Correct me if I'm wrong but running 33's as stated then putting a 2 inch lift would be putting him over the combined total legal lift

Technically you are correct but you would have to be extremely unlucky to be booked for a 2" lift and 33's on a Patrol.
26th July 2013, 08:12 PM
Drewboyaus

Quote:

Originally Posted by NissanGQ4.2

Correct me if I'm wrong but running 33's as stated then putting a 2 inch lift would be putting him over the combined total legal lift

Isn't it now within the new national guidelines now that you can run 33's and a 50mm lift without engineering?

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26th July 2013, 08:13 PM
Punderhead

On qld you can run a 2" lift and 33"s on a patrol legally. Also I believe in nsw. Not sure about the other states.

Cheers
26th July 2013, 08:14 PM
AB

Quote:

Originally Posted by Punderhead

On qld you can run a 2" lift and 33"s on a patrol legally. Also I believe in nsw. Not sure about the other states.

Cheers

Same as vic too mate.

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26th July 2013, 08:16 PM
BigRAWesty

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drewboyaus

Isn't it now within the new national guidelines now that you can run 33's and a 50mm lift without engineering?

Tip tip tip......tap tap tap....

The national thing was a huge flop and went nowhere...
SA is 50mm max, and 7mm tyre.. Yep, you read that right...

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories
26th July 2013, 08:54 PM
Woodsta1704

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I went with Tough Dog Foam cell shocks and the 200kg front and rear springs. Check out the link below for WA if that's where you are (interesting stuff is in section 4):
26th July 2013, 08:55 PM
paulyg

Vic is 75mm total lift, tyres + springs.
26th July 2013, 09:32 PM
NissanGQ4.2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drewboyaus

Isn't it now within the new national guidelines now that you can run 33's and a 50mm lift without engineering?

Tip tip tip......tap tap tap....

Do we have new national guidelines *LMAO*
26th July 2013, 09:34 PM
NissanGQ4.2

Quote:

Originally Posted by YNOT

Technically you are correct but you would have to be extremely unlucky to be booked for a 2" lift and 33's on a Patrol.

Yes extremely unlucky Tony, but the salesman has every reason 2 say he won't install them if he believes it 2 be illegal
26th July 2013, 09:36 PM
happygu

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulyg

Vic is 75mm total lift, tyres + springs.

Is that the current regulations now, or something that is proposed?

Mic
26th July 2013, 10:00 PM
NissanGQ4.2

I'm not the smartest cooking in the class

But from my understanding from both VIC Roads modification guide and infrastractures NCOP11 Section LS Tyres Suspension Steering ( VSB14 )

50mm is still the current Total limit above factory ride height

But sometimes ( most ) I just don't understand what is written in front of me so I am probable wrong
26th July 2013, 10:32 PM
oddkid82

Quote:

Originally Posted by happygtu

Is that the current regulations now, or something that is proposed?

Mic

That is the current regulations.
27th July 2013, 11:16 AM
Drewboyaus

Quote:

Originally Posted by NissanGQ4.2

I'm not the smartest cooking in the class

But from my understanding from both VIC Roads modification guide and infrastractures NCOP11 Section LS Tyres Suspension Steering ( VSB14 )

50mm is still the current Total limit above factory ride height

But sometimes ( most ) I just don't understand what is written in front of me so I am probable wrong

13.3.1 Option 1 on page 7 of the VicRoads guide:
"This option allows a combination of suspension lift and the fitting of larger diameter tyres that results in a total lift of up to 75 mm without the need for the testing and certification normally required by VSB 14 for lifts above 50 mm provided the following requirements are met."

What it does call into question though is fitting combinations of springs and shocks that are not part of a matched kit from a single manufacturer......

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27th July 2013, 11:20 AM
BigRAWesty

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drewboyaus

13.3.1 Option 1 on page 7 of the VicRoads guide:
"This option allows a combination of suspension lift and the fitting of larger diameter tyres that results in a total lift of up to 75 mm without the need for the testing and certification normally required by VSB 14 for lifts above 50 mm provided the following requirements are met."

What it does call into question though is fitting combinations of springs and shocks that are not part of a matched kit from a single manufacturer......

Tip tip tip......tap tap tap....

So as I read it for you guys, you can 'legally' install a 50mm spring lift and the either 25mm in body or tyres to give an over all of 75mm.. Or any other combination..

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories
27th July 2013, 11:20 AM
NissanGQ4.2

Thanks Drew,

Must of speed read past that paragraph, I did say I wasn't the smartest cooking *L*
27th July 2013, 11:27 AM
Drewboyaus

Westy,
I'm not sure you can include a body lift in that 75mm. I think it is limited to suspension an tyres but could be wrong.
As I also suggested I'm not sure whether it allows fitting a combo of King springs and Bilstein shocks as an example. The way I read it the suspension should be a complete kit from the like of OME, Ironman etc.

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27th July 2013, 11:35 AM
BigRAWesty

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drewboyaus

Westy,
I'm not sure you can include a body lift in that 75mm. I think it is limited to suspension an tyres but could be wrong.
As I also suggested I'm not sure whether it allows fitting a combo of King springs and Bilstein shocks as an example. The way I read it the suspension should be a complete kit from the like of OME, Ironman etc.

Tip tip tip......tap tap tap....

Yep, good point. It's not mentioned so best to leave it..
As for mix and match, places like suspension stuff sell "kits" that are made up of strings from one place and shocks from another..
In the end, I think Its how well you work the situation with the bloke assessing or writing the fine..

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories
27th July 2013, 12:52 PM
sporter

ok guys so im gunna stick my 33s an do the 2inch lift , an as for wht type type of shocks would suit my 4x4 it is now my understanding that foam is good if i was doing alot of travelling
on rough corragated gravel road type work, an gas better suited to take the bigger hits that you often encounter on beaches an dunes given their abbility to compress and rebound quicker, so think im going with gas unless someone strongly convinces me otherwise
thanks guys
STEVE
27th July 2013, 01:40 PM
happygu

I would stick with the Gas Option.

I have had Koni's for years, and have had OME in the past, and they have never let me down in thousands of K's.

Mic
27th July 2013, 01:49 PM
TimE

Be aware that a "50mm" lift will settle with weight and time, so in fact what is sold as "50mm" may well end up being something less.

I have a Ridepro "70mm" lift (matched springs and shock) that had settled to being a measured 50mm lift with all the aftermarket gear (drawers, rear bar, second spare etc) I have bolted up.
27th July 2013, 03:16 PM
paulyg

I have heavy duty 50mm OME on mine and I put 30mm spacers on the back to level it out a bit when fully loaded
28th July 2013, 08:30 AM
Limmy

i'm going to 33tyres . 2" lift , and ....50mm coil spacers ( if I get booked, won't be hard to get em off over a weekend )

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