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Just been looking at intercoolers and is there any maths that come into play eg: diameter, size of cooler and so on... at what point is big too big and is there such thing as too small??
I am asking these questions as I am a complete noob when it comes to turbo's and intercoolers and even diesels now I mention it !!!! lol..!!
Ummmmm yes you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloodyaussie
Sux to be you!
STOP PUSHING MY REMINDER BACK FOOLS...LolQuote:
Originally Posted by Bloodyaussie
In theory there would be a point of too big but I don't think you could fit it on your car.
Wow so informative......... I think I just got dumber reading this thread !!!!!!
Not hard mr peanut...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloodyaussie
Mattys your man bud...
Logic needs to come into play. The hot pressurised air comes out of the turbo and through the ic which cools the hot air before entering the engine.
Having a tiny intercooler means it will not cool down as effective as a larger one but that could be challenged based on brands, style, placement etc.
Same principal would apply for a top mount and a front mount. In theory an exact same size and brand ic would work better in a front mount then a top mount as the front mount is receiving cooler air around the ic (better cooling the air inside) and forced air if driving as opposed to a top mount which is receiving engine heat around it.
I'm spamming your thread??? You bone head I ask a reasonable question unlike these other bone heads you call mates and you pick me out.... your going down Batty !!!!!!!!
What does diameter have to do with it... serious question!!!
Larger diameter is more volume of air, more volume of colder air. In my case with the ht18 the 3" pipe is useless in fact probably making it worse but a larger turbo in the future is pushing more air that will flow faster through the 3" system and a larger pump to deliver more fuel makes it go broom broom better...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloodyaussie
Matty....help me...lmao
Having saying all this I have a lot more restrictions in my set up to slow down the system.
My patroldocta airbox is restrictive
My elbow going into the inlet manifold and the existing nissan manifold is restrictive.
My 3" straight through exhaust is good.
As much volume of cold air as you can achieve in and as fast as you can remove the exhaust gasses out = good!!!
Diameter has to do with volume and air speeds. The smaller the pipe the faster the air speed and less volume. Slow moving air wont heat back up as quick as fast moving air. Also when using Larger turbos that can spool as quick as they do now you can encounter surge so having more volume after the turbo can help to prevent this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloodyaussie
As for cooler size the more frontal area the better. Thickness plays a part as well. To thick and you can lose the cooling effect as the air travelling through has heated up prior to actually getting through the core. To thin and it can be restrictive.
At a mimimum I would use a cooler with 2.5" tanks with 2.5" piping. And 50-75mm thick.
Small coolers are not as efficient and after a period they will not be able to transfer air as effectively. To big and you obvioulsy have a larger volume to fill which can result in lag as the turbo has to pump enough air with enough volume to fill and pass through the cooler.
Excitement...lol
Did Andy tell you roughly what to expect?
He told me to expect around 100-120 so I was happy when it came in at 120 haha.
Yeah bugger, I'm loosing a few pound of boost through the system. Getting them to do a leak test now.
If that checks out then its the overall big system and not enough fuel and turbo to supply what the engine wants.
Fitting boost comp on now, test for leaks and fingers crossed.
bloody cracker of a read it took me a while but I managed to get through all 26 pages AB. nice job mate not only have you done a great job I think hands down you win the biggest IC on a gq prize lol.
Looks like it might be too big for my pump and turbo though...lolQuote:
Originally Posted by dakka1
Might have to upgrade..what a shame...
You will be doing well to get around 100rwkw
I don't think ill get near that unfortunately with this set up.Quote:
Originally Posted by nissannewby
Yeah. I will predict 85-90rwkw with yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by AB
Ok ill go 80 - 85 then...lolQuote:
Originally Posted by nissannewby
Bets are on...
75................
Well?????????????????????????
That bad hey !!!!!!
Boooooo!!!
Only reached 79...I'm saying 80...lol
There is actually a small leak not from the ic install but from the air filter to the turbo, easy fix. Bit scary after all those deep crossing I have done and that's a leak from pre turbo.
Small little leak from one of my clamps, ill change to a smaller clamp, may help me get 80...lol
Advice given...need bigger pump and turbo for my set up so time to start saving. I haven't driving it yet but advised ill definitely notice the difference.
Time to save some pennies!!!
Good results mate.
Do you think? I'm somewhat disappointed but maybe I was expecting too much from the standard pump and turbo and this massive ic.Quote:
Originally Posted by nissannewby
Disappointed why? You have driven it and was happy with the increase in performance so why does that number disappoint you?
Call it 80 haha, mine was 119 and I am calling it 120 lol.
So your pump is maxxed out now?
Hows your car going?
Yep just got home and noticed a good increase in power actually...I'm happy again...lol
Coming up Yarra glen hill was good, averaged 300 up hill.
Sweet, the proof is always in the pudding, who cares about whats on paper. . . . There is always the need for more one day tho . .
I meant a boost controller not compensator in my comment before too.
Yeah certainly your torque figures are pretty which is mainly I look at. Its only a little 10mm pump that is getting old now they dont last forever. Like I said 85-90 on yours would have been doing well.Quote:
Originally Posted by AB
One thing you need to remember with the diesel is your main goal should be torque rise and curve not hp.
Is that Kph?Quote:
Originally Posted by AB
Egt degrees CelsiusQuote:
Originally Posted by Rossco
Feeling better now, thanks blokes... Lol
I think what you will love more than anything is not having to be so aware of your EGTs as you know that on a serious hill it should not be over 300, and no more backing off on long hills either.
That is the main thing isn't it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Winnie
And I'm really happy with that to be honest. As benny said ill do a report in the egt log thread. Ill take it back up kinglake hill so we have a solid 3 setup comparison.
It just means you can deal with waiting until you can save for a new setup =) haha
Ill help even more. Winnies patrol with bigger pump and turbo is only putting out 100 more nm than you but 40 more kw. So your doing pretty well.Quote:
Originally Posted by AB
Then you have bens extreme he is only making 60 more kw than winnie but making 300nm more.
We all know what the next question is for me and that is what pump and turbo to get.
I don't mind spending good money to get something worthwhile. I have been researching a lot and to be honest I am more lost then before.
Any advice would be appreciated...lol
I might be in the market for a pump some time soon too so I am paying attention now...