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Holy crap @Cuppa
What a nightmare mate. Think about it as a positive outcome mate.
Still, should have bitch slapped him. [emoji112]


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Hey Cuppa, That is a pretty average time for you mate. Sounds like you dodged a bullet for sure. It sounds like a few nights at his table and he and his wife may have finally been struck down by guilt pulling this on a nice bloke with a dream. Dodgey meets Dodgey is one thing but Dodgey ripping off good blokes is a whole other issue. Maybe he pulled the pin when your moral compass defined his.

Good on you for staying on point mate and asking for him to be accountable right up to the end. That probably saved you mate. Drive on i say.

I blame Corona. I blame Covid19 an i sure as bloody Hell Blame 2020...

BRING ON 2021. THIS SHIT IS OVER!!!!

Far out Cuppa, what a story and what a dodgey bugger. . "I don't think your the type of person to own an OKA" really what the fluminy giff at least his small conscience finally set in but far out. Shattered for you guys but coulda been a terrible surprise down the track. . At least you've still got a trusty TD with ya still. .

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snippy

Name and shame?

snippy

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Not really needed mate. A bit of google digging with basic innocent information known to date and I found name, surname, wife's name, company he runs, mobile no, email address, school he went to, past employers, son's name, son's occupation. Farked if I understand why people put their lives up online, especially when they're dodgy.

Actually thinking about it, lucky this prick didn't go through with his scam on our mate. Exposure central if he had.

(Maxhead, Rossco and Winnie liked this before I edited and added that last sentence.)

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A workmate of mine has gone missing in either Mount Dissa or Lake mountain, it's now been day 2.
Concerns are heightened as it is extremely out of character for him to stay overnight, as he is known to do day-trip hunts.
Fingers crossed.

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Unfortunately, not a good outcome as all hoped for.
RIP Andrew.

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Unfortunately, not a good outcome as all hoped for.
RIP Andrew.

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Far out mate, that’s not the news anyone would like to hear. Condolences to the family.
Keep your cheen up Hodgey mate


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Originally Posted by Hodge

Unfortunately, not a good outcome as all hoped for.
RIP Andrew.

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Ah shit mate. Bloody hell RIP Andrew.

Speak up please guys if you need to talk about anything. Fucking PM one of us or offload in the depression thread. Give us a chance to help before you go off please!

Shit Hodgey, horrible news mate. All the best. . .

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Originally Posted by Hodge

Unfortunately, not a good outcome as all hoped for.
RIP Andrew.

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Dammit mate so sorry to hear.
RIP Andrew

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Are you ok Hodge? Shocked & sad of course, but news like that can drag a black dog onto those who hear it?

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Looks like you will all have to put up with me for the foreseeable future after all. What follows is a copy & paste from my facebook page this morning. Grrrrrrr!

A follow on from my last excited & optimistic post about buying the OKA. Another story follows, not the one I wanted nor expected. It is a story of huge disappointment, anger & now after little more than 24 hours to process what happened a sense of relief mixed with the yet to dissipate disappointment of a lost dream we had put so much energy into. This no doubt will become another lengthy post, I believe writing it may be cathartic & helpful to me, & after my previous post I feel the need to explain why I am back in Mutchilba today & not in Taree delivering the OKA to the chap who was going to undertake the transmission change etc for us. It's been another rollercoaster ride. Hold tight & read on!

As planned I flew from Cairns down to Brisbane on Monday to pay for & pick up the OKA to drive it the 600kms to Taree, NSW . It was a nervous time, not because of the amount of money I would be paying or because of any fears about the vehicle or whether I was doing the right thing, but because of the severe weather warnings of dangerous winds & flooding along the whole of the route I needed to drive. Some places had already had up to 600mm in a day, & similar forecast to continue at the time I'd be driving. I was confident about the vehicle & about the seller.

The seller met me as arranged, in Brisbane, & took me to his home where I would spend the night sleeping in the OKA before driving it away the following morning. As on my previous visit I was made welcome & we spent a number of hours going through the OKA to familiarise me with everything as well as eating together & enjoying each other;s company. At mealtime I asked to see the the certificate of Electrical safety for the vehicle's 240v systems he had agreed to get, & was disappointed when , without apology, he told me he had not had it done. Worse was the fact he had not obtained the legally required 'Certificate of Inspection' (the Qld version of a heavy vehicle Roadworthy - or MOT for UK readers) , but "not to worry" he said I can still get it in time for you leave in the morning as planned". This was a relief as I had flight onward from Taree booked & paid for. Half an hour later following a phone call he showed me an email on his phone from the certifier with an attached Certificate & a note to say it had been electronically lodged with the Qld transport authority. Phew! Without this transfer of ownership cannot occur. Later that evening he printed out a copy for me, & I checked it over at about 10pm, just as I was waiting for my laptop to boot up in order for me to transfer funds to him.

My heart sank when I noticed it had an engine number different to what was on the engine in the vehicle, & we quickly reached an impasse with me stating I would not be prepared to risk making payment without such details being correct. He suggested that I drive the vehicle away the following morning but withhold payment until he obtained a correct certificate. I thought this exceptionally trusting & generous of him, but also wondered might happen if a problem arose with the certificate. I had reason to worry as the incorrect certificate was obviously 'dodgy' if for no other reason than it had been sent on the basis of emailed info from the owner, not from an actual inspection. The engine number shown was apparently for the original 4 cylinder motor , even though the certificate stated it had 6 cylinders (as per the all important replacement American import Cummins motor). But still I was intent on keeping to plan to drive the OKA away in the morning.

The seller emailed the certifier & said he would follow this up with a phone call early next morning.

I had a restless night in the OKA, which afforded me time to look at many things in more detail. I laid & mentally constructed the internal modifications I wanted to make.

First thing in the morning I was greeted with "Come & have a cuppa, we need to talk". The tone used was not encouraging & I was immediately concerned. As I walked to the house I note that his wife who had been very hospitable the night before appeared to be avoiding eye contact with me & didn't say a word. I imagined that a correct safety certificate may not be forthcoming until later in the day & resigned myself to a much longer drive in one hit, through the wild weather than I had planned on.

My cup of tea was handed to me with the words "I don't think you are the right sort of person to be an OKA owner". This was out of the blue, I was gobsmacked & confused. I have come to realise that this was an attempt to hold me responsible for the decision that was yet to come. I spluttered & gasped my lack of understanding & attempted to reasonably contradict him. I learned that he had been in contact with the certifier who informed him that the only way to change the certificate was for him to attend a Transport dept office in person & that it was highly likely that they would wish to also sight & inspect the vehicle. At this point I saw my well laid plans disappearing out of the window, but even at this point had not contemplated what was to come!

Out of his shirt pocket the seller produced bundles of hundred dollar notes & a piece of paper. "Here is your deposit & I'll pay for your flight back to Cairns, here are flights available today." I was still spluttering, unwilling to accept that everything I'd planned & hoped for was coming to an end right now. He made it clear he had no intention to present the vehicle to the Transport dept, I thought at the time he meant that day, as he had 'a lot on' but now I think he probably meant 'at all'. As the realisation dawned anger trumped disappointment (although I remained relatively civil, I believe I only used the 'F' word once!). I reminded him of all the costs I had incurred on the basis of the sale agreement we had made, including several flights to & from NSW to check out & drive other OKA's with the Cummins/Allison combo I hoped to get fitted, & to meet the chap who would do the work face to face to discuss & agree on the process. The seller responded with 'how much' & when told simply pulled more cash from his shirt pocket & handed it to me to cover those costs. Truly I was reeling, trying to make sense of the situation.
As I sat at his kitchen table, he went to another room, returning with a paid for flight booking, the plane departing in a little over 90 minutes time & us 45 minutes drive from the airport. "Get your bags" he said, we don't have much time.

As we drove, he seemed far less tense than he had done at the kitchen table. I was angry & felt like telling him so, but instead asked him how he was feeling. "Relieved" he said. "Relieved?" I asked. "Yes, I've been worrying that sooner or later you would discover that the Cummins motor is in fact a Chinese copy" says he. This admission that he had been prepared to deceive me was made in the complete absence of any apology. In fact no apology had been forthcoming about things he had agreed to do & not done, or indeed anything else. I expect he had realised that his offer for me to take the vehicle to Taree prior to payment would see the engine deception discovered as soon as it was looked at there by someone familiar with the Cummins motors (unlike me). All was conducted in a friendly manner - very disconcerting. My gut feeling was that as a successful & wealthy businessman, that anything that didn't fit for him was expendable including people, & that apologies were probably something not in the businessman's repertoire. Such things most likely only represented something never contemplated - an admission of guilt.
The two hour flight & 90 minutes drive back to Mutchilba gave me time to begin processing what had happened, later discussion with Julie & friends helped. I turned over every detail I could recall about the affair & about the vehicle again & again. But the story had so many inconsistencies I struggled to gain the certainty I needed about why this had happened. I even started to blame myself even though I couldn't pinpoint what I had been responsible for. It was a pretty 'shit' experience.

Finally this morning I have reached an understanding which fits. Although I am unwilling to detail all the snippets of info which have led to this understanding for fear of both boring you to tears & risk of litigation from the wealthy seller, I am now confident in my belief.

Unlike my home state of Victoria (& most other states I believe), where vehicle modification approvals are carried out by well qualified motor engineers in a very regulated system, in Queensland any motor mechanic with 10 years experience in the trade can apply to become a 'certifier'. Many have & there are a plethora of one man mobile services offering Certificates of
inspection & Modification plates. A quick search on Google reveals that dodgy certificates & plates are not uncommon.

I now believe that the significant modifications on the OKA (Engine replacement, GVM upgrade, home made fuel tank, change in seating & possibly more) have probably been subject to the same dodgy practice as the Certificate of Inspection, quite possibly through the same certifier. All stuff waiting to 'bite' me down the track when I went to re-register the vehicle in Victoria. I believe the seller knowing that things were at the point of unravelling if an inspection at the Department were to occur, felt 'on a hook' & that the only way to extricate himself from that situation was to get rid of me quickly. And that is just what he did.

I remain angry which is probably important in coming to terms with the 'lost dream'. Some of that anger is with myself for having allowed the 'dream' to blind me until a very late stage of the proceedings, in particular that it was the seller's decision not to proceed, rather than mine. However I do take some solace in the fact that however it happened, I 'dodged a bullet'. If the truth had come to light after I'd handed over the money the situation would have been far worse.

What a bastard! Stuff like this shakes one's faith in humanity, but I expect the trust to return with time. Friends have been good

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Geez mate, was that the black oka from coolum beach?

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Geez mate, was that the black oka from coolum beach?

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No Mickhead, this one was white & right in Brisbane.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...020/12/102.jpg
Murphy’s law
5kms from home, 11 at night, have to be up at 3am for work.
FFS [emoji849]


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Yikes , shes fuc#ed. . [emoji107]

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Originally Posted by katwoman

Murphy’s law
5kms from home, 11 at night, have to be up at 3am for work.
FFS [emoji849]


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Should of just plugged it :)

Went out to make and install the 6mm packers for the rear of the bonnet. All straight forward, propped the bonnet, fitted the packers, then bonnet would not latch shut. Tried adjusting the catch, NUP. So took them out and made up a set of 3mm thinking 'maybe' the bonnet is just too high, same result. Took the packers out, bonnet still won't latch shut. Mechanism seems to be jamming about the time it hits the striker bar in the bonnet, cannot get it to engage locked with a screw driver pushing against the spring - maybe it has died with perfect alignment to my job - any ideas? 4 hours wasted, not happy and in worse position than I started.

Silly question but worth asking, hasn't latched itself in the process and need releasing again??. .

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Originally Posted by Rossco

Silly question but worth asking, hasn't latched itself in the process and need releasing again??. .

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I have actuated the lever from the cabin over 20 times, but it all looks to be sitting in the right position, the 'mouth' of the catching tongue looks like it is triggered to receive the bonnet 'peg' then be driven down to allow the catch to rotate. The actual catch is partially closed i guess is a better description - i will have another look tomorrow, not going near the bastard again today

Couple of snaps, with the bonnet release already activated. Is this the neutral or ready to close position of the bonnet catch?Attachment 82660Attachment 82661Attachment 82662

Have you tried manually actuating it mate? The second pic looks incorrect but the third looks right to me

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Originally Posted by rusty_nail

Have you tried manually actuating it mate? The second pic looks incorrect but the third looks right to me

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Nic, the second shot is the rear view of the first shot, so you think this is partially closed? the third is just the catch bar in the bonnet for reference. I can push the catch downwards, but not so the throat of the catch itself is empty. I was hoping somone could check and post a photo of the catch on an operating bonnet catch for reference? Its a total mongrel to push the plate downwards, and going backwards looks impossible - maybe its faulty?

If nobody gets pics for you tonight Phil I will grab some when we get home tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by Winnie

If nobody gets pics for you tonight Phil I will grab some when we get home tomorrow.

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Thanks Chris, totally over it right now. Such a bloody simple job turned to custard and simply can't find the issue - no doubt staring me right in the face. The 6mm packers under the hinges look nice and discrete when the bonnet is closed, however there is a nice little heat vent generated which will help my under bonnet temps for sure. was going to do this quick job then knock off the bilge fan installation also, but now back at square 1 after the day. Bugger bugger.....

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Nic, the second shot is the rear view of the first shot, so you think this is partially closed? the third is just the catch bar in the bonnet for reference. I can push the catch downwards, but not so the throat of the catch itself is empty. I was hoping somone could check and post a photo of the catch on an operating bonnet catch for reference? Its a total mongrel to push the plate downwards, and going backwards looks impossible - maybe its faulty?

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Here is a pic of my Navara, hopefully it helps matehttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...020/12/105.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...020/12/106.jpg

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One of the gu for.good measurehttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...020/12/107.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...020/12/108.jpg

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Thanks Nic,

I think that is essentially what i have, but for some reason the bonnet hits the striker plate and does no go downwards enough to allow the catcher to close down on the bonnet bar - I cannot find any interference - baffling but will be simple. i have pulled the unit off the car and can't fault it. I will have another 'mum' look tomorrow and hope the culprit will be discovered. The bonnet is back in place without the spacers as well and still not closing, nothing left on the side boards or obvious.

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Thanks Nic,

I think that is essentially what i have, but for some reason the bonnet hits the striker plate and does no go downwards enough to allow the catcher to close down on the bonnet bar - I cannot find any interference - baffling but will be simple. i have pulled the unit off the car and can't fault it. I will have another 'mum' look tomorrow and hope the culprit will be discovered. The bonnet is back in place without the spacers as well and still not closing, nothing left on the side boards or obvious.

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Ok, can suggest you try inserting something similar to the rod, like a larger screwdriver and see if the action works? Then perhaps remove bump stops on each corner and work back from there? Maybe even see if you set your phone camera to record and close the bonnet to see what it is doing?

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I remember having a similar issue not very long ago. It confused me for 5 mins and in the end I think I just slammed it shut harder. I don't actually know what went wrong but it has only ever played up that once and been fine since.

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Here's a pic of mine with bonnet already up. . http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...020/12/110.jpg

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http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...020/12/102.jpg
Murphy’s law
5kms from home, 11 at night, have to be up at 3am for work.
FFS [emoji849]


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Ahhh what a sh1t @#$*

@PeeBee

Phil have attached a couple of pic of 08 GUIV Fwd/Aft, a bit different in the way brkt stops latch from rotating when in open position but your latch looks correct to accept bonnet U bar to lock / closed.

I raised rear of mine 5mm a while back with no imapct on latch function. May be a bit of Plasticine or similar to check alignment or maybe masking tape.

Hope pic helps.

Edit_notice U have lots of pic to choose from lol

Thanks guys, appreciate the effort and response. I will have a crack at it later today after my patience runs out with my work load for the mine. It may well be I need to slam it harder, but the last drop was 10" and it still seemed to be stopping. i will try the plasticine - think we have some in the cupboard?

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Here's a pic of mine with bonnet already up. . http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...020/12/110.jpg

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That looks just what i have, but won't slide around to engage the bonnet latch.

Hey there Pee Bee, hows it going.
Just make sure that the safety catch is not causing the problem. It may be slightly miss aligned.

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Hey there Pee Bee, hows it going.
Just make sure that the safety catch is not causing the problem. It may be slightly miss aligned.

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Thanks Pearcey, it has to be something simple and stupid. After 3 hrs plus dropping the bonnet and swapping out packers and getting back to where i started, my brain was not linking with my eyes i think!

OK, after another 2 hrs jinking around it appears the mounts of the bonnet catch have bent/twisted and the catch is bending downwards, so the solution appears to first bend the legs back and then slightly elongate the mount holes to lift the assy up and allow the catch to engage. I think there may be a very slight interference with the s/c case, so the scoop opening needs a poofteenth shaved off. Finished for the day, frustration level exceeded.

So, that didn't work either, the ears of the catch mechanism are snagging on the cavity in the bonnet - looks like the entire cross strut in front of the radiator is twisted and cocking the catch over. So, I zipped down to the wreckers and bought another one. Bugger me,. still not closing. I have put 10mm of packers under the arms and the gap at the rear of the bonnet looks ok. I just need to resolve the catch - tomorrow, truck and i are not talking right now. What has changed since I closed it earlier this week and now - no idea.

Would love to offer a second set of eyes mate but I have the Christmas party tomorrow.


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These are finally making sense.. all these years I thought they were a POS 😀Attachment 82674

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So, that didn't work either, the ears of the catch mechanism are snagging on the cavity in the bonnet - looks like the entire cross strut in front of the radiator is twisted and cocking the catch over. So, I zipped down to the wreckers and bought another one. Bugger me,. still not closing. I have put 10mm of packers under the arms and the gap at the rear of the bonnet looks ok. I just need to resolve the catch - tomorrow, truck and i are not talking right now. What has changed since I closed it earlier this week and now - no idea.

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This is for a GQ PeeBee?