and what is in the trailer???
Mic
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and what is in the trailer???
Mic
Yo Happytgu suggested very early to tap the Cat, could be something simple like that but nissan have pulled Goats 4x4 apart plenty of times,
they can't be that BLIND can they.????? Choked up throttle body, butterfly. ALL THESE THINGS WOULD OR SHOULD HAVE BEEN CHECKED ALREADY< BUT YOU NEVER KNOW
I don't know, but surely it can't be that hard for the experts to fix......
It really depends if they have the apprentice on the job or the tradesman, who has actually seen and solved a few wierd problems over the years.
Although, if the problem is only apparent towing a load, and again towing it up a steep hill, how are the Nissan mechanics going to replicate that......
I know Goat is up in the NSW Tablelands somewhere from his original intro. I wonder if there is someone else with a CRD that can tow the same trailer up the same hill. You would hate it to be something like a dragging wheel bearing on the trailer itself.
Mic
The so-called Nissan mechanics did take a trailer with a 3 ton load out and made the Patrol overheat. That was when the "techs" from Nissan Australia told them to take the driving lights off.
The Patrol is towing a bogie trailer with 1 ton of water. The trailer itself weighs 750 kgs. Should imagine that falls a fair bit short of the 3.2 ton load that Nissan says this model is capable of towing.
And we are between Bathurst and Mudgee. The road is NOT flat (never has been), but we are travelling on sealed roads.
Going to have a closer look at the catalytic converter tomorrow morning. Would have thought that if there was a problem there, it would have been evident all the time, not just when towing a load uphill.
Give it a shot Goat, I really hope it is only a gummed up cat, then you can drive your now non over heating patrol straight through the showroom LOL Nah not really
I've just read thru the thread , sorry to see that you have been put thru the ringer with this . I think that nissan would have checked all the usuall suspects and would have their best mechs on the job as It is obviously bad for publicity if a car keeps being returned for the same problem . The problem may a rare one but not neccesairily difficult to fix . For my 2 cents worth , I think I would check out the air filter , I have seen new air filters that have been fitted still with the plastic wrapper still on them and air intakes that are partially blocked by plastic bags and food wrappers even inside inner guards also air filters that have been clogged up well before their service date .
Goat, If the muffler or cat has only a partial blockage, it may well be the cause.
Mic
Thanks, everyone! The mechanic son-in-law came out with me over the weekend and we managed (with little trouble) to get the Patrol to overheat again. The intercooler and turbo were sizzling. It is only when the Patrol has to work at low speeds, ie going up a hill towing a load. We tapped the cat, but nothing appeared to move/dislodge. The intercooler is as clean as a whistle, as is the radiator (no blockages). Don't quite know what I'm going to do from here on in. Don't want to invalidate the warranty (and we know that Nissan will invalidate it in a heartbeat), but need to get the problem resolved ASAP. Fair Trading have issued a file number, and we will be forwarding a detailed "diary" of the problem, as well as what we want to happen to resolve the issue. I shall keep you posted.
All this BS is doing my head in and its not even my car, can't imagine how your feeling. Still this engine cooking can't be good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goat
This is really a sorry saga , hope it gets sorted soon . Having bought a new patrol in April , stories like this don't do the nerves any good
Don't worry too much Nipa, as my temperature gauge hasn't ever moved from it's normal position in the 11 years of owning 3 Litre Patrols, and that is with towing heavy loads as well. That is the wierd thing about this - a properly functioning 3 Litre doesn't ever overheat.
Goat's Turbo and Intercooler sizzling......now they normally get warm, but something about this just ain't quite right, and if it isn't the radiator or the exhaust, then it can only be back to the motor itself - possibly something with the replaced turbocharger, CPU or sensor, or worse still a cracked head or.... Nissan's Problem
Mic
Have a feeling we bought a Friday Patrol .........
They have blocked the missus from posting on the 4x4 page. She has started on their "Nissan Australia" page. Guess its only a matter of time before they block her from that that one as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD
Australia the land of freedom of speech as long as you don't talk about mr Nissan.
Mr Nissan could of handled this SO MUCH BETTER, what a great PR opportunity for them
to win back customer confidence again. But no, we all go on saying the same old, same old about nissan
Because IMO they don't give a S&%T about you or me
Give us a look at the spiel your missus is posting on their page and what page she is putting it on. I'd be happy to post a copy on their page too. I wonder what they will do when everyone that reads this thread posts the same complaint quoting you guys. Maybe they will bounce us all??Quote:
Originally Posted by Goat
I'm in for that, maybe it will get the point across.
Tappa tappa
I wish you well in this , but feel it will fall on deaf ears.
I really feel for Goat and his GLW for all this crap they are going through. Why not instead invite or give mr Nissan free sponsorship, etc to the forum
similar to the way ARB monitor the forum for feedback. Just have to look at the way customers were treated with the bubbles on their dash.
OK. These are some of the comments she wrote on the Nissan 4x4 page and the Nissan Australia page. Gone now. The only thing that's showing up is her "likes" on other "bad" comments made by others. Guess they will go soon too.
"Our 2010 Patrol turbo diesel cab chassis was bought new in 2010 and now has 70,000 kms on the clock, still under warranty. At 35,000 kms, the turbo failed, and we had to fight with Nissan Australia to get it replaced. Took 3 weeks. Three weeks ago, it started to overheat whilst towing a trailer up a hill on a main road. The answer was to "remove the driving lights". Done. No change. Still overheat
ing.
Next investigation included checking the radiator (pressure tests), changing the fan coupling (took a week), check hoses and thermostat, check for a blown head gasket - all negative (according to the dealer). Done. No change. Still overheating.
The final straw came when Nissan Australia wanted a certified weighbridge docket showing the front and rear axle weights, and then have the service manager ride in the car with my Other Half VIDEOING the dashboard gauges and the road they were travelling on. Told the Customer Service Manager in Melbourne to stuff their ideas where the sun don't shine. Vehicle off the road for 3 weeks and no diagnosis.
An independent mechanic has told us that, with all the episodes of overheating, the engine would now be stuffed. Fair Trading will now handle it.
Nissan just don't want to pay out for warranty claims."
and
"Nissan Australia's "customer service" is a contradiction in terms. They don't have "customer service". They subcontract their "customer service" section out to another company, solely for the purpose of avoiding warranty claims, I'd say."
and
"We are having a hell of a blue with Nissan Australia over their inability to diagnose an overheating problem in a 2 year old Patrol cab chassis. Has taken them 3 weeks and have gotten nowhere. "Take off the driving lights", "flush the block and radiator", "change the thermostat", "you are overloading it"! The crunch came when they wanted the Other Half to drive the car up a hill with the dealer's service manager sitting beside him VIDEOING the dash gauges and the road. How stupid do they think we are!! We had a 1990 Holden Rodeo with more guts than this Patrol. Damn shame we got rid of it."
"
Sounds fair to me, only slight angry tone about it, need to let Legal people handle it now as sometimes the wording is very important. You certainly don't want this to come back and bite you on the butt.
Yo Goat what area are you from????
Near Bathurst, in NSW. Windy at the moment.......
You haven't seen wind was like the start of the Wizard of Oz here today.
Anyone local that can tow your trailer to replicate your hill climb??
Don't even have to tow a trailer now, threedogs. It overheats coming up the hill without the trailer. I've done the same trip with the same load with the same trailer before, and the vehicle didn't even look like overheating. Had a Rodeo pull the same load, and didn't bat an eyelid.
Realise all that, was just thinking videoing similar 4x4 doing the same thing, might be evidence, maybe.
Yeah, not a bad thought. Have a friend with a Landcruiser. Would that do??
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Originally Posted by threedogs
I'm up at Orange with a 2007 CRD if that helps. I've been following your plight with interest and be happy to help if you think it would be beneficial.
use a nissan pulsar ! and get them to explain why it can do it but your patrol can !Quote:
Originally Posted by Goat
God one Mega like to see them explain that one
Ha ha, Nissan can block you alright, BUT, whatever is posted on here, will be picked up by Google worm, and anyone searching about Nissan will find it lol.
For example, this is a post from another Forum, I just Googled 2010 4.2 GU overheating, as many would.
15 posts - 9 authors - 16 May 2009
As of today i am the new owner of a 99 model turbo diesel Gu st coil cab ... and the car made it to 450,000kms before his son overheated the engine, ... Weiner: Been here a while: Posts: 210: Joined: Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:47 ...
Cheers, the ferret.
The problem certainly sounds like it is getting worse I would not drive the vehicle until problem is rectified other wise by the sounds of everything you have stated in this post you are gonna end up with a catastrophic failure. I work on diesel engines day in and day out mate and you have an issue with your engine it doesnt take a rocket scientist to work this out. Your nissan dealer is giving you the run around draggin it out until you either give up or your out of your warranty period.
I work with a bloke who owns a 2010 crd ute and it is constantly loaded with about 1000kg of gear at least and he has done 180k problem free.
I have been watching this also with some interest as its about time nissan came to the party instead of denying the obvious. These things are pumped out in such big productions that you can end up with defects from the get go.
I hope everything works out for you mate, no one would blame you at this stage for going to a different manufacturer. All the best.
Missus has found Twitter. She said Nissan can't delete tweets, but they will probably end up blocking her there as well.
What are the fair trading or consumer affair guys saying??? This does not sound right, some fishy happening here mate. I would even spend a couple of hundred bucks and talk to a good lawyer to get his thoughts. Get onto the current affair tv show, they love this stuff!
Feel for ya mate, don't give to . Stick it right up them!!!!!
.........on the move
Just be very careful what you say, even the facts can get you into trouble, this will go world wide and these pr ks have a lot more money than you for Lawyers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goat
Cheers, the ferret.
She's just saying that Nissan doesn't like honouring warranty claims. Nothing that could be seen as litigious.
Still waiting for someone from Fair Trading to get back to us. In the meantime, a radiator repair mate is going to pull out the radiator on Sunday and rod it out for me. If that doesn't work, well, who knows what comes next .......
If it's the alloy radiator, you will need a new gasket for the top.
You will also need the special clamps and a pair of multi grips.
Don't mention you had the radiator out!!
Cheers the ferret.
I'd be wary doing that mate never know they will most likely use it against you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goat
Hi Goat as Ive said before ,you need to be very carefull how you word things, just one word in the wrong place and you'll be swinging by the" big fellas"
NO MORE, Just wait and see what Fair Trading come up with, It may not be helping your case
The bloke doing it does radiators as a livelihood. He had a look at it on Tuesday night.Quote:
Originally Posted by the ferret
To be quite honest, this whole situation is getting to us. We can't believe the amount of support we've had from you guys here, and equally, can't believe the obstructive attitude of Nissan. We will be happy when its all over.
Stay patient, keep your cool, if the patrol is over heating all the time now, DON`T drive it at all. Don`t give nissan any excuses. Continue to keep records of events for posible legal reasons. And remember good things come to those who weight. Good luck Mr and Mrs Goat. I think we all feel for you guys.
Steve
Windy here too, funny I don't remember eating anything that would cause that :smileyvault-cute-biQuote:
Originally Posted by Goat
Nah seriously, how do you tell you've got a sports hyundai ? The driver's wearing Nike :harhar:
Chin up Mr & Mrs Goat :).
Goat - any luck so far