I read all of that clunk and not one single dick joke!?
>>>tappin from tassie
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was thinking that myself, maybe he's drinking lol
Look no harm exposing people sometimes. Remember the rock spider/rapist that made his way onto a forum meetup that had kids there. No harm letting people know that someone may not be what they seem. Someone here may have dealings with Paul down the track and will now know to take his words with a pinch of salt
Author Don Tate 21st January 2016
The ANZMI/AUSTRALIAN VETERANS MATTERS websites are inhabited by some of the vilest men in Australia- and pending legal action might well see them completely investigated by court order.
The class action being pursued by Shine Lawyers against the Australian Defence Force for abuse suffered by ex-members of the ADF and veterans should allow, at long last, for the discovery of the cowards who facilitated, administered, and contributed to both the ANZMI and AVM web sites- particularly there financial structure.
Because when mud is thrown, it tends to stick. And that’s the worst of it. It's why the AVM became such a compost heap. It allowed for mud to be thrown at an individual for no other reason than to discredit whoever was standing against the corruption endemic to the Australian Defence Force.
Sadly, at a time when we celebrate those supposed noble traditions of “Anzac”, the fact that this web site even exists at all detracts from all that nobility those veterans espouse.
Forget mateship and honour and ‘Anzac spirit’ and all that guff.
Sure, there are those who will argue that this is to be expected from a troubled minority group like Vietnam veterans. It is, after all, a fragmented, disaffected minority group like no other, inhabited by men with a seething anger at losing a war, who lost their youth and their health in a futile enterprise, and who still alienated to a great extent from the greater body of man by the prolonged media exposure that turned so many minds against the warrior.
Add to that disaffection a time bomb caused by exposure to defoliants and herbicides ticking away inside them, and it’s a toxic blend.
These are men mostly sick in mind, and heart.
In truth, it is a community of men still at war. Not just with the society which still finds reason to revile them despite the decades of platitudes poured upon us since the Welcome Home march, but with each other. Man against man; unit against unit; Corps against Corps.
To some degree, it is a community of malcontents that sees injustice at every level, be it from those previous leaders who were prepared to use soldiers as expendable pawns in the pursuit of ‘gallantry medals’, to the politicians and governments of every government since in respect of devalued pensions and superannuation, and even from the courts where the impact of war service on the psyche is rarely understood or made allowance for.
Then again, there are also those who always had criminal predilections and inherent character flaws who use their service in the war (as little as it was in many cases) as an excuse for abominable social misbehaviour.
So, mischievous, idle hands abound. A manifest madness exists within the ranks and the worst of it is that the higher echelons of the military ‘establishment’ uses those sick minds to its own advantage. They are not only a party to the abuse of veterans already psychologically disturbed by war, but in some instances actually provides the administration and the network to facillitate the abuse.
The internet is the perfect tool for such cowardly men, and web sites like the AVM and ANZMI are the perfect vehicle for cowardly behaviour to flourish. There’s nothing like anonymity to give a man the balls he lacks in real life.
Make no mistake, the AVM (the more evil of the two web sites) acts as the buffer between a beleaguered, self-serving hierarchy of former military officers and its most strident, clamorous opponents. By pretending to expose ‘wannabees’ and ‘frauds’ within the veteran community, it has a licence to negate any opposing opinion by utilising the tools of slander and vilification.
All the while, the bona fides of the AVM’s administrators and contributors are steadfastly hidden by cowardly pseudonym- though a careless few have been unmasked, as mentioned already.
More often than not, they use words that suggest some measure of the very masculinity they lack – names like “Spartakus”; “Cassius”; “Savage”; “Zion”; Boots”; “Action”; “Cavalry”; “Ruger 357” and so on. It’s as if they realise they really are lesser men – having nothing but a coward’s core, the quisling’s heart, and by using such a pseudonym, it allows them some small measure of self-esteem.
Or pseudonyms like “Fergus Fairfax”; “Samsung”; “Certo”; “ Cicero”; “Shadow”; "Sunray"; and “Mowgli” – exotic choices meant to convey some sense of a greater intelligence than the run- of- the- mill, a choice that suggests a grander view of the world. But in the hands of such men, those terms are demeaned, for their actions portray them as little men of the world with nothing but a maggot’s appreciation of it.
Then there are those whose level of relative intelligence is reflected in pseudonyms like: “Nuidat68”; “D371”; “KRT”; “KD117”; “BC”; “XXXX”; "CD"; "PM"; and so on. Here are ‘men’ (and I use the term loosely) capable only of utilising the initials of their name, or some aspect of their service history. These are the weaklings who lack not only a measure of intelligence, but creativity. These are men who run with the herd, who cannot survive without the protection of the pack. By hiding within, they avoid the glare of the searchlight themselves.
Sadly, despite its links to a known paedophile in Rockhampton, and to an ex-service organisation in the same locale which is run by those with similar sexual appetites, and despite many of its contributors being known criminals (including a self-confessed murderer, thugs, and fraudsters) no one dares call it to account.
No politician. No media commentator. No Police Commissioners.
An impotent Australian Federal Police force simply refuses to enforce the legislation clearly set out in the Telecommunications Act (Section 474: 17). Thus, the cowards proliferate- or they did, until a small group of us turned the tables on the fools.
These are men who dare not raise a knuckle like true men once did, instead resorting to the abject cowardice of social thuggery armed only with a keyboard and the dead of night to do their dirty work.
Like that most cunning of animals- the dingo, which leaves no paw prints, the contributors to the AVM reflect all that is sad and evil within man.
But on days when war veterans march proudly along our city streets, one needs to ask these questions of such men – while they pretend some overt display of Anzac pride, can there a greater expression of true cowardice than those who choose to hide in such shadow-lands? What does it say about any man that he would prefer such an existence? What is it about themselves or their own service that they are hiding or running from?
Or have they no true understanding of what being a man is really all about?
They threaten and bluster and boast of their own war service, about how tough they are, what great soldiers they were, and what they'd like to do to someone like me who stands up to them – but when I visited their cities on speaking engagements to do with my memoir as I did on more than 180 occasions across Australia since 2008, with only my wife by my side, they failed to show.
Or like Bob 'the bolter' Buick did at Kawana Library a couple of years ago- bring a dozen mates with him to look after him and make sure the local constabulary were aware of a likely confrontation. Such cowardice.
Or if they did attend, they scuttled away like cockroaches without introducing themselves to me and voicing their opinion face to face like true men might have.
After careful, detailed observation and analysis of those who contribute to those web sites, without exception, these rock throwers prove to be insufficient ‘men’, as men go.
Physically deficient. Socially inept. Failures at work or play. Usually wife-less. These are talentless and tainted men, whose sense of manhood left long ago, hand in hand with any notion of decency, honour and integrity they might have clung to.
The greater tragedy is that the criminals behind these web sites are so devoid of substance and moral fibre that they must hide behind pseudonyms and inhabit a dung pile like the ANZMI, will march alongside men of true grit and honour on days like Anzac Day and have a beer or two afterwards – and no one will notice the difference between the two.
“Only when the beast goes home and looks in the mirror, is the true identity realised”.
Don Tate
So you did serve in the Rhodesian light infantry!
Any comments of your own about the above screen shots?
Lol sorry Paul I'm just an uneducated rock throwing coward turd and I really don't care either way, you don't owe me anything but it's fun for sport.
>>>tappin from tassie
what the?,
Im stumped.
You haven't answered one question that's been asked of you ALL DAY
Reply to long winded Post above by PMC or RLI whatever
What the hell has that got to do with the Price of Eggs.
You need some help
Attachment 65438
Sorry, couldn't help myself
Bahaha Paul mate.... Yep the original article has been found.... Get some help.
>>>tappin from tassie
Should send a screen shot of this to the Author Don Tate
This is going nowhere!
Can I suggest that PMC is barred and all this and connections to it deleted.
Not really what I came back for, understand free speech, rights of individuals etc but this is so negative its depressing.
Thought some other outcome might happen but I was dreaming, more fool me!
We'll let the boss make the call when he gets back from Nics wedding
If it's deleted then he'll just do the same thing somewhere else...
Lock it and leave it for the Web to find.
Someone is in need of serious psychiatric help me thinks.
Leave it open and anyone who wishes to do so can read it... and anyone who doesn't can ignore it...
Personally I can't see a problem with that.
Paul..... Whats going on?. Seems the judges gavel has fallen!!
You need to step up to the plate mate. It's time for the truth, not long winded cut and paste.
As for... delete, lock or leave open the discussion.... The first two leave nothing but open wounds, better to be able to discuss the situation, otherwise it just festers.
leave this thread open
1) so PMC / RLI can eventually respond to the accusations
2) so forum members can vent their spleen, and try and get answers from others who may or may not know more
3) so it can be found on the Web, if anyone is researching this, or instances like this, it is a record for reference use
as an Army Brat, and Proud of my Father as being a Vietnam Vet,
I take it personally when others claim they were serving somewhere in the ADF when they were not
Interesting read here.
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2001/s316125.htm
This is a line from this report.
"Today, a core group from the guild led by former SAS soldier Paul McTernan have met to discuss strategy."
whats that song oh yeah Henry the eight, so
second verse same as the first,,,,,,,,,,
And http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...249460429.html
former army officer Paul McTernan
OOI are all RLi/PMC medical conditions real or are they fabricated as well.
looks like he's been living next to a pie shop [insert]
Paul,
It's no secret on this forum that you and I were mates and I was instrumental in getting you reinstated (at your request) when you were banned. As you know I've been aware of the ANZMI accusations for about six months. You refuted these on the ANZMI website, the Save Woolgoolga War Memorial Facebook sites and other Facebook sites.
I know what you told me personally and this didn't gel with what you later publicly denied. Mates don't lie to each other, at least I don't and they don't use each other either. It didn't take me long to realise you were actually a fraud, that's when I ceased all contact with you in Sept last year.
I've refrained from commenting here but I've had a couple of PM's and phone calls asking my view on all this as we were mates.
I've never done any military service but I have mates and family who did. My father and several uncles fought with the Allies in WW11, my uncle was killed and he was only 17. My father and uncle then went on to fight in Indonesia for another three years (they were in the commando unit). My uncle was seriously wounded but continued to fight on and saved several others from certain death. He received a medal from the King and had the limp to show for it until he died. I still remember the burn scars on my late fathers back from when a troop carrier exploded above him. Neither of these brave men sought any glory or celebrated the war, it wan't till after my fathers funeral that someone from the RSL even realised he was a returned serviceman and contacted us. It wasn't something they talked about or glorified, I do recall him telling us as boys that he hoped we never had to live through a war.
My best mate of over 50 years enlisted in the army as soon as he turned 18 during the Vietnam war, he never got posted overseas as the war ended not long after. Fifteen months ago I attended the funeral of a family friend of over 40 years, he served in 1ARU, 2RAR Vietnam. He was wounded at least once and did occasionally speak about what he saw, he went on to serve as the local RSL President and later Vice President until he became to ill to continue.
I've been around a while and worked with several ex servicemen, they didn't see it as anything shameful that they didn't see action. I have the up-most admiration for them and all returned servicemen, BUT I don't have any time for frauds.
Drop the spin Paul, I think you should seek professional help.
yep, seems like i too was duped :( as much as i dont like to admit it unless Paul can come up with some solid answers im afraid i too have to go with the belief that he has been living a lie and spreading bullshit all over, i did as previously stated get some good help for my niece in Victoria through Paul for which i will be forever grateful but to misrepresent yourself so publicly is not on, shame on you and the lies and deceipt.
yet to hear from Matt NN I think they were pretty tight,
hopefully it will be done and dusted and we can all get
back to Nissan Patrol topics,
TD, I don't think it reasonable to put pressure on any member to post, it is an individual decision.
Everyone who has been on the forum a while will have felt some impact of all this, some more , some less. Choosing to say nothing is just as valid as speaking out.
I dont care one way or another I just want to get back to normal.
Just seems to be dragging on, did AB go away ?
I wasnt waiting on NN he's a big boy and can do what he likes
So I wonder which one of these who were employed by Fynwest for the Wharfe was Paul, wonder if he's the one from SASR?
Army Reserve personnel have been identified as being involved in Dubai stevedoring training. Reserve members are part-time employees and there are less stringent conditions relating to taking leave. However, 5 members notified their unavailability to parade which included notification of overseas travel.
Of the 36 members in the permanent forces, the breakdown is as follows:
Royal Australian Air Force
Australian Regular Army Army Reserve 7 x Warrant Officer Class 1 1 x Captain 16 x Warrant Officer Class 2 1 x Warrant Officer Class 1 1 x Staff Sergeant 5 x Warrant Officer Class 2 3 x Sergeant 1 x Sergeant 4 x Corporal 1 x Corporal 3 x Lance Corporal 1 x Lance Corporal 1 x Private 1 x Private Total: 35 Total: 11
1 x Leading Aircraftman
Total: 1
The personnel came from the following units around Australia:
ADF Recruiting Unit— - Melbourne 1 ADF Recruiting Unit - Sydney 2 Army Logistics Training Centre - Portsea 3 Command and Staff College - Portsea 1 Defence Centre - Perth 3 Directorate of Military Engineering (Army) - Melbourne 7 Headquarters 13 Brigade - Perth 1 Perth Logistics Battalion— - Perth 1 Royal Australian Ordnance Corps - Bandiana 1 School of Armour— - Puckapunyal 1 Special Air Service Regiment - Perth 1 2nd Commando Company - Mosman 1 2nd Combat Engineer Regiment - Enoggera 4 4th Brigade Admin Support Battalion - Oakleigh South 1 4th/19th Prince of Wales Light Horse - Macleod 2 5th/7th Battalion Royal Australian Regiment - Liverpool 1 5th Combat Engineer Regiment - Penrith 1 10th Terminal Regiment (Transport) - Mosman 2 13th Field Squadron - Perth 1 301 Base Wing (RAAF) - Orchard Hills 1
Pull yourself together man sounds like you're falling apart. lol
Think of a dick joke and all will be good lol
PMC is not going to answer any question here , all he'll do imo
is cut and paste another page of non related dribble if that.
Suppose he should not have called us all turds etc etc
OOI are turds measured in KG or CM ???
I measure mine in Hours.
IE after I punch one out... How many hours it takes before anyone else can enter the Dunny without onset of immediate and continuous projectile vomiting.
My record is a 4 hour turd but I admit I used a performance enhancing diet of caramalised onion, anchovie, licorice and vindaloo now banned by WADA and also blocked off the Air Con to the ablution area, a practise now outlawed by FARTS (Federated Australian Rectal Turdological Society).
Could also be described as "Hang time" imo
A good dog will do that. lol
I also measure mine in hours, but its to do with how long it takes to unblock the sewerage pipes, not how long the smell lingers, although that is a rather tasty byproduct.........
My record so far has been 18.5 hours, the watercorp and neighbours werent too happy that day...... I now eat plenty of curries and spicy food to keep my stools sloppy and try to stay off the eggs and bananas
This thread started with shit, so ending with it seems logical .......
Ahhh... You must be a member of ANUS (Australian National Union of Shitters) if your using the compaction standard of measurement versus odiferous.
I moved from ANUS after a rather sordid disagreement with an official about the use of artificial binding agents versus natural fibre doping when they disallowed my claim for 16 hours and 59 minutes.
Good to see you have subsequently beaten that mark anyway and by a significant margin too so my heartiest congratulations and keep the poo dropping as they say
What's OOI?