So.. What happened.. I see no vid.. Did you chicken out gorge???
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So.. What happened.. I see no vid.. Did you chicken out gorge???
Lol how did i chicken mate?? We're virtually 1800km away and its physically impossible for me to get there in 15 mins and anyway i don't even know where area 51 in ormeo is LMAO!Quote:
Originally Posted by Westy's Accessories
Haha.. Just dealing shoit mate.. Did you have a good day??Quote:
Originally Posted by Alitis007
My work ute blew a radiator on the way home from my mrs house in the morning and I waited for over 2 hours for a towy to come, worked till 3 with no breaks and my team lost. So yeah had an awesome day!Quote:
Originally Posted by Westy's Accessories
I think some1 needs johno....
its nearly 1100km from where I am now lmao hefty fine if you get caught in there too. but worth it lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Alitis007
From my experience of lockers in soft sand in the beachport Robe area, all the lockers did was make it harder to dig out once you got bogged lol.
Yeah, I'd also agree with that. Once you start "digging in" with the sand you are pretty much done for. Then you'll be as you've said "digging out". Lockers can probably help you dig in that much quicker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris79
One of my mates thats done lots and lots of sand driving seems to have a knack for stopping before completely digging in. He'll often back out when you wouldn't expect or often only need a small push.
I've got no discipline and keep thinking maybe I can still do it. Then in no time I'm dug in deep and gonna need more serious help. :)
Still think in general the lockers are more advantage than not.
I've got an auto lokka in the front with standard LSD in the rear. The lokka made a huge difference reducing the speed I could tackle obstacles. In sand I've noticed that there was an improvement in forward progress especially when hitting mogals and one of the front wheels leave the ground. I don't just stop like I did before with an open diff, it keeps moving.
In regards to turning. I have found it only very slightly heavier steering but its only noticeable with 35s on. In mud it wants to go straight all the time so you have to adjust your driving style and back off a bit when wanting to turn but you will pick it up quickly. In sand there's not really a noticeable change to steering except when you go full lock and give it a little bit off right foot. It will almost turn turn a complete circle on the spot due to the front wheels being locked together and this is in a lwb.
Interesting..... Which direction from you mate west or south?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben-e-boy
Haha sounds like George is keen for a drive!
its south of me. I am at work at the moment its on the northern side of the gold coast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alitis007
In all honesty Benny, i really think we need two vehicles with pretty much the same dimensions, suspension, weight and tyres to give us a fair result ?
And as the others mentioned before with regard to driving on sand, if your spinning wheels and digging holes, your doing it wrong ,regardless of your locked/unlocked diffs, reminds me of those that say mud tyres are no good on sand because they dig in too much, well same goes, dont spin the wheels and mud tyres can still work great on sand.
Yes, but really....locked rear wheel drive v front locked 4wd. There is no comparisonQuote:
Originally Posted by 04OFF
I agree , i just feel if its to be proved or disproved, the vehicles have to be very equal in all other aspects (or close enough)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben-e-boy
e.g, i doubt a standard GU wagon, even with "twin" lockers, would go some places ive seen your ute go Benny ?
I have been many places without lockers just the rear LSD a little hard work at times and has led to breakages but doable. Lockers do make life easier in some situations actually a lot but I do agree with the sand comments which kinda of carry over to other ground conditions, technique is where it's at.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04OFF
As the original post was about sand , and just my 2 cents , I've never seen the need for a locker , as never lifted a wheel yet , before buying the patrol I had a 2.7 lux towing a jayco Swan , the lux was on skinny steel rims and the camper is on 14 inch x 175 , 18 psi in all tires never had a problem . And that includes indian head on a hot summers day , and with the patrol definitely no hassle or worry in the sand . Drive to conditions momentum is the key not speed
Just my 2 cents worth I've seen rigs with all the bells and whistles down to the belly only to see a soft roader drive right past
Steve
I agree Steve, ive personally driven thousands of Ks, spread out on all my local sand islands (Fraser/Moreton/straddie etc) , all without any sort of diff lock, you definitely don't "need" a locker for sand driving, and i would not advise someone to rush out and buy one if sand driving is all they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by gaddy
In fact, i was worried about getting a Lokka , due to the amount of sand driving i do, and the negative reports id read and heard about using a front locker in the sand, but to my surprize, i found the auto Lokka could work in your favour in sand.
As you suggest, driver skill is worth more than anything, all the Rangers, Police, Ambulance all seem to get around the beach on very skinny tyres, and ive only ever seen a Ambo get bogged (racing to a casualty) even then, not under any urgency, i was able to just reverse it out, and drove through what they got stuck in on my first go.
Ive also seen a guy in a AWD Territory on bribie island, he made the second lagoon crossing look easier than anyone else the whole day ! :clapping: