52inch LED bar. $29 + Delivery

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Originally Posted by jc84

Pls excuse the snip...

Evil, I assume I'm one of these poeple who you assume you're saying are 'determined to rip him off'
yet as i've always stated, i expect no light-bar, i do expect to have to make a claim with paypal after the time is up to get only my $42.98 back and as you say all will be whole again.

I don't believe there would be an issue with the thread if people who had not purchased a light-bar stopped chiming in giving their own real world examples which were in no way relevant to this situation. One of which I believe was a moderator and, i would think, should know better...
If the thread had been left to the purchases of the light-bar to discuss messages received from the seller, and replies drafted as it was in the beginning

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No mate, you aren't...
I applaud your subsequent comments and I applaud your stance if all you are looking for is your money back... totally fair enough in my book.

Also, before anyone else feels I have singled them out I wish to state that I haven't done so intentionally.

I will make one rejoinder specific to your post tho.
EVERYONE has an equal right to post up in this forum, it doesn't matter if you don't own the same model truck, it doesn't matter if you live in a different state, it doesn't matter if you hate Cricket, it doesn't matter if you are a moderator, it doesn't matter if you have 10 post or 10 thousand... if you want to have a say then have at it

Also, maybe go back to Page 1 and have a quick check as the thread did not start off as "messages rec'd/sent" it started off as "Here's a bargain boys, get on on it before they realise and/or sell out".

Yeah, you picked on me...

Their negative feedback is multiplying...

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Originally Posted by mudski

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That's a good post.
Sounding more and more likely that I will be receiving a single row 20" bar

I removed what I wrote pooh. Hence the ..........

Sorry couldn't see that on motorculture, lol

the bastards just gave me a refund! lmao

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Originally Posted by megatexture

the bastards just gave me a refund! lmao

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:) :) :) :) :)

No ones actually said they got a bar but it would be interesting to know if any of the good reviews got one.

Maybe you lovelies should all get together and bring in your own........:)

http://www.alibaba.com/product-detai...520827830.html

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Originally Posted by megatexture

No ones actually said they got a bar but it would be interesting to know if any of the good reviews got one.

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I have the exact same bar but in the 40inch version. Effing bright is all I can say. Build quality must be good as it still works and it hasn't fallen apart.

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Originally Posted by 04OFF

Maybe you lovelies should all get together and bring in your own........:)

http://www.alibaba.com/product-detai...520827830.html

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We did that around 18months ago....A group buy was organised...

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Originally Posted by 04OFF

Maybe you lovelies should all get together and bring in your own........:)

http://www.alibaba.com/product-detai...520827830.html

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Already did that and have 5 sitting at home left lol, though for this price I was going to give it to Jason for his hilux as 52" will just about only fit a ute lol

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Originally Posted by megatexture

Already did that and have 5 sitting at home left lol

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How much for one ?

What one lmao I've got a 22" dual row 10w that's ugly as sin! And 5 of the ones I've got on my car (5w22"dual row) and also a single row 10w22" lol

I was impressed with the ones you had a GH, (they worked good)

They were 294 and 34 postage I sold 2 on ebay for a lot more than that but got lazy and they have been in the garage ever since not that it bothers me lol

Im sure you could fit a few more on your car (haha)

Yea you can get cheaper these days that's for sure

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Originally Posted by 04OFF

Maybe you lovelies should all get together and bring in your own........:)

http://www.alibaba.com/product-detai...520827830.html

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They can supply one million a month..........!

Yea but the seller we bought from has run out lmao, biggest joke Ever lol

Edit: and that included china stock

I see their replys on the negative feed back at different to the story they told me.

Sorry,lights out of stock,money's already refunded,u have no loss,pls no worry

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Originally Posted by 04OFF

Maybe you lovelies should all get together and bring in your own........:)

http://www.alibaba.com/product-detai...520827830.html

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Originally Posted by Winnie

Guys you're exaggerating how cheap China is... They will be paying over 200 dollars a bar. There are so many sellers of the exact same thing, I guarantee if they are paying 50 bucks for them they would cut each others throat and sell them at like 52 dollars or else they'll get no sales.

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Hey Winnie check out the link above mate. There is China right there! $25 for a 52" light bar. Crazy stuff mate. The sale price here is dictated by the buyers not the sellers mate, the sellers set the benchmark based on what all the other sellers are selling it for and all want to make money. They all know the market is massive and as long as they all price around the same they will All make a Sh1t load of money.

Classic example of that is trying to buy a 6hp Warn Winch motor. EVERY SELLER on ebay sells them for $460 to $480! Every seller! yet i can go to Amazon and have the exact same motor delivered from the USA to my door for $280. All those sellers are buying it from Amazon too probably and then without discussing (or not) price match what the seller is willing to pay. And sell heaps.

As you know mate the standard markup in Australia from Wholesale to Retail is close to 100% or more, the mark up on Light bars is way way way more than that if you are up the supply chain. The key to the light bar market in particular though is finding the Best Quality product and then you can ask big bux.

That price is for a 6" light bar.

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Originally Posted by Winnie

That price is for a 6" light bar.

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nah its a Crap Add. see the title description rather than the photo. 52" bar. Crazy Cheap.

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Originally Posted by the evil twin

I find it curious that the first 6 or so pages of posts almost everyone acknowledged it was "a typo or error" and if indeed it was all they would be after as "compensation" would be money back.
The seller, who could have handled it many different ways depending on point of view offered money back and even a small gratuity or discounts on other products.
That seemed pretty fair to me and is in line with arbitration and Common Law where everyone should be "made whole", no more, no less.
Now it seems that people are determined to rip him for, what, say $100 assuming 100% markup but even if he is out $50 it isn't right in my humble opinion.
If I was the vendor i would have simple reversed the payments and left it at that then there is no dispute at all.

Finally, another thread has degenerated into some fairly off comments.

IMHO this whole issue is between the buyers and the vendor with Ebay and/or Paypal as the umpires.
Also given the events of a coupel of weeks ago, I for one would suggest it is time to get over it and for AB or Mods to lock the thread

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Thank you ET. I am not the only one who read this thread the same way.
Funny how angry reactions are generally very defensive ones......

Read into it more, definitely a 6" bar at that price.

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Originally Posted by Winnie

Read into it more, definitely a 6" bar at that price.

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I read " 52 inch" no less than 7 times in that add, where does it say its only a 6 inch ?

The ad is misleading. The part number and picture refer to a 6inch bar when you check the specifications tab yet it is advertised as a 52 inch.......

Ive sent them a email to confirm price on a 52", also asked for a price on a 6 inch to avoid any confusion,
ill report back when i get a reply

bloody insane if thats a 52" but i doubt it, my money is its a 3w 6"

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Originally Posted by megatexture

bloody insane if thats a 52" but i doubt it, my money is its a 3w 6"

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Sometimes things get confused in translation, i suspect other times, they try and use it as a excuse to trick us ?

Certainly Pays to ask/check twice before making any order, then of course things like warranty, shipping costs, customs & GST can come along to take all the fun out of the deal (lol)

What warranty? What refund? and then if you buy $2k worth of lights they write down its $400 so you don’t need to pay tax on it ... then it gets lost and shipping/transport say sorry we lost your box here is your $400 to replace them lol

They use language to play dumb in everyday life don’t get me started about and tourism and specially in theme parks ! lol

Im feeling enlightened :)

Mega you need someone to scratch your itch, lol

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Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD

Hey Winnie check out the link above mate. There is China right there! $25 for a 52" light bar. Crazy stuff mate. The sale price here is dictated by the buyers not the sellers mate, the sellers set the benchmark based on what all the other sellers are selling it for and all want to make money. They all know the market is massive and as long as they all price around the same they will All make a Sh1t load of money..

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I disagree with that.
I know for a fact that my 22 inch single row 5w light bar cost the best part of $200 in china, I have personally seen the manufacturers price list. That does not include shipping and import tax, fees etc.
I have also seen other manufacture price lists of some other big name light bars which I will not mention. But it put into perspective who actually sells quality and who marks it up middle of the range.
China is not a giant black market, leading manufacturers are heavily regulated and have all the relevant ISO and CE etc accreditations as a company in the western world would.

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Originally Posted by Ben-e-boy

I disagree with that.
I know for a fact that my 22 inch single row 5w light bar cost the best part of $200 in china, I have personally seen the manufacturers price list. That does not include shipping and import tax, fees etc.
I have also seen other manufacture price lists of some other big name light bars which I will not mention. But it put into perspective who actually sells quality and who marks it up middle of the range.
China is not a giant black market, leading manufacturers are heavily regulated and have all the relevant ISO and CE etc accreditations as a company in the western world would.

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I agree 100% with you bene. But how much was you 22" single row? The product being sold in this thread and that link I would consider to be the bottom end of the market and a flooded market it is with entry level quality products sold in bulk Sorld Wide at a price point rather than a Quality point. That's OK though. But the aprice point product certainly exists out of china. ISO regardless.

As you say though, some mark up to a price point and some truly are that point. I can think of some Suspension brands that play that game too.

I have absolutely No Doubt that at the upper end of the market there is some high quality high end gear at an appropriate price. But, and a big But, the bottom end of the market is not trying to compete with the high end and are making and flogging to the bulk World market for bugger all in real dollars IMO. A 52" light Bar exists out of China just as a $200 22" light bar does.

On a positive note, have just been offered 2 x 10 inch bars as a substitute

Wonder if this guy really did get a light bar like the feedback suggests.

I got a quote from alibaba for 42" $130 each plus delivery or if buy 10 $1500 delivered