I'll be stuffed if I know.....but its got me intrigued
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I'll be stuffed if I know.....but its got me intrigued
Aliens??
Very interesting case ... Without being an aviation expert, one would think that in current day and age and technology, that plane would be tracked every second of it's flight through satellite and radars? So they could go back to the last transmitted position. There is so many speculations coming out daily, it's becoming a joke really.
Yeah, I would agree that with current technology they should know exactly where it is...There is more to this story than we thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by Hodge
Curious isn't it... it certainly is not where they are looking so just goes to show that the world can still be a big place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nisshead
After spending a 2 1/2 years tour in the ADF in Malaysia I can say that, if that sucker was waaaay off course and went down in the Jungle it may be yoinks before they find it.
It's a massive world out there. The thing could be anywhere.
If it did hit ocean in some areas over there, and sank I doubt they will ever know exactly what happened as it's super deep in some spots there.
Whats the box got time wise before it's game over? 30 days or something?
That is their main problem. Once you are more than about 100 miles away from a major airport or military Radar etc then you are out of Radar contact and all position reporting is derived from the Aircraft itself via the Pilots calling in to ATC at reporting points, onboard transponders or Satellite uplink.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hodge
If you "lose radio contact" with the Aircraft once it is out over the ocean, be it fair means or foul, and it becomes guess work.
We had an F18 tragically lost in Australia in 1991 when I was stationed in the NT. The pilot became unconcious and they tracked it from Katherine until they "lost contact" as it neared the Gulf of Carpentaria.
There was a huge search and I mean huge and we knew his heading and approximate fuel useage so everyone thought it's a tradegy but we will find where it went down within 24 hours
A stockman stumbled across the wreckage 3 years later.
Tis very interesting.
I'm now not thinking termism though. If it was someone woukd have claimed it by now surly.
Possibility! Surely they would all have GPS trackers and everything though? If not, maybe after this they will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nisshead
even the passengers phones are still ringing ,,,, close encounter , Burmuda triangle stuff
If it hit water there would be wreckage everywhere. but stuck in the cockpit with the two cute girls
they could be anywhere. certainly a mystery ATM
Probably another speculation but Boeing said these planes have a plane information send function (via sattelite) which Malasian air did not subscribe to but they send these pings automatically. The yanks reckon they know these pings were sent 4 hours after communication stopped... Who knows
Want to know how quickly a flight can go wrong? Check out this about the Air France A330 crash into the Atlantic:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447
Scary stuff to see how fast disaster can strike on an Airliner! I love flying but it even gave me the heeby geebies.....
Gee that really puts the F in flying eh
Is that like snakes on a plane?Quote:
Originally Posted by Westy's Accessories
Same here. Love it. But...Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewboyaus
Reminds me of our last trip home from QLD. Had time to kill before flight, sat down for a coffee at the resorts lounge and they had air crash investigations going ... And they just happen to air the episode discussing how short flights are most at risk. Thanks !
Needless to say, few stubbies followed the coffee to settle the nerves.
Now they are looking in the Indian ocean
my mate is a conspiracy theorist and says that the ping from the plane received by boeing 5hrs after they lost contact has some relevance as the US has an airbase exactly 5 hrs flying time from where it last was on radar, could have some relevance as phones are still ringing etc etc ????
The only good thing that comes from this, is schapelle and her dodgy clan are outta the news YEE HAA
Having worked with the guys that build and sell air traffic management systems, Australia is one of only a handful of countries that have continent wide GPS tracking of aircraft. It means that once you get a distance away from an en-route radar site, it's all managed by manual check-ins and proscribed locations. The pilots themselves are ultimately responsible for aircraft separation when beyond radar range.
My theory of the accident is that there are two "reasonable" things that could have happened......I think that it was either a controlled flight into terrain due to a systems malfunction.....their nav and communications systems lost the plot and they flew the airplane into the ocean at speed without realising it. Or there was a cabin decompression and the crew were rendered unconscious and the plane eventually crashed into the sea, also at speed.
But really, who knows. There are so many things that "could" have happened and as per my link above, it only takes a couple of minutes of dis-orientation of the crew to bring an aircraft down........fast.
Well it's getting stranger now! Apparently various US officials seem pretty sure the flight headed west now after the transponder was turned off and it was still flying some several hours after the transponder signal was lost!
Who's to believe anything with so many different speculations from every country.
Personally I wouldn't believe breath of what US says.
What happened about the KIWI dudes sighting of something burning hitting the water ,drugs lol
Not saying that this is not the case but could they not have tracked where it ended up then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewboyaus
I think that was the burning hash hitting water in their bong.....hahahahQuote:
Originally Posted by threedogs
still strange that Boeing got pings from the planes maintenance computer 5 hrs after it was lost and mobile phones were ringing 2 days after the plane disappeared.
Phones will ring even without signal,i live in an area with no coverage and when you ring me the phone will ring out then go to message bank..won't actually get the missed call till we venture to town..
Ad today that it is nearly 100% certain that the plane was hijacked and flew on for upto 4 or 5 hours after loosing radio contact.
I have seriously been saying for days that its like it landed somewhere and is on the ground... You'd think demands would have been made by now though hey??
Makes you wonder what was in the cargo?Quote:
Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD
Who says the demands have not been going since the night it left..... Best way to deal with hijackers what be not to give them any publicity in my opinion.....Quote:
Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD
Why would the US send a destroyer to "search"
All a bit sus in my little mind..
Scotty
Wouldn't put it past me the US government didn't highjack the plane...........its been a while since hijackers have flown into one of there buildings
What about tracking some of the mobile phones ??? Probably a bit late now but I can track my iPhone within 50m of its location if not less ??!
Well GPS yes it would be too late but the cell location data should have been available for a few days in the subs HLR so they would be able to identify the country the phones were last in. Then you speak to the the local Telco and pull it out of their VLR. Generally you'd have roughly a two day window for this. However I'm sure some billing data was written into a database if the phones were ringing and normally this should include some location data that would be available for a fair whileQuote:
Originally Posted by timbar
Obviously if all the phones were turned off in Malaysia then you are up shet creek
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Originally Posted by timbar
to track a mobile you have to have three signal towers,i heard somewhere only like 20km range when you do do this...so once out in the ocean it becomes an imppossibilty...this was explained by DR Karl on the ABC the other day while I was in the tractor.
Not exactly true it helps but to find a plane you wouldn't even need to go to that level. You can get it down to a few square kms from one cell.Quote:
Originally Posted by wa 489
I meant trying to find the location of the phone,some one rung up the other day and asked the same question about how come they didn't follow up on the reports of missed calls,could be wrong have been before..Quote:
Originally Posted by lucus30
I know mate but I'm presuming the phones would be in the same location as the planeQuote:
Originally Posted by wa 489
It is an excellent point you make. Could be similar to the ships hijacked around Africa.....Quote:
Originally Posted by rottodiver
The plot thickens... Lol
they say now that it lost contact at one in the morning , just as it was due to pass from Malaysia radar control to Vietnam radio control
VRC did not receive flight MH370 as the transponders were turned off, It would be nice to think it landed somewhere in Pakistan and all on
board were alive. cant see the point of taking a plane with 200 odd ppl on board and not making any claims or demands
Hope it hasn't landed in Pakistan,imaginge a plane loaded with Nuke Shite coming back at us or whoever they point it at,i doubt it would be Australia...I was saying this to the mrs a few days ago.
whats their objective if they hi jacked it ??