Clutch slipping, what to do?

[AB]

Hi guys, I'm away at the moment visiting olds on tappa so hard to type.

I noticed when under load changing from 3rd to 4th to power up hills and at around 2.1k revs as soon as you drop it in 4th and power up slightly it sometimes jumps up and down a bit so I'm guessing the clutch is slipping a bit under load.

That's the only time it happens. My question is what do you guys recommend?

Have I got a long time before it's an issue, is it worth the risk?

I drop clutch in first with handbrake on and stalled straight away but not sure if that's the best test or not.

Any recommendations on a type of new clutch too?

Little bit concerned about our trip coming up in a few weeks too.

Cheers for any advice!

[patch697]

Heres one to check old mate....

I had a problem not so long ago with a customers Rig.... It was doing something similar to what you've explained. The clutch in this thing was only 1500k old so I pretty much ruled it out & went on the hunt. I found that because the clutch fluid hadn't been changes from now it had built up moisture & started rusting the slave cylinder. the Rig is not a daily & after sitting it had started to rust up the normal path of travel of the slaves piston. Now this didn't jam it but what I found it was doing was slowing down the piston return hence holding the clutch out a tad & it was slipping a little under load. What maid it a hard one to find was it wouldn't do in all the time. it was more an intermittent thing.


The thing about this little story is that the clutch was replaced in the first place to rid them of this problem............ Go figure.

[AB]

Nice, thanks for the tip mate. I'll take a squizz and let you know.

[patch697]

Heres one to check old mate....

I had a problem not so long ago with a customers Rig.... It was doing something similar to what you've explained. The clutch in this thing was only 1500k old so I pretty much ruled it out & went on the hunt. I found that because the clutch fluid hadn't been changes from now it had built up moisture & started rusting the slave cylinder. the Rig is not a daily & after sitting it had started to rust up the normal path of travel of the slaves piston. Now this didn't jam it but what I found it was doing was slowing down the piston return hence holding the clutch out a tad & it was slipping a little under load. What maid it a hard one to find was it wouldn't do in all the time. it was more an intermittent thing.


The thing about this little story is that the clutch was replaced in the first place to rid them of this problem............ Go figure.


P.s. In regards to choice of clutch?..... If you need to replace yours I'd be going a safari old mate.... Bloody brilliant.

[YNOT]

I agree with Paul that it would be a good idea to check the master and slave cylinders first, much cheaper and easier to do than a clutch as well.
From my experience Patrol clutches give little to no warning that they are about to let go which is not entirely consistant with what you are experiencing. Not saying that's it's not your clutch just check everything else first.

Sliding off the clutch in 4th at stand still is a better way to check clutch bite than first gear.

For a turbo engine the Daiken Safari Tuff clutches would be the most popular choice. Not cheap but well proven.

Tony

[AB]

Also. My car sits in shed fir ages and the bloke I got it off sat in shed a lot too for long periods.

Also mine is intermittent as well.

Might be on the money there mate!!

[AB]

Thanks Tony I'll check it out. I kind of hope that's the problem now... Lol

[patch697]

New slave is around the $40 mark & a new master (well im priceless hahaha) is around the $130 mark if you run a clutch booster & a bit cheaper again if you don't.

Give me a buzz before you rip it down....I've got a few good tricks for you as well.

[AB]

Thanks mate. I'll check it out and give you a buzz for sure mate.

Damn I love this forum. I would have replaced the clutch with not one hesitation!!

[patch697]

Thanks mate. I'll check it out and give you a buzz for sure mate.

Damn I love this forum. I would have replaced the clutch with not one hesitation!!

Thats what its all about old mate & why we're here isn't it?

Bloody love my Patrol brothers.

[AB]

I'm here for my good looks and masculine body...yep, have another beer Ab!!!

[patch697]

I'm here for my good looks and masculine body...yep, have another beer Ab!!!

hahahahahahahahahahaha......... Yeah I think you better as well...... Bloody clown.......hahahahahahahahahaha

[the ferret]

Sorry Andy, if she's slipp'n, she's on the way out mate.

[AB]

Yep bad news unfortunately the master and slave are perfect which means....I'm up for big money!!!!

[Bob]

Yep bad news unfortunately the master and slave are perfect which means....I'm up for big money!!!!

so what is happening for next weekend ????

[AB]

It's probably the original clutch still...lol

Old bloke just putting around town since new.

I get the car and put turbo on and take it offroad along with steep hills in my area, etc.

[AB]

so what is happening for next weekend ????

I'm taking it mate. I'll use low and keep it up high and take it easy.

Pray to god I'm ok and somehow get money to fix it with a safari. Im getting money from my brother fir that trailer this weekend which was supposed to buy a new couch but this is far more important.

Can't wait to tell the wife about this one...lmao

[Bob]

I'm taking it mate. I'll use lower gears and keep it up high and take it easy.

Pray to god I'm ok and somehow get money to fix it with a safari. Im getting money from my brother fir that trailer this weekend which was supposed to buy a new couch but this is far more important.

Can't wait to tell the wife about this one...lmao

God you are Game LOL.

Tell her after the Weekend

[boots]

AB if you need to borrow a gearbox jack stand and universal dummy input shaft give us a yell . got it here if needed. when your ready to do it.

[AB]

AB if you need to borrow a gearbox jack stand and universal dummy input shaft give us a yell . got it here if needed. when your ready to do it.

Thanks Boots, that's a great offer mate and I may take you up on that with a few cold ones coming your way!!!!

Cheers!

[Woof]

Yep bad news unfortunately the master and slave are perfect which means....I'm up for big money!!!!
Join the club Andy, my Q is still sitting in my backyard with a stuffed clutch.......................so over 4wd's, may have to look at some other pastime as I have not been off road for 17 months..

[AB]

Well I'm not sure what happened but after last weekend at the forum meet up I did about 20 something hours of both on road freeway driving towing the camper at around 900kg's in 4th and 5th gear along with offroad use in mud and rocky tracks with and without the camper. In fact Bluey copped a good punishment on the weekend.

The clutch did not slip or give any sign whatsoever of slipping, etc in the entire trip!

Not sure whats going on but maybe I dodged a bullet for a few more months...lol

[the ferret]

I sent my little gnomes over and they put a new clutch in while you were sleeping Andy!!
http://youtu.be/_WtMHjDlxl0
Cheers, the ferret.

[Silver]

I'm taking it mate. I'll use low and keep it up high and take it easy.

Pray to god I'm ok and somehow get money to fix it with a safari. Im getting money from my brother fir that trailer this weekend which was supposed to buy a new couch but this is far more important.

Can't wait to tell the wife about this one...lmao

Can't pick up the couch with Bluey off the road - obvious really :-)

Glad it's working now - maybe something was binding on a shaft etc?

[AB]

No idea mate but it must of been something like that. I can finally get that bloody couch at Christmas and keep the princess happy...lol.

I've still got your helicoil too!!!!

[Silver]

No idea mate but it must of been something like that. I can finally get that bloody couch at Christmas and keep the princess happy...lol.

I've still got your helicoil too!!!!

The only problem with new couches is the necessity to remember to keep off them if at all grotty - at least until another adult makes the first mark :-)