Will these wheels fit my GQ - MODS dont delete its not about a brothel in India

[PeeBee]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/838412596919306

Anyone fitted these to a GQ? Got any photos? MudRunnerTD replied to an earlier post, but going to look at/buy tomorrow, just wanted some feedback and a photo of a set fitted if possible.

[Winnie]

Phil I've seen plenty of pictures of these wheels on a GQ, but of course now that I am looking I can't find one.
I like the look of them for what it's worth.

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[PeeBee]

Phil I've seen plenty of pictures of these wheels on a GQ, but of course now that I am looking I can't find one.
I like the look of them for what it's worth.

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Thanks Chris, I am going to trial fit tomorrow morning, as lomg as they dont foul on the brakes i will take them. trying to accumulate 10 of them for the Willwood Brake Upgrade thats in the pipeline - need 17" rims minimum, and don't want to go any larger as my max tyre size is 33", and really want as much sidewall for deflation when required.

[mudski]

Yep. Theres a mint GQ going around my way with these wheels on. GQ and GU are same/same wheel fitment wise. Just the offsets vary between user, for steelies anyway.

[mudski]

They actually look good on the GQ's too.

[PeeBee]

I thought there was a member on here in WA who had these wheels something like MD42TD??? maybe??

[mudski]

I thought there was a member on here in WA who had these wheels something like MD42TD??? maybe??

Yeah I think your right.

[PeeBee]

Yeah I think your right.

Flicked him a PM, will see if he has any photos of his rig.

[PeeBee]

OK, his pics are under Moneybucket, wheels look great, winner I reckon, unsure if 16 or 17" though.82393823948239582396

[mudski]

17's mate. Pretty sure, all the GUIV onwards alloy rims were 17's. I do know they came out in 17 inch so its a winner. They look nice on the GQ's.

[PeeBee]

17's mate. Pretty sure, all the GUIV onwards alloy rims were 17's. I do know they came out in 17 inch so its a winner. They look nice on the GQ's.

Going out this morning to pick them up, tyres are rooted but don't want them anyway. Photos look good on the reference vehicle. As long as they are not cracked or bent I am happy. Not buying them for the look as such, more the clearance on the new brake assy. Have to get the alloy rim nuts next.

[Winnie]

They do look good though. I think I have a full set of nuts to suit the gq alloys which may work for you? They are not doing me any good as I don't have the wheels now.

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[PeeBee]

They do look good though. I think I have a full set of nuts to suit the gq alloys which may work for you? They are not doing me any good as I don't have the wheels now.

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Great I will take them, what would you like in exchange, preferably above the waist!!!

[Winnie]

Great I will take them, what would you like in exchange, preferably above the waist!!!Nothing Phil you can have them. I will check tonight if it is a full set.

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[PeeBee]

Nothing Phil you can have them. I will check tonight if it is a full set.

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Thanks Chris, no hurry, have to get the tyres and brakes first.

[mudski]

I think, the GQ Nuts for the alloys are different to the GU nuts. The GQ have a shank on them from memory which go into the bolt eye of the rim. The GU's still use the conventional tapered nut. I'd have to look at the parts program to be sure though...

[Winnie]

I think, the GQ Nuts for the alloys are different to the GU nuts. The GQ have a shank on them from memory which go into the bolt eye of the rim. The GU's still use the conventional tapered nut. I'd have to look at the parts program to be sure though...That is definitely how the GQ ones work.

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[happygu]

PeeBee,

The later model 17" GU Alloys look great, but scratch up pretty quickly in the bush due to the flat face .... mine look a little ordinary now.
Just something to keep in mind if you are going to buy them....

[happygu]

17" GU Alloys definitely have a tapered nut with no shank.

I bought a pack of spare nuts from Patrolapart for my spares kit, so they should be easy enough to get. I don't remember them being too costly.

[PeeBee]

PeeBee,

The later model 17" GU Alloys look great, but scratch up pretty quickly in the bush due to the flat face .... mine look a little ordinary now.
Just something to keep in mind if you are going to buy them....

Thanks, these ones are barked up already and I am not looking at a pretty truck presentation, it gets scratched and pounded, and washed every 5 yrs if its lucky. Thanks for the heads up though.

[PeeBee]

OK, just rang PAP and the nuts they say to use are the ones with the taper on them, which are the same as the ones I have on the truck now, and have plenty of spares of, so Winnie, i think I am ok. I will try these first of course and come back if they are different. the guy i spoke with recommended the $3 nuts, not factory genuine at $6 each. They also have plenty of the 17" alloys in stock from pristine to barked up so i think I will head there for the top up set later on.

[MudRunnerTD]

Just make sure the taper is right Phil. Those GUIV Alloys were renowned for coming off. So much so that Nissan did a safety recall on them and added wheel nut cap markers like you see on the Mines to ensure owners noticed if the nuts where coming loose.

They are 17 x 8 with a +10 offset. They look pretty good painted Black too.

[PeeBee]

Just make sure the taper is right Phil. Those GUIV Alloys were renowned for coming off. So much so that Nissan did a safety recall on them and added wheel nut cap markers like you see on the Mines to ensure owners noticed if the nuts where coming loose.

They are 17 x 8 with a +10 offset. They look pretty good painted Black too.

Thanks Darren. Speaking with PAP today they were recommending the same nuts I have on my steel wheels, not even the Nissan nuts, but I will ring the local dealer tomorrow and ask the question and get the factory recommended part number, just to be sure. I was thi9nking about the black funny enough. but wonder how durable a painted black finish on aluminum will stand up and how much gouges will stick out black on silver - might run them silver first then mod it later - what finish is recommended - do you know or do they anodise finish the wheels?

I trial fitted one wheel and they do look good, sit in slightly under the flare line as well, instead of right on with the ones I have now.

[MB]

Hydro Dipping alloy rims with fully sick patterns for the Vic High Country is all the rage these days Philstar :-(
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/11/37.jpg



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[PeeBee]

Hydro Dipping alloy rims with fully sick patterns for the Vic High Country is all the rage these days Philstar :-(
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/11/37.jpg



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Do ya really think that is 'me'??????

[MB]

True true, save your money actually Brother, they’ll look the same soon enough anyways :-)


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[MB]

True story sorry Philstar!
My most favourite and widely used onboard tool and many others before in our VHC is a Mash Hammer [emoji106]

https://www.kincrome.com.au/club-hammer-grpht-1-8kg-4lb

This exact model (400mm) I’ve personally relied on for many years, older blokes with stronger arms tought get by with old school wooden handle shorter/lighter but far more aggressive swings on rims/guards/bars etc....:-)


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[Plasnart]

Thanks Darren. Speaking with PAP today they were recommending the same nuts I have on my steel wheels, not even the Nissan nuts, but I will ring the local dealer tomorrow and ask the question and get the factory recommended part number, just to be sure. I was thi9nking about the black funny enough. but wonder how durable a painted black finish on aluminum will stand up and how much gouges will stick out black on silver - might run them silver first then mod it later - what finish is recommended - do you know or do they anodise finish the wheels?

I trial fitted one wheel and they do look good, sit in slightly under the flare line as well, instead of right on with the ones I have now.

Phil, mate, use a flat cut alloy rim nut, not a chamfered steel rim nut for your alloy rims. Big friction increase.

Alloy nut:

82398

Steely nut:

82399

[MB]

Philstar, I honestly can’t thank you enough for the years of mechanical & electrical engineering assistance, you’re vast knowledge has always been my nuffy bush hack saving grace, really appreciated Mate [emoji3590][emoji106][emoji106]
Please let me guide you on maybe the only one thing I might have experience on (bad in fact) that alloy rims are Fair Dinkum dangerous in and out of our shared Victorian rocky tracks!
As mentioned today, alloys may or may not haunt you during track adventures but my experience of hairline cracks at highway speeds exploding soon after are enough for me to please pass on a horrible day near had :-(


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[PeeBee]

Philstar, I honestly can’t thank you enough for the years of mechanical & electrical engineering assistance, you’re vast knowledge has always been my nuffy bush hack saving grace, really appreciated Mate [emoji3590][emoji106][emoji106]
Please let me guide you on maybe the only one thing I might have experience on (bad in fact) that alloy rims are Fair Dinkum dangerous in and out of our shared Victorian rocky tracks!
As mentioned today, alloys may or may not haunt you during track adventures but my experience of hairline cracks at highway speeds exploding soon after are enough for me to please pass on a horrible day near had :-(


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Thanks Mark, perhaps i will save the alloys for my set of road tyres and secure a set of steelies for the bush. I can't see me taking a mash hammer to an alloy after bending a lip!

[PeeBee]

Phil, mate, use a flat cut alloy rim nut, not a chamfered steel rim nut for your alloy rims. Big friction increase.

Alloy nut:

82398

Steely nut:

82399

Thanks Plassy, I am going to call my Nissan dealer this morning to find out what their company recall was all about and what the company engineering decision was. I also need to have a closer look at the hole configuration in the rim to see if it it machined to suit a stepped nut such as this. Is the pic of the stepped nut off a GU alloy or the tri star GQ alloy?

[PeeBee]

Thanks Plassy, I am going to call my Nissan dealer this morning to find out what their company recall was all about and what the company engineering decision was. I also need to have a closer look at the hole configuration in the rim to see if it it machined to suit a stepped nut such as this. Is the pic of the stepped nut off a GU alloy or the tri star GQ alloy?

Rims are 100% configured for the Steely tapered nut, not flat face, just checked now.

[PeeBee]

Rims are 100% configured for the Steely tapered nut, not flat face, just checked now.

Just spoke with Nissan and first the spares manager said the rims needed to be run with flat faced nuts, however when I pointed out they are machined for taper nuts and there are witness marks where the taper nuts have been used, he then said, well, use taper nuts!!. He said there has never been a recall or service note on patrol rims or nuts, but there was a recall notice on Navara rims. he did say the patrols have an embedded harmonic issue and nuts have only ever come loose on the back LH wheel, so recommended the plastic telltale devices, and go with taper nuts.

[Plasnart]

Just spoke with Nissan and first the spares manager said the rims needed to be run with flat faced nuts, however when I pointed out they are machined for taper nuts and there are witness marks where the taper nuts have been used, he then said, well, use taper nuts!!. He said there has never been a recall or service note on patrol rims or nuts, but there was a recall notice on Navara rims. he did say the patrols have an embedded harmonic issue and nuts have only ever come loose on the back LH wheel, so recommended the plastic telltale devices, and go with taper nuts.

Fair enough mate, especially if the rims are machined for tapered nuts. The stepped nut I posted earlier was from my GU which had alloys without tapered holes.

[PeeBee]

Fair enough mate, especially if the rims are machined for tapered nuts. The stepped nut I posted earlier was from my GU which had alloys without tapered holes.

Damn confusing to say the least.

[MudRunnerTD]

Just spoke with Nissan and first the spares manager said the rims needed to be run with flat faced nuts, however when I pointed out they are machined for taper nuts and there are witness marks where the taper nuts have been used, he then said, well, use taper nuts!!. He said there has never been a recall or service note on patrol rims or nuts, but there was a recall notice on Navara rims. he did say the patrols have an embedded harmonic issue and nuts have only ever come loose on the back LH wheel, so recommended the plastic telltale devices, and go with taper nuts.

He is full of Sh1t mate. As a Registered Owner of a GUIV i can tell you there was a Service Campaign and a mail out to All Owners. The Telltales where available at service and upon request. i might have even got a set in the mail.

[MudRunnerTD]

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?1560-GU-Recall-Y61-Wheel-Nuts-for-Alloy-Wheels

He is Full of SHit

Note that thread is 2010. If he is a young bloke that knows everything maybe he was still in Primary school then.......

[PeeBee]

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?1560-GU-Recall-Y61-Wheel-Nuts-for-Alloy-Wheels

He is Full of SHit

Note that thread is 2010. If he is a young bloke that knows everything maybe he was still in Primary school then.......

His validation was as a Spares part manager, 35 yrs with Nissan, why would I suspect the info is incorrect. thanks for digging this up Darren. He did suggest the tell tales, which I will get in due course.

Can you recall if they were the flat style or the units with a tube body so they sit out a bit further from the rim? 19mm nut.

[MudRunnerTD]

His validation was as a Spares part manager, 35 yrs with Nissan, why would I suspect the info is incorrect. thanks for digging this up Darren. He did suggest the tell tales, which I will get in due course.

Can you recall if they were the flat style or the units with a tube body so they sit out a bit further from the rim? 19mm nut.

Scary that he has been there 35 years and was adamant that the service campaign / recall didnt happen. Disappointing. wonder what his position would be on the bubbling Dash fiasco....

Do you mean the telltales? They are a little plastic over cap that goes over the top of each nut. The telltale is the Nissan Logo embossed into the end. clip them over the nut and line the logos up so they are not big yellow jiggers. I didnt bother. I put grease on my studs an a torque wrench to 120nm and have never had a single nut loosen in 20 years.

[PeeBee]

Scary that he has been there 35 years and was adamant that the service campaign / recall didnt happen. Disappointing. wonder what his position would be on the bubbling Dash fiasco....

Do you mean the telltales? They are a little plastic over cap that goes over the top of each nut. The telltale is the Nissan Logo embossed into the end. clip them over the nut and line the logos up so they are not big yellow jiggers. I didnt bother. I put grease on my studs an a torque wrench to 120nm and have never had a single nut loosen in 20 years.

OK, we use these on site but apparently they dont tighten the wheel nuts as you drive along as we still have mining utes losing wheels!!! Might be a toyota thing??

[PeeBee]

This style
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/19mm-Dust-Cap-Wheel-Nut-Indicators-25-Pack-with-Tax-Invoice/293513119988?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item4456bec8f4:g:DO0AAOSwiIxfLqVk&amdata=enc%3AAQAFAAACcBaobrjLl8XobRIiIML1V4Imu%252 Fn%252BzU5L90Z278x5ickkvjzWOStkxwnlDuxSI1PVVqUG3TM QOe6N%252BqBhZrJCU%252F%252FnzF32R2W%252FaUNpPXiKe IRPkatu3LVdKGiVBI1a3FGKK4RAvaebpyHOUZZCuxyCqFTK334 %252FCduehIsi8Gb%252BmpOJvMEwEPkCNZK9Ffzb0yn1MGhzx d%252FD9nNxYXkQkCLtp%252F%252FdzkgXdO%252FZlkEuBhj 1LvGmlSAZzCglr%252Bvf9E82uJnD6ZutOQXvZxjtWLy0A5qG% 252FDTxBy%252FtjElJL1fjXOH1NqrU%252FigwsATyZfIHzKO ghuHi250ychr0KxKsDy5OIy8i9%252FDacdInCO12HAW1Ob6cL T3nuV%252BGgp4aLtDtHb4nIWQq14DkYaP3sTs%252F65M3R3n sbulQEQTt8hct%252FMTvobmdr7lAPM1yIGE4hNOSDh9NP3tzU WJZFfTawJZNLif18WTkwFFB225%252BfedLNY2ye6rkd1FqqER lw%252FSXrxWAyEokjXyO1fCX2Fk0IVkh%252BxYoz%252BZiB qMAjlSGo40iWLT864FZt1tF1Yw%252BhsuEGlAvCIykY4CvOqA QK%252Fdn94BWvkej%252FxdQX2DkYayb83V%252FsCij3DPaL 3g5aDch9l1nxadx5VGvKY4VfXF7FEWoUuo4QXU9zmmHV0L3euE fe5iPnDiYpDYl4cfhUQ7zqmiTrV9KP5xziqN38nALQ07j0Bjb8 Cdyvx%252BQs8w9PZYfKd1EgsmftdhHWire7HIq%252Bo01J9A bttDoW0jLTc3Ws85ogQiCIaitx5QGij%252FL%252FId3zWzKR 74FXUy0ImoL3taxoB1FvHx41FAdmT2Qkg%253D%253D%7Ccksu m%3A2935131199885a7d7918280245f9a90ac9c181b7eb92%7 Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2334524

Or this style
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Wheel-Nut-Indicator-19mm-x-25-Pack-with-Tax-Invoice/293480257692?hash=item4454c9589c:g:ur8AAOSwrxRfLqV v

[growler2058]

Scary that he has been there 35 years and was adamant that the service campaign / recall didnt happen. Disappointing. wonder what his position would be on the bubbling Dash fiasco....

Do you mean the telltales? They are a little plastic over cap that goes over the top of each nut. The telltale is the Nissan Logo embossed into the end. clip them over the nut and line the logos up so they are not big yellow jiggers. I didnt bother. I put grease on my studs an a torque wrench to 120nm and have never had a single nut loosen in 20 years.

Found these in the back of my 07 GU. This what ur talking about mate?
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=82403&stc=1

[PeeBee]

Yes they look like they might be the Nissan Nut solution!

[Avo]

Pritty sure mbtd42 has gu diffs n axles,

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[PeeBee]

Pritty sure mbtd42 has gu diffs n axles,

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Yes, I posted a few pics of his rig with the wheels on, looks really neat. I have a GQ with GQ axles, so the new alloys will sit just inside the flare line, which is fine also.

[NissanGQ4.2]

No Idea...but been a moderator I need 2 ask what Brothel in India are you referring 2 just in case I happen 2 visit India???

[MudRunnerTD]

Found these in the back of my 07 GU. This what ur talking about mate?
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=82403&stc=1

Yeah they are just plastic covers yeah. They go over the top of the wheel nuts.

[MudRunnerTD]

This style
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/19mm-Dust-Cap-Wheel-Nut-Indicators-25-Pack-with-Tax-Invoice/293513119988?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item4456bec8f4:g:DO0AAOSwiIxfLqVk&amdata=enc%3AAQAFAAACcBaobrjLl8XobRIiIML1V4Imu%252 Fn%252BzU5L90Z278x5ickkvjzWOStkxwnlDuxSI1PVVqUG3TM QOe6N%252BqBhZrJCU%252F%252FnzF32R2W%252FaUNpPXiKe IRPkatu3LVdKGiVBI1a3FGKK4RAvaebpyHOUZZCuxyCqFTK334 %252FCduehIsi8Gb%252BmpOJvMEwEPkCNZK9Ffzb0yn1MGhzx d%252FD9nNxYXkQkCLtp%252F%252FdzkgXdO%252FZlkEuBhj 1LvGmlSAZzCglr%252Bvf9E82uJnD6ZutOQXvZxjtWLy0A5qG% 252FDTxBy%252FtjElJL1fjXOH1NqrU%252FigwsATyZfIHzKO ghuHi250ychr0KxKsDy5OIy8i9%252FDacdInCO12HAW1Ob6cL T3nuV%252BGgp4aLtDtHb4nIWQq14DkYaP3sTs%252F65M3R3n sbulQEQTt8hct%252FMTvobmdr7lAPM1yIGE4hNOSDh9NP3tzU WJZFfTawJZNLif18WTkwFFB225%252BfedLNY2ye6rkd1FqqER lw%252FSXrxWAyEokjXyO1fCX2Fk0IVkh%252BxYoz%252BZiB qMAjlSGo40iWLT864FZt1tF1Yw%252BhsuEGlAvCIykY4CvOqA QK%252Fdn94BWvkej%252FxdQX2DkYayb83V%252FsCij3DPaL 3g5aDch9l1nxadx5VGvKY4VfXF7FEWoUuo4QXU9zmmHV0L3euE fe5iPnDiYpDYl4cfhUQ7zqmiTrV9KP5xziqN38nALQ07j0Bjb8 Cdyvx%252BQs8w9PZYfKd1EgsmftdhHWire7HIq%252Bo01J9A bttDoW0jLTc3Ws85ogQiCIaitx5QGij%252FL%252FId3zWzKR 74FXUy0ImoL3taxoB1FvHx41FAdmT2Qkg%253D%253D%7Ccksu m%3A2935131199885a7d7918280245f9a90ac9c181b7eb92%7 Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2334524

Or this style
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Wheel-Nut-Indicator-19mm-x-25-Pack-with-Tax-Invoice/293480257692?hash=item4454c9589c:g:ur8AAOSwrxRfLqV v

Yeah that is the concept but Nissan decided the big yellow arrows would look like junk on a new Patrol so they opted for the caps that Growler posted.

[PeeBee]

No Idea...but been a moderator I need 2 ask what Brothel in India are you referring 2 just in case I happen 2 visit India???

I originally put this post up and it landed right in the middle of all that brothel spam and one of the mods removed the post no doubt by mistake, hence the new title

[growler2058]

Yeah they are just plastic covers yeah. They go over the top of the wheel nuts.

Only enough for two wheels. So i reckon ill torque em up like you suggested ay

[MudRunnerTD]

Only enough for two wheels. So i reckon ill torque em up like you suggested ay

Or put them on every second wheel nut.

[PeeBee]

Has anyone got experience with these tyres. I am looking to replace the BFG MT KM2's. Frankly going to a 17" tyre in BFG is poison, circa $470 a tyre. These are 10ply rated, triple ply side wall, load rated 121 and LT construction. Also looking at the Kumho MT 71 at #310 a corner in LT285/70/R17 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2408806689422825
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[MudRunnerTD]

Hi Phil, The main reason i swapped out the 17s for 16s is the cost of the Tyres and availability in the bush. The later is not that big a deal these days but the price is appalling. I ran the Khumo KL71s for 2 sets and was Very Very happy with them overall. They were directional tread though which was a bi of an issue as they did not suit rotating the tyres. I had to pay for them to be stripped off the rims twice and spun around so i could run them on the alternate corners. but they wore well and had Great performance everywhere.Snow, Beach, Rock, Road. Great. And Cheap by comparison. Having to strip and swap a couple of times added cost to the tyre overall but not up front.

[PeeBee]

Hi Phil, The main reason i swapped out the 17s for 16s is the cost of the Tyres and availability in the bush. The later is not that big a deal these days but the price is appalling. I ran the Khumo KL71s for 2 sets and was Very Very happy with them overall. They were directional tread though which was a bi of an issue as they did not suit rotating the tyres. I had to pay for them to be stripped off the rims twice and spun around so i could run them on the alternate corners. but they wore well and had Great performance everywhere.Snow, Beach, Rock, Road. Great. And Cheap by comparison. Having to strip and swap a couple of times added cost to the tyre overall but not up front.

Thanks Darren, I have committed to the Kumho's now, and the tires will get fitted on thursday. My set of Kumho's back in the late 1980's were bloody rubbish, out of balance, uneven wear, crappy cheap donuts, but I am sure time has moved on. I would have also liked to stay with 16's but the new brakes require a 17" rim. Now, seems like you are getting snagged with the spelling of tire instead of tyre - which one is it - this spell check thing is doing my head in!

[MudRunnerTD]

Thanks Darren, I have committed to the Kumho's now, and the tires will get fitted on thursday. My set of Kumho's back in the late 1980's were bloody rubbish, out of balance, uneven wear, crappy cheap donuts, but I am sure time has moved on. I would have also liked to stay with 16's but the new brakes require a 17" rim. Now, seems like you are getting snagged with the spelling of tire instead of tyre - which one is it - this spell check thing is doing my head in!

100% the word is Tyre. I believe Tire is the yanky spelling

[PeeBee]

Picked up the new wheels and tyres today, happy with them, put the BFG's on Facebook and gone in 20 minutes - must have been too cheap!82464824658246682467

[Winnie]

Those tyres look nice and aggressive Phil. And the rims look great on your car, bit shiny though I do think down the track charcoal powder coat or similar would look grouse!

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[PeeBee]

Thanks Chris, the clear coat is just about gone on them, but still enough to make it difficult to lift their overall appearance. These are pretty rough GU 4 alloys, certainly not pretty boy by any means. I might look into a powder coat job down the track, however these have a few gouges so doubt they would come up all that well. At the end of the day 'form follows function ' so they may end up a lot worse for wear anyway. Not the lightest wheel either, probably heavier than the steel rims that came off it. The tyres are quite meaty in the flesh, only picked them from a brochure. Similar tread pattern to the BFG in some regards, but then most of the MT's are aren't they. Pushed for the LT version and has the triple side walls as well.