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Rock Trol
8th October 2017, 08:55 PM
Does anyone know of a good diesel specialist in the NE of Melbourne?
My patrol (3.0 crd) is blowing black smoke. I don't notice it from the cab except when taking off on a hill but people following me on trips all mention it.

I am am not sure if the injectors are on the way out or if it's caused by the remap l had done 3 years ago. Engine has done 180,000 km and the boost is fine (15-18 psi). The car runs well but not very clean.

Hodge
9th October 2017, 06:05 AM
Dieseltec in Lilydale
JPC in Thomastown


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Rock Trol
9th October 2017, 07:01 PM
Thanks Hodge. I will look them up.

Has anyone had any experience with Rankin Diesel in Bayswater? It's a little further out but maybe a go as well. Their reviews are good.

MB
9th October 2017, 07:18 PM
No personal experience with RD mate but they were truly very well regarded from old diesel mates years ago. I ran and serviced own old petrols on the cheap back then so never visited but would have I reckon from listening. Since converting to diesel circa 2005ish we've used Andy from Diesel Tec and happy for us tunes always.

Rossco
9th October 2017, 07:47 PM
Had experience with Rankin years ago and were very professional from memory.

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happygu
9th October 2017, 11:03 PM
Does anyone know of a good diesel specialist in the NE of Melbourne?
My patrol (3.0 crd) is blowing black smoke. I don't notice it from the cab except when taking off on a hill but people following me on trips all mention it.

I am am not sure if the injectors are on the way out or if it's caused by the remap l had done 3 years ago. Engine has done 180,000 km and the boost is fine (15-18 psi). The car runs well but not very clean.

I would say it will be the Remap, as it will be dumping more fuel in as part of the process....

PeeBee
10th October 2017, 02:25 AM
Have used Rankin twice, bit on the dear side but solid work. Found they also would only tune to factory specs, no dyno on site, so this could be a limiting factor - but it was a while ago, maybe they have changed?

mudski
10th October 2017, 09:27 PM
JPC, Diesel Tec as mentioned, 4x4 Solutions in Bundoora, 4x4 Obsession in Melton (they do a lot of Patrols), steer clear on Turbo Engineering in Thomastown.

Rock Trol
16th October 2017, 07:18 PM
Thanks for the info guys. The Patrol is due for a service so I will take it in to 4x4 Solutions and get them to take a look. They serviced the car last time.
They don't have a Dyno though so can't check the AFR.

Rock Trol
31st October 2017, 10:07 PM
Had the Patrol serviced at 4x4 Solutions. Everything checked out and they suggested it’s just over fueling due to the remap. Called JPC and they seemed pretty switched on. Need to find time to get the car over there for a dyno run. Not sure what they can do though. There may be an option to retune it with a unichip but would be very expensive.

mudski
1st November 2017, 07:40 AM
Just about to walk over to JPC now and pick my Patrol up...

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Rock Trol
1st November 2017, 07:27 PM
Just about to walk over to JPC now and pick my Patrol up...

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More POWER or just service?

Hodge
1st November 2017, 09:09 PM
Had the Patrol serviced at 4x4 Solutions. Everything checked out and they suggested it’s just over fueling due to the remap. Called JPC and they seemed pretty switched on. Need to find time to get the car over there for a dyno run. Not sure what they can do though. There may be an option to retune it with a unichip but would be very expensive.Hey Rock.
When I had my 3l crd I had unichip fitted and tuned at jpc. Transformed the car. Got rid of limp mode errors etc... Was well worth it. They also got rid of needle and Dawes and fitted up a wastegate and tuned to that too.
Sold the car 2 years ago and still know the guy who owns it . Never had a single issue yet. Runs great.

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Rock Trol
1st November 2017, 09:45 PM
Hey Rock.
When I had my 3l crd I had unichip fitted and tuned at jpc. Transformed the car. Got rid of limp mode errors etc... Was well worth it. They also got rid of needle and Dawes and fitted up a wastegate and tuned to that too.
Sold the car 2 years ago and still know the guy who owns it . Never had a single issue yet. Runs great.

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Thanks Hodge. That sounds very interesting. Could you adjust the boost easily with that set up?

They mentioned that they had used the unichip on remapped cars to adjust the fuel map down. Also they have multiple maps loaded so you can change them to suite the conditions. Also being able to tune on the dyno is a great benefit. The trouble with remaps on the Patrol is that you can’t program on the fly while on the dyno. It’s a bit of a guessing game.

Wish I had originally gone down the unichip route. I didn’t know too much about them at the time and thought they were just another chip that plugs in after the ecu and increases fuel pressure.

Hodge
2nd November 2017, 08:42 AM
Thanks Hodge. That sounds very interesting. Could you adjust the boost easily with that set up?

They mentioned that they had used the unichip on remapped cars to adjust the fuel map down. Also they have multiple maps loaded so you can change them to suite the conditions. Also being able to tune on the dyno is a great benefit. The trouble with remaps on the Patrol is that you can’t program on the fly while on the dyno. It’s a bit of a guessing game.

Wish I had originally gone down the unichip route. I didn’t know too much about them at the time and thought they were just another chip that plugs in after the ecu and increases fuel pressure.

I don't think boost was adjustable with the setup I had. Unless wastegate was adjustable in some way. But to me it was a set and forget thing. I never touched it. They tuned everything to 19PSI and that was it. Car behaved the best at that.

Prior to unichip, When my car originally went in, it had a needle and dawes setup. They then reverted that to factory setup and tuned unichip to that. Cant remember why.... Car came out driving good with better power etc... But the boost was back to the old shit factory setup. It was just yoyoing all over the place. I didnt like it, so back in it went , and they then fitted a wastegate re-tuned to that and after that the car was the best ive ever had it.

Also when you said "they have multiple maps loaded so you can change them to suite the conditions".
Do you mean the chip? If so it must be something new as mine was not user adjustable. It was a blank chip fully tuned to my car from scratch and locked away.

mudski
2nd November 2017, 08:52 AM
More POWER or just service?

Getting new hi flow injectors. Somehow my 35thou old ones were destroyed. Every single one of them were fubar. Even though I was still making 160rwkw, I knew something wasn't right, and for quite a while too. It would run out of puff earlier than I though t it should, quite smokey down low in the revs and hard on the gas. So Im hoping the feelings I had will be a distant memory when I pick it up. Was supposed to be yesterday, but, they spotted a small leak on the water rail for the cylinder head, so they were going to attend to this aswell so I said I will just pickup today.
Theres a mob on the eastern end of Settlement Rd also in Thomastown whom I will not name, do not use this guy. Tis all I will say.

Rock Trol
2nd November 2017, 09:01 PM
Thanks Mudski. I googled the place and will keep clear off them. Hope the injectors will work out this time.

Hodge, the new unichip is called th Q4. Not sure if it will work with a Patrol. It certainly looks the goods though. You can change the maps on the fly with a control module inside the cab. Mild to wild. You don’t need to have an aggressive tune al the time, only 2hen needed.

mudski
2nd November 2017, 09:05 PM
Thanks Mudski. I googled the place and will keep clear off them. Hope the injectors will work out this time.


Yeah the new squirters worked like a charm.

Rock Trol
7th November 2017, 09:00 PM
Dropped past JPC yesterday. They weren’t really open but a couple of the guys where there working on their own 4 wheel drives. Spoke to them about the problem and they told me that they had attempted to fix a remap previously with a unichip but it was not very successful. Also mentioned it could be injectors are not squirting correctly.

Back to square one. Get remap undone if possible or look st getting injectors tested/replaced. Both bloody expensive and not sure which one it is.