Installing WRX front mount intercooler with 3" pipe to GQ

[AB]

As some of you know I got a front mount wrx intercooler which I will be putting in shortly.

Still deciding if I should do this before or after simmo trip as I need to do a lot of cutting on the front and moving things around to make this fit.

Long story short should I even bother getting this retuned after its installed... Td42 gq, std ht18 td42t turbo and only at 10 psi.

Could get a little more out of it of course or am I just wasting my time and wait until money permits for other upgrades?

[MudRunnerTD]

mate given you are only running 10psi there is not really much point. if your not blowing black smoke then either fit hte cooler and get it tuned to 14psi or 15psi and be happy with 90rwkw or if you have never touched the pump you are likely running at around 70rwkw!

Its a big jump when in the hands of a decent tuner. get the IC on it and book it in mate, before the simmo would be better. You got nothing to do! get it done fella

[Winnie]

I would. Your pump is probably not maxed out yet and with the cooler you could do it safely... Take it to diesel tec without a doubt, I drove out of there with a 50% power increase from a tune.

[AB]

Thanks blokes, not even sure if I will have time before the trip but I do know that once I start pulling it apart I'm committed...lol

Just wasn't sure if I should waste $ on retuning that's all.

Anyways, conflicting answers...lol

[Winnie]

I know time is scarce but it will make a big difference to have it done for the trip.

[nissannewby]

It's not a necessity to get it done and will be fine if left as is with the intercooler.

However to get the most from it a tune would be beneficial. A little more boost and some extra fuel will prob see you net around a 20% gain the biggest improvement will be in torque. I will go against MR a little here and wouldn't exceed 12-13psi on a ht18. If you are gonna be loaded and even towing on the trip then the cooler and tune will make life a lot nicer.

[MudRunnerTD]

It's not a necessity to get it done and will be fine if left as is with the intercooler.

However to get the most from it a tune would be beneficial. A little more boost and some extra fuel will prob see you net around a 20% gain the biggest improvement will be in torque. I will go against MR a little here and wouldn't exceed 12-13psi on a ht18. If you are gonna be loaded and even towing on the trip then the cooler and tune will make life a lot nicer.

yeah but i'm a rebel! i have run my HT18 at 15psi for about 5 years and no real complaints. The temps can be a little sporadic but i keep an eye on it pretty well.

[nissannewby]

yeah but i'm a rebel! i have run my HT18 at 15psi for about 5 years and no real complaints. The temps can be a little sporadic but i keep an eye on it pretty well.

Wait until you get a better turbo :). Then you can run 25psi :).

[MudRunnerTD]

Wait until you get a better turbo :). Then you can run 25psi :).

I know i NEED to run 25psi, the bloody wife cant be convinced though damn it!!!

[nissannewby]

I know i NEED to run 25psi, the bloody wife cant be convinced though damn it!!!

Running the ht18 at higher pressure won't kill it straight away, it may shorten its life, by how much is infinitely variable. The problem with the ht18 is that once you start going above 12psi it really only starts to produce heat instead of usable dense air. This can be masked with a good intercooler but the turbo will still be outside of its efficiency range.

Sorry about getting all serious lol.

[AB]

This threads about me not you Dazz....lol

Good explanation thanks Matty.

[Winnie]

Shut up Andy... Lol

[AB]

Was thinking about running the intercooler pipes at 3" but spoke to a business within our industry who advised to only go 2.5" pipe.

Reason being you'll loose the compression.

I remember matty saying a minimum of 2.5" and with my limited knowledge would of thought 3" would be better????

I would of thought the entire set up would be compressed few seconds after start up and 3" would be better for more air flow in the intake surely?

[nissannewby]

With your setup Andy and what your wanting 2.5" will be more than enough. 2.5" will be easier to fit to with room constraints in the engine bay of a GQ especially if both batteries are still in the engine bay. 3" is better yes and a few people will run 2.5" on the hot side and 3" on the cold side it has to do with air speeds and volume etc. When you put air into a big chamber (intercooler) it slows down then you squeeze it back into a pipe it speeds up. So the idea of 3" on the cold side is to give you a nice volume of cold compressed air.

But as I said first 2.5" will be heaps for your setup and you will soon discover even 2.5 is quite tight.

[AB]

With your setup Andy and what your wanting 2.5" will be more than enough. 2.5" will be easier to fit to with room constraints in the engine bay of a GQ especially if both batteries are still in the engine bay. 3" is better yes and a few people will run 2.5" on the hot side and 3" on the cold side it has to do with air speeds and volume etc. When you put air into a big chamber (intercooler) it slows down then you squeeze it back into a pipe it speeds up. So the idea of 3" on the cold side is to give you a nice volume of cold compressed air.

But as I said first 2.5" will be heaps for your setup and you will soon discover even 2.5 is quite tight.

Thanks Matty, yeah I was concern running 3" with how tight everything is under the bonnet and just wanted to make sure this was done right so 2.5" will be far easier for me.

[AB]

I noticed its going to be relatively easy to run 3" on cold side so should I just do that whilst I'm installing it or just leave 2.5 on both?

The main issue is hot side due to aux battery, alternator, AC, etc....tight fit!!!!

[nissannewby]

Just leave the 2.5 on both, unless you plan on running a bigger turbo and pump in the near future.

[AB]

Just leave the 2.5 on both, unless you plan on running a bigger turbo and pump in the near future.

It's on the wish list...lol

[AB]

Just showed my brother the wrx intercooler and how perfect it fits into the entire grill of the gq.

He had strong concerns of it taken up the entire air flow to the radiator which I had concerns myself but now that he strongly recommends I don't do it I'm second guessing this...

Can anyone steer my back in the right direction or is this a major problem completely blocking off the entire grill???

Thoughts???

[MudRunnerTD]

Mate I would not has thought it was a big deal. The air will flow through it, then through the aircon condenser then to the radiator. This is the down side of a front mount but plenty of guys are running the biggest they could fit mate.

At worst you might get a slight increase on your water temp but if you only run the Nissan gauge then you will never know as the flat spot in the gauge is huge. The up side though is the Intake air temps will be reduced to combat that and the exhaust temps will be reduced and this equals performance!

That's my spin, interested to hear from Matty, this is my logic only

[nissannewby]

Put it on you girl. How many hundreds of cars including patrols have a front mount that covers that entire area. As with your radiator keep in clean and you will have no worries mate.

[MudRunnerTD]

Yeah ya big Gurl!!

[AB]

Put it on you girl. How many hundreds of cars including patrols have a front mount that covers that entire area. As with your radiator keep in clean and you will have no worries mate.

That's what I told him, nice...i just needed a kick, cheers you two muppets!!!!

[AB]

Matty...I'm wishing I had done this earlier mate. Following winnies egts on this trip the whole way was a huge eye opener of the difference in non intercooler versus intercooled.

My EGT'S did drop quick after hills but needed to drop back a gear a few times on long hills and even on flat roads was a solid 50 to 100 degree temp differences.

I am literally cleaning my car out this weekend and parking it in the shed to get this happening ASAP!!!

Absolute must do mod!!!

[MEGOMONSTER]

Matty...I'm wishing I had done this earlier mate. Following winnies egts on this trip the whole way was a huge eye opener of the difference in non intercooler versus intercooled. My EGT'S did drop quick after hills but needed to drop back a gear a few times on long hills and even on flat roads was a solid 50 to 100 degree temp differences. I am literally cleaning my car out this weekend and parking it in the shed to get this happening ASAP!!! Absolute must do mod!!!

Even the Pope gets it wrong sometimes.
Just put it on already.

[nissannewby]

I told you so...... :p

[threedogs]

What a great op to compare different set ups . for once a real time comparo
Plus I would imagine blew a few cobwebs away as well

[AB]

This is a big front mount!!!

[Winnie]

Perfect! The bigger the better.

[nissannewby]

Yep the more frontal area the better it should work :).

[AB]

The hot side looks like I can cut the hole where the bottom left light mount is and hug the pipe around under the arch where my fingers are pointing.

I'm confident it will be away from the tyre on full rotation and flexing as its snug in that corner but please let me know any concerns before I cut...lol

[AB]

The cold side is tricky...


I can cut hole on bottom right of light mount but will need to run a complex s shape to get to the inlet manifold.

An easy alternative would be to go a sharp 90 bend straight away and go up on angle above that mount with a slight S bend to the manifold.

Can I use a rubber 90 bend on the cold side like the below or is that a no no?

[Bloodyaussie]

I want to come and play with you....... as I am going to be a diesel man I need to start with the lingo !!!! ha ha..

[AB]

I want to come and play with you....... as I am going to be a diesel man I need to start with the lingo !!!! ha ha..

We have a secret handshake too...

[Bloodyaussie]

We have a secret handshake too...

All my petrol efi mates are going to black ball me.... hey I know I have asked this before but what is better and what is the difference to front and top mount inter cooler ??

[AB]

All my petrol efi mates are going to black ball me.... hey I know I have asked this before but what is better and what is the difference to front and top mount inter cooler ??

Matty will hopefully offer more sound advice but front mount gets fresh cold air which is also pushed through as you drive as opposed to a top mount that has engine heat, etc...

[nissannewby]

Use appropriate silicon or reinforced hose for boost applications. Grab some elbows from eBay, whatever you do don't get them from autobahn they are like 50% dearer than most other places.

[Winnie]

Matty will hopefully offer more sound advice but front mount gets fresh cold air which is also pushed through as you drive as opposed to a top mount that has engine heat, etc...

But a top mount is easier and will not get full of mud... There are ups and downs for each application and basically just do whatever is easy or cheaper for you after looking at which you prefer. I went top mount because it was available in a kit and I didn't like the idea of the front mount getting full of mud.
I would have either though!

[nissannewby]

Top mounts are ok and that is all. Getting airflow to a top mount is the biggest drama and then it sits directly on top of a heat source. Once the core gets heat soak it's very hard to get it out again therefore making the cooler less efficient. Probably the only real advantage to a top is the path is very short between turbo and manifold.

Front mounts will constantly be seeing cool air in most instances. While the path is a little longer you get the benefit of a muh more efficient item.

[nissannewby]

But a top mount is easier and will not get full of mud... There are ups and downs for each application and basically just do whatever is easy or cheaper for you after looking at which you prefer. I went top mount because it was available in a kit and I didn't like the idea of the front mount getting full of mud.
I would have either though!

But if the front mount is getting full of mud then what gets full of mud if you don't have one......

[AB]

Matty...sorry bud but I will probably have a hundred questions for you!!

I can run 3" on both sides which I know is useless on the ht18 but I know I will be getting a larger turbo and pump in the near future. I also have the 3" mandrel bends from the wrx ic and they will work a treat.

My question is will this be ok for the interim until
I can afford to upgrade it all?

[Bloodyaussie]

But if the front mount is getting full of mud then what gets full of mud if you don't have one......

Ha ha ha ha !!!! yeah Winnie..... get the question right and you win a new radiator !!!!!!!!!!

[AB]

This formation from the wrx works a treat!!!

[AB]

Awesome fit!!!

[nissannewby]

Matty...sorry bud but I will probably have a hundred questions for you!!

I can run 3" on both sides which I know is useless on the ht18 but I know I will be getting a larger turbo and pump in the near future. I also have the 3" mandrel bends from the wrx ic and they will work a treat.

My question is will this be ok for the interim until
I can afford to upgrade it all?

3" will be fine for the iterim mate. Certainly won't hurt it that's for sure I dare say it but I don't think the lag will be noticeable. Will you have it running today?

[AB]

3" will be fine for the iterim mate. Certainly won't hurt it that's for sure I dare say it but I don't think the lag will be noticeable. Will you have it running today?

No chance unfortunately mate. I just bought a 90 bend and some hose and only just got the cold side piping cut and ready to go.

I'm back to work tomorrow, holidays are over so I'm limited to weekends only now... :(

I just need another 90 bend and cold side is done. Ill get the extra parts I need this week and next weekend ill go again!

Pretty excited now that I'm confident in the paths...lol

[nissannewby]

Yeah even it's not as hard as everyone thinks is it?

Even without adding more fuel you should see a small benefit mostly in torque then you can pretty much max your current pump and enjoy :).

[Winnie]

And not having to back off on big hills =)

[AB]

Yeah even it's not as hard as everyone thinks is it?

Even without adding more fuel you should see a small benefit mostly in torque then you can pretty much max your current pump and enjoy :).

It's really not that bad hey...lol. Just need to think about it for a while thats all...I just sat back last night for a couple of hours to ensure the pathways will work and to best utilise the bends I have so there is now a solid plan!

The only tricky part to all this is once It's done the plastic guard will need a lot of cutting to get it back on. I wanted to just cut the black fins out of the grill but the bends coming out of the intercooler (bottom left and right) will stick past the grey part of the plastic grill and will look very mean, very custom and very inquisitive to onlookers that I do not want...

I'm just going to get this installed and maybe put some spaces on whatever I need to cut out on the grey plastic part of the grill to cover over the pipes, respray the entire grill in the same colour to make it all look standard just leaving the intercooler (black) hanging outside (30mm) the grill.

Slightly concerned about the High Mount not fitting but the entire intercooler will not exceed past the original Nissan badge so it should be ok.

I have done a last minute change and moved the entire intercooler up 25mm as I know the high mount will need room near the bottom of the bar where the drum comes up...

Should be ok....lol. I'm committed now!!!

[AB]

I just changed the thread title to this as It's now turning into my build thread...lol

[Winnie]

Slightly concerned about the High Mount not fitting but the entire intercooler will not exceed past the original Nissan badge so it should be ok.

You might be alright but one way to find out! I think most guys that mount a highmount to a regular ARB winch bar have to cut the grille. I'm sure you can work something out.

[AB]

You might be alright but one way to find out! I think most guys that mount a highmount to a regular ARB winch bar have to cut the grille. I'm sure you can work something out.

I have moved the intercooler as high as it will possibly go so I can at least pop the bonnet...lol

[Winnie]

I call dibs on the highmount if it doesn't fit... lmao

[Ben-e-boy]

I call dibs on the highmount if it doesn't fit... lmao

$2000 and it is yours

[Bloodyaussie]

I call dibs on the highmount if it doesn't fit... lmao

You stay away.... I have killed before!!!!

[Ben-e-boy]

You stay away.... I have killed before!!!!

I already have one and it was free

[MudRunnerTD]

I got dibs on the HiMount a loooooooong time ago choppa!!! Back in ya box!

Looks good AB, I am positive if your BA is a deluxe winch bar then you won't have to cut the grill mate, I have a spare here if it goes to crap.

[AB]

This has been the longest week in my life...lol

Pretty much laid in bed each night night thinking about this install (look over at clock...midnight...stop thinking AB...lol) and sneaking down the shed for quick looksies whilst the misses screams out for help with the baby...lmao

Long story short I needed some parts this week for reducer (3" to 2") to the old elbow on the inlet manifold for now until I can upgrade the system.

There is also an existing reducer from the wrx piping from 3" to 2" which ill use for the ht18 output but ill use a 45 degree long silicone bend coming up under the front left guard below the A/C so I can easily adapt to the larger turbo in due course.

I really got lucky with the existing bends...touch wood!

Needed a mandrel bend 90 for the cold side going up through the panel. I had one spare 90 left from the previous owner but it must of sat low on their wrx, deep scrape marks. they have also cut it on the actual bend which leaves no confidence in the clamp to hold on. paranoid ab sets in knowing the importance of a sealed system!!!

long story longer, my local exhaust shop had one in scrap for 10 bucks, happy days!

Yarra valley exhausts...really good honest business!

Long weekend coming as I still need to clean up the shitty welds someone has done on the existing piping, clean old pipes out properly, spray pipes, cut panels and pray my calculations are correct!

[Winnie]

I love your enthusiasm, can I have some?

[Bloodyaussie]

This has been the longest week in my life...lol

Pretty much laid in bed each night night thinking about this install (look over at clock...midnight...stop thinking AB...lol) and sneaking down the shed for quick looksies whilst the misses screams out for help with the baby...lmao

!

I know that feeling all to well at the moment mate...... I wake in the middle of the night and start going over crap in my head.

Hey can I pop over on Saturday?? do you think Rossco will let me drive his car?

[AB]

I know that feeling all to well at the moment mate...... I wake in the middle of the night and start going over crap in my head.

Hey can I pop over on Saturday?? do you think Rossco will let me drive his car?

No probs mate, you'll know where ill be...

If rosscos not home I'm sure he won't mind us going for spin in his gq...lol

[AB]

Only got the cold side done today!!!


I won't lie, frigging nightmare job getting this to work!!!

I had to change my original idea but it worked out in the end.

From the intercooler side, 90 bend to a long 45 then another 90 bend up to the wrap around piping but it was a shit of a job to be honest.

I had the pipes nicely sprayed and scratched the hell out of it taken it all on and off a hundred times to cut bend warp etc.

Anyways...job done!

Just used a reducer for the standard inlet manifold elbow for now until money permits for an upgraded system.

Did I mention this intercooler is ridiculously big!!?

Going to be a fun job getting the grill to work!

Hot side should be ten times easier!

[megatexture]

Oh this isn't finished yet? Lol
looking good mate and yep you will be pulling hair out getting the grill on and I dare say a dremel will be your friend here lol

[AB]

Oh this isn't finished yet? Lol
looking good mate and yep you will be pulling hair out getting the grill on and I dare say a dremel will be your friend here lol

It's a real crap double s shape to get that in. Safe to say there was a lot of cursing and frustration which may have had led to some of the scratches...lol

[megatexture]

And skin off the hands I bet lol

[mudski]

Looking good AB, it would be interesting to see before and after Dynos of something like this just to see what you get out of the box before you can ramp up the boost.
I don't know which way I will go in front or top mount when I get around to the TD conversion. I know front is more effective but top I have the room.

[AB]

Looking good AB, it would be interesting to see before and after Dynos of something like this just to see what you get out of the box before you can ramp up the boost.
I don't know which way I will go in front or top mount when I get around to the TD conversion. I know front is more effective but top I have the room.

Probably not a great deal mtae with the HT18, I'll see how much I can wind it up but for the interim I'm keen to see the EGT differences.

[Ben-e-boy]

Probably not a great deal mtae with the HT18, I'll see how much I can wind it up but for the interim I'm keen to see the EGT differences.

Your pyro's were really low anyway, that was evident driving back to your house from Yarra Glen.

[AB]

Your pyro's were really low anyway, that was evident driving back to your house from Yarra Glen.

Yeah they aren't bad for a non IC set up hey...

Comparing Winnies though was an eye opener on our trip though.

Hopefully get time today to finish off the hot side and start working on trying to mount this thing and get cracking on the grill!!!!

[AB]

Ill go for a drive up to kinglake to compare the difference.

That's that long ass hill that keeps going and going.

In 4th I always hit 500 near the top as it started to lag near the end and I used to drop it back to third a few hundred metres before the top so that'll be a good comparison test hill.

[Winnie]

Perfect test hill by the sounds of it. Have you finished then?

[AB]

I have only just had a chance to get down the shed now Winnie. I'm not like you, on holidays, no kids, no responsibilities...lol

Ok I have come to a slight halt and need advice please!!!!

The output elbow for the ht18 is an equilateral triangle and I was planing on simply rotating anticlockwise in the direct path of the piping for intercooler hot side, perfect...no

I knew it would be close but it hits the actuator.

So I have two solutions

The actuator is held on by itself welded to a plate which has two bolts to the turbo.

1) DARREN and I had quick chat on phone and was going to simply loosen bottom bolt, drill a bit out on the top hole of the plate to rotate it outwards a bit.

The arm that switches the release has a bit of play which would work but after loosening the bolts there is not enough plate nor not enough rotating to get it clear.

At a guess I need the actuator approx 10mm going down.

So I could possibly take the whole actuator out and at a guess there should be enough plate to drill the holes out a bit to move the whole thing down a bit.

2) I still have a full 180 degree mandrel bend 2" pipe I could simply leave it as normal path and put the 180 bend on to get back down to where I want it to go.

Is this creating a too long of piping length to the engine?

Keeping in mind this only a 6 month temporary install so when the bigger turbo gets put on it will all change for the better of course.

Any help gents???

Would of been great if I could somehow put a spacer on that elbow where the gasket sits!!

[AB]

I'm leaning towards taking it off, drilling out the holes a bit and dropping the actuator bugger it!!!

Does anyone know how to get the arm off from the turbo side that does the actuation? Just take the clip off and that pin comes out or?

[AB]

Spoke to Matty and he agrees so off with the actuator next weekend!!!

Apparently the arm is spring loaded and is a bit of a pita to get back on, fun times ahead!!!

[warner01]

I wouldnt be to worried by a longer pipe length AB it wont hurt anything especially if its only temp till the next turbo goes on. Some people in cars with no room have run turbos behind the diff and have pipe from there foward and apparently they work pretty good. im sure someone will tell me im wrong but a longer line shouldnt have much of an affect on lag or boost and it will help with cooling a little. The only down side i see is itl go from 2inch to 3inch but as said its only a temp fix. id save some of the hard design for the new turbo. Thats my 3 1/2 cents. Great now im poor.

[AB]

I wouldnt be to worried by a longer pipe length AB it wont hurt anything especially if its only temp till the next turbo goes on. Some people in cars with no room have run turbos behind the diff and have pipe from there foward and apparently they work pretty good. im sure someone will tell me im wrong but a longer line shouldnt have much of an affect on lag or boost and it will help with cooling a little. The only down side i see is itl go from 2inch to 3inch but as said its only a temp fix. id save some of the hard design for the new turbo. Thats my 3 1/2 cents. Great now im poor.

I was thinking the same mate. I don't think moving the actuator will be too hard though so I'll have a go first and if all else fails, plan B....

[AB]

Or would something like this be easier????

Ill have a look tonight and see if even a straight pipe will still hit it...

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Turbo-Compressor-Outlet-Adapter-Flange-2-Nissan-TD42-Hitachi-HT18-Turbocharger-/271536337748?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f38d3b354

[AB]

Or would something like this be easier????

Ill have a look tonight and see if even a straight pipe will still hit it...

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Turbo-Compressor-Outlet-Adapter-Flange-2-Nissan-TD42-Hitachi-HT18-Turbocharger-/271536337748?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f38d3b354

Just checked and this flange will still hit the wastegate damn it!!!

Also was told today that the actuator arm needs to be exactly 90 degrees coming out from the wastegate so ill see how it sits once moved but may need to bend the rod a bit.

[AB]

Unfortunately slow steps in this thread due to lack of time during the week.

Removed the wastegate. That actuator arm is spring loaded and in a crappy spot.

Can't wait to force the spring loaded arm back on this weekend!!!

[AB]

Only got a chance today to work on it but success at last!!!

Apologies for crappy photos, getting dark...

[AB]

Hot side worked out perfect...


Now...don't laugh...the outlet from the ht18 is only 40mm....tiny!!! Then trying to ramp that up to a 3" pipe!!!

So after rotating the ht18 outlet elbow around I noticed the original cross over pipe has the exact bend I wanted and the cross over itself goes from 40mm up to 2". It fitted perfect, missed everything and ended up exactly where I wanted it, hugging the panel, missed everything and matches up to the 3" to 2" 45 degree reducer!!!

It will do for now until I can upgrade everything.

Anyways, I stuffed around for a couple of hours trying to move the wastegate down to allow the elbow to fit!!! I am confident in saying this cannot be done unless you weld on a plate as you just need an extra 10mm of plate.

So before I threw the wastegate through my shed window I decided to get a plate welded on during this week and all done.

Just need to mount the intercooler to the body and fit the grille back on which will be fun...lol

Haven't bolted the clamps on below photos yet, few little tweaks with the hoses but its working!!!!

[growler2058]

Looking good mate, pity about the CRAP foter hahahahhaa

[Winnie]

Good work AB!!

[AB]

New plate done!!!

[nissannewby]

New plate done!!!

So why is this not running yet :p

[AB]

So why is this not running yet :p

Ask me this time tomorrow...lol

Too cold for the shed dude, it's icey as hell down here!!!

[nissannewby]

Ask me this time tomorrow...lol

Too cold for the shed dude, it's icey as hell down here!!!

With those sort ambient temps you could feed it some serious fuel :)

[MudRunnerTD]

You need a potbelly in your shed AB.

[AB]

With those sort ambient temps you could feed it some serious fuel :)

Wastegate: for such a simple modification it's been a pita to be honest.

I'm also going to have to spend a bit of time bending that arm to make sure it not only fits but is correct placement for the actuation if that makes sense...

[AB]

You need a potbelly in your shed AB.

Yeah man I have that searched saved in eBay and they are just fetching prices for shitty old ones that I just can't afford right now damn it.

I just rug up mate, it's not that bad but tonight is the coldest I have felt up here in a while..lol

[MudRunnerTD]

Yeah man I have that searched saved in eBay and they are just fetching prices for shitty old ones that I just can't afford right now damn it.

I just rug up mate, it's not that bad but tonight is the coldest I have felt up here in a while..lol


That's cause it's Farking Snowing bloke!!!! Damn cold!! Yeah bad time to buy the pot belly, top dollar this time of year.

[AB]

I am never adjusting a wastegate ever ever ever again!!!!

Getting that arm into the correct position in the right part of the actuation tension is a frigging nightmare!!!

Long story short you need to extend the arm 15 mm and put a new plate on.

Trial and error near killed me but its done!!!

[nissannewby]

So its running?

[AB]

So its running?

It's a beautiful thing!!!

[AB]

All plumbed ready to go!!!


Matty, I need longer pressure hose from turbo to wastegate, wtf!!!!

I'm 20mm short as I've lowered it down a fair bit...lol

So I can't start it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[nissannewby]

Bloody oath you can start it. Just watch your boost gauge.

It only needs to be small vac tube even some fuel line if you have some floating around. Just block it where it comes out of compressor outlet.

[Winnie]

Awesome work Andy, reckon you'll get a drive in tomorrow?

[AB]

Bloody oath you can start it. Just watch your boost gauge.

It only needs to be small vac tube even some fuel line if you have some floating around. Just block it where it comes out of compressor outlet.

My fuel line is too big and I can't find any small clamps to atleast block the original hose.

How strong is the pressure?

Improvise!?????

I'm keen to gaffer tape my aerials and light bar and test this puppy out...lol

Winnie mate...100% tomorrow drivable worst case.

[AB]

Sorted...lmao

[AB]

The previous owner of the turbo used no clamps but had the hose cut exactly maximum fit inbetween the two barbs so I have no clamps unfortunately.

Anyways as much as this sux I need to head up to the house. My turn for kids!!!!!!

Tomorrow gents tomorrow 100%

[MudRunnerTD]

How much pressure?? Boost = PSI = Pressure. 12lb about bud ;)

[nissannewby]

How much pressure?? Boost = PSI = Pressure. 12lb about bud ;)

Psi= Pounds per Square Inch.

So the less surface area inside the said hose/pipe etc the less pounds applied :). This is why you can get away with no clamps for things like boost gauges lines

[Rossco]

Nice work AB, coming together well. . . . Time to start hack'n that grill :)

[rusty_nail]

Nice work AB, coming together well. . . . Time to start hack'n that grill :)

Haha love this rossco. Now because of the forum, you don't need to be the dutiful neighbor and get dragged into helping when u don't want to. You can just check on progress on forum and if it's too much effort claim you never saw the ask for help! Haha

[Rossco]

Haha love this rossco. Now because of the forum, you don't need to be the dutiful neighbor and get dragged into helping when u don't want to. You can just check on progress on forum and if it's too much effort claim you never saw the ask for help! Haha

Ha Ha, TOATS, kind of backfires when I need a hand tho. . . :(

[AB]

Nice work AB, coming together well. . . . Time to start hack'n that grill :)

And a lot of hacking will be needed that's for sure!!!!

[AB]

Engine on


No blow outs yet...lol

Time to drive!!!

[nissannewby]

Engine on
No blow outs yet...lol

Time to drive!!!

And.............

[Ben-e-boy]

And.............

It is now upside down and on fire

[AB]

Ok good news and bad news..

Egts are a lot down, took it up a ridiculous long hill that I used to get 520 + and I got to 400, happy days and then it dropped back really quick, amazingly quick!!!

I have lost 4 pound of boost though, set at 9 and now I'm only getting 5. Checked everywhere and there are no leaks. I don't have any clamps on the wastegate hose do maybe that but speaking to Matty could very well be the ridiculous size piping and tiny turbo now so will clamp that, get it tuned up and should be good to go until I can upgrade!

Happy with the temps though and I have just won $100. My brother reckoned I would cook the engine going up Yarra glen hill to home, temps did not even move...lol

[Ben-e-boy]

Does the waste gate actuator adjust ie can you unscrew the arm?

[AB]

Does the waste gate actuator adjust ie can you unscrew the arm?

Yes you can and I think you might be on the money there too. I tried to not rotate it whilst modifying it and getting this on but it could of moved slightly.

Would adding extra 15mm to the rod itself put more pressure on the spring load itself hence the loss of pressure?

[AB]

Yep, thinking about this more I don't think there's enough preload on the arm. I remember there was a whisker tension when I removed it.

Ill see what I can do during the week.

Is this what you are thinking Benny???

[Ben-e-boy]

Yes.. add some more preload to it.

[AB]

Yes.. add some more preload to it.

That means I have to take it off...sad...very sad panda!!!!

[AB]

Does anyone know which direction moves the arm in or out?

Standing in front of the car looking parallel towards the arm is it clockwise or anticlockwise?

[Ben-e-boy]

Wind it in. It will now be harder to attach to the waste gate or the arm is going to be shorter

[AB]

I'm not even sure why I said it had an adjuster on the arm, it doesn't!!!

I'm going to have to take it off, carefully bend it to suit the right preload and try that again.

I'm almost positive this is the cause and to get this in the right spot is going to be a nightmare!

Almost tempted to cut it off and weld on a thread to adjust it perfectly.

Fun times ahead, once again!!!

[AB]

For anyone wanting to know I just found out the correct preload tension is half a hole back.

[nissannewby]

For anyone wanting to know I just found out the correct preload tension is half a hole back.


So boost is up?

[AB]

So boost is up?

What do you mean?

[AB]

I know what you mean now...


Nah mate I'm at work and will not get to play around until next weekend unfortunately.

[AB]

Finally some good news.


Just took off actuator arm and its definitely sitting 1mm too forward.

It was ever so slightly keeping it open or opening as soon as any level of pressure came in.

I'm going to borrow my brothers oxy and get it about 3 to 4mm back so there's enough preload.

More bad news is the highmount will not fit where the ic currently sits.

This is a monster, but...

I have a few options on that...

Take off thermo and bonnet support, push it back further or I'm going to double check but it may just fit under where it is currently but need to check it properly.

If anyone can confirm exact measurement if they have a highmount on a gq arb deluxe bar then let us know as that would be a mammoth help!!!

[MudRunnerTD]

The Himount is 220mm deep front to back AB.

[AB]

The Himount is 220mm deep front to back AB.

Yeah I know I was more interested in how it sat and how high it protruded up from the top plate and the height of the curve at the top and a few other things...lol

Believe it or not its so tight that the curve at the top may just curve away enough...

It's going to be damn close to sit actually under the ic.

Real close looking at my highmount and if someone had one installed on a gq arb deluxe to confirm exactly how it sits I could get away with not doing anything.

I can move it back to the aircon but to get that to work I need to relocate the pipe for aircon that runs up the left hand side which is annoying.

[MudRunnerTD]

Yeah I know I was more interested in how it sat and how high it protruded up from the top plate and the height of the curve at the top and a few other things...lol

Believe it or not its so tight that the curve at the top may just curve away enough...

It's going to be damn close to sit actually under the ic.

Real close looking at my highmount and if someone had one installed on a gq arb deluxe to confirm exactly how it sits I could get away with not doing anything.

I can move it back to the aircon but to get that to work I need to relocate the pipe for aircon that runs up the left hand side which is annoying.

From the middle of the top mounting hole on your bar tot the top of the winch is 218mm. The radius of the upper housing is 110mm

[MudRunnerTD]

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You should be ale to get everything you need from that diagram.

[AB]

Ill have to double check in the light thanks mate...fingers crossed!!!

[AB]

From the middle of the top mounting hole on your bar tot the top of the winch is 218mm. The radius of the upper housing is 110mm

I think it's just going to hit doing rough measurements. Ill double check on the weekend.

Ill sort out the actuator then move it back.

[AB]

In theory would one expect higher egts if they had a boost leak or the wastegate was slightly open all the time?

Less air, less boost, making it run more rich?

Not comparing my non ic to ic just a question in general...

If the lever on the wastegate arm was correct and holding correct boost then one should expect lower egts then if it was half open surely?

[krbrooking]

Looks good Andy. Sounds like you have been having fun.

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[nissannewby]

In theory would one expect higher egts if they had a boost leak or the wastegate was slightly open all the time?

Less air, less boost, making it run more rich?

Not comparing my non ic to ic just a question in general...

If the lever on the wastegate arm was correct and holding correct boost then one should expect lower egts then if it was half open surely?

If boost was down then yes as you say it will be richer and slightly higher egts. But you could run no boost in your setup and egts should fine.

If I get the chance one time I would like to check egts on a na engine I think it would be quite surprising.

[AB]

If boost was down then yes as you say it will be richer and slightly higher egts. But you could run no boost in your setup and egts should fine.

If I get the chance one time I would like to check egts on a na engine I think it would be quite surprising.

That would be interesting actually!

[Winnie]

Doesn't kallen have an EGT gauge on his?

[nissannewby]

Doesn't kallen have an EGT gauge on his?

No. He has purchased a cheapo gauge but I dont believe he has fitted it. If he sees this it would be cool if he could and post some results.

[AB]

Hey westy if you see this mate I would also be very keen to read your egts too bud if you get a chance???

[AB]

Finally!!


Boost back up to normal, feeling more power then previous, egts have dropped, it's all coming together, thank bloody god!

I'm done gents and one happy camper!

Getting this tuned properly and it will be a weapon for now until i can upgrade later on!!

[Winnie]

That's great news Andy! Can't wait to see it

[nissannewby]

Finally!!

Boost back up to normal, feeling more power then previous, egts have dropped, it's all coming together, thank bloody god!

I'm done gents and one happy camper!

Getting this tuned properly and it will be a weapon for now until i can upgrade later on!!

When you get it tuned ask them to put some timing into it.

[AB]

When you get it tuned ask them to put some timing into it.

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[Ben-e-boy]

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Advance your injection timing

[Winnie]

Advance your injection timing

Why???????

[AB]

That's great news Andy! Can't wait to see it

Yeah it umm looks very mad max style at the moment...lol

It sticks 80mm out from the thermos which will sit well beyond the grille. The bends coming out from ic are the same too...lol

I know a very good custom bloke close to home who is a well known for his welding.

I'm tempted to modify my deluxe arb bar to accommodate the highmount tapered higher so I don't loose any approach angle and keep my thermo and not move the ac piping.

[Ben-e-boy]

Why???????

Because Newby said so

[nissannewby]

Why???????

Like ben said cos I said so :p

Advancing it starts injection sooner so more fuel in earlier which can help with getting the turbo fired up. It will also aid in driveability and power.

[AB]

Also for what it's worth...


I actually moved the rod back 5mm not 3-4.

That setting was spot on, exactly as previously set.

[Clunk]

Nice one...... So ave you fitted the grill yet?

[AB]

Nice one...... So ave you fitted the grill yet?

Yeah...lol

Lets just say that there will not be much grille to put on so to speak.

The ic is black, the piping is black and I am going to spray the grille black to try and create a lack of depth in the ridiculous amount of objects that will be protruding from the grille...lol

[Bloodyaussie]

Pics or it didn't happen. ..

[AB]

Also for what it's worth...

I actually moved the rod back 5mm not 3-4.

That setting was spot on, exactly as previously set.

Quoting my own posts here...lol

It was actually over 50% of the actuator limit which scared me a bit but I have just spent the last hour flogging my car up and down hills, no spikes, max boost as previously set, happy days!

[AB]

Pics or it didn't happen. ..

...........

[Bloodyaussie]

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Right back at ya!!!

[Clunk]

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Right back at ya!!!

Jeez you guys have got stubby fingers

[AB]

Jeez you guys have got stubby fingers

Looking at our photos I look like ET phone home and ba is the missing link... Lol

[Clunk]

All the better for picking your nose with

[AB]

So getting back on track there must be a very fine line in holding that arm back enough to hold more boost without too much where it can't release causing spikes and potential damage yeah?

Considering I pushed an extra mm or two in the recommendation I was told.

[krbrooking]

Good to hear Andy bet you are happy it is done.

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[Rossco]

Good work, took a fair bit of perseverance but sounds like it came up well in the end.

Thinking I might start farting round with my high mount this weekend if you want to compare it to your set up with the'"IC".

[AB]

Good work, took a fair bit of perseverance but sounds like it came up well in the end.

Thinking I might start farting round with my high mount this weekend if you want to compare it to your set up with the'"IC".

Sounds good mate, ill give you a buzz...

[Winnie]

Just put up a photo already!

[AB]

The grille is going to be fun...lol

[nissannewby]

You need more boost.

[AB]

You need more boost.

I need to get this grille back on pronto so I can have indicators and drive to DieselTec asap!!!!

[Rossco]

There's indicators in the bar.

[AB]

There's indicators in the bar.

Not wired up

That's an option though for sure

[krbrooking]

Yeh I think leave it like that it looks sweet. Lol

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[megatexture]

You would need indicators that are visible from the side also, if you added some little marker lights you could leave it like that.

[MudRunnerTD]

Don't do the grill until the HiMount is done mate and do the grill once

[AB]

Don't do the grill until the HiMount is done mate and do the grill once

The indicators on the bar have different plugs as well.

I'm still trying to work out what to do actually. I might make a cardboard template up of the top part of the winch to see exactly what my options are.

[MudRunnerTD]

Cut the wires going to the plugs and splice some tails in long enought to run down to your bar. Get them working make. It's actually not legal to have indicator lenses that don't function. If the bar has them they must be wired for roadworthy.

Get it done anyway mate.

[AB]

Ok....Just checked out Rossco's bar and rang Gary and I am happy to announce my bull bar sux!!!

From the front plate to the AC condenser is 270mm.

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Mine looks like an ARB Delux Bar as above but it is a winch bar, not sure whats going on there.




Rosscos is the ARB delux winch bar as shown below and is 315mm from plate to AC. Loads more room and will fit the highmount no probs!

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And Gary's is the ARB Commercial bar which is a massive 400mm clearance!!!

If anyone finds an ARB Deluxe winch bar for sale please let me know...lol...Or swap for my awesome one!!!!

[Bloodyaussie]

So is mine....

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x260/jpgpz/20130915_133116_zpsab61557d.jpeg (http://s184.photobucket.com/user/jpgpz/media/20130915_133116_zpsab61557d.jpeg.html)

[AB]

So is mine....



Yep, that's the bar I need...swap?....lol

[MudRunnerTD]

Yeah think I mentioned to you once before that I thought your looked a little odd mate and was not sure if it was a delux bar or not?? Not sure even if it is a winch bar to be honest.

You are right the delux bar is the one Jonny has posted and the commercial bar has a bigger nose again and is the bar listed for the high mount.

Yours would be perfect for someone wanting to fit a HiMount without a front mount intercooler and the snuggest fit possible for the tightest approach angle.

[MudRunnerTD]

I am happy to supply you with a decent brand new Runva low mount with rope to swap for your HiMount mate.... I'm your man!

[macca86]

I just keep hearing excuses! Why not fit everything then built a custom tube bar around it! I'd offer to help but I can't weld I've heard

[AB]

Yeah think I mentioned to you once before that I thought your looked a little odd mate and was not sure if it was a delux bar or not?? Not sure even if it is a winch bar to be honest.

You are right the delux bar is the one Jonny has posted and the commercial bar has a bigger nose again and is the bar listed for the high mount.

Yours would be perfect for someone wanting to fit a HiMount without a front mount intercooler and the snuggest fit possible for the tightest approach angle.

It's factory winch though which is strange.

Yeah the approach angle is great, really great bar Johnathon...lol

[MudRunnerTD]

Should have asked Gary to swap mate! Although I have seen his take some big hits! We call his the Grader Blade mate

[Bloodyaussie]

It's factory winch though which is strange.

Yeah the approach angle is great, really great bar Johnathon...lol

Yeah its a good bar isn't it. .. I was going to get rid of it but Darren convinced me to keep it. ..lol

[AB]

Should have asked Gary to swap mate! Although I have seen his take some big hits! We call his the Grader Blade mate

Looking at rosscos deluxe winch bar he will prob need to take off the nissan badge for a snug fit of the highmount.

My bar is 40mm shorter so you would have to hack into the grille a little bit so not sure he would be keen on that...

[AB]

Yeah its a good bar isn't it. .. I was going to get rid of it but Darren convinced me to keep it. ..lol

Darren doesn't know what he's talking about, get rid of that junk mate...lol

[MudRunnerTD]

Yeah for sure you need to loose the Nissan badge but you don't have to cut the grill.

Find a new bar I reckon AB

[MudRunnerTD]

Yeah I'm a dribbling idiot. Swap it out mate. What were you going to buy Jonno

[Bloodyaussie]

Yeah I'm a dribbling idiot. Swap it out mate. What were you going to buy Jonno

Traitor. .... I was going to go a comp style bar.... I like winnies bar the most.

[MudRunnerTD]

Wi my has the Millweld which looks pretty good. Would be good to keep the scrub bars though. Millweld should be able to fit the ARB scrub bars to their bar work I'd reckon.

Or AB should hit Millweld up to be forum sponsors and do him a deal on some bar work.

I reckon my FAT bar is a killer and the best looking tube bar made by a long way but you can't get them any more!

Cheezy had just entered the market again and might do you a front bar, he is doing front bars again with integrated driving /fog lights.

[AB]

Wi my has the Millweld which looks pretty good. Would be good to keep the scrub bars though. Millweld should be able to fit the ARB scrub bars to their bar work I'd reckon. Or AB should hit Millweld up to be forum sponsors and do him a deal on some bar work. I reckon my FAT bar is a killer and the best looking tube bar made by a long way but you can't get them any more! Cheezy had just entered the market again and might do you a front bar, he is doing front bars again with integrated driving /fog lights. Regardless I'll move the IC right back and see how I go. As discussed the option is also there to move condenser back as well which isn't hard and keep everything the same or put a new or new/second bar on and flog off this one off.

[Rossco]

Had a quick look for ARB bars on Ebay, didn't find any on there ATM. Jono's would work out well if he wants to go that way. Is yours definitely an ARB? It could be a copy of a non winch ARB with cut outs and bolt holes perhaps?

[Winnie]

Maybe it's just a really early ARB bar? If not it's a bloody good copy! You have to convince johnny that his bar is no good and that he needs to upgrade bwahaha

[Bloodyaussie]

The only way I would get rid of my bar is if I could get the same as Winnies as I can keep my scrub bars otherwise its worth too much to me.

Hey Andy my bar is off at the moment sitting around the side of the house is there anything you need measured while its off??

[Winnie]

I looked on mud rhino about 6 months ago and there were about 3 bars like mine for sale.

[AB]

The only way I would get rid of my bar is if I could get the same as Winnies as I can keep my scrub bars otherwise its worth too much to me.

Hey Andy my bar is off at the moment sitting around the side of the house is there anything you need measured while its off??

Thanks bud I should be ok though. I just need to find a bar like yours...lol

It doesn't need to happen tomorrow so if anyone finds one let us know.

Winnie, could you please measure yours if you get a chance?

Inner side of front plate to the ac condenser.

[Bloodyaussie]

Here is a side by side comparison of 2 types of bars...lol !!!!!

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[Winnie]

I'm not home at the moment Andy but will measure for you this arvo when I get home.

[MudRunnerTD]

Andy out measuring his Bar

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[AB]

Andy out measuring his Bar

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That's just cruel....lol

[liftlid]

Should have asked Gary to swap mate! Although I have seen his take some big hits! We call his the Grader Blade mate

I can hear you !!!!

[AB]

I can hear you !!!!

Has anyone told you that you look 10 years younger Gary, you're glowing mate!!!

[AB]

Ok, now that the arm is correctly set I just went for a proper test drive to that hill.

Normally got up to 500-520 non ic, got to about 360 now in 4th.

Tried it again in 3rd, normally got around 400-430 now getting 300-330.

Coming up Yarra glen to my house and down my road I used to have to wait a bit in my driveway to get under 200. Rolled into the driveway at 140.

It works a treat!

[growler2058]

Shit hot mate well done

[Winnie]

Awesome results man!

[AB]

So bloody close but no cigar!!!

I want the ic as much as possible behind the grill regardless of what bar goes on.

Took off thermo and support rail, relocated horn, moved ac piping, that piping was easy to relocate.

Pushed the condenser back and I am about 210mm now...10mm off this bloody highmount fitting on the bar.

Had to re do the piping on the cold side because its so far back now so next week ill mount the ic again and have a look.

So close!!!

[Drewboyaus]

To clear up the situation with Andy's winch bar, his is the factory Nissan winch bar for a GQ, made by ARB.
It is different to the ARB winch bar variants, one of which was designed to be able to take a high mount, the other only a low mount.

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[MudRunnerTD]

Remember AB 220mm is the measurement but you really need a little bit of clearance mate

[AB]

Remember AB 220mm is the measurement but you really need a little bit of clearance mate

Yeah it's not happening on this bar mate, I just wanted to move it back as much as possible for the grille and inconspicuousness....lol

[AB]

Double checking measurements tonight you really couldn't even fit a highmount to this bar regardless of the ic without completely removing the grille.

[macca86]

Why can't you make brackets to mount the bulbar a little bit further forward? To give you some more room?

[Bloodyaussie]

I'll swap you my bar plus your spare tyre for your bar.....

[AB]

I'll swap you my bar plus your spare tyre for your bar.....

Are you sure???

[Drewboyaus]

I'm confused.....

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[Bloodyaussie]

I'm confused.....

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Thats not hard

[Drewboyaus]

So you already have his spare and will give it back?

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[AB]

Thats not hard

Entirely up to you ba, ill give you the brand new tyre too if you want to sweeten the deal.

Can't thank you enough mate, legend !!!!

Drew, ba has the arb deluxe winch bar which sticks out a little bit more to accommodate the highmount then mine.

[AB]

So you already have his spare and will give it back?

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No, ba wants a spare 33" tyre for his car.

[Winnie]

So bloody close but no cigar!!!

I want the ic as much as possible behind the grill regardless of what bar goes on.

Took off thermo and support rail, relocated horn, moved ac piping, that piping was easy to relocate.

Pushed the condenser back and I am about 210mm now...10mm off this bloody highmount fitting on the bar.

Had to re do the piping on the cold side because its so far back now so next week ill mount the ic again and have a look.

So close!!!

I have just measured my Millweld bar and have 350mm clearance.

[AB]

I have just measured my Millweld bar and have 350mm clearance.

That's good distance. That would fit a highmount nice with no grille cutting.

[Drewboyaus]

Tried to tag you in a FB post today AB, there is an ARB high mount winch bar for sale somewhere in Yarra Valley.



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[MudRunnerTD]

Tried to tag you in a FB post today AB, there is an ARB high mount winch bar for sale somewhere in Yarra Valley.



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Yeah I spoke with AB and I was chatting with that guy via PM but apparently Jonno"s offer stands. Very generous. Nice work.

[AB]

He's a good man Johnathon. I'm also giving him a brand new spare tyre and rim and some hugs so he's a happy camper as well.

[AB]

I've had enough of this intercooler...lol...I'm done!!

Moved it all back and it's all finally mounted. I hope this never has to come off ever again, I might have to write a manual on how it goes together with the amount of tweaking needed to fit this!

Just need the grille on..

I managed to get 205mm overall from the ic to behind the plate.

[AB]

Much neater pushed back now, flush behind bonnet.

Cut grille, paint grille, brackets and ic....job done!

[AB]

Easy done and a perfect fit!!!


Spray it all up, put some mesh on over the grille cut out, nissan badge back on....sweet!!!

[warner01]

looking good AB. nice work.

[MudRunnerTD]

wow looks like you could have left most of that grille in place mate! well done mate.

[Winnie]

That looks so good Andy, great work with even better results.

[Sir Roofy]

top job mate lets see all those temps settle down and your a happy chappy

STAY OUT OF THE MUD OR YOU WILL BE PULLING IT OUT AGAIN

[Winnie]

So how long until a bigger pump and turbo upgrade?

[Bloodyaussie]

I had a look at it all yesterday and it has come up a treat... surprising for something AB made..ha ha ha.

It will be the test this weekend as he is towing his camper trailer for an overnighter without us!!!

[Rossco]

Looks good AB, it all came together bloody well. Funny how some jobs work out perfect once you get stuck into it and you take your time.

It was worth pushing it back keeping it all tight- looks the goods!!

[Rossco]

I had a look at it all yesterday and it has come up a treat... surprising for something AB made..ha ha ha.

It will be the test this weekend as he is towing his camper trailer for an overnighter without us!!!
So is the reason you and Mark went away towing the camper to prove that it wont overheat and then you can claim your prize?!!

[AB]

Thanks blokes, just got back from camping and the temps are awesome for towing. one happy little camper!!!!

[AB]

wow looks like you could have left most of that grille in place mate! well done mate.

Ill have to show in person mate, it just fits behind the front grille and the fins protrude a fair way back so they all had to go.

I need to get some plastic mesh and neatly put it into those 3 holes now and spray it all black.


Kinglake hill saw only 400 with camper, full car, loaded car and a heap of wood on the rack too.

I used to see 550 up there with the camper and drop it back to 3rd 3/4 the way up pre ic.

[AB]

So how long until a bigger pump and turbo upgrade?

As soon as possible...lol

Ill get it on dyno this week too, looking forward to seeing the results!!!

[AB]

So is the reason you and Mark went away towing the camper to prove that it wont overheat and then you can claim your prize?!!

Temps have not changed since putting in ic and taking out thermo. He's now saying that he meant in summer time...lmao

I won't get my $100 for a few months yet but ill remind him soon...lol

[Ben-e-boy]

I think you could put a detailed write up in the EGT data logging thread,

[AB]

I think you could put a detailed write up in the EGT data logging thread,

Good idea mate. Ill try and get it on dyno this week and max it out so I can do a coverage of three different set ups.

Pre ic and 9 psi boost on ht18
Post ic
After tune possibly 13-14 psi etc

[Rossco]

Temps have not changed since putting in ic and taking out thermo. He's now saying that he meant in summer time...lmao

I won't get my $100 for a few months yet but ill remind him soon...lol
Ha ha,

Don't let that slip, 100 bucks is a fair prize. Won't be too long before summer comes around.

[AB]

Booked in for Thursday at dieseltec....can't wait!!!

[AB]

Like ben said cos I said so :p

Advancing it starts injection sooner so more fuel in earlier which can help with getting the turbo fired up. It will also aid in driveability and power.

Advance injection timing....

Just bumping this for myself so I don't have to scroll back to find this comment on Thursday...lol

Lazy I know...

[taslucas]

Advance injection timing....

Just bumping this for myself so I don't have to scroll back to find this comment on Thursday...lol

Lazy I know...

Post sl#t!!!

[AB]

Post sl#t!!!

Stop pushing my reference back further...lol

[MudRunnerTD]

Pushing back.

[nissannewby]

Lalala hurry up lol

[Bloodyaussie]

Just been looking at intercoolers and is there any maths that come into play eg: diameter, size of cooler and so on... at what point is big too big and is there such thing as too small??

I am asking these questions as I am a complete noob when it comes to turbo's and intercoolers and even diesels now I mention it !!!! lol..!!

[MudRunnerTD]

Is there such thing as too small??

I am asking these questions as I am a complete noob !!!! lol..!!

Ummmmm yes you are.

Sux to be you!

[AB]

Just been looking at intercoolers and is there any maths that come into play eg: diameter, size of cooler and so on... at what point is big too big and is there such thing as too small??

I am asking these questions as I am a complete noob when it comes to turbo's and intercoolers and even diesels now I mention it !!!! lol..!!

STOP PUSHING MY REMINDER BACK FOOLS...Lol

In theory there would be a point of too big but I don't think you could fit it on your car.

[Bloodyaussie]

Wow so informative......... I think I just got dumber reading this thread !!!!!!

[AB]

Wow so informative......... I think I just got dumber reading this thread !!!!!!

Not hard mr peanut...

Mattys your man bud...

Logic needs to come into play. The hot pressurised air comes out of the turbo and through the ic which cools the hot air before entering the engine.

Having a tiny intercooler means it will not cool down as effective as a larger one but that could be challenged based on brands, style, placement etc.

Same principal would apply for a top mount and a front mount. In theory an exact same size and brand ic would work better in a front mount then a top mount as the front mount is receiving cooler air around the ic (better cooling the air inside) and forced air if driving as opposed to a top mount which is receiving engine heat around it.

[Bloodyaussie]

I'm spamming your thread??? You bone head I ask a reasonable question unlike these other bone heads you call mates and you pick me out.... your going down Batty !!!!!!!!

What does diameter have to do with it... serious question!!!

[AB]

I'm spamming your thread??? You bone head I ask a reasonable question unlike these other bone heads you call mates and you pick me out.... your going down Batty !!!!!!!!

What does diameter have to do with it... serious question!!!

Larger diameter is more volume of air, more volume of colder air. In my case with the ht18 the 3" pipe is useless in fact probably making it worse but a larger turbo in the future is pushing more air that will flow faster through the 3" system and a larger pump to deliver more fuel makes it go broom broom better...

Matty....help me...lmao

[AB]

Having saying all this I have a lot more restrictions in my set up to slow down the system.

My patroldocta airbox is restrictive

My elbow going into the inlet manifold and the existing nissan manifold is restrictive.

My 3" straight through exhaust is good.

As much volume of cold air as you can achieve in and as fast as you can remove the exhaust gasses out = good!!!