Depression

[BigRAWesty]

Things are not good, thanks for your support guys.
We're all here for ya bloke.

[growler2058]

Thoughts and best wishes with you mate


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[threedogs]

Life sucks big ones at these times,
thoughts and prayers going your way mate

[Stropp]

thinking of you and the family, positive thoughts for your son.

[TPC]

I really appreciate everybodys well wishes on here, a few words can really help.
We had a neeting with the head of ICU and a few other members of the medical staff today and they have said they will keep him on life support indefinately and try everything to gove him a chance. They said as he is only 32 and has a young family they will give him every oppertunity for survival no matter how slim it might be.
I am glad there is still some hope and will spend as much time with him as I can. I just wish he was in Adelaide instead of Sydney as it is a logistical nitemare with accommodation etc. We currently have my wife and me, my daughters, my sisters, my parents and my sons wife and 2 daughters in Sydney for him but we obviously cannot all stay here indefinately so we will start a roster to make sure his wife always has company.
I do not consider myself a religious person but I am preying now and would be happy if anyone else did too.

[MudRunnerTD]

Our thoughts are with you mate for a recovery. we are all here for you. Best wishes to your son and compassion for his young family. Heart Breaking here for you mate.

[jay see]

Prayers and thoughts for you son.
Good to hear that they are going to give him every chance possible.

[mudnut]

My family and I will start praying for you all, Tony.

[Cuppa]

Oh Tony, mate, I just read your news. I’m not a praying man but I will light a candle & send wishes for recovery up the Hume.

[pearcey]

Tony
I am not that religious but all my thoughts and prays are for you and your family.
I know exactly what you are going through at the moment as I lost my wife of 43 years on 11-1-2016, to a long and hard fight with pancreatic cancer.
So please if you want to talk or need any support I`m close by, day or night.

[MudRunnerTD]

Tony
I am not that religious but all my thoughts and prays are for you and your family.
I know exactly what you are going through at the moment as I lost my wife of 43 years on 11-1-2016, to a long and hard fight with pancreatic cancer.
So please if you want to talk or need any support I`m close by, day or night.

My Condolences to you Pearcy, that is a great loss you have suffered. My best wishes to you. So sorry to hear your news bud.

[BigRAWesty]

Tony
I am not that religious but all my thoughts and prays are for you and your family.
I know exactly what you are going through at the moment as I lost my wife of 43 years on 11-1-2016, to a long and hard fight with pancreatic cancer.
So please if you want to talk or need any support I`m close by, day or night.
To second MR mate that's a huge loss.
Condolences to you and the family mate..
But the same applies mate we all here to chat if needed..

[TPC]

Tony
I am not that religious but all my thoughts and prays are for you and your family.
I know exactly what you are going through at the moment as I lost my wife of 43 years on 11-1-2016, to a long and hard fight with pancreatic cancer.
So please if you want to talk or need any support I`m close by, day or night.

I am really sorry to hear that mate, that must be a devistating loss for you. I have only met you briefly but could tell straight away that you are a top bloke and know she must have been a beautiful pearson to have been with you. I really appriciate your thoughts while you must be grieving yourself.
I am not religious myself but at this time I figure I may as well cover all bases. Just worried I might get hit by lightning if I go to church.

[pearcey]

Thank you Tony and everybody for your thoughts and kind words. She was beautiful, and a wonderful wife and mother but most of all she was my best mate.
I`m not God fearing or a shrink, but I would like to say a little that may help you get through this devastating time for you and you family. Don`t lay blame on anybody, try to stay calm and discuss everything openly,especially with family, involve the children as much as possible, even the youngest (they are smarter than we think)Ask for help from old friends (some may have experienced similar situations) You like me enjoy the odd drink, don`t get pissed, but do have the odd nightcap, it helped me, and make sure you eat correctly (I didn`t, not good)
My thoughts are with you and your family and friends, I`m only a PM away.
Stay strong mate

[taslucas]

So sorry to hear pearcy. It was a pleasure to meet you both.

>>>tappin from tassie

[threedogs]

For what its worth they say ppl in comas can hear every word you say.
Prayers still going your way......

[mudnut]

I am very sorry for your loss, pearcy. The support offered between members of this forum is a thing to treasure.

[Stropp]

sorry to hear Pearcey, my condolences to you and the family.

[Clunk]

Sorry to hear of your loss Pearcey, condolences to you and your family

[dom14]

Today is the worst of my life so far but it may be eclipsed soon.
I am absolutely devastated, my son who has been battling cancer has had serious complications from lung surgery.
He is being put on a ventilator today in ICU but things are looking real bad.
We (me, my wife and his two girls who are 4 and 6) are heading up to Sydney tomorrow morning to be with him and his wife.
I can not imagine not having him around, he is my son and my best friend.

I hope you're coping ok with the most painful experience of your life mate.
I have no idea how bad the pain you're going through, but with empathy I can try to imagine.
No parent should have to go through this, but this is what life throws at us.
Spend as much as time with him and talk to him as much as you can.
Even though he is in a coma, he may be able to hear you and gain strength from it.
He is going through the biggest battle of his life.
I wish your son to appear victorious in the end of this battle.
Take care mate.

[dom14]

Tony
I am not that religious but all my thoughts and prays are for you and your family.
I know exactly what you are going through at the moment as I lost my wife of 43 years on 11-1-2016, to a long and hard fight with pancreatic cancer.
So please if you want to talk or need any support I`m close by, day or night.

I hope you're recovering from your loss mate. It will take some time.
We all have to leave this life behind one day.
We can only hope that it will be less painful and not too soon.
Take care.

[threedogs]

Like to thank all the ppl that sms's and pm'ed, this has knocked me for 6
Friigen surgeon if he'd done it right in the first place none of this would
have happen, Im basically in agony and at the will of QBE who will be
making all the choices.Once the pain settles down a bit I will be ringing QBE
to vent big time. It wasn't even this painful when I was first injured, Ill tell
you straight its' really getting to me this time around GRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[BigRAWesty]

Like to thank all the ppl that sms's and pm'ed, this has knoked me for 6
Friigen surgeon if he'd done it right in the first place none of this would
have happen, Im basically in agony and at the will of QBE who will be
making all the choices.Once the pain settles down a bit I will be ringing QBE
to vent big time. It wasn't even this painful when I was first injured, Ill tell
you straight its' really getting to me this time around GRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Hopefully they can finally fix it ey..

[Kimbo63]

Thanks to you all here on np just feeling really down atm up here in Broome closing a big part of our business not easy to lay any one off any one that have worked for you for 8 years but mines closing down will do that anyhow I'm grestfull for being Part of this great forum thanks to you all
Kimbo
Absolutely gutted right now

[Clunk]

this A.S. can just feckin do one now please

[MudRunnerTD]

this A.S. can just feckin do one now please

Are you OK Adrian?

[Clunk]

Are you OK Adrian?
Yep it'll pass in a day or so, just wish my immune system would shut itself off and stop fighting me.

[BigRAWesty]

I'm sorry mate but what's AS?

[threedogs]

Yep it'll pass in a day or so, just wish my immune system would shut itself off and stop fighting me.

Thoughts with you Clunk hope it passes quickly for you

[Clunk]

I'm sorry mate but what's AS?
http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/mobileart.asp?articlekey=274

[Clunk]

Thoughts with you Clunk hope it passes quickly for you
Thanks TD, I'm hoping today will be a better day

[NissanGQ4.2]

Thanks TD, I'm hoping today will be a better day

Will it make you feel any better if I tell you I didn't have a wank yesterday and that I've been pissing blood outta my c!ck since Tuesday or earlier?

Hope you have a better day Adrian

[threedogs]

Thanks TD, I'm hoping today will be a better day

Im thinking you know the best way to manage this condition, feel you for Clunkster
Chin up

[mudnut]

Farout! That sounds bloody painful, Clunkster.

And passing blood is pretty bad too. Man!

Wishing you both all the best in dealing with it.

[Kimbo63]

Sorry to hear that clunky hope you are feeling better sure sounds painful mate

[threedogs]

Tomorrow is Always a better day, look forward to it arriving

[BigRAWesty]

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/mobileart.asp?articlekey=274
Shit that sounds terrible.. Yea hopefully it passes quickly..

Will it make you feel any better if I tell you I didn't have a wank yesterday and that I've been pissing blood outta my c!ck since Tuesday or earlier?

Hope you have a better day Adrian
And you still sticking your c**k in naughty places???

[Clunk]

Will it make you feel any better if I tell you I didn't have a wank yesterday and that I've been pissing blood outta my c!ck since Tuesday or earlier?

Hope you have a better day Adrian
Did you find out what it was?

[Stropp]

hope you both have good outcomes with the problems guys.

[threedogs]

Feeling better Clunky,,,,LOL

[Clunk]

Feeling better Clunky,,,,LOL
Oh yeah everything is just feckin dandy

[BigRAWesty]

Oh yeah everything is just feckin dandy
How things going clunky

[Clunk]

How things going clunky
Not too bad for now ta, shoulders and neck still painfull but at least the inflamation everywhere else has subsided..... so today is what I would class as a good day

[BigRAWesty]

Not too bad for now ta, shoulders and neck still painfull but at least the inflamation everywhere else has subsided..... so today is what I would class as a good day
Good to hear mate..
I'm bloody aching after the weekend I've just had.. but nothing to what you boys are dealing with..

[Makka]

I dont know what caused your depression......but i 100% understand. had my first bad time in 06 major breakdown lost the plot lost my job and ended up heavily medicated. got back on top of it all in 2010 i had my next eposode kicked my wife out went on a major alcohol binge was a mess for 6 months the whole time my wife was in the back ground watching out for me got my self level again...... every now and then i get down i open up to her go seek help nothing changes over night but it will slowly...... even now i have been a bit shirty but we know the signs she knows what to watch out for and makes sure im safe...... if it was not for the woman i love i would more than likly be on the street or just another statistic

[Bloodyaussie]

..............

[Plasnart]

Cannot begin to explain how low I feel right now.... we did not get the house I had my heart set on and I feel that my wife being an accountant sometimes stuffs with what is really needed to purchase some houses.

We have gone up an incredible amount of money from our original starting price and can still not get a house.

The family have now gone out and I have beer which I will drink all by myself which is pretty healthy thing to do under the circumstances... I hate living in the city and i hate paying this much frickin money..... fuck it.

Take it easy on the beers mate. Have a few but dont go all out. Sounds like a time to keep level headed right now and not blow up making things 10 times worse. Got a punching bag to take it out on?

[Touses]

I hear you brother! Understand the frustration, but as always it needs to be chin up,chest out.

Perseverance, courage. The two most dominant qualities of any successful person!

Press on bloke and don't let the black mongrel ambush you!

[Clunk]

Cannot begin to explain how low I feel right now.... we did not get the house I had my heart set on and I feel that my wife being an accountant sometimes stuffs with what is really needed to purchase some houses.

We have gone up an incredible amount of money from our original starting price and can still not get a house.

The family have now gone out and I have beer which I will drink all by myself which is pretty healthy thing to do under the circumstances... I hate living in the city and i hate paying this much frickin money..... fuck it.
And all caused by money grabbing bastard realestate agents inflating house prices to a rediculous level that the average Joe have no hope ever of being able to reach...... I feel your pain mate, but you'll get there eventually, what will be will be

[Maxhead]

Cannot begin to explain how low I feel right now.... we did not get the house I had my heart set on and I feel that my wife being an accountant sometimes stuffs with what is really needed to purchase some houses.

We have gone up an incredible amount of money from our original starting price and can still not get a house.

The family have now gone out and I have beer which I will drink all by myself which is pretty healthy thing to do under the circumstances... I hate living in the city and i hate paying this much frickin money..... fuck it.

Would me calling you princess make you feel better? Good, I'm glad!

Toughen up young man and start working and stop whinging.

Geez, I'm a good mate ey[emoji106]

[mudnut]

Sometimes I think we have it all wrong with our nuclear families. Around 20 odd years ago, I knew three Thai brothers who all pitched in to buy the eldest brothers house. They and their wives lived in that house for a couple of years until it was paid off. They then bought the middle brothers house in which he and the youngest lived in until it was paid off. And finally the youngest brothers house was bought and paid off. With the six wages it all took 6-7 years.

A bit of patience, BA it will happen, mate. My wife and I lived in a caravan park for over 7 months while we looked for a house, but the wait was worth it.

[Bloodyaussie]

.............

[Chappy]

We have been going to auctions for 6 months now and it is so emotionally draining as you do your research and invest your time and work out why this property will work and then we have to both agree it is where we want to live.

We have missed on our second choice properties a couple of times as they were close to or conflicted with dates the house we wanted more..

Right now i have to swollow some pride and go and make up with my wife as i got a bit upset at her... big mistake.
Keep your chin up mate. You'll get there in the end and it will all be work it when you do.

[taslucas]

All will be well mate. This time next year you'll be in a beautiful new home and all this will only be an unpleasant memory

>>>tappin from tassie

[TPC]

Cannot begin to explain how low I feel right now.... we did not get the house I had my heart set on and I feel that my wife being an accountant sometimes stuffs with what is really needed to purchase some houses.

We have gone up an incredible amount of money from our original starting price and can still not get a house.

The family have now gone out and I have beer which I will drink all by myself which is pretty healthy thing to do under the circumstances... I hate living in the city and i hate paying this much frickin money..... fuck it.

I hate the idea of auctions, bloody hard to plan when you cannot know how much it will go for.
You should move to SA, can buy a 4 bedroom house with pool in my suburb for under 500K and it is a great place to live, no graffiti and no crime.

[BigRAWesty]

Hey BA hang in there mate..
It'll happen soon.. and the rest will be history..
Just don't overspend your selves.. no point owning a house if you still can't get out and enjoy life..

The market is shit atm.. and with the latest drop housing is only going to sell quicker unfortunately.

[Touses]

Bloodyaussie You OK today bloke!

[threedogs]

Hang in there buddy,maybe that house wasnt to be.
Im sure it'll all work out sooner rather than later

[Touses]

Bloodyaussie You going OK bloke? All well?

[Irish]

He's fine, messaged him yesterday.

[MB]

G'day BA-Johno,we've met a few times now mate, face to face, you are truly a bloody good big hearted bloke! Don't be a stranger old mate, mountains are molehills and life is way too bloody short :-) !

[Woof]

Yes I just deleted a few posts that were not necessary in this thread.

This thread was started to get members talking about depression which is a big issue these days and not to be taken lightly.

Please support this thread and the members that post here, I personally have found it very helpful knowing that I am not alone with this terrible F%$$#*$ thing.

Thanks for your understanding

[AB]

Yes I just deleted a few posts that were not necessary in this thread. This thread was started to get members talking about depression which is a big issue these days and not to be taken lightly. Please support this thread and the members that post here, I personally have found it very helpful knowing that I am not alone with this terrible F%$$#*$ thing. Thanks for your understanding Good work Doggy!

[rusty_nail]

Yes I just deleted a few posts that were not necessary in this thread.

This thread was started to get members talking about depression which is a big issue these days and not to be taken lightly.

Please support this thread and the members that post here, I personally have found it very helpful knowing that I am not alone with this terrible F%$$#*$ thing.

Thanks for your understanding
Thanks mate this thread has gone down a notch you've brought it back up. Will be good to meet you soon!

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[Chimo]

BBC is reporting research (May 2016) that is suggesting significant improvement is being achieved if sufferers learn to forgive themselves.

Check it out and you decide if it may help.

Chimo

[BSRT.Beast]

Depression is a bitch I've been suffering on and off for the past 20 odd years and at times can be a real struggle.
Especially when you add it in with the highs of mania from bipolar.

BA .... if you wanna talk mate I'm here for ya.

Although I have my struggles right now I'm willing to listen.

And for everyone else I stumbled upon this via Facebook a few days ago, never hurts to support a good cause.
https://www.dancingwiththeblackdog.com/its-okay-to-say/

[Clunk]

Today has not been a good day.


Well the work fuction was good but the drugs wore off too quickly

[BigRAWesty]

Today has not been a good day.


Well the work fuction was good but the drugs wore off too quickly
Lol. A sober work show???

[Avo]

Today has not been a good day.


Well the work fuction was good but the drugs wore off too quickly

you need to score better drugs mate

[Woof]

Today has not been a good day.


Well the work fuction was good but the drugs wore off too quickly

No good mate, hope things improve soon

[mudnut]

I've noticed a few forum members have gone a bit quiet lately. How is everyone going? Wet weather is great for the water tanks but not great for the those of us who love the sunshine.

[Sir Roofy]

I've noticed a few forum members have gone a bit quiet lately. How is everyone going? Wet weather is great for the water tanks but not great for the those of us who love the sunshine.

Good as it gets mate tanks are full fire is going full belly
just about ready for our trip
thanks for asking

[BigRAWesty]

I've noticed a few forum members have gone a bit quiet lately. How is everyone going? Wet weather is great for the water tanks but not great for the those of us who love the sunshine.
Going good atm mate. Works a plenty. Finally got a stable income with some cash to spare..
Seriously now looking at buckling down for a year and getting into the housing investment market.
Nothing huge, a small 2 bedroom unit. Atm they are selling for 99-100k but renting for $120-140 a week.

How are you traveling.. get the van sorted?

[mudnut]

I'm just sort of idling atm. Waiting for a break in the weather so I can take the dogs to the beach. Mrs mudsane drove the van all the way to Warragul and back for a funeral.
1200 ks and it didn't miss a beat. it is one of those vehicles that is ugly as sin and bits are falling off it, but it still goes. We've had it since 1999 and she loves it so I have no choice but to keep it going.

[Woof]

This is getting a bit out of hand again people, please remove posts that do not belong here..............I should not have to, thanks

[BigRAWesty]

I'm just sort of idling atm. Waiting for a break in the weather so I can take the dogs to the beach. Mrs mudsane drove the van all the way to Warragul and back for a funeral.
1200 ks and it didn't miss a beat. it is one of those vehicles that is ugly as sin and bits are falling off it, but it still goes. We've had it since 1999 and she loves it so I have no choice but to keep it going.
That's good mate..
Cant beat a reliable bomb ey..
Not many whales threw Portland this year..

[AB]

Doggy, hats off in keeping this in line!

I stay away from this thread due to time restraints and my stubborn mind (bahahaha don't diagnose me old mate) and snoop occasionally and am always gobsmacked by the venting and mature help our members offer so kudos gents!

Keep this ship rolling!

[NissanGQ4.2]

This is getting a bit out of hand again people, please remove posts that do not belong here..............I should not have to, thanks

Sorry Boss, didn't even take notice to what thread I was posting in.

Cleaned up all post relating to my comment and will delete this one at 2morrow arvo

[Kimbo63]

Three years ago I was rescued from the ocean after our boat capsized and sank having swam in the cold waters for 20'hours my 2 buddies didn't make it miss you both RIP Sean and Bryce :-(

[jay see]

Three years ago I was rescued from the ocean after our boat capsized and sank having swam in the cold waters for 20'hours my 2 buddies didn't make it miss you both RIP Sean and Bryce :-(
Don't really know what to say here.

That would've been tough to go through...



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[Kimbo63]

Thanks jay see you guys on here have helped me a lot in coping with the overwhelming feeling of guilt for surviving

[jay see]

Thanks jay see you guys on here have helped me a lot in coping with the overwhelming feeling of guilt for surviving
No guilt mate, just not your time yet.
That's how I see it.

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[BigRAWesty]

Life is an absolute bitch mate..
Don't let the sad times bring you down mate..
But don't let the memories fade.
RIP boys.

[TPC]

Three years ago I was rescued from the ocean after our boat capsized and sank having swam in the cold waters for 20'hours my 2 buddies didn't make it miss you both RIP Sean and Bryce :-(

That is one hell of a thing to go through. As others have said you should not feel any guilt for surviving, just honour their lives by living your life to its fullest.

[taslucas]

Three years ago I was rescued from the ocean after our boat capsized and sank having swam in the cold waters for 20'hours my 2 buddies didn't make it miss you both RIP Sean and Bryce :-(
Wow mate that is heavy.

That is one hell of a thing to go through. As others have said you should not feel any guilt for surviving, just honour their lives by living your life to its fullest.
I definitely think that's what they would want you to do

>>>tappin from tassie

[threedogs]

Three years ago I was rescued from the ocean after our boat capsized and sank having swam in the cold waters for 20'hours my 2 buddies didn't make it miss you both RIP Sean and Bryce :-(

There is a reason I think for all things , dont feel guilty. and RIP to your mates
may none of us have to endure anything close to that

[mudnut]

Your memories of them are precious. You being able to talk about it is a big thing, and I am grateful we are here to listen. Hats off to all the good mates we've lost.

[Stropp]

Three years ago I was rescued from the ocean after our boat capsized and sank having swam in the cold waters for 20'hours my 2 buddies didn't make it miss you both RIP Sean and Bryce :-(

gee mate dont know what to say but as said live your life and make them proud you survived and cudos to you for publicly remembering them.

[Clunk]

just when you think you're feeling better in yourself and gaining a little traction, something else comes along and kicks you square in the feckin bollocks then pulls your damn guts out

[the godfather]

just when you think you're feeling better in yourself and gaining a little traction, something else comes along and kicks you square in the feckin bollocks then pulls your damn guts out

I am relating to this right now.

[mudnut]

Whats, up, ClunK?

[dom14]

Three years ago I was rescued from the ocean after our boat capsized and sank having swam in the cold waters for 20'hours my 2 buddies didn't make it miss you both RIP Sean and Bryce :-(

Amazing and inspiring story of human survival spirit & tragic at the same time 'cos your buddies did't make it.
I hope you've recovered from the trauma mate. 4WD'ing is good therapy, as I've discovered.

[dom14]

Whats, up, ClunK?

Yeah, what happened? I hope he's ok.

[oncedisturbed]

just when you think you're feeling better in yourself and gaining a little traction, something else comes along and kicks you square in the feckin bollocks then pulls your damn guts out

Mate I know how you feel, am in the same boat at the moment.

Give us a call if you need to, mobiles always on so anytime is fine


"Never under estimate the power of the tap, let it flow through you"

[Clunk]

Whats, up, ClunK?


Yeah, what happened? I hope he's ok.


Mate I know how you feel, am in the same boat at the moment.

Give us a call if you need to, mobiles always on so anytime is fine


"Never under estimate the power of the tap, let it flow through you"
I'm ok, just very pissed off with a certain situation that had nothing to do with me personally, which now I'm stuck bang in the middle of. No idea which way to go or what to do about it...... it'll get sorted one way or another but whichever way it goes, it's going to be bloody ugly and things will never be the same again. Time to just ride the wave and see where this bastard takes us I guess.

[MB]

Apologies if this link hasn't been proofed properly old mate. My intentions remain the same!
http://www.sunrisesunset.com/Australia/
Nothing can keep a good man down!

[the godfather]

Well, I must say it has been a long time since I have felt oppressed and all round defeated. But over this last two weeks I am feeling somewhat destroyed.
Stupid thing is I have no reason to feel this way. Apart from the fact I am on the bones of my arse at the moment, everything else is good.
Great wife.
Good dog.
Good kids.
Good job.

The Godfather

[mudnut]

Well. You've done the right thing listing some of the great things in your life. I don't know your situation but just the act of posting on here is a big step because you know you are not alone.

[the godfather]

Well just to off load:
Patrol is still at Brunswicks. So using a very expensive to run car for repping in. Bound to have an argument with Brunswicks over warranty.
Wife and I had a blew, all sorted now. Of course this happens when you get down and close up.
Moved the step mother into a home for dementia patients, dad is falling apart, sisters are all an emotional mess, but still helpful. Family on the east coast want to take legal action against us for putting her in a home. Unfortunately for them it will be me they come up against.
Moving dad closer to the dementia home so he can be closer to step mother.
I am a few days behind at uni.
Sales are slightly down at work, so this hits my finances as I am on commission.
Can someone please turn the page for me. I am done with this one. Rock on 2017.

That aside, I am actually starting to feel better.

[the godfather]

4 legal suites now served on us. I am expecting another 2 personally. Hearing is the 27-29th Jan 2017 at the State Administrations Tribunal. Funnily enough though. This kinda snapped me out of my depression a bit.
Thank you to those who contacted me. It has been well appreciated.

[Stropp]

hope it all goes well mate.

[Sir Roofy]

hope it all goes well mate.

x 2 mate hope it does go well

[threedogs]

My eldest is now listed as missing going to be a rotten xmas , well it wont be xmas here this year at least

[mudnut]

What? No! Ahh, man. Is there anything we can do, TD?

[threedogs]

What? No! Ahh, man. Is there anything we can do, TD?

Thanks Craig , nothing to do ATM the D's from Missing Persons on onto it
dont really want to think about it too much, my missus [Lily] is un consolable

[Stropp]

My eldest is now listed as missing going to be a rotten xmas , well it wont be xmas here this year at least

gee i hope he is found ok mate :(

[TPC]

My eldest is now listed as missing going to be a rotten xmas , well it wont be xmas here this year at least

Hope he contacts you before Xmas mate.

[the godfather]

UPDATE: Court cases are done and dusted. Judge was fair but brutal. All cases have been dismissed and the accusers were berated by the court.
The best part was watching my dad face a the stress was lifted from him. The vision alone was worth the pain. I think dad slept a full night for the first time in a long time.
As for me and my siblings, we walked out of court and straight into the pub.
The Godfather.

[GQtdauto]

Having been thru the depression cycle from pain from prescribed drugs and a work injury that ended my working life , not to mention the assumed guilty of fraud for putting in a claim from Workcover I've seen and been thru a lot .
One thing that has kept me from the dark is the fact that no matter how bad my physical and mental injury there is always someone worse off than what I was , to wake up in the morning and be able to dress and toilet myself (just) was definitely a positive .
My worst problem being a man is we bottle it up and don't talk we have to be tough , truth is getting it out in the open to either a phsyc or a friend or any one who will listen and care is a step in the right direction .

[MarionCohrs]

thats the best thing to do is you have someone to talk to about your feelings regardless of worries or happiness. Try to manage your self without any doubts of what you are doing.

[threedogs]

No news about my son ,I pray everynight that he's safe somewhere.
My wife and I are slowly imploding or it feels that way .With his birthday
coming up its going to be very sad day indeed. its been 5 months now.
Who does this shit to other ppl ?? I'll cry myself to sleep again tonight.
like I do most nights,,,Its just not fair,,Grrrrrrrr

[Avo]

No news about my son ,I pray everynight that he's safe somewhere.
My wife and I are slowly imploding or it feels that way .With his birthday
coming up its going to be very sad day indeed. its been 5 months now.
Who does this shit to other ppl ?? I'll cry myself to sleep again tonight.
like I do most nights,,,Its just not fair,,Grrrrrrrr

there's not enough hugs in the world to help mate.....
thought's coming your way but....

[GQtdauto]

Feel bad for you threedogs , unfortunately these things happen and usually to nice people , sometimes people decide to go off grid , would be nice to get a text or even a snail mail saying I'm ok just need some time out , it's the not knowing that sends the mind racing into panic mode .
Apart from worrying as us parents do , I'm not sure what more you can do apart from releasing a photo on some medium like Facebook saying have you seen this man etc .

[GQtdauto]

Hoping the police have done their usual checks of banks , Centrelink , tax office and hospitals etc .
Remember a story of someone stopping to give a swaggie a drink of water beside the road on a hot day , very remote rural location and can't remember if they recognised him or thought something was odd and contacted police or whatever but it turned out years earlier he just went walkabout for some reason and was listed as missing , the police got in touch with the relatives and he was reunited .

[pearcey]

Prayers and thoughts to you and your wife T D, have no idea what your going through, can only imagine.
Never give up and please ask for help. Not only to find your son but support for you and you wife.
Praying for a good out come.

[threedogs]

Well the detectives came today to get some DNA from me, they already took some from Lily.
they say this will be finalized with charges laid by the end of April, sadly there is no happy ending.
Now after I pick up Lily from work Ill have to tell her our son is dead, who does that????
I'm at the end now,, like Lily Im drained, hard to put a smile on my face thats for sure

[mudnut]

Mate, that is just the worst. My sincere condolences. Remember if you want to talk, you know I'm here for you.

[threedogs]

Mate, that is just the worst. My sincere condolences. Remember if you want to talk, you know I'm here for you.

thanks Craig I dont have a big circle of friends and the ones Ive met on the forum
I regard as friend thats for sure,

[Plasnart]

Well the detectives came today to get some DNA from me, they already took some from Lily.
they say this will be finalized with charges laid by the end of April, sadly there is no happy ending.
Now after I pick up Lily from work Ill have to tell her our son is dead, who does that????
I'm at the end now,, like Lily Im drained, hard to put a smile on my face thats for sure

I really don't know what to say TD. Whatever I do say won't change anything but just know we're here if/when you need a shoulder.

My sincerest sympathies to you all. :(

[jack]

Deepest sympathy to you and your family John, can't imagine what you're going through.

[GQtdauto]

My sincere condolences to you and your wife threedogs , I'm stunned and shocked to hear the bad news and can't imagine what your going through , I'm sure the whole of our community here is here for you if you need anything .

Robert

[jay see]

I had to read it twice, just couldn't believe it...
We're all here for ya.
Condolences to you and your family.

[4bye4]

I echo the thoughts of the others who have already posted John. There is nothing that can be added. Carole and I join the others in that our thoughts are with you and yours. You have a lot of friends here if we can help. Tony and Carole

[Woof]

Deepest and sincere condolences to you and your family mate

[TPC]

Well the detectives came today to get some DNA from me, they already took some from Lily.
they say this will be finalized with charges laid by the end of April, sadly there is no happy ending.
Now after I pick up Lily from work Ill have to tell her our son is dead, who does that????
I'm at the end now,, like Lily Im drained, hard to put a smile on my face thats for sure

I am really sorry to hear that John, loosing one of your kids would have to be about the worst thing.

Condolences to you and your family.

[AB]

I'm really sorry to hear the news John, my sincere condolences to you and your family.


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[Winnie]

I'm so sorry to read that John. I truly have no words.

[mudski]

Shit John! I am sorry to read this. Condolences to you and your family mate.

[pearcey]

Sincerest, condolences to you, your wife and all your close friends TD.
No words can take away the pain, but love can ease it.
Stay strong.Thoughts and prayers to all.

[MudRunnerTD]

My sincerest condolences to you and your wife John, my kids are my whole world mate and can't imagine how I'd handle one of them gone, to foul play would hurt even more.

I must admit I'm not on top of the details of what has gone on in your World mate, and sorry for that, best wishes to you mate.

[Hodge]

Yeah very very sorry to hear of the worst outcome John. Thoughts are with you and the family mate. Whatever you need, if anything were here and you got my number too.

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[Cuppa]

Oh bollocks!
Better to know than to not know, but nobody deserves that sort of news. Condolences to you & Lily TD - find a way forward together.

[MB]

Heartbreaking to hear your news John mate. As others have said our phones are on 24/7 if ever you need to talk mate.

[Kimbo63]

Sorry to hear the bad news about your son Td condolences to you and your family mate
Haven't been on here for awhile dealing with some family issues myself :(

[BigRAWesty]

Well the detectives came today to get some DNA from me, they already took some from Lily.
they say this will be finalized with charges laid by the end of April, sadly there is no happy ending.
Now after I pick up Lily from work Ill have to tell her our son is dead, who does that????
I'm at the end now,, like Lily Im drained, hard to put a smile on my face thats for sure
I think my heart just stopped
Mate that's so so sad.
I had to bury my grandpa when I was 15. He was only 62, but I can not begin to fathom having to say good by to your own child..
My guts just turned and now I'm in tears..
Thoughts are with you and the whole family John.

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[my third 256]

our thoughts and prayers are with you on these dark days
things will start to brighten up for you
best wishes stephen and family

[my third 256]

wife just got a phone call from son living in brisbane
mum please help something is wrong with me can you come on the next plane i need you
every thing dropped within 3 hours on plane
straight to doctor and he has seveere depresion and contacts his work /they are very concerned also
wife will stay in brisbane for a while till things settle down
maybe he can get transferr to adelaide and have the support of the family as there is no one up there for him

[Bob]

Sad to hear John.

Try to keep your chin up

[Clunk]

Shocking news John, condolences to you and your family mate

[Touses]

Sad, sad news TD. Lost a younger brother nearly forty years back, saw the light in the parents eyes dim a little then.
I have the greatest empathy for the heartache of your loss.

[DX grunt]

Sincere condolences to you and your family, John.

Take care out there.

Love to all.

Rossco

[threedogs]

First off thanks all heaps it really does mean a lot.
I couldnt bring myself to tell Lily, I just dont know
how to do that, I just cant do it sorry

[Avo]

Very sorry to hear TD...

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[GQtdauto]

First off thanks all heaps it really does mean a lot.
I couldnt bring myself to tell Lily, I just dont know
how to do that, I just cant do it sorry
I know it's hard TD but better it comes from you now that you know , unless you can get the police who are trained to pass on the bad news to pay a visit when you and your wife are at home .
Lost a sister years ago when I was working away , supposedly suicide but the bruises told a different story , was a cranky individual then and had a phone call from the local cops not to come down for the funeral , for me looking back it was a good idea because I don't know what I would have done to the prick .

[4bye4]

First off thanks all heaps it really does mean a lot.
I couldnt bring myself to tell Lily, I just dont know
how to do that, I just cant do it sorry

Mate I'm no expert in these matters, but try and tell Lily, as it could well be the start of the healing process for both of you. You need to do this together.

[BigRAWesty]

I'm with Above John. Best tell Lily.
I think it'll be the best for both of you and although its not what we all wanted, it'll bring closure.

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[Sir Roofy]

First off thanks all heaps it really does mean a lot.
I couldnt bring myself to tell Lily, I just dont know
how to do that, I just cant do it sorry

Mate you must talk to your wife if they asked her for her DNA
Lily will be wondering why please John talk to her and tell her the truth

[growler2058]

wife just got a phone call from son living in brisbane
mum please help something is wrong with me can you come on the next plane i need you
every thing dropped within 3 hours on plane
straight to doctor and he has seveere depresion and contacts his work /they are very concerned also
wife will stay in brisbane for a while till things settle down
maybe he can get transferr to adelaide and have the support of the family as there is no one up there for him

Hope it all works out Steve

[growler2058]

threedogs mate i havent any words?

[Sir Roofy]

wife just got a phone call from son living in brisbane
mum please help something is wrong with me can you come on the next plane i need you
every thing dropped within 3 hours on plane
straight to doctor and he has seveere depresion and contacts his work /they are very concerned also
wife will stay in brisbane for a while till things settle down
maybe he can get transferr to adelaide and have the support of the family as there is no one up there for him

Hope it goes well for your son and family mate all the best

[threedogs]

Lily has already given a DNA sample as the mother is the best source.

[GQtdauto]

Does she know yet TD ?

[threedogs]

Does she know yet TD ?

Haven't been officially told but not hard to put 2 and 2 together
we are a close family. Im staying positive till they say different.
Cant think about how ,,why and who, its way too draining

[GQtdauto]

Mate I can only imagine what you're going thru and wouldn't pretend otherwise , but the whole community is with you 100% and if there's anything any of us can do just ask , even if it's just a chat or somewhere to vent your spleen , I can tell you that talking helps .

[threedogs]

Well I broke down this morning, because this new blue Staffy reminded me so much of my son David.
He has a gift when it comes to dogs, my wife saw me crying and I ended up telling her that 2 ppl will
be charged at the end of the month. they have no idea where David is at this stage. This has been the
worst day of my life,,,,so far. Maybe the pup can comfort Lily a bit I hope so.

[GQtdauto]

Hopefully the new pup will be the distraction you both need TD .

[threedogs]

Hopefully the new pup will be the distraction you both need TD .

I cant hold the pup without crying, its so much like Davids dog Tyson, Lily even called this one Tyler,
We will get closure soon I hope as this is killing all three of us, I have a very strong bond now ,stronger
than ever now, He knows he is apart of all this shite and is hurting like Lily and myself.

[GQtdauto]

Geez I wonder where the wombat name came from , TD that dog is a good match for one of our cats , love to watch it squeezing in and out of the cat door because it looks like the side of the house giving birth .

[DX grunt]

Love you, 3D, and love to all.

Nuff said.

Take care out there.

Rossco

[threedogs]

wife just got a phone call from son living in brisbane
mum please help something is wrong with me can you come on the next plane i need you
every thing dropped within 3 hours on plane
straight to doctor and he has seveere depresion and contacts his work /they are very concerned also
wife will stay in brisbane for a while till things settle down
maybe he can get transferr to adelaide and have the support of the family as there is no one up there for him

any update on your son yet, depression is a hideous disease
thoughts with you at this time........

[DX grunt]

I'm normally a private person, but I believe I know why I got so many tattoos in a short amount of time.

I know I've been jovial about getting them, but the real reason I got them is because of depression.

My tattoo artist - is male - and is bright, bubbly and good to be around. That's why I kept going back.

As some people will know, tattoos is certain locations, cane to the max. I knew that it was only short term pain, so I persevered.

Having said that, I don't regret getting one tattoo.

Tattoos were my stress relief.

My wife has a permanent disability and will never work as a nurse or vollie ambo, ever again. She has excellent skills, which she now can't use.

Money is not the issue. It's been the stress of me doing shift work, house work, garden work and her permanent disability.

My wife is on permanent medication and feels pain, quite often.

Going off road with her, is now out of the question. I do enjoy solo camping, but I do enjoy going camping with the wife.

Her train of thought and energy has now gone towards helping baby kangaroos, whose parent is no longer with us.

Like many of you, I live day by day.

Today has enough challenges without worrying about tomorrow.

I am not ashamed to tell you all that I have sought, and will continue to seek, professional help in dealing with this issue - depression.

Take care, God bless, and I love you all - unconditionally.

Rossco

[GQtdauto]

Brilliant Rossco , that takes guts and helps to get it out , had a work injury that was complicated by CRPS which ended my working career and started the roller coaster ride your on and part of .
The tattoo thing believe it or not is common both with pain sufferers and their partners , probably for the reasons you have outlined .
I've done a few stints in a pain program both three weeks full time as an inpatient of Wodonga Hospital and now I'm slowly getting back together , was a member in a pain forum for years and have heard and seen things tragic and amazing .
I guess what I'm trying to say is I admire you're courage and dedication it's not easy to do what you do and that's something learned from experience.

Robert

[DX grunt]

Brilliant Rossco , that takes guts and helps to get it out , had a work injury that was complicated by CRPS which ended my working career and started the roller coaster ride your on and part of .
The tattoo thing believe it or not is common both with pain sufferers and their partners , probably for the reasons you have outlined .
I've done a few stints in a pain program both three weeks full time as an inpatient of Wodonga Hospital and now I'm slowly getting back together , was a member in a pain forum for years and have heard and seen things tragic and amazing .
I guess what I'm trying to say is I admire you're courage and dedication it's not easy to do what you do and that's something learned from experience.

Robert

Thanks, Robert.

Even talking about it, I believe, plays an important role in the healing process.

Rossco

[Clunk]

Thanks, Robert.

Even talking about it, I believe, plays an important role in the healing process.

Rossco
Time for another camp out mate

[GQtdauto]

Dude first time with a shrink I spent 15 minutes crying like a baby , I mean a grown man for christs sake , but that attitude and wrong medication for the pain didn't help my cause , and must admit the shrink did help me .
Talking with people in the same similar circumstances can be a saviour too .

[DX grunt]

Time for another camp out mate

Absolutely.

Show us your.... tatts. lol.

[DX grunt]

Dude first time with a shrink I spent 15 minutes crying like a baby , I mean a grown man for christs sake , but that attitude and wrong medication for the pain didn't help my cause , and must admit the shrink did help me .
Talking with people in the same similar circumstances can be a saviour too .

I firmly believe, crying is part of the healing process.

When I got divorced, with 4 young sons involved, I cried and cried and cried. It really did help.

My mistake was not getting professional help for me and then my kids, then all of us as a whole.

Rossco

[GQtdauto]

Been there done that .

[DX grunt]

wife just got a phone call from son living in brisbane
mum please help something is wrong with me can you come on the next plane i need you
every thing dropped within 3 hours on plane
straight to doctor and he has seveere depresion and contacts his work /they are very concerned also
wife will stay in brisbane for a while till things settle down
maybe he can get transferr to adelaide and have the support of the family as there is no one up there for him

Mate, my thoughts and prayers are with you and your loved ones - and of course, your son.

I believe there are a lot of members on here that are thinking about you, and others, and their circumstances, but don't have words to express their true feelings, 'on paper'.

I firmly believe most forum members love and care and respect all of you.

To all of you reading the depression thread. I have unconditional love to all of you.....warts and all.

We all have warts and all.

Take care out there.

Rossco.

[my third 256]

any update on your son yet, depression is a hideous disease
thoughts with you at this time........
he has been to a sycolegist a couple of times and is getting tothe root of the problem
also part is he is very home sick so we booked a ticket for him to come home for easter and a few more days
and one on one days with mum
he is the most inportant one at the moment so daughter will be my side cick

[my third 256]

Hope it all works out Steve
plans are in the pipe line
he is home for easter to spend some one on one time with mum
as the sycolegist has suggested

[Clunk]

Bump.

Can somebody please make this thread a sticky?

Rossco
It is a sticky

[DX grunt]

It is a sticky

Too slow. I already realized and deleted my post.

Let's go camping. Will let you know my days off and we'll work it out from there.

[Clunk]

Too slow. I already realized and deleted my post.

Let's go camping. Will let you know my days off and we'll work it out from there.
Sounds like a plan Stan....get Doggy out too

[DX grunt]

Sounds like a plan Stan....get Doggy out too

Absolutely!

[Avo]

you're a top fella doggy.....and a tough nut mate......if ever ya need to tell some bastard to go jump or piss off....Ring Clunk.....

























or me.....
the williams tribe thinking of ya mate...

[jay see]

Seems to be a few members on Hard times.

Sometimes it's easier to type away which is good, always someone here to read, but try to speak to someone, anyone. Hearing yourself saying those words may be better.

Just saying....

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[GQtdauto]

Feel for you Doggy , keep talking mate , vent your spleen you're not alone .

[threedogs]

I'd like to say thanks to those who have PM'd me as well as email and txt.
my situuation is surreal well to me and others that have gone through it personally
have been great in support and giving a bit of insight on what to expect. It truley does
mean the world to me there will be hugs all around whnever we meet, Im still a mess
\along with my youngest son and my wife, but we are a close family and hopefully will
see some light at the end of the tunnel one day when that day is nobody knows.
So again a big thanks to those involved I wont name names but you know who you are.
From the bottom of my heart thank you very very much

[dom14]

I'd like to say thanks to those who have PM'd me as well as email and txt.
my situuation is surreal well to me and others that have gone through it personally
have been great in support and giving a bit of insight on what to expect. It truley does
mean the world to me there will be hugs all around whnever we meet, Im still a mess
\along with my youngest son and my wife, but we are a close family and hopefully will
see some light at the end of the tunnel one day when that day is nobody knows.
So again a big thinks to those involved I wont name names but you know who you are.
From the bottom of my heart thank you very very much

I'm really sorry to hear about the tragedy mate.
My sincere apologies for not following this thread properly for last few months.
Time will heal you.
Take care.

[threedogs]

No updates on the scumbags other than that they wanted protection whilst inside.
still crying myself to sleep every night. At one stage I thought my marraige was
over. Ive known Lily for over 40 yrs you can't just trhow that away. We spoke at
length and things are back on track. Daniel has taken off up to the Gold Coast with
his girl friend. I still have a huge hole in my heart and realise things will never be the same.
Again a huge thanks to the PPL that have pm'd. This is never going to easy but the Patrol will be
up and running in a few weeks, then Ill go get lost along the murray somewhere.I cant see it getting any
easier any time soon, All we can do is lean on each other and get strength fom that.
Down to the Tattoo shop next week and I said Id never get one, David was my special boy, my first born
I reckon all you new fathers know how proud you were putting a spout on you first born, and gave you bragging rites
amongst your mates. well David has now been cremated because of the circumstances. some ashes will be
spread along the Murray , I wish you could have met him he had infectious personallity all who knew him
never forgot him, thats the person David was. he'd give you the shirt off his back if you were cold, rant over for now
My darling boy David now gone forever because of 2 scumbags who thought they were Al Capone the friggen losers.
It' beaking our hearts

[Yeti's Beast]

Been there done that .

Ditto


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[dads tractor]

Bunjie if you want Pm me I'm no miracle worker but willing to help .

[threedogs]

iM not handling this too good still crying every 5 mins I know it natural to miss him but not the way David went
Im just making myself angry and I know that cant be good. I miss my son I want him back its just not fair that
some scumbag can take the love of my life the apple of my eye away from me, ,Its just not fair and makes you feel
like the man ups stairs has failed me some how , I just dont know,, Its not one of those things that happens every day.
Ill cry myself to sleep again and see what tomorrow brings,,,if its more shit Im taking my bat and ball and going home.

[Hodge]

Well i never imagined in a million years I'd be posting in this thread from a personal point of view. But here I am...
I'm usually happy and vibrant at this time of year as i love cold and winter. But this time it's been somewhat of a nightmare.
Cut a book-length story short. I had a heart related medical scare, or thought I did, since it was never figured out what it was...
From there on things got full on. I kept thinking of the worst and then in turn i kept thinking of my family, wife, son, etc. Mind wondered into the extreme corner , what if i was gone and what would happen to them, how would they cope from all aspect.
And things spiraled down from there. It felt incredibly shit day in and day out. The whole thinking and waiting for results etc felt like an eternity . During that time I stopped doing things i usually did.... Hardly spoke to many people I usually did. I bottled stuff up.
Mates, pub, family outings. 4x4 stuff being my hobby was the last thing on my mind. The 8 hours being at work, was just a gap, a break away from thinking about crap... In the end i seeked helped and very quickly got diagnosed with a mild depression. I thought i was a mind strong individual, thought i was ducks nuts and nothing would kick me. Farkin' hell was I wrong...
I've had some very dark days. And the pros think I had "mild" case of depression. If thats the case, I really do not ever want to see what extreme cases are like. I feel for people who ever go through those dark long tunnels.

All i can say is. Look for help guys. Talk to people. Open up ,do not bottle shit up. Believe me it helps.

[jack]

Take care Hodge.

[Sir Roofy]

You've done well Eric hope its all good going now
if you drink Red Bull give it away that will bring on
heart problems

[mudnut]

So very glad you are here and talking about it, mate.

[Hodge]

Thanks fellas. Really means a lot. Sir Roofy . I've never touched those drinks, as I know how bad they are. Issue was more infection related.
Things have been much more stable as of late hence why i'm here catching up etc...

[MudRunnerTD]

Good on you Eric. Glad to see you about mate. Yo u just missed a cracka of a weekend in Licola. Don't let the bastard night mate. Your welcome to have a coffee or a beer at my table any time mate. Happy to come across for a chat any time bud.

[Stropp]

Yes hodge I know what you mean, a few yrs ago I had a similar bad experience with slight depression if you need a chat let me know.

[Sir Roofy]

Thanks fellas. Really means a lot. Sir Roofy . I've never touched those drinks, as I know how bad they are. Issue was more infection related.
Things have been much more stable as of late hence why i'm here catching up etc...

If your ever going past mate just drop in any time will PM address if you like or phone number

[threedogs]

The only thing that made me feel uneasy with the Pysciatrist was her saying she knew how I feel
What I crock I didnt ask which member of her family was murdered. I have found better answers and comfort
from a few nameless members who have been a great help and will be receiving big hugs next time we meet.
My sister has been great unfortunately she can answer any of the questions as she has lost two children of her own
one at 18 hrs the other at 5 year, I was the only one working at that stage and supported to family for quite a while
yes it was a sad time and sad for a long time I remember still breaking down as late as 1989 and Melissa died in
l980 so that took a long time to get over it, Now I have the correct email address of a member Im be able to vent a little to
the correct person, I wonder who received all the others. things are still crap and seems to be a little bit of light at the end of the
tunnel , but with the the court cases coming up that light will go out and will have to start all over again. Ive yet to go to the
cemetary I'll wait till the Patrol is running. All I can say is life sucks big ones and for all you out there with children say you love
them every day. amd give them a big cuddle every time you see them, you just never know, when I last saw David when I dropped him
off all I said was behave your self see you later and I love you. and that was that, the rest was out of my hands...rant over love the ones around you

[GQtdauto]

You've done well TD and yes life can be cruel sometimes but that's when you find out what mates are really for .

[Evo]

So...

Has now been a little over 6 years since I was able to work.
People ask how do I manage, I answered honestly.
"I don't know, just do."
However, I now think I have reached the point where rationality and sanity have fallen out the window.
Every day is a struggle.
Can't think straight.
Have a very short fuse.
Just feel useless.

Just don't know what to do...

Sorry fellas.
Just needed an outlet.

[growler2058]

Camping mate! You need a night or 3 out in the bush.

[GQtdauto]

So...

Has now been a little over 6 years since I was able to work.
People ask how do I manage, I answered honestly.
"I don't know, just do."
However, I now think I have reached the point where rationality and sanity have fallen out the window.
Every day is a struggle.
Can't think straight.
Have a very short fuse.
Just feel useless.

Just don't know what to do...

Sorry fellas.
Just needed an outlet.

I'm into my ninth year now and despite having to wear a foot brace and special shoes most of the time and the weird toilet habits the pain was finally something I could live with , I lost my working life , social life and most if not all of my friends .
In January I had a minor operation to remove a cyst from my right wrist which didn't go to plan , the surgeon cut a vein and nerves ,now I'm struggling to do anything with the right hand and it's getting worse , the constant burning sensation caused by the cut nerves is bad enough but trying to use the right hand like I used to only to get stabbing pains and like electric shocks has put me back nine years .
Only thing is I know what I'm in for because I've been there before , just waiting for the black dog to show up and start following me around again .
But there are ways of making the mutt disappear and getting back to a half normal life mate .

[mudnut]

So...

Has now been a little over 6 years since I was able to work.
People ask how do I manage, I answered honestly.
"I don't know, just do."
However, I now think I have reached the point where rationality and sanity have fallen out the window.
Every day is a struggle.
Can't think straight.
Have a very short fuse.
Just feel useless.

Just don't know what to do...

Sorry fellas.
Just needed an outlet.

There are so many here that are going through varying degrees of what you have posted, Evo, so vent away, mate.

[GQtdauto]

Sent you a pm Evo

[Evo]

Camping mate! You need a night or 3 out in the bush.

That's something that I would be up for, but not a thing that interests the missus.
Plus she started a new job from home last year and works weekends (our weekend is, and has been for the last 8 months, Tuesday and Wednesday) and so I look after our little fella as much as I can while she works.

[Evo]

I'm into my ninth year now and despite having to wear a foot brace and special shoes most of the time and the weird toilet habits the pain was finally something I could live with , I lost my working life , social life and most if not all of my friends .
In January I had a minor operation to remove a cyst from my right wrist which didn't go to plan , the surgeon cut a vein and nerves ,now I'm struggling to do anything with the right hand and it's getting worse , the constant burning sensation caused by the cut nerves is bad enough but trying to use the right hand like I used to only to get stabbing pains and like electric shocks has put me back nine years .
Only thing is I know what I'm in for because I've been there before , just waiting for the black dog to show up and start following me around again .
But there are ways of making the mutt disappear and getting back to a half normal life mate .

Yep, know exactly what you mean with work, social life and "friends".
Was always physically active, work was physical, sport, tinkering with cars...
Doesn't seem to be anything that I can do without pain or wandering thoughts, so I almost figure, why bother?

[mudnut]

Yes, pain can gnaw away at your being. There are times it takes over, but having time with your youngster is precious, and a great reason to battle on. Remember, he sees life through young eyes and you can help him see the best of it what it offers.

[MudRunnerTD]

take care gents. Dont let that Black Dog in the back door he can stay out side. Bloody thing makes a mess everywhere... Plenty of guys here that will let you lean on them gents. Any time. If you need to get away just post a thread and tell us where you want to go and someone will likely be keen for a drive.

[Maxhead]

So...

Has now been a little over 6 years since I was able to work.
People ask how do I manage, I answered honestly.
"I don't know, just do."
However, I now think I have reached the point where rationality and sanity have fallen out the window.
Every day is a struggle.
Can't think straight.
Have a very short fuse.
Just feel useless.

Just don't know what to do...

Sorry fellas.
Just needed an outlet.

Best I can say is keep venting on here, try and get involved in some of the forum trips if you can.
All the meet up trips I have been involved in have been very family orientated.
In fact it’s all about families having a good time and anyone is always welcome.
This is why this forum is a winner mate

Get involved or just vent... all good




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[Mc4by]

An offer!
In my other life I am a Master Practitioner of NLP, Neuro Linguistic Programming. (a life coach)
I am past the point of angling for money.
If any member of this forum would like to talk with me, just send me a pm and we can set up a time to talk 'live'.
No Cost!!!!!!
I have received so much free advice, I am prepared to give some of what I know to you.

[MB]

Personally suffered very debilitating anxiety in my late 20’s early 30’s and eventually/thankfully found a Cognitive Therapy Doc with 6 free sessions from a government grant were the tools learnt/clicked I needed to get up off the shower floor again. Does occasionally try to sneak back at me sometimes in high pressure situations but the whiteboard training memories from the Doc help me cut off the freight train now before it leaves the station so to speak. May not be for everybody mate but I am sure glad I gave it a go for me and forever thank that one specific Doc that worked out my noggin so well and tailored my lessons in a language little old me could understand.
Take care brothers & sisters we are all in this together!


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[Avo]

the train leaving the station mate.....never been diagnosed with depression but do find myself down sometimes..i these as trigger points.....knowing what can cause everything to go shit is important...whether it is thought's or what somebody said....I know I had some hard times and this forum helped heaps.....some really good people here...even better listeners

[GQtdauto]

Well said MB and Avo , it can be mind over matter and learning how to distract yourself but knowing you have a problem (with depression) and recognising it then accepting it and getting help can be a very long bumpy road if you don't have the right road map .
I reckon depression is a journey not a destination.

[Evo]

I don't know if it's all just from pain and inability to do what I want, to go back to work, or all the places and people I've seen that have not been able to help.
Have been pushed from pillar to post...
Neurosurgeon, orthopaedic surgeon, pain management, rehab management, occupational therapy, physiotherapy, job counselling, psychologist, psychiatrist. Probably others in there too.
Then the meds... Anti-depressants, 3 types and dosages of pain meds, nerve blockers, 2 types of sleeping meds, have had 2 epidural injections, and then some.

I was 25 when this all started, just moved into our house 3 years before, things were going good, planning wise and financially.

Now it just seems like... I don't have the word for it.
Every dollar is accounted for, the missus does a budget each month to make sure we can get by and maybe put a few dollars away for saving.
And just when you think you may just get ahead, even by the smallest margin, something always happens.
We make sure the mortgage is paid first, then whatever the little man needs, then bills.
Whatever is left has to cover everything else, fuel, etc.
We once had to go out grocery shopping with just $12.
No outside help, we manage by ourselves.
She's the bread winner, I'm just, I don't know what you would call me...
It kills me to not be able to give the missus and my little fella whatever they want like years ago.
My mind is always going, always thinking, about tomorrow, and the next day.
What if X happens, will we manage to cover Y?
What if?
How?
When?
And if it all.goes to s#!+ tomorrow, then what?

Like you have all said, not easy...
It's not easy, but why do I feel that this is my cross to bear? That I have to do this on my own? Is it because I have always relied on myself? Always done things on my own? Don't trust enough?

Don't know.

These words are pretty spot on.

I walk a lonely road
The only one that I have ever known
Don't know where it goes
But it's only me, and I walk alone
I walk this empty street
On the boulevard of broken dreams
Where the city sleeps
And I'm the only one, and I walk alone

My shadow's the only one that walks beside me
My shallow heart's the only thing that's beating
Sometimes I wish someone out there will find me
Till then I walk alone

I'm walking down the line
That divides me somewhere in my mind
On the border line of the edge
And where I walk alone
Read between the lines
What's fucked up and every thing's all right
Check my vital signs to know I'm still alive
And I walk alone

My shadow's the only one that walks beside me
My shallow heart's the only thing that's beating
Sometimes I wish someone out there will find me
Till then I walk alone

I walk this empty street
On the boulevard of broken dreams
Where the city sleeps
And I'm the only one, and I walk alone
My shadow's the only one that walks beside me
My shallow heart's the only thing that's beating
Sometimes I wish someone out there will find me
Till then I walk alone...

[MB]

We’re never alone Evo mate :-) Please do drop any of us a line anytime , especially Mc4by and his kind offer. For me it was the ‘What If’ language in my head that set the wheels in motion. In regards surgery, definitely worth asking around a local retirement village, our seniors really know their top local docs and can point us in the right direction no doubt mate!


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[threedogs]

Avo for extra dollars as I feel our situations are similar, my wife is now my carer
she doesnt have to work but does to keep her mind busy over recent events.
Even got $8k in back pay, might be worth looking into. I was 35 1991 when first injured
and here I am 26yrs later worse off, there is however a new style MRI which is a load bearing
scan no good laying down with all pressure taken off. This one you stand to show where pain is.
Not sure if WA have one yet as I'll be one of the first to use it.
Hope you find some relief know the feeling all to well of feeling useless, its embarrsasing, from a once do it all guy
to now just sitting in a chair, thoughts with you Avo,
on a lighter note whats with these $8 avos

[Avo]

Avo for extra dollars as I feel our situations are similar, my wife is now my carer
she doesnt have to work but does to keep her mind busy over recent events.
Even got $8k in back pay, might be worth looking into. I was 35 1991 when first injured
and here I am 26yrs later worse off, there is however a new style MRI which is a load bearing
scan no good laying down with all pressure taken off. This one you stand to show where pain is.
Not sure if WA have one yet as I'll be one of the first to use it.
Hope you find some relief know the feeling all to well of feeling useless, its embarrsasing, from a once do it all guy
to now just sitting in a chair, thoughts with you Avo,
on a lighter note whats with these $8 avos

you mean evo or avo matey.....and 8 bucks,you guys getting ripped opff,still 3.50 over here...

[threedogs]

you mean evo or avo matey.....and 8 bucks,you guys getting ripped opff,still 3.50 over here...

woops mixed that up sorry Evo

[Evo]

We’re never alone Evo mate :-) Please do drop any of us a line anytime , especially Mc4by and his kind offer. For me it was the ‘What If’ language in my head that set the wheels in motion. In regards surgery, definitely worth asking around a local retirement village, our seniors really know their top local docs and can point us in the right direction no doubt mate!


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If you are referring to surgery, as in going under the knife, that option has been looked into, and I had asked about it over the first couple of years.
However I was told it's not something that they will consider as the percentage of being worse off (wheelchair/paralysis) is higher than being better than I am now.

[MB]

As John (Threedogs) kindly mentioned above Evo mate there is some amazing new medical technologies out there these days that might now have a better way of at least scanning to have a second look see. Can still be a scary decision to go under agreed and they certainly do make you sign the old waiver. A blown out C5-6 disc touching my cord with added arthritis crushing my right arm nerves in there was finally found. I just couldn’t handle the intense pins and needles and arm function loss so had to take that chance for me. Fortunately was a great surgeon recommended to me from the oldies and forever thank him and them all !


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[GQtdauto]

During my pain journey a few things helped me get to the destination.

Although not easy being able to accept what's happened to me and working out where to from here .

Suddenly realising that the bloke over there with bone cancer or the one over there missing limbs was much worse off than me .

Finding a doc who knows their shit (most important).

Finding people who were in the same boat or similar and who were going through the same thing .

Talking to those around me and letting someone know what was going on in my head , again a difficult thing for a bloke to do but bottling everything up inside only makes things worse .

[Avo]

wouldn't it be good if we could all talk.....if it aint one thing it's another..,we have to be here for our kids...no point giving up yet hey
just someone I care about a lot...cheers

[Mc4by]

You don't know me, but I did this for a living. Talk to me if you need to.

[GQtdauto]

wouldn't it be good if we could all talk.....if it aint one thing it's another..,we have to be here for our kids...no point giving up yet hey
just someone I care about a lot...cheers

Your an amazing man Avo mate , it takes guts for a bloke to ask that question because most men would rather keep thoughts and feelings to themselves when in reality just that simple act of talking can be like a pressure relief valve .

[bazzaboy]

For once in my life I think I can identify with those people suffering from depression. I've always been a very strong person and tended to deal with things myself, while keeping it all bottled up. Thankfully it's never been related to money or health situations, usually personal relationships within the family or good friends. I've also found that as I've gotten older I've become more emotional. A current issue with a young family member's relationship ending has effected me greatly. I see it as a wasted chance for a great future together, thrown away by choices forced on them by inept & morally wrong family law court decisions, in relation to child custody from a previous relationship. It's a long and heartbreaking story, but it's caused the breakup of a young family by one of them choosing to relocate to be close to the child.
I'm finding it very difficult to deal with at the moment while trying to support both of them. I'm only managing to get about 3-4 hours sleep a night these days and it wears you down. I love and care for both of them and it breaks me up watching it happen. I've tried to convince the one leaving that they need to look at their long term future as a family together, and what benefits that brings, but I do understand the overwhelming emotional need to be close to the child.

Thanks for listening guys, it has helped some by getting this off my chest.

[GQtdauto]

I decided a few years ago that worrying about things I couldn't change in my life was eating me from the inside so now I concentrate on the things I can do and can change .

[threedogs]

Evo Ihad a similar problem since 91' I was lucky enough to pay the house off then
but aside from that Im now on a DSP and still seeing surgeons, only yesterday had 2
MRIs one a load bearing and the other similar to a CAT scan. avoid surgery at all costs
What level is your problem? they have great gizmos to replace discs these days so you
dont walk hunched over like I do, well I start off straight but by the end of the day Im hunched over.
Workcover and TAC there is no charge for the MRI .I had mine at Epping nth of Melb.
I hear your despair and hope you find some relief down the track, I dont 4x4 anymore
but like my camping and can hear the Murray calling as I type lol

[Evo]

Evo Ihad a similar problem since 91' I was lucky enough to pay the house off then
but aside from that Im now on a DSP and still seeing surgeons, only yesterday had 2
MRIs one a load bearing and the other similar to a CAT scan. avoid surgery at all costs
What level is your problem? they have great gizmos to replace discs these days so you
dont walk hunched over like I do, well I start off straight but by the end of the day Im hunched over.
Workcover and TAC there is no charge for the MRI .I had mine at Epping nth of Melb.
I hear your despair and hope you find some relief down the track, I dont 4x4 anymore
but like my camping and can hear the Murray calling as I type lol

The house is a big weight on my mind...

As for scans and surgery, unfortunately not work related, etc, so any extra stuff besides xrays/ultrasound is at my own cost...
Hoping to see one of these load bearing MRI machines available over here (if not already).
Hope you relax by the river soon then lol

[MB TD42]

Gday Evo,

Great to meet ya on the weekend mate...It was a pleasure.
As for the dark...
I wish I could say it gets easier but it just doesn't...
I wish I could just serve you a cup of strength and luck but I have used all mine up.
at best I can be an ear for your story or a shoulder to lean on when your all outa punch.

For me...

I was told to give up all that I love due to knee and back conditions and injuries mixed with arthritis and ongoing degenerative cartilage issues.
I hate being told what to do...
I reached out to people that have had to swim these waters before and I filled my mind with good stories and positive outcomes.
I know it takes more than a story or a laugh to pull yourself out of the mud but it is a possibility as long as your heart beats and your sights are true.

I got hold of a power tower and had to burn kilos and get my core strength up and weight down.
It took months of sore muscles and doubt to get any results. I was told to never stop moving only relax at night in bed.
I now continue to manage my body but I do slip up and end up a bit further back than expected but hey' We aint flat roaders...we know there is no up without getting down...
I have 2 young boys and a home to keep over their heads so there is no room for failure in my eyes, even though I do fail all the time.
Having people who love you is a rare gift and not something you want to give up on.

I have bad days and good days...I cherish the 1 or 2 percent of the time that life goes right for me. I also know that if I had have given up on things when my chips were down I would never have met any of the great people like yourself that I know today.
This is our only chance to be the best we can be. People like us get no free rides...We have to fight to hold ground and push forward but be sure this is something you can be proud of. It will make you stronger. You have to find a way to make it work.

I wish you strength, courage and determination on your journey. Only you can make it happen.
We are not the same but be sure not to deceive yourself... trust only your positive thoughts.

Hope to catch up again on the trails soon. :driving2:

[drgtr]

You guys are tough sons of a bitches.
Yes you guys struggle with depression. Yes you feel pain, emptiness, Weird feelings etc.
But still you guys are here standing tall . Fighting everyday.

I dont suffer depression but I suffer from anxiety. I avoid people at work that I have bad experiences with or I perceive them as bullies.
I worry about the future and money all the time.

I undo that banjo bolt to check the guaze filter but I will keep going out checking if I dont it up properly or did I strip the thread etc.

Just sometimes can let things go.

Then it spirals and then I feel down or panick.

I go through great periods and then sometimes it compounds.

This has been my life. Definately a by product of my mild Tourettes Syndrome.

Besides that my life is good. Beautiful Family. 4 amazing kids.

Love my Nissan Patrol.

Good thing with age I have atleast accepted who I am and learnt that its a condition and not because Im weak or a coward that I worry about those people or situations.

I do wish all you guys the best.

We dont need to be those "Tough Aussie blokes"

We just need to be there for our friends and family.

[GQtdauto]

drgtr on the plus side with Tourette's you get to swear and there's not a damn thing AB can do about it suffer in yer jocks Clunk and Avo .
Seriously though what you're going through must be tough and I know what you mean about confrontation and avoiding certain people , as for being emotional since the accident I tend to ball my eyes out if I see a kitten the missus and kids reckon it's hilarious.
As long as you've accepted the way you are you should be fine but help is out there mate .

[drgtr]

drgtr on the plus side with Tourette's you get to swear and there's not a damn thing AB can do about it suffer in yer jocks Clunk and Avo .
Seriously though what you're going through must be tough and I know what you mean about confrontation and avoiding certain people , as for being emotional since the accident I tend to ball my eyes out if I see a kitten the missus and kids reckon it's hilarious.
As long as you've accepted the way you are you should be fine but help is out there mate .

lol Not that kind of tourettes, Thats the hollywood bullshit.

More of tics. eye twitch. clearing throat. Cranky neck.

Mild but when it comes. Its still very uncomfortable.

Moreso the byproducts are the anxiety and panick attacks..

woo wee.

[JackCollo]

Going through some really depressing stuff at the moment dealing with 15 different companies chasing me for money from stuff that happened a long time ago and it’s putting a huge strain on my work and family and personal life. Works been a shitfest with nothing going my way and my health has been getting worse. My back is on its way out and the arthritis in my hips and knees is the worst it’s ever been and the worst part is my last mole check up with the doc ended with probably the worst news I’ve ever got. My misses recently started a full time job and she is more stressed than ever as well. Let alone the fact my patrol broke down so I’m without a car for the time being. Sorry for the rant. Needed to get some stuff of my chest
Cheers


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[4bye4]

Going through some really depressing stuff at the moment dealing with 15 different companies chasing me for money from stuff that happened a long time ago and it’s putting a huge strain on my work and family and personal life. Works been a shitfest with nothing going my way and my health has been getting worse. My back is on its way out and the arthritis in my hips and knees is the worst it’s ever been and the worst part is my last mole check up with the doc ended with probably the worst news I’ve ever got. My misses recently started a full time job and she is more stressed than ever as well. Let alone the fact my patrol broke down so I’m without a car for the time being. Sorry for the rant. Needed to get some stuff of my chest
Cheers


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That's what this thread is for mate. I hope it helps just putting it out there. lots of people on here with the same or worse and all willing to talk and help. Can't relate to the companies chasing you, but been there done that with the arthritis and am now the proud owner of titanium/plastic hips. So far all mole checks have been ok for me. Get out there and fix the patrol. If you need to talk feel free to PM me mate. I just got back from hospital visiting my wife who has just had a growth removed from her tongue. Looks like its going to be ok, so looking forward to her telling me off about overspending on the Patrol again. I never thought I'd look forward to her telling me off. Everything has an up side, just sometimes it's a bit hard to find. Cheers Tony

[GQtdauto]

Going through some really depressing stuff at the moment dealing with 15 different companies chasing me for money from stuff that happened a long time ago and it’s putting a huge strain on my work and family and personal life. Works been a shitfest with nothing going my way and my health has been getting worse. My back is on its way out and the arthritis in my hips and knees is the worst it’s ever been and the worst part is my last mole check up with the doc ended with probably the worst news I’ve ever got. My misses recently started a full time job and she is more stressed than ever as well. Let alone the fact my patrol broke down so I’m without a car for the time being. Sorry for the rant. Needed to get some stuff of my chest
Cheers


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Yeah letting off steam can be a great stress reliever mate , very close to being bankrupt a few times and certainly have had some money issues when younger .
I think there is help out there for debt consolidation might be worthwhile checking it out even if only to see if they can help .

[JackCollo]

Thanks guys for your support. Had a melanoma cut out of my shoulder yesterday so that was fun.
Sometimes it is nice just to let things out to other guys.


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[jay see]

Sometimes it is nice just to let things out to other guys.

Yes it is...

Life goes on, yes it's a bit hash but reality is life doesn't stop so grab it by the horns and do what you need to...

Sorry if I comes across rude, but I've had my fair share of shit and what I've learned is the above comment.

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[Big Gags]

I'm fortunate enough not to be battling the black dog but I have had a few mates who have/are and so I have had some insight into how bad it can be. I think it's great that this community of guys who in most cases probably haven't even met each other can offer up support and share a bit of themselves in doing so - takes a lot of guts in my opinion!!

Now I'm a bit of an ideas man at times and I was just noticing that there are a reasonable number of guys on here from Melbourne and I was thinking that wouldn't it be great to set up a "Mens Shed" somewhere that is based around a common love for Patrols!! I have a mate who regularly goes to a motorcycle workshop in the city somewhere and he pays an annual subscription and for that he can go in there, meet some like-minded people, and use their facilities and workshop tools (and expertise if required). I was wondering if there could potentially be an opportunity to link up with an existing Mens Shed somewhere and potentially hire their facility on a regular basis (maybe once a month) to get together, discuss Patrols, work on Patrols, admire Patrols, etc...?? I have no idea if there are any Mens Shed organisations around that might have suitable facilities to host something like this but my thought was that they would already have insurances worked out through the national Mens Sheds body and they might also be receptive to some additional revenue to help them maintain/update their facilities.

Has anybody every tried to get something like this off the ground before or have any experience with any of the Mens Sheds groups??

[JackCollo]

That’s not a bad idea but a lot of the guys on here work all hours and have family’s to care for I can’t speak for them personally but I’d be interested in a regular meeting spot to admire patrols an catch up maybe have a barbecue or something I think the hiring of a shop is a bit much too soon if it was a ford club maybe a workshop but not us patrol blokes. Except mine could really use a workshop it is very broken at the moment


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[GQtdauto]

The idea is brilliant the details are the devil .

[threedogs]

The house is a big weight on my mind...

As for scans and surgery, unfortunately not work related, etc, so any extra stuff besides xrays/ultrasound is at my own cost...
Hoping to see one of these load bearing MRI machines available over here (if not already).
Hope you relax by the river soon then lol

load bearing was painfull to be honest but at least they found something Ill find a plan of attack on Thursday
Hope you find some relief back pain they know nothing Im up to 19 ops to fix the first, not includind spinal taps
denervation you name Ive had it and have to bear all the sht that comes with it. talk any time Im nearly a surgeon lol

[threedogs]

Davids birthday yesterday still cant bring myself to go to the cemetary.
later that night we had a cake with a candle we use for all birthdays
turned the lights of and stood in silence for a minite or so then we all [4]
blew out the candle, fn sad day thats for sure

[Evo]

Howdy fellas.

Back in a hole again, doing my bloody head in.
Downhill with pain and mobility, sitting and staring at the top of the walking stick that I need to use again...

[Avo]

Howdy fellas.

Back in a hole again, doing my bloody head in.
Downhill with pain and mobility, sitting and staring at the top of the walking stick that I need to use again...

ring me home phone mate,,,i'll do me best to make ya laugh or fart.....honest....the least I can do

[GQtdauto]

ring me home phone mate,,,i'll do me best to make ya laugh or fart.....honest....the least I can do

Now there's an offer too good to refuse Avo , he cracks me up .

[GQtdauto]

Sending you a PM Avo .

[Evo]

ring me home phone mate,,,i'll do me best to make ya laugh or fart.....honest....the least I can do

I think I nearly messed my pants last time you made me laugh...

[fabs]

always feel ok to talk o someone - it makes a differnece

[PKF]

As already mentioned by others... figuring out you are depressed is the hardest because it sneaks up... recognising and admitting is the first step.. talking about it is the second and most important and that you have gotten there means you are moving up. Depression is a brain chemistry imbalance which does not reflect your resilience or inner strength. If you drink... DON"T... at least for when you are feeling down. For me in the last few years of my shitty marriage, shitty work and fear of providing for my boys.. I drank thinking it helped. It does not. After the hangover comes serious down feelings. Alcohol when you feel blue is not your friend... trust me... suicide attempts and run ins with the law taught me that. Getting older, injuries catching up... my left knee is a bag of chips... lower testosterone.. all these things take our will. To an extent we can work thru them. Give yourself a break.. be kind to yourself. You are not alone.

I found a great riding group who had all been thru this. Their support was what got me thru and out the other side. Looking back is frightening for me. I cannot believe how depressed, useless and unmotivated I was. The thing that started me on the right track was to talk. You are not alone. You have not failed. Shit happens is too widely used for its true meaning to be seen. Reach out. Help out with charity groups.. black dog... mens shed... know that you have a lot to offer.

When I first hit bottom it was the other guys climbing into my hole that changed me. Having people tell you what to do from outside is useless.... it is the people who have been there lifting you out that makes the difference. I know it is tough and it is hard to get motivated. Ask for help... but mostly get involved and offer support. The secret to happiness and fulfilment lies in others so don't shut your self down. Take the offers of a phone call.


All the best. It is a long road but it is worth it. Remember... ditch the grog... save it for the best times... not the worst.

[GQtdauto]

As already mentioned by others... figuring out you are depressed is the hardest because it sneaks up... recognising and admitting is the first step.. talking about it is the second and most important and that you have gotten there means you are moving up. Depression is a brain chemistry imbalance which does not reflect your resilience or inner strength. If you drink... DON"T... at least for when you are feeling down. For me in the last few years of my shitty marriage, shitty work and fear of providing for my boys.. I drank thinking it helped. It does not. After the hangover comes serious down feelings. Alcohol when you feel blue is not your friend... trust me... suicide attempts and run ins with the law taught me that. Getting older, injuries catching up... my left knee is a bag of chips... lower testosterone.. all these things take our will. To an extent we can work thru them. Give yourself a break.. be kind to yourself. You are not alone.

I found a great riding group who had all been thru this. Their support was what got me thru and out the other side. Looking back is frightening for me. I cannot believe how depressed, useless and unmotivated I was. The thing that started me on the right track was to talk. You are not alone. You have not failed. Shit happens is too widely used for its true meaning to be seen. Reach out. Help out with charity groups.. black dog... mens shed... know that you have a lot to offer.

When I first hit bottom it was the other guys climbing into my hole that changed me. Having people tell you what to do from outside is useless.... it is the people who have been there lifting you out that makes the difference. I know it is tough and it is hard to get motivated. Ask for help... but mostly get involved and offer support. The secret to happiness and fulfilment lies in others so don't shut your self down. Take the offers of a phone call.


All the best. It is a long road but it is worth it. Remember... ditch the grog... save it for the best times... not the worst.

Well said mate it's the realisation that you have a problem is the hardest for most and talking about it with friends will help
Enormously, for those of us not working anymore regardless of age men's shed is a life saver .
If alcohol changes your mood either way up or down yes stay off it as for me it just makes me sleepy .

[mudnut]

Someone close to me has been hospitalised after a failed suicide. No one knew he was that deep into a depression, as he was cracking jokes, eating, working as if nothing was wrong. We are waiting for a call to say that he wants visitors.

Don't let any of those "superior" bastards ( the boss, the bully or the Man) in this world get you down or make you think that you have to apologise for existing.

[the godfather]

MENTAL HEALTH CHECK....You all alive and good?

[Avo]

MENTAL HEALTH CHECK....You all alive and good?I fekkin hope so..good mate of mine ....hasnt answered his phone all day...and he needs hugs.

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[GQtdauto]

I fekkin hope so..good mate of mine ....hasnt answered his phone all day...and he needs hugs.

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That's just Clunk being Clunk Avo but keep an eye on him anyway .

[Avo]

That's just Clunk being Clunk Avo but keep an eye on him anyway .Nah not him..we let him wander and go get him.again from some council spot....pic dont like him ....hes yours....

Someone else...if it where clunk be easy ....

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