Depression

[Avo]

Fark another mate just got bitten....survived......someone made a call and the police did a.welfare check.....we understand that you dint want to tell anyone or its to much trouble...and if i say just ring me mate....you dont ....you think you have no option or you are just a bother....i would rather see me hold you give you a hug and cry with you...hide here....no one will ever know.....if you cant handle the world atleast just hide here....without you.....being you the world has one less good carnt.......

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[GQtdauto]

Well done AVO .

[belzi82]

I have been very disconnected from this group for many years. 15 years ago I was diagnosed with PTSD and I thought I had overcome it but I hadn't. I have recently been in a very dark place and pulling myself through. With counseling I realised I have been in a relapse for a while (many years) without knowing.
I have only just started to tell people what I have been going through.

[Woof]

I have been very disconnected from this group for many years. 15 years ago I was diagnosed with PTSD and I thought I had overcome it but I hadn't. I have recently been in a very dark place and pulling myself through. With counseling I realised I have been in a relapse for a while (many years) without knowing.
I have only just started to tell people what I have been going through.

I find that the hardest thing is to talk about it, I have posted a few posts here but gone back and deleted them..............we have a great crew here that are always supportive. Take care

[GQtdauto]

I have been very disconnected from this group for many years. 15 years ago I was diagnosed with PTSD and I thought I had overcome it but I hadn't. I have recently been in a very dark place and pulling myself through. With counseling I realised I have been in a relapse for a while (many years) without knowing.
I have only just started to tell people what I have been going through.

Talking about it is a good step in the right direction mate , not at all easy to do but it really can help .

[mudnut]

Been running a around like a mad bull trying to fix this and that, worrying about it all, then I finally get onto the Forum to find Roofy has passed away. It puts it all into perspective.

Was really looking forward to catching up with him, John and the others up at the river. I will make a bloody good effort to get there.

[jay see]

Been a bit slack with this group, actually everything at the moment. Going through a tough time financially and Can't be fagged with alot of things. Trying to cut back where possible.

I do pop in and see what's going on just not really in the mood to contribute all that much.

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[0-TJ-0]

Been a bit slack with this group, actually everything at the moment. Going through a tough time financially and Can't be fagged with alot of things. Trying to cut back where possible.

I do pop in and see what's going on just not really in the mood to contribute all that much.

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Keep looking forward and keep talking about what's going on mate. Good start just popping up and saying hello.

[Avo]

What he said...
This forum has saved me
Even a pm,just a shout out...
I'm listening


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[AB]

Yep I never get into this section much as most of you know I am a stubborn bloke with a heart of stone lol but...As some of you know the last 3 years of my single daddy complex life would challenge the strongest blokes and I will honestly admit right now that I had some realllllly shit moments, really shit but i can see the light and that light is coming closer I hope...lol

Watch this space!

[Avo]

Just spent 2 days by a hospital bed...before that i, we all of my family have spent 3 yrs waiting...
For what
the black dog....
Every creak in the floor,every noise...,the unusual noise,the silence
We knew it was there,hoping it had gone away,but it hasn't...
Hanging on,hoping,
Defeated,

Hanging on,
Hoping

It hurts

My daughter wants to end her life....


Thanks for listening...



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[the evil twin]

Thinking of you mate... Kids are every thing thats good in the world, it can be very tough getting them to see it at times, you just have to be there for them.

[TPC]

Just spent 2 days by a hospital bed...before that i, we all of my family have spent 3 yrs waiting...
For what
the black dog....
Every creak in the floor,every noise...,the unusual noise,the silence
We knew it was there,hoping it had gone away,but it hasn't...
Hanging on,hoping,
Defeated,

Hanging on,
Hoping

It hurts

My daughter wants to end her life....


Thanks for listening...



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Shit Avo, don't know what to say.
Support her, be there for her, do everything you can, but you would already be doing that.

Thinking of you and your family mate.

[MB]

All our love mate, we’re hoping for the best over here for you and the family.


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[Rossco]

Far out Avo, so sorry to hear. All the very best mate.

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[growler2058]

Just spent 2 days by a hospital bed...before that i, we all of my family have spent 3 yrs waiting...
For what
the black dog....
Every creak in the floor,every noise...,the unusual noise,the silence
We knew it was there,hoping it had gone away,but it hasn't...
Hanging on,hoping,
Defeated,

Hanging on,
Hoping

It hurts

My daughter wants to end her life....


Thanks for listening...



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Ah fuck mate. Like others have said be there for her and keep reminding her she’s the most important person in the world. I’m not sure how to make them see it but when someone wants to die things can’t get worse that’s rock bottom and now things can only get better.

[Bob]

You are in our thoughts Avo
Keep strong

[Hodge]

All our thoughts and love to you, your family and your daughter Avo.

[GQtdauto]

My thoughts are with you Avo ,support and love along with talking allround and seeking professional help is about all you can do but never give up trying .
Lost a sister to the black dog 28 years ago and I still wonder what if I did this and what if I did that .
We can't lock them up forever we can only love and support and live in hope .

[Clunk]

Just spent 2 days by a hospital bed...before that i, we all of my family have spent 3 yrs waiting...
For what
the black dog....
Every creak in the floor,every noise...,the unusual noise,the silence
We knew it was there,hoping it had gone away,but it hasn't...
Hanging on,hoping,
Defeated,

Hanging on,
Hoping

It hurts

My daughter wants to end her life....


Thanks for listening...



Sent from my SM-G930F using TapatalkYou be there for your daughter mate and we'll be here for you.... you know that bud.

Much love, thoughts and well wishes to you all

[Winnie]

Just spent 2 days by a hospital bed...before that i, we all of my family have spent 3 yrs waiting...
For what
the black dog....
Every creak in the floor,every noise...,the unusual noise,the silence
We knew it was there,hoping it had gone away,but it hasn't...
Hanging on,hoping,
Defeated,

Hanging on,
Hoping

It hurts

My daughter wants to end her life....


Thanks for listening...



Sent from my SM-G930F using TapatalkI've been trying to think of something to say since I saw this post. Still can't think of anything.
All the best Avo.

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[Plasnart]

I've been trying to think of something to say since I saw this post. Still can't think of anything.
All the best Avo.

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Same. Don't know what to say Avo. Cant and wont give advice as I haven't been there. Sending you and your clan love and best wishes from my soul.

[Avo]

thanks everyone,means a hell if alot,
We always say if ya need a chat just yell out and this forum is such a great place to reach out
I really hope we beat this,as i said 3 yrs in it is a long road,i honesty thought we had beat it already,but exams n pressures of teenage life
We are and have a strong family mum dad ebb n sisters
Tried to catch up on work today n failed emotional
Miss has to go to school tomorrow n face all the questions another hard time(she was taken from school to hospital)
Its a hard road,but we will do it together..

Once again thanks everyone for your thoughts..

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[jay see]

I'm really struggling to find the right words here.

Having a couple teenage kids and one finding year 12 a real challenge my heart goes out to you and your family mate.

All the very best.

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[Woof]

You be there for your daughter mate and we'll be here for you.... you know that bud.

Much love, thoughts and well wishes to you all

As I said yesterday old mate, I am available if you need me..........us 4 ferals always stick together as you know

[threedogs]

Give your daughter a big hug Avo, I feel your pain and send all my love
to you and all who surround you. If this is rock bottom then the only way now is up.
I stare into darkness every day

[pearcey]

AVO, shit mate sorry I missed this but was layed up in hospital.
I have never been in, or even close to your situation so have no idea what to say apart from you`ve got my number, it`s on 24/7 ,don`t give a shit what time, just call. This also goes for the rest of your wonderful family. Thoughts prayers and hugs to you all.

[Cuppa]

thanks everyone,means a hell if alot,

I really hope we beat this,as i said 3 yrs in it is a long road,i honesty thought we had beat it already,


Avo mate, she has the best support she can get, I know it is unimaginably hard, but your 'we' says it all. So many young people in similar situations only have a 'he' or 'she' when family members talk of their children's problems.

[DX grunt]

Most parents have unconditional love for their kids, you Avo being no exception.
Keep being there for your daughter, reinforcing and showing your unconditional love - warts and all.
I've lost a lot of sleep because of my kids, but hang in there, no matter how long it takes.
Love to ALL your family.
Take care.

Rossco

[mudnut]

I wish I could scrub today and start it again. I had some news that a young 2nd cousin is to undergo some very major surgery and also learned of Bob's condition.

With the restrictions in place, how is everyone going?

[Deano2506]

So sorry to hear that mate.
It's a hard slug with the way things are in the "new world".
Going back 5 weeks i was on my first cruise with the wife...we were on vayager,returned 18th march.it started before all the carona shit went down,first 5 days were the best time in my life,then it all went to shit.
Spent the next 6 days floating around the ocean not knowing what was gonna happen.
When we finally got home ,it was 14 days self isolation which was all good and neither of us got sick(thank fuck).after that our jobs were uncertain but thanks to the jobkeeper payments we've both still got our jobs....not that there's much happening at work but I'm not complaining.
Then last friday after not hearing back from my best mate for a couple days i went round to check on him.i found him dead on the floor in his bedroom...genetic heart problem.
Then yesterday after his funeral(ripped me up) the mrs gets home and instead of a sympathetic hug and some console, she has a go at me about needing to stack some firewood because she's arranged another load today.
So to sum things up,everythings pretty fucked at the moment.
I'll be ok,never been a quitter but this last few weeks is certainly challenging me.
Stay safe everyone.
Dean

[Winnie]

So sorry to hear that mate.
It's a hard slug with the way things are in the "new world".
Going back 5 weeks i was on my first cruise with the wife...we were on vayager,returned 18th march.it started before all the carona shit went down,first 5 days were the best time in my life,then it all went to shit.
Spent the next 6 days floating around the ocean not knowing what was gonna happen.
When we finally got home ,it was 14 days self isolation which was all good and neither of us got sick(thank fuck).after that our jobs were uncertain but thanks to the jobkeeper payments we've both still got our jobs....not that there's much happening at work but I'm not complaining.
Then last friday after not hearing back from my best mate for a couple days i went round to check on him.i found him dead on the floor in his bedroom...genetic heart problem.
Then yesterday after his funeral(ripped me up) the mrs gets home and instead of a sympathetic hug and some console, she has a go at me about needing to stack some firewood because she's arranged another load today.
So to sum things up,everythings pretty fucked at the moment.
I'll be ok,never been a quitter but this last few weeks is certainly challenging me.
Stay safe everyone.
DeanHey Dean, you're doing well mate! Keep it up.

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[MudRunnerTD]

So sorry to hear that mate.
It's a hard slug with the way things are in the "new world".
Going back 5 weeks i was on my first cruise with the wife...we were on vayager,returned 18th march.it started before all the carona shit went down,first 5 days were the best time in my life,then it all went to shit.
Spent the next 6 days floating around the ocean not knowing what was gonna happen.
When we finally got home ,it was 14 days self isolation which was all good and neither of us got sick(thank fuck).after that our jobs were uncertain but thanks to the jobkeeper payments we've both still got our jobs....not that there's much happening at work but I'm not complaining.
Then last friday after not hearing back from my best mate for a couple days i went round to check on him.i found him dead on the floor in his bedroom...genetic heart problem.
Then yesterday after his funeral(ripped me up) the mrs gets home and instead of a sympathetic hug and some console, she has a go at me about needing to stack some firewood because she's arranged another load today.
So to sum things up,everythings pretty fucked at the moment.
I'll be ok,never been a quitter but this last few weeks is certainly challenging me.
Stay safe everyone.
Dean

That is a pretty average run mate. My condolences on your Mate and hope your ok. The fact you had to do the Welfare Check and discovered the poor bloke is testament you your friendship and your Character mate. Women can just have bloody blinkers on sometime mate. Your doing great. Take your time. Come here any time mate. we got ya.

[MB]

Bumpity Bump Beautiful Folks!
Crazy times we are all in together 2020.
Professional help is available Nationwide and hopefully Globally too.
From younger days horrible anxiety experiences I personally found just simply (venting/speaking/learning) to become my personal future restart.
Take Care, Stay Safe!







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[MudRunnerTD]

Bumpity Bump Beautiful Folks!
Crazy times we are all in together 2020.
Professional help is available Nationwide and hopefully Globally too.
From younger days horrible anxiety experiences I personally found just simply (venting/speaking/learning) to become my personal future restart.
Take Care, Stay Safe!







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Love ya brother. We need to drink whiskey around a fire mate.

[TPC]

Love ya brother. We need to drink whiskey around a fire mate.

That is my favorite pastime

[jay see]

Just found out that a friend of my son commited suicide yesterday. She was 18.

So sad.

All I could say to him was, whatever is going on just speak to someone, anyone and tell your mates that too.

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[rusty_nail]

Just putting it out there.

I have really been struggling this year.

Some know most of my year but between isolation, especially from interstate friends and family we usually see every few months, a miscarriage early this year, making some poor job decisions(leaving stable employer to seek trade qualification and have had two untrustworthy employers since), ongoing house renovations and and overwhelming task list for it, going through three cars in 12 months due to serious mechanical failures, struggling to support a family and mortgage on an apprentice wage while being the rock of my family the last 8 months have taken their toll on me. Needless to say I have bitten off far more than I can chew.

I have recently started taking antidepressants, they are helping although they just dull emotions. Now finding it very hard to get excited about anything. I speak to friends and all my troubles but nothing compares to just catching up for a beer at the pub type thing.

2020 has been a shit year and hard on everyone. Hopefully 2021 bring a better year

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[jack]

Just putting it out there.

I have really been struggling this year.

Some know most of my year but between isolation, especially from interstate friends and family we usually see every few months, a miscarriage early this year, making some poor job decisions(leaving stable employer to seek trade qualification and have had two untrustworthy employers since), ongoing house renovations and and overwhelming task list for it, going through three cars in 12 months due to serious mechanical failures, struggling to support a family and mortgage on an apprentice wage while being the rock of my family the last 8 months have taken their toll on me. Needless to say I have bitten off far more than I can chew.

I have recently started taking antidepressants, they are helping although they just dull emotions. Now finding it very hard to get excited about anything. I speak to friends and all my troubles but nothing compares to just catching up for a beer at the pub type thing.

2020 has been a shit year and hard on everyone. Hopefully 2021 bring a better year

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Take care Nic, give Tegan and that beautiful baby of yours a big hug, it won’t fix everything but it will make you all feel better for it.
We’re looking ahead to 2021, 2020 is a write off for sure.

[Rossco]

Sorry to hear Nicko, yeah let's hope things turn around 2020 has certainly been a shit one. I think it's especially hard the way things have panned out in Vic it's certainly divided the nation, a bloke at work only just moved down this year from Queensland and stuck in lockdown in the cold and wet while mates in other states are somewhat at a norm. Should take pride in your place you've done an amazing job but know the feeling the list seems to be never ending and overwhelming but sure you'll make it amazing in no time. . .

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[MB]

Our phones are on 24/7 Nic Mate!
You’ve achieved so much with your beautiful family since arriving down here, absolutely guaranteed there are better days to come in the not too distant future Brother!!


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[jay see]

Nic mate your a good bloke and as mentioned above take a step back and have a look at what your got since moving down. Form a shoebox to a home, from a couple to a family. Let those little negatives be the driving force to a better future.

That follow up weekender has to be getting closer.

Chin up mate.

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[rusty_nail]

Thanks for the support guys. As I said it's been a shitty year but between family, friends back home and those of you I know from here it does ease the weight on the mind. Absolutely cannot wait for the lockdown to be over so we can catch up for a beer.

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[MudRunnerTD]

Thanks for the support guys. As I said it's been a shitty year but between family, friends back home and those of you I know from here it does ease the weight on the mind. Absolutely cannot wait for the lockdown to be over so we can catch up for a beer.

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Mate you are carving out a piece of paradise and building your family. You have had some rotten luck but damn! You are carving out a Groove bud. Happiness is but 1 step sideways mate. It is right there. Release the shackles mate. The Positives are seriously Huge Positives. Family and friends trumps shit stuff.

[MB]

Maybe helpful to some, hopefully not taken negatively by others as never intended here.
Personally have been taught some peace in the bad stuff felt throughout life to date simply as challenges towards the good stuff and to chase better outcomes next times.
Life is challenging all over the globe and appears to throw extra whammy’s always to us when least expected through unprepared moments as we thankfully grow older and hopefully pay it forward to next gen etc..
Our brains behind the scenes I believe these days are still subtly hard wired back to basic eat/sleep/shit and scared of big sabre critters taking that away from us.
Keep It Simple Soldiers is my preferred nuffy KISS to ALL [emoji106][emoji106]




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[Plasnart]

Maybe helpful to some, hopefully not taken negatively by others as never intended here.
Personally have been taught some peace in the bad stuff felt throughout life to date simply as challenges towards the good stuff and to chase better outcomes next times.
Life is challenging all over the globe and appears to throw extra whammy’s always to us when least expected through unprepared moments as we thankfully grow older and hopefully pay it forward to next gen etc..
Our brains behind the scenes I believe these days are still subtly hard wired back to basic eat/sleep/shit and scared of big sabre critters taking that away from us.
Keep It Simple Soldiers is my preferred nuffy KISS to ALL [emoji106][emoji106]




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KISS is a great philosophy that does me OK. I'm a simple being and don't deny it.

[MB]

Absolute clarity we all hope for appears to be seen through simplicity maybe Plassy?
Perception I find very complex too, through absolute poverty I’ve witnessed pure joy raising its head over the littlest things.


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[MudRunnerTD]

I am just going to leave this here.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/09/158.jpg

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[AB]

I am just going to leave this here.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/09/158.jpg

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Very true Dazz!


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[growler2058]

Not wanting to do anything. Not wanting to be anything. Not wanting to be at all. I don't necessarily want to die. I just want to have never existed. so depressing.
Mate you should give this mob a call

https://www.beyondblue.org.au/

[Cremulator]

I've always hated the idea that depression is being sad because it's really being hopeless. You aren't having a bad day, you're having a normal day that is miserable and that's how all of the days from now on are going to be.I have to say from personal experience that feeling that way doesn't go on forever. It's a terrible feeling but like any illness your body and mind can get better.

[Az Maksutai]

Usually when I feel depressed I either listen to some special (for me) music or use some chemical products from herbiesheadshop (https://herbiesheadshop.com/) to soothe my emotional discomfort.

[MB]

Music is definitely powerful stuff Az Maksutai Mate [emoji106][emoji106]
Good folks reading must carefully watch their chemical highs & lows though, illicit drugs especially and even legal off the shelf sometimes incorrectly/incompetently prescribed have sadly witnessed too!
The higher we soar the further we have to come down and that pressure differential has seen Old Mates of mine hit rock bottom extremely hard in younger years unfortunately [emoji22]



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[Hodge]

I'll just leave this here .


https://youtu.be/VdaI8elmGaA

[MB]

What a True Legend Old Mate there was for “Apprehensively” making that video to kindly needed share and you too also Hodgey Mate [emoji106][emoji106]
Top True “Weaponary” “Management” “Arsenal” Stuff [emoji3590][emoji3590]
Have Subscribed [emoji120][emoji120]


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[mudski]

Hmm. I need a night off in the bush....

[Hodge]

Hmm. I need a night off in the bush....

Me swags always in the car mate. Just gotta let me know when / where...

[mudski]

Me swags always in the car mate. Just gotta let me know when / where...

Yep I know. We need another weekend and off with Nic and John. That was a cracker of a weekend. But, with the amount of things I need to get done at home right now. I’ll be 80 before I get a weekend free…


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[rusty_nail]

Yep I know. We need another weekend and off with Nic and John. That was a cracker of a weekend. But, with the amount of things I need to get done at home right now. I’ll be 80 before I get a weekend free…


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSometimes you just need a mental health break mate. If 2020 taught me anything, getting overwhelmed by endless growing to do lists is no good, sometimes you just need to call it and have a mental health break. If camping is the think you need then do it!

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[jay see]

Yep I know. We need another weekend and off with Nic and John. That was a cracker of a weekend. But, with the amount of things I need to get done at home right now. I’ll be 80 before I get a weekend free…


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[rusty_nail]

G'day all. Just thought I'd throw a party up here. Not really sure where to begin but I felt like "over" sharing tonight.

This covid seperation bullshit has really gotten the better of me and lately I've been struggling.

For what it's worth I've suffered depression most of my adult life, pretty much since the age of 13 I've struggled with life. I've attempted suicide several times, from cutting myself to attempting to hang myself at my very lowest. For what it's worth, the rope broke, so I'm still here thankfully.

The last 18 months have been extremely hard in my mind, I've seen my local gp, been referred to a clinical psychologist, been prescribed anti depressants, gone off any depressants, and dealt with mental anguish on a daily basis that my doctor describes as PTSD, mainly from bullying in my formative years but is exacerbated by recent challenging workplace situations.

My drive these days is my family, and my kids especially, knowing that they would very much suffer if I wasn't around. I see the joy in my eldest when I spend time with her and it reminds me everytime that if I weren't around how selfish it would be of me.

My friendships of decades are stained at the moment, due to the lockdown situation and distance, I have considered moving back closer to them several times but it just isn't feasible due to the restate market up there. It would just mean that my kids would miss out on the environment we have here in Victoria and I'm not willing to sacrifice that for their sake.

My local friends have become distant, although I've known some for a reasonable amount of time, I don't think our relationship is cemented enough to warrant their thought it inclusion in the current climate.

All this has really amplified my personal insecurities and I'm constantly doubting myself and second guessing my decisions. I spend alot of time driving for my job and time on my own to think about these things are really not great for my mental health.

Not sure where I'm going with this, there isn't any happy ending at the moment. I'm just hoping that with the reopening of be l borders we will be able to get back to some sort of normalcy, and I'll be able to push through this current low part of my life.

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[Cremulator]

Sorry to hear that Nic. It's great that you can talk about it, keep communicating about how you are feeling. It's good for you and those around you.
The fact that you are thinking about your kids and the impact of not being there for them makes you a strong and compassionate person.
Keep it up [emoji106][emoji106]

[jay see]

I've been trying to put something together, but sorry mate nothing seems to come out right. Keep punching through buddy

I hope getting it of your chest helps.

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[MudRunnerTD]

G'day all. Just thought I'd throw a party up here. Not really sure where to begin but I felt like "over" sharing tonight.

This covid seperation bullshit has really gotten the better of me and lately I've been struggling.

For what it's worth I've suffered depression most of my adult life, pretty much since the age of 13 I've struggled with life. I've attempted suicide several times, from cutting myself to attempting to hang myself at my very lowest. For what it's worth, the rope broke, so I'm still here thankfully.

The last 18 months have been extremely hard in my mind, I've seen my local gp, been referred to a clinical psychologist, been prescribed anti depressants, gone off any depressants, and dealt with mental anguish on a daily basis that my doctor describes as PTSD, mainly from bullying in my formative years but is exacerbated by recent challenging workplace situations.

My drive these days is my family, and my kids especially, knowing that they would very much suffer if I wasn't around. I see the joy in my eldest when I spend time with her and it reminds me everytime that if I weren't around how selfish it would be of me.

My friendships of decades are stained at the moment, due to the lockdown situation and distance, I have considered moving back closer to them several times but it just isn't feasible due to the restate market up there. It would just mean that my kids would miss out on the environment we have here in Victoria and I'm not willing to sacrifice that for their sake.

My local friends have become distant, although I've known some for a reasonable amount of time, I don't think our relationship is cemented enough to warrant their thought it inclusion in the current climate.

All this has really amplified my personal insecurities and I'm constantly doubting myself and second guessing my decisions. I spend alot of time driving for my job and time on my own to think about these things are really not great for my mental health.

Not sure where I'm going with this, there isn't any happy ending at the moment. I'm just hoping that with the reopening of be l borders we will be able to get back to some sort of normalcy, and I'll be able to push through this current low part of my life.

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Hey Nicco, Sorry to read this mate. It has certainly been a tough couple of years for all mate with the Covid lockdowns in Vic. You and i know this and many guys on this forum have done it hard. Mental Health is a very difficult thing to manage and many suffer in many ways. I'm here for you any time mate. happy to take a call and have a chat. you know any of the blokes here would welcome you at the fire mate. Make the calls or take the calls, makes no difference, have the chat.

I really want to comment here about your concern around your Local Friends lack of inclusion, and or the strength of your relationships mate. You should not doubt yourself mate, its not fair to you or to any of the local guys here. I consider you a great bloke and you'd be welcome around any fire i sat at mate. Your family is awesome and you are making your way. Lift your head up and straighten your shoulders brother, you are doing a great job.

Im concerned about your comments relating to local mates and assume this may be a reference to the Sneaky High Country trip i posted in the Happy Thread and i really need to address this mate. I need to address this to put your mind at ease and also ensure that my mental health is supported and i dont tear myself down thinking i have missed a step or that i made you feel excluded. This truly was never the intent and never ever purposefully crossed my mind. I can tell you this though, you are not the only Local that has expressed disappointment in not being invited to this gig. It never really was a gig mate.

I started a very small group chat with 4 mates on messenger 6 or 7 years ago that started with a joke or 2, a funny meme and a let's chat, it evolved into My Safe Place. A core group of mates that met on these pages that have told each other plenty in a Safe zone away from Wife, family, work. It evolved into a very tight group of blokes that have been to that edge together and been there in the middle of the night when they are needed. Made those phone calls to drag a mate up off his ass and get his head straight. I never ever thought i would cherish a Messenger Chat as much as i do that one. Each one of the blokes has had his share of shit to deal with and each of the other blokes have just been there as a Shoulder or a Boot. I can tell you mate that it is a safe room. I did not really give much thought to the guys i added to a group post all those years ago but i really never ever thought that 7 years later it would be as important to me as it is. I can tell you it drives my Missus mental sometimes. "You talk to those blokes more than you talk to me :( " The only thing we have in common is Nissan Patrols.... I thought! But it really is my Mens Shed. I have thought about adding guys but im scared shittless of breaking the dynamics so i havent and i wont. I love these guys like my Brothers. We each and all have promised ourselves that stuff that should be on the forum goes on the forum, the Mates Chat and support goes in the chat. I was told off in the Chat for not sharing all my research about Y62s on the forum so i started sharing here rather than there.

My point though is this. The State of Victoria has been locked in a room longer than any other City in the World, as soon as the Lockdown was lifted our chat focused on "Its Time Gents! Lets GO!" It was as Short sighted as that. 5 Blokes locked up for 2 years with a constant chat going that said NOW in Unison. We Decided 10 days ago that the Long Weekend (The first weekend out of lock down) was a very very bad idea. Thank god we did. Butcher Country Track had a 50 car traffic jam on it on Melb Cup weekend.We went a week later and did not see another car Anywhere in the High Country between 8am Saturday and 4pm Monday, Not 1. Anywhere. To be honest it did not cross my mind that we should have a 20 car Forum trip 1st weekend out mate. It was more "Lets get the Band back together". Our Special Secret Spot is a very tough drive in and really is a 35s and Himount kind of location and 3 cars had to winch into camp. I Left home early Friday morning for a 4 day trip as a Navi with Rossco, Matty in the GU was a NO right up until about 4pm Friday after i begged him to come. I did really want him to just jump in with MB but we had left well and truly. Matty in his new pride and joy had to be skull dragged up half of the final track and then winched up by AB's HiMount for the last section. It was pretty brutal on his car. silly bugger. he definitely went home with new battle scars on his Brand New paintwork.

There will be time enough for all of us mate, i promise. everyone on this forum is chomping at the bit to get out. This trip evolved from our tight chat and we all had blinkers on mate. Lets go Right now that is all. Nobody was excluded mate, we just did not look sideways bud. There really was No Intent to exclude anyone. Those that have got this far in my dribble and also disappointed at not making the list.... There was No List.

I can honestly say that i did not at any time think "Should we invite anyone else?" It did not even cross my mind mate. Sorry i feel bad. i sincerely apologies to you and others. There was No Intent. Small trip, Hard location, No time, Lets go. I did Not take the 62. No Chance.

I dont know if this helps you or hinders you mate, sorry bud. I am terrible for dwelling on stuff and my worst enemy is the voice in my head. I too see a Counsellor every 4 or 5 weeks and have done for 4 years. This is not a failing, your mental state is not a failure. You are a great guy. There will be plenty more trips mate. How do you reckon i went explaining to my 10yo daughter that i was going camping without her. She found out on a group chat with her friends on Messenger for Kids! She was pretty pissed. We will find the time mate, i promise.

Happy to chat any time mate.

[rusty_nail]

Hey mate, I haven't read it all, I'm just getting up and ready for work, I see your thinking something about your camping trip? Sorry mate, didn't mean that at all, without a doubt 100% I'll read it soon but just wanted to clarify that

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[rusty_nail]

Hey Nicco,

All
The
Stuff
Dazza
Wrote.

Happy to chat any time mate.

Hey mate, no need to dwell on any of my comments thinking it was meant about you lot. I won't go into it but it definitely wasn't meant about you guys or the trip, I did see your post and think fk that would have been good to Navi on the lucky buggers, but it wouldn't have worked anyway, I had work and the first weekend I spent out of lockdown on a 2500k trip with not much time spent with the family. I had to do the right thing and spend time with the kids and wife.

This whole lockdown stuff has really messed up stuff for everyone I reckon. Before covid I had what I would say is a good work, family and social balance which really helped with my mental health but now all I'm doing is working at work and working at home as it's all I can do and it's done my head in for the last two years.

I just can't wait to get back to being able to find that happy place and mending the scars that have opened up again.

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[BrazilianY60]

I started a very small group chat with 4 mates on messenger 6 or 7 years ago that started with a joke or 2, a funny meme and a let's chat, it evolved into My Safe Place. A core group of mates that met on these pages that have told each other plenty in a Safe zone away from Wife, family, work.

Interesting to see this put in those words. I have a similar group of buddies, that have been "virtually around" for some 20 years now. Not a single one on the same town, one even moved to another country. And our chat is exactly that, safe away from wife, family work. Never thought of it as "my safe place" as you described it, but it is exactly what that is.

Thanks for sharing.

And rusty, make that joy your eldest has in spending time with you yours as well. That's good "medicine" that you can treat yourself to.

[mudnut]

I just learned that a good, younger friend has been pulled back from the brink, barely. Please talk to someone, anyone. Its not the people who you don't love, but those who do that suffer for your actions.

[NissanGQ4.2]

Well after this week / weekend dealing with my 15 year old daughter self harming again and has for the past few years I think I've finally hit rock bottom mentally. Took her 2 ER yesterday hoping that they could prescribe her meds as nothing else seems 2 be working and after a 5hr wait my partner got told ( I couldn't go in with them ) my local GP should of prescribed her and they didn't want 2 prescribe her on a the weekend. Today we took her 2 different local GP as not 2 happy with our current 1 and got a referral letter 2 a Psychiatrist.

Seems 2 be all one big run around at a big $$$ cost ( Happy 2 fork out all I have $$$ wise if they do something 2 actually help her, seems unless they actually attempt suicide, self harming just goes under the radar :(

I think what has totally destroyed my sole is seeing my partner whom cops it most from her and arranges the doctors etc wear down 2 the point she thinks she might need meds as well.

I started working on the new GQ months ago 2 get things done for it 2 pass a blue slip before my current shit box car runs out of rego in September, but for the past few months I have lost all interest and all motivation, even and some on hear knows about my firewood collecting habits I've even lost interest and motivation in that

[growler2058]

You probably need to book into someone yourself man

[mudnut]

Sorry to read of your situation. You've got to look after yourself before you can look after anyone else. So glad you have a referal to a Psyc. They specialise where a GP has only a smattering of experience. (Had a GP make matters worse by prescribing the wrong drug.) I hope your daughter recovers quickly and your quality of life improves with it.

[MB]

Toddstar Old Mate [emoji3590][emoji3590]
There is Genuinely FREE Australian help out here for Yourself & Your Beautiful Proud Littlens Brother [emoji123][emoji123]
Please do not financially feel unable, last I checked there was no shame in simply chatting with a say Cognitive Therapist for 12 X sessions paid if needed [emoji1037][emoji120][emoji120]


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[PeeBee]

A GP can assign a "mental health plan' that is covered by medicare for 12 initial visits then extended as required. As MB suggests, the services are avail, however no doubt there may be a waiting list within the public health system.

[NissanGQ4.2]

Thanks guys, means a lot

It's going 2 be a long hard slug, daughter is booked in for a Psychologists appointment on Tuesday ( I don't really want her on mends ) but I'm hoping it will control her anxiety enough for her 2 see past the self harm and thoughts of suicide. We had had another call from her school the other day where she threatened suicide again:(

Cheers again guys for the support here

[MB]

Leading a Horse to water Toddstar Mate is the best Start Possible [emoji3590][emoji3590][emoji120][emoji120]


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[BigRAWesty]

Thanks guys, means a lot

It's going 2 be a long hard slug, daughter is booked in for a Psychologists appointment on Tuesday ( I don't really want her on mends ) but I'm hoping it will control her anxiety enough for her 2 see past the self harm and thoughts of suicide. We had had another call from her school the other day where she threatened suicide again:(

Cheers again guys for the support hereHow is the family travelling these days bloke. Hopefully improving

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[RDiToro]

Hi Bloodyaussie,
I'm new, literally just signed up. I'm on the tail end of an identical situation. I know yours is 10 years ago now, but I thought I'd check in and see how you're travelling.

I hope you're in a better place, but happy to talk if needed.

Regards,

Rob

[MudRunnerTD]

Hi Bloodyaussie,
I'm new, literally just signed up. I'm on the tail end of an identical situation. I know yours is 10 years ago now, but I thought I'd check in and see how you're travelling.

I hope you're in a better place, but happy to talk if needed.

Regards,

Rob

Cheers mate, BA left the forum many years ago. The thread is solid though and good on you for checking in bid, feel free to reach out to me or in this thread any time mate.

[NissanGQ4.2]

How is the family travelling these days bloke. Hopefully improving

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She's on meds and doing better, still has her lows but the self cutting and threats off self harm are a lot less frequent, unfortunately a man approached her while on her walk 2 school the other morning and said something on the lines off " do you go **** high school ( she was in school uniform ) and then said he would be at the school that afternoon she didn't talk back and ran 2 school. Freaked her out and now on edge :(

How have you been mate? I haven't been on the forum much these days

[BigRAWesty]

She's on meds and doing better, still has her lows but the self cutting and threats off self harm are a lot less frequent, unfortunately a man approached her while on her walk 2 school the other morning and said something on the lines off " do you go **** high school ( she was in school uniform ) and then said he would be at the school that afternoon she didn't talk back and ran 2 school. Freaked her out and now on edge :(

How have you been mate? I haven't been on the forum much these daysSo gut-wrenching when something like that happens and it causes a relapse.
I hope it's a quick heal this time.
Yea I've been good. Been a while since I've been here but plan to stay in touch a lot more.
How about yourself bloke. Are you keeping well?

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[NissanGQ4.2]

So gut-wrenching when something like that happens and it causes a relapse.
I hope it's a quick heal this time.
Yea I've been good. Been a while since I've been here but plan to stay in touch a lot more.
How about yourself bloke. Are you keeping well?

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Yeh kinda sucks when shit like that happens, she's like her mum and way overthinks stuff in her head. She got her L's a while back but has only driven a few times with me and freaked out.... mind u we where in a very quite area hardly any cars around. booked a lesson but it got canned as it was pissing down, I asked her this 2night if she had re-booked a lesson yet and got " I'm 2 scared of driving " She hears of car accidents and automatically thinks that's what will happen 2 her :(

Yeh I'm good mate, covid again.... really bummed I don't get 7 days off work though :(

Daughter caught it first them me, somehow the missus still hasn't had it and my son never got it either this time around.

I'm winning the race though

Me= Twice
Daughter= Once
Son= Once
Partner= Zero

[BigRAWesty]

Yeh kinda sucks when shit like that happens, she's like her mum and way overthinks stuff in her head. She got her L's a while back but has only driven a few times with me and freaked out.... mind u we where in a very quite area hardly any cars around. booked a lesson but it got canned as it was pissing down, I asked her this 2night if she had re-booked a lesson yet and got " I'm 2 scared of driving " She hears of car accidents and automatically thinks that's what will happen 2 her :(

Yeh I'm good mate, covid again.... really bummed I don't get 7 days off work though :(

Daughter caught it first them me, somehow the missus still hasn't had it and my son never got it either this time around.

I'm winning the race though

Me= Twice
Daughter= Once
Son= Once
Partner= ZeroSounds like you need to go find an abattoirs or warehouse parking lot where there is nothing and start small.
She'll get there.
Fkn covid ey. Can't belive it's still around.. such a PITA.
Hopefully your on the mend.

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[MB]

July 1st me thinks/read? Australia will be the first country to legalise medical trials of Psychedelics for the truly needing [emoji120][emoji120][emoji736][emoji736][emoji322][emoji322]

EDIT: DO NOT, Fark this Up Australia and make a mockery of IT like Woodstock Recreational’s [emoji23][emoji23]

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[Hodge]

G'day all. How are ya mate? Really hope everyone's well around here. Been a whole while between beers, chats and keystrokes.
If someone asked me a while back , I'd be posting in this thread from "my end" I'd tell 'em to get off the crack. Thought I was a tough gig. But here I am.
Check in on your physical and mental health every now and then. One mental or physical "not so right" niggle, that you've tucked away in the back of your mind, can and will open up a barrel of worms.
Amidst all that, when you have people you know, some closely, friends, mates, work-mates, ending their journey in the bush (I've had 3 in 4 years), it doesn't help the solitude.

PS. Shake their hand, hug them, tell them how you fell, to your loved, dearest ones, because life / fate, or whatever you believe in, can and will shovel shit your face at every chance it gets.

PSS. I've still got the old girl. So i still belong here. She literally just clicked 200k. Love this car. Just add diesel... and away you go.

PSSS. Hope some of you know/follow this bloke. He's a good guy driving a 4.2 Patrol around the beautiful WA. But he's got a video outside the Patrol spectrum. A really good watch if you got some spare time and bandwidth...

It's good to read your all.



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[BigRAWesty]

G'day all. How are ya mate? Really hope everyone's well around here. Been a whole while between beers, chats and keystrokes.
If someone asked me a while back , I'd be posting in this thread from "my end" I'd tell 'em to get off the crack. Thought I was a tough gig. But here I am.
Check in on your physical and mental health every now and then. One mental or physical "not so right" niggle, that you've tucked away in the back of your mind, can and will open up a barrel of worms.
Amidst all that, when you have people you know, some closely, friends, mates, work-mates, ending their journey in the bush (I've had 3 in 4 years), it doesn't help the solitude.

PS. Shake their hand, hug them, tell them how you fell, to your loved, dearest ones, because life / fate, or whatever you believe in, can and will shovel shit your face at every chance it gets.

PSS. I've still got the old girl. So i still belong here. She literally just clicked 200k. Love this car. Just add diesel... and away you go.

PSSS. Hope some of you know/follow this bloke. He's a good guy driving a 4.2 Patrol around the beautiful WA. But he's got a video outside the Patrol spectrum. A really good watch if you got some spare time and bandwidth...

It's good to read your all.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdaI8elmGaAHodge great to hear from you.
Hows life? And the fam?

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[BigRAWesty]

How's everybody feeling?

Doing well. Yourself?

[MB]

How's everybody feeling?

Please DO tell Yourself, after a serious question in a serious thread HG mate? [emoji22][emoji22]


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[Plasnart]

Perhaps THE greatest talk to I’ve ever had.

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[GregRT]

Perhaps THE greatest talk to I’ve ever had.

https://youtu.be/t7ArpiaAn8Y?si=gCJO4V76bQLpoXNf

Great words there!

[MudRunnerTD]

Perhaps THE greatest talk to I’ve ever had.

https://youtu.be/t7ArpiaAn8Y?si=gCJO4V76bQLpoXNf

What a great dude. Smashed the Subscribe button!! Thanks Plas