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16th December 2014, 07:12 AM
#71
Travelling Podologist
Originally Posted by
macca
If he thinks he is going to a heavenly place with a harem of virgins, well mister you are just dead, you are no more and you get nothing!
I am angry...
I am angry too.
He was never going to go to a good place, the man was a violent animal who twisted religion to suit himself.
The world is better off without him.
My thoughts are with the innocent victims & their families.
I hope that the acts of this violent criminal result in more people standing up to show they understand that he is not representative of what he claims to be.
The ‘I’ll ride with you’ response http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/martin-pla...15-127rm1.html cannot undo the harm that the victims of this event have suffered but it, & similar sentiments, can send the message to others like this animal that their actions don’t achieve what they expect, as well as reassuring our whole community that most people are good caring citizens.
We cannot afford to let ourselves be pushed into a defensive corner by the actions of a few ...... it’s precisely what they want.
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16th December 2014 07:12 AM
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16th December 2014, 07:23 AM
#72
I've decided to flip off the TV and read the reports, the stupidity of many of the media hosts and reporters is extremely frustrating !!!
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16th December 2014, 07:25 AM
#73
Originally Posted by
Cuppa
I am angry too.
He was never going to go to a good place, the man was a violent animal who twisted religion to suit himself.
The world is better off without him.
My thoughts are with the innocent victims & their families.
I hope that the acts of this violent criminal result in more people standing up to show they understand that he is not representative of what he claims to be.
The ‘I’ll ride with you’ response
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/martin-pla...15-127rm1.html cannot undo the harm that the victims of this event have suffered but it, & similar sentiments, can send the message to others like this animal that their actions don’t achieve what they expect, as well as reassuring our whole community that most people are good caring citizens.
We cannot afford to let ourselves be pushed into a defensive corner by the actions of a few ...... it’s precisely what they want.
This is right and I am sick of having to live in a world where we are supposed to live in fear of attack and where we have to give up our freedoms in the name of security.... to be honest I have more chance of being stabbed or beaten by some dickhead in my area in a roadrage then I do getting blown up in a terrorist attack but it seems stuff all gets done about that and we seem to be so use to this it has become the norm..
And yes I am bloody upset as to the outcome... very rare that it does not end well and 2 dead is so sad but the outcome could have been so much worse.
My thoughts go out to the friends and family of the deceased.
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16th December 2014, 07:30 AM
#74
get ready...it was just a feeler...they said yesterday he was middle age and it is the elders influencing and teaching the younger..he will be a martre now...he killed an infidel in the name of..this was new to here but it isn't new anymore...the best people to have handled this were inside ...but they just didn't know it ..now the fear is here in this country and fear at the right moment will bring out extraordinary things in even the weakest person especially if collectively....as said before ..f*"k waiting to see what outcome will be ...what his intentions are ...why etc etc...he came armed , he intended to hurt , he instilled fear ,he wasn't going home again , ...if you want to wait around to psycho analyse this shit as an individual and believe that violence begets violence then you are living in la la land ...it wont matter anymore if you know people of the same religion and
consider them good...it will erupt soon now and they will definitely be looked at in a different light ...and feared...we have given them nothing to fear here yet ...the end result of giving them time to be analysed is on the news now...it may have happened anyway but not like lambs to the slaughter....if he survived , in this country,he probably would have only been given 6 months wholly suspended...if you want to stand on the self righteous pedestal re; the soft approach , violence doesn't help , we are the same as him if we kill him , etc then get out of the road or as said before ...wake up
the one thing wrong with middle age ...is knowing you will grow out of it !
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16th December 2014, 07:40 AM
#75
CERTIFIABLY INSANE
^^^umm what?
He was acting alone and had other legal grievances. This has nothing to do with IS. It has everything to do with a nutter acting as a criminal. Best to check the facts on this individual first.
This is a horrific event for those involved and my thoughts are with the families of the folk who were killed but like BA said, there is more likelihood of me being stabbed in the street than this happening again.
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16th December 2014, 07:43 AM
#76
Daily Lurker
didnt make it on the forum yesterday and just saw this. It was tegan and my engagement party on saturday and we took yesterday off to relax from the weekend. her work is not even 100m from the lindt cafe and i cant imagine what would have been going through my head if she went to work yesterday. were very lucky that we took the day off together.
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16th December 2014, 07:49 AM
#77
Travelling Podologist
Originally Posted by
menace 2
get ready...it was just a feeler...they said yesterday he was middle age and it is the elders influencing and teaching the younger..he will be a martre now...he killed an infidel in the name of..this was new to here but it isn't new anymore...the best people to have handled this were inside ...but they just didn't know it ..now the fear is here in this country and fear at the right moment will bring out extraordinary things in even the weakest person especially if collectively....as said before ..f*"k waiting to see what outcome will be ...what his intentions are ...why etc etc...he came armed , he intended to hurt , he instilled fear ,he wasn't going home again , ...if you want to wait around to psycho analyse this shit as an individual and believe that violence begets violence then you are living in la la land ...it wont matter anymore if you know people of the same religion and
consider them good...it will erupt soon now and they will definitely be looked at in a different light ...and feared...we have given them nothing to fear here yet ...the end result of giving them time to be analysed is on the news now...it may have happened anyway but not like lambs to the slaughter....if he survived , in this country,he probably would have only been given 6 months wholly suspended...if you want to stand on the self righteous pedestal re; the soft approach , violence doesn't help , we are the same as him if we kill him , etc then get out of the road or as said before ...wake up
We are all entitled to our opinions. I don’t share yours but we must be careful not to let it divide us. I believe your response is what people like him want. He was no more representative of Islamic faith than my big toe. He may have seen himself as a martyr, but he wasn’t. If we allow ourselves to believe that he was he will have achieved his aim.
Don’t let him win.
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16th December 2014, 07:51 AM
#78
Enjoying the trips
Originally Posted by
Cuppa
twisted religion to suit himself.
Through out history, long past and recent we have see this all too often.
Originally Posted by
Drewboyaus
This has nothing to do with IS.
He asked for their flag, probably to add more shock value to his actions, if he wanted one why did he not take it with him?
Originally Posted by
HuskyInAuz
I've decided to flip off the TV and read the reports, the stupidity of many of the media hosts and reporters is extremely frustrating !!!
Me too, they go over and over the same piece and drive me nuts.
Last edited by macca; 16th December 2014 at 07:55 AM.
Cheers
Macca
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16th December 2014, 08:15 AM
#79
Patrol Guru
This guy was a known extremist why was he still in the country? He should have been in Guantanamo living with the C.I.A for a few years.
In any moment of decision, the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.
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16th December 2014, 08:20 AM
#80
Expert
We can not afford to be extreme in our reactions. The vast majority of people who follow the Muslim faith in Australia are good, honest, hard working, tax paying, Australians.
They are no more responsible for what happened than the rest of us.
The system does need to change in how we deal with extremists, but we do not need to become extremists ourselves.
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