Help - Hubby wants defender I want Patrol!!!

[BillsGU]

The answer is simple.....


Get a NEW HUBBY !!!!!!!

[taslucas]

The answer is simple.....


Get a NEW HUBBY !!!!!!!

Hahaha!! Yep, easy fix!!

Lucas

[gf0012-aust]

there's horror stories and there's horror stories. mixed stories from me as I've had defenders and disco's as work vehicles when overseas
my first job was fixing landies - and I still have a soft spot for them. like all marques they have their quirks and character bits. I currently have 3 x 4wds. a patrol swb, a maverick lwb and a range rover classic with a 351windsor and C4 conversion.

the rangie is the more capable 4wd by a golden mile, and is the more fun to drive, but if I was going long distance I'd take the maverick for loadability or the gq for economy (dual fuel). although the rangie can be excused because it has a 351 in it, its still got the range of a drunken cat even on dual fuel. the rangie classics are basically the same drive train as a disco 1. I wouldn't sell any of these vehicles, they are all keepers as far as I'm concerned (had the rangie for 14 years and its never caused me grief. those drivetrains are bulletproof. disco drivetrains are in the same vein. I drove discos in spain and india for work and they were like the ever-ready bunny, they just kept on going and going. interestingly enough some of the terrain in india is just as challenging as it is in australia - and they've got less dealer support by some margin. they do have some smart "bush mechanics" though.

I'd add that I get my pommy parts straight from the UK or europe as australian dealers rape you three ways, as you come in, while you're in and while you walk out. although I have to may the rangie/disco/defender dealer at Black Forest in Adelaide is the most honest one I came across. At that point I was looking at trading in the rangie for a disco/defender. I stayed with the rangie as I wasn't keen on disco computers packing up when bush. Its also the reason why I have a mav and gq - no computers to break and basically anyone who has lifted a spanner can work on it. I like the defender (es the 130's) but parts comparisons were frightening at times.

I did look at a disco 3 last year but decided against it (electronics and through life costs scared me off) at the end of the day the support network for nissans and toyotas trumps anything landrover can do, so its a big winner.

If I was back in europe I'd buy a defender in a heartbeat, parts are cheap, the mechanics know what they're doing and the support network is amazing - but the only rival for the gq shorty for me is a landrover 90 series.

[BIG BERTO]

hi: i will go with the deferder. i has had to much problems with the nissan patrol i had two. in the other hand my brother had 4 defenders and had o problems, good look

[lortapug]

Hi Kizzie. I can see exactly where you are coming from. I am jumping ship from Toyota to Nissan. I have driven quite a few Defenders and have had a longish relationship with a mate's 130 Defender. As has been noted elsewhere, out of the box they are probably the most capable off road vehicle there is. But they have their downside. I won't get too technical. Water, dust, noise, build quality etc. All these things are fixable but need a lot of time and dollars to do so. They are actually very comfortable to drive. However, if you like comfort, a quieter ride, and a better place for the kids to be in on long trips then the Defender is probably not for you. In my case, if I only had to consider myself, then I would probably have gone with a Defender. My wife made it quite clear if I got a Defender I would be travelling alone. She likes the GU Patrol. I like the GU Patrol.

As good as the Defenders are, in your case, I recommend you get the Patrol. Tell hubby to pull his head in and consider you first. The Patrol will go anywhere a Defender will. Good luck with whatever decision you make.

[LittleJohn]

2011??? grenade??

someone's got that wrong for certain..

Tell hubby, he can adopt all us if he get the troll.

honestly, do whatever you have to, to stop him from buying the deffender,
even if it means you have to buy him a H1 Hummer eve\n !

Best of luck Kizzie

[The Tank]

The defender that your hubby is after is not the defender that we all know and some of us have used . The new defender is simply an uncomfortable suv without any of the robustness that made landrover a natural choice for comonwealth forces worldwide. If he was after the old TD5 or even the older 300TDi then you would be saving enough money to pay easily for the chiropracters bills over the life of the vehicle and have a proven vehicle that although famously uncomfortable and not that reliable would be quite capable off road. The new defender has a new everything and that is where the problem lies...nobody knows how good or bad they are, or how long they will last, all they have going for them is the image and reputation of the old defender which let's face it wasn't that great anyway unless you were an Army and could afford the inventory and downtime to maintain them. A new Patrol or even a Discovery3 would be my choice but certainly not a new defender.

[cookpa]

go to www.google.com.au and type in "complaints corner" its great website on car faults and then have a look at the list of car owners complaints about the defender then check out what type of faults, that should turn you off , there will be a list of nissan faults too but they are for the older model zd30 motor 3 litre

[Mrowka]

The Defender straight off the showroom floor is probably the most capable vehicle in difficult terrain that you can buy.

There is lots more to 4x4 than capability. Obstacles you can usually go around if you've got any sense, but breakdowns can happen anywhere, and capability will not help you then.

Rover and Nissan (and Toyota) approach 4x4 design in different ways: Rover is largely a specialist builder of purpose-built 4x4s. If I were to design a 4x4 from the ground up, I'd hoist a lot of Rover's design ideas.

Nissan and Toyota are generalist builders which produce 4x4s designed around the lessons learned from a long history of building practical and reliable passenger cars. This is why you see so many toddling around in places like Afghanistan and Africa.

[Barney Rubble]

So Kizzie.. how did we go? Is your hubby going to join the forum? What did you end up deciding on?