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20th August 2020, 08:25 PM
#1
Looking for advice
Hi,
My son is considering getting an early 2000's GU Patrol as his first car. I'll admit to knowing very little about Patrols but have seen plenty doing well on tough tracks. I'll start with a couple of basic questions -
Petrol or Diesel - I personally prefer Diesels but both are an option. If diesel 4.2 or 3.0?
what are the known common problems to look out for.
Have heard of dash cracking, Steering wobbles, problems with 3.0 diesel,
Were any common problems fixed from series 1 to 4?
Roughly how many K's before engine starts to have problems.
I know some of these things will vary based on how well the vehicle was maintained. Looking for rough idea only.
Cheers
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20th August 2020 08:25 PM
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20th August 2020, 08:36 PM
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G’day Stricky Mate!
Super depends on your sons budget and needs IMHO.
By the sounds of it “tracks” I’m assuming mountains & mud where a diesel 4.2TD and or TD42Ti which all ended in late 2006 very early 2007 would be my personal pick albeit you’ll find some double the price of a 3.0L diesel and cheaper again for fast beach smashing yet guzzling petrols.
Nissans smaller diesels of that vintage will require some bullet proofing mods and realistic expectations too as all GU’s are heavy off the showroom floor.
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20th August 2020, 11:23 PM
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Patrol Freak
Gday Stricky
very hard to answer very quickly,
but
1. petrol v's diesel
depends on how many kms your young bloke is expecting to do per week, per year, and or if he is planning on towing every day
if not - go the petrol
more $$$ per km, but cheaper to buy initially. the price difference alone will get you maybe 2 to 5 years worth of fuel
petrol
TB45, I have been told its a slug, but it is 3000kgs out of the box, shaped like a brick - so meh
TB48, a rocket, but thirsty as well
diesel
RD28, good little motor, prone to being over worked as it is a small 6cyl, in a BIG car
ZD30, as long as she has been looked after, will give you mile of fun and enjoyment - abused she can be a nasty money hungry bitch to own and run
CRD3.0 updated ZD with a little more power, and a lot more forgiving to owners
TD42, a bullet proof slug, if looked after many many many mile of smiles, do not over heat them, because they cost an arm and a leg to repair
Tidy Whitey - 99 GU TD42Ti - Diesel Gas, (GUIV Turbo & Intercooler 8Lb boost), 33" Micky T's Baja MTZ's, Dual Batt's, Cargo Barrier, rear draws, HID Super Oscars, winch, Grinch & witch attached and more goodies to come
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20th August 2020, 11:32 PM
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Patrol Freak
dash cracking - only on one particular year - and i dont know which from memory, but most were replaced by warranty, only lazy people didnt - much like the airbag recalls
wheel wobbles, there is a thread about them and how to fix
Tidy Whitey - 99 GU TD42Ti - Diesel Gas, (GUIV Turbo & Intercooler 8Lb boost), 33" Micky T's Baja MTZ's, Dual Batt's, Cargo Barrier, rear draws, HID Super Oscars, winch, Grinch & witch attached and more goodies to come
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21st August 2020, 08:34 AM
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Thanks for the replies. My son will not be doing any towing, but he certainly is looking for rock/mountains/mud fun over touring (borrows my 4wd for that). Only thing I am still not sure about is the number K's. I would assume this would vary between the Petrol and Diesel and how well maintained which can be hard to gauge. Once he gets the vehicle I will encourage him to join a 4wd club as I have found them a great way to learn as well as lots of fun.
Cheers
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21st August 2020, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by
stricky
Thanks for the replies. My son will not be doing any towing, but he certainly is looking for rock/mountains/mud fun over touring (borrows my 4wd for that). Only thing I am still not sure about is the number K's. I would assume this would vary between the Petrol and Diesel and how well maintained which can be hard to gauge. Once he gets the vehicle I will encourage him to join a 4wd club as I have found them a great way to learn as well as lots of fun.
Cheers
I put a Turbo on my GQ TD42 at 350,000kms and never looked back. I upgraded the Turbo and Big Fuel pump on my GUIV TD42Ti at 320,000kms and it loves it. I would call that High kms for any other variant.
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Wish it was Nissan though, Toyotas just can't keep up with the Pootrol pace.
The only good thing about an 80 series is..... the front end?? Wrong!!, the Engine?? Wrong!! the Full Time 4WD system?? Wrong!! Its the NissanPatrol.com.au stubby holder fitted over the transfer lever.
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21st August 2020, 10:56 AM
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I'm running a 97 series 1 GU TB45e that has been on lg for 9 years. I've own it for the last 6 (I think), it's got over 500,000km. It's not rocket ship and really hates the long inclines, but drop a gear or 2 (auto) and it will pull all day long. On the tracks it keeps up with all the others and on the black stuff too. As for fuel I only recently replaced the fuel pump as it was only working on about 10.5 volts. Now I'm good for around 2-300 KMs on petrol (I've got the largest sub tank that can be fitted 70 odd litres) and 4-450 KMs on gas.
If he's seriously going to be remote touring he'll need a diesel. I managed to get around Tasmania a few years going with only a 30 litre petrol tank and gas isn't available everywhere like in Victoria.
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23rd August 2020, 01:47 AM
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G’day again Stricky & Son Mates!
Time to be Frank :-)
Now that your interests are:
“rock/mountains/mud”
Safety wise for a young bloke, in fact any aged blokes/sheilas, you should honestly seek a 4.2L slug diesel variant for those tracks planned.
Reasons being such as but not limited too IMHO :-)
*Smaller cylinder donks do not have the compression to safely lower your boy down a gnarly track without braking, likewise uphill he’ll be spinning high rpm wheels instead of torque crawling. Yes we can add transfer case reduction gears to any petrol powered donk but bet you’ll never get close to a 999,000km faithful potential simple 4.2L donk too!
Don’t let your young mate get too over zealous about ‘turbos’ too in his applications. 95% of the driving you are kindly suggesting would be below 1,500rpm and perfect TD42 NA grunt low range transfer box more than capable.
Still cracks me up to this day how many 2,500rpm weapons can’t perform at say 900rpm :-)
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23rd August 2020, 01:51 AM
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24th August 2020, 09:01 AM
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[QUOTE=MB;807898]G’day again Stricky & Son Mates!
Time to be Frank :-)
Now that your interests are:
“rock/mountains/mud”
Safety wise for a young bloke, in fact any aged blokes/sheilas, you should honestly seek a 4.2L slug diesel variant for those tracks planned.
Reasons being such as but not limited too IMHO :-)
*Smaller cylinder donks do not have the compression to safely lower your boy down a gnarly track without braking, likewise uphill he’ll be spinning high rpm wheels instead of torque crawling. Yes we can add transfer case reduction gears to any petrol powered donk but bet you’ll never get close to a 999,000km faithful potential simple 4.2L donk too!
Don’t let your young mate get too over zealous about ‘turbos’ too in his applications. 95% of the driving you are kindly suggesting would be below 1,500rpm and perfect TD42 NA grunt low range transfer box more than capable.
Still cracks me up to this day how many 2,500rpm weapons can’t perform at say 900rpm :-)
Thanks, This is great advice. I think sometimes you can get lost in all the options, but most times you are just looking for a reliable fun vehicle. He currently drives my diesel 4Wd so he is used to not having a great amount of take off speed.
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