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28th November 2018, 01:13 PM
#501
Moderator
Originally Posted by
AB
Absolutely but its both and give and take. would probably equate to 31-33" on 4.3's maybe?
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Originally Posted by
Rogue Dung Beetle
Wish it was Nissan though, Toyotas just can't keep up with the Pootrol pace.
The only good thing about an 80 series is..... the front end?? Wrong!!, the Engine?? Wrong!! the Full Time 4WD system?? Wrong!! Its the NissanPatrol.com.au stubby holder fitted over the transfer lever.
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28th November 2018 01:13 PM
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28th November 2018, 01:16 PM
#502
The 747
Originally Posted by
AB
Absolutely but its both and give and take. would probably equate to 31-33" on 4.3's maybe?
Yeah would be equal to 33s on 4.3s and 31s on 4.1s
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28th November 2018, 01:40 PM
#503
The 747
Originally Posted by
MudRunnerTD
Im feeling a little better....
Certainly doesn't make up the difference though mate, not even close.
Like we discussed, if you are happy with what you've got then leave it but it certainly shows what you can do.
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28th November 2018, 06:20 PM
#504
Administrator
Yep if anything Rosscos should be lacking more with the tyres V ratios.
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28th November 2018, 07:28 PM
#505
Legendary
Definitely feels very strong in the bottom end and does love to pull around the 2k mark and is quite different to before, kindo used to it having nothing then coming in form 1500 ish. Even in neutral can tell the difference when you give it a little rev sounds pretty beastly now. Need to drive it a bit more to get more of a feel for it. Interesting to see the difference between mine & Daz's seeing their such similar setups, sounds like his loves pulling in the top end where as mine seems happier in the bottom wonder if that is down to tuning? ? Either way both setups sounds good, proof is in the pudding if it's good to drive happy days. .
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28th November 2018, 09:04 PM
#506
Moderator
Originally Posted by
AB
Yep if anything Rosscos should be lacking more with the tyres V ratios.
Id have thought that his rev range at 75kmh would be similar to mine at 85kmh. So the missing link in comparing the readouts is that mine doesnt show RPM which would really show the differential.
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Originally Posted by
Rogue Dung Beetle
Wish it was Nissan though, Toyotas just can't keep up with the Pootrol pace.
The only good thing about an 80 series is..... the front end?? Wrong!!, the Engine?? Wrong!! the Full Time 4WD system?? Wrong!! Its the NissanPatrol.com.au stubby holder fitted over the transfer lever.
WARNING: Towballs used for recoveries can, and do kill people and damage property.
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28th November 2018, 10:18 PM
#507
Patrol God
Originally Posted by
MudRunnerTD
Thats got my attention mate. Kinda lagging a little by comparison. And 120 extra newton metres.
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Its all irrelevant on the dyno. It has corrections in place for the calculation. We have been seeing this quite a bit and you can see it on ABs setup. A silvertop cam will bring on everything earlier over the t/ti cam.
Without actually worrying about what the numbers say the silvertop cam will roughly do everything aroind 400rpm earlier.
Also dont get to caught up in the differences between the dyno printouts. Dynos are just tools that we use for diagnostics and comparison. Trying to compare them to each other is very difficult.
Last edited by nissannewby; 28th November 2018 at 10:26 PM.
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28th November 2018, 10:42 PM
#508
Patrol God
This is the closest thing I have to be able to show you the difference. These 2 patrols have a very similar setup. Both bw turbos, both ruben 12mm, both front mounts.
Laying them over each other like this corrects them as if they were both done in similar conditions. Even though these 2 vehicles were done on the same dyno 1 after the other. The main difference one is a silvertop one is a td42t. Curves are basically the same shape but the silvertop does everything earlier. Peak numbers are similar.
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28th November 2018, 11:26 PM
#509
Moderator
Originally Posted by
nissannewby
This is the closest thing I have to be able to show you the difference. These 2 patrols have a very similar setup. Both bw turbos, both ruben 12mm, both front mounts.
Laying them over each other like this corrects them as if they were both done in similar conditions. Even though these 2 vehicles were done on the same dyno 1 after the other. The main difference one is a silvertop one is a td42t. Curves are basically the same shape but the silvertop does everything earlier. Peak numbers are similar.
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Interesting. Thats basically the difference i see between Roasco and mine.
I have copied this convo from Roascos dynos onwards over to the turbo thread as its interesting and adds value there.
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....... I'm a lucky bugger! I've got 2 of em!
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Originally Posted by
Rogue Dung Beetle
Wish it was Nissan though, Toyotas just can't keep up with the Pootrol pace.
The only good thing about an 80 series is..... the front end?? Wrong!!, the Engine?? Wrong!! the Full Time 4WD system?? Wrong!! Its the NissanPatrol.com.au stubby holder fitted over the transfer lever.
WARNING: Towballs used for recoveries can, and do kill people and damage property.
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29th November 2018, 06:51 AM
#510
Administrator
Originally Posted by
nissannewby
Its all irrelevant on the dyno. It has corrections in place for the calculation. We have been seeing this quite a bit and you can see it on ABs setup. A silvertop cam will bring on everything earlier over the t/ti cam.
Without actually worrying about what the numbers say the silvertop cam will roughly do everything aroind 400rpm earlier.
Also dont get to caught up in the differences between the dyno printouts. Dynos are just tools that we use for diagnostics and comparison. Trying to compare them to each other is very difficult.
I assume they do corrections on weight of vehicle too and even the weight of when they torque the car down to the rollers with straps, etc?
So Darren and Rosscos cars are completely different with Rosscos being shiploads lighter and from different tuners, understand they probably calculate all that but thats only accurate with a guess of what the operator puts the data in as they both have shiploads of different accessories added and fuel, drawers, bars, winches, etc or is that minor in results?
I'll have to drag all mine out and overlay them, would be interested to see between my old silver and the Td42TI.
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