mudnut (23rd March 2015)
[QUOTE=Clunk;590505]Thats what we were taught in the 4wd course I did......... doesn't quite work in an auto though lol
I know for sure that we used that method for doing restarts going downhill both forward and reverse, and I am sure that we did it going uphill as well, but the memory is a bit fuzzy on that. The extra load on the starter to go uphill would be a worry, bit if the option to reverse down is more dangerous than to head up, I am pretty sure the starter would have to take a hit.
Uummmm... I would suggest quite a few on here have spent a day or two outside the 60 KPH zone
That is exactly the wrong way to do a stall recovery.
Stall recovery is executed from a stable stationary position against compression without your foot anywhere near the brake.
Hill start is executed from a stable stationary position without the use of foot brake except in exceptional circumstance.
Where the need for a foot brake existed the risk of breaking traction would be a very significant risk.
Dolphins are so smart that within a few weeks of captivity, they can train people to stand on the very edge of the pool and throw them fish.
"hand throttle was NOT designed to get you to "gain forward momentum up massive inclines"
it was designed to give you the ability to use the throttle WITHOUT using your feet - ever heard of the old Capstan Winch - or a PTO........??? you use a hand throttle for those"
Its called a hand throttle because it's a hand throttle. We all know you don't need your feet to use it. Anytime a winch is used, an operator needs to be in the vehicle to maintain control if something snaps or otherwise goes wrong, otherwise the car goes on its own way uncontrolled. The procedure for that is simply open the bonnet to shield the person in the drivers seat from a snapped cable.
"looking at situations where you're stuck stationary on dangerous slopes when you need the grip of four calipers on the disc/drums.
mate, if your in THIS situation, you have OTHER things to worry about - like just HOW did you get in this predicament......"
If you're stuck in said situation, what you need to know is how to get out of it.
You sound like someone who'll end up injuring somebody else, if natural selection doesn't take its course first.
Uuummmm... Bullshit, sorry, but it is... and any Instructor teaching that the "one and only purpose of a hand throttle is immediate high RPM on ign start for extreme hill starts" should be immediately stripped of accreditation assuming they hold some in the first place.
Dolphins are so smart that within a few weeks of captivity, they can train people to stand on the very edge of the pool and throw them fish.
Bigcol (24th March 2015)
Gotta love the way you word things. 'A very significant risk' is what im getting at. Im talking about slopes where compression isn't going to hold you. I realise most 4wdriving uphill starts don't need hand throttle, im only talking about extreme cases. If you have to go somewhere you don't want to go, with a bushfire up your backside, then some slopes are your only option and not recovering from a stall isn't an option. Plenty of people go up big slopes for the fun of it, and anyone doing it needs to know how to drive. There's also plenty of dead or wheelchair bound people who didn't know what they were doing.