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I am wanting to take my Aldi coffee machine to camp on Queens birthday weekend.
The coffee machine says max. 1455w, so would I need a 2000w inverter.
Do inverters normally connect to the battery or through a cig socket.
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Definitely not to the cig lighter socket if using the sort of current you would be drawing with your coffee machine! You need fairly heavy cables connected directly ( via a fuse or circuit breaker) to a healthy battery of sufficient capacity (which depends upon the amount of use the coffee maker will get). It won't be a cheap exercise, & will certainly be more than what you paid for the coffee machine.
Generally only the smallest inverters (180 watts or less) have ciggie plugs on them. 180 watts at 12v = 15amps, which is about the limit for cig lighter sockets.
It is do-able if you really want to.
I'm not a great believer in the cheaper modified square wave inverters or the cheap pure sine wave inverters from ebay. With inverters it is best to buy quality units. A good quality modified square wave inverter is better than a cheap Pure sine, & whilst pure sine is best for sensitive electronics like computers etc, there are many other appliances which don't run as well on them too. Often the only way to find out is to try. Motors can run rough, or hot for example. That's why I prefer to stick with pure sine units. A good quality pure sine inverter of 2000w would be prohibitively expensive just to make a few cups of coffee. Best to see if anyone else has successfully run an Aldi machine on a Modified square wave unit before buying. I'll ask on my motorhome forum & get back to you.
Much cheaper alternatives are stove top expresso/moka pots, or the one I consider best for camping - the Aeropress. It doesn't make a foamy espresso, but it tastes a heck of a lot better than those 'pod' machines! Also a lot better than the conventional plunger - it is impossible to make a bitter cup of coffee with it, no matter how strong, & being plastic the aeropress is virually unbreakable. I love a decent coffee & find this the best camping solution, along with a small hand powered burr grinder for the beans. No connection to aeropress, just a satisfied customer. I also have a small stovetop moka pot which gives a result a little closer to the espresso I love, but it is harder to pack, more fiddly to use & takes more practice to get a good repeatable result.
Cuppa
Last edited by Cuppa; 21st May 2013 at 01:38 PM. Reason: Added more info
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MEGOMONSTER (21st May 2013)
So far two responses. One saying there are better ways & cheaper ways to to make good coffee than with an Aldi machine when camping & the other as follows:
Hi Cuppa,we run a saeco via venizia coffee machine on a 1500 watt pure sine wave inverter which handles it very well. I don't think on this machine modified sine wave would be a problem,but on machines with electronic control systems pure sine wave is the safest way to go.Our previous machine (breville) pushed the inverter to its limits.So it's important to check the wattage of the machine and make sure it's less than the inverters limit.I feel if some one is going to spend good money on an inverter ,they may as well buy a pure sine wave so they can run other delicate appliances with out worries of causing damage to the electronics.
I,ll keep you updated with any further useful responses.
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MEGOMONSTER (21st May 2013)
I wrote:
The other part of the equation I omitted to ask about is how much one of these Aldi machines takes out of a battery to make a cup of coffee? I have no idea how long they take , only that they are rated at 1455 watts. I don't know how many cups the owner wants to make at a sitting, & suspect that he'll probably only have a single 105 amp hour ( or similar) auxiliary battery.
I'm guessing that the high current draw over a short period may be ok for one or two cups, but much more than this will stuff his battery, so making coffees for everyone in camp won't be such a good idea?
To which I have received the following response:
Cuppa,I don't think a single battery would be big enough to run the coffee machine with out the risk of the inverter cutting out.The warm up time on my machine is 4-5 minutes,plus the time to heat the milk and process the coffee.I think he would need at least two batteries to complete the process (I am comparing to my own experiences with my batteries).When camping on cloudy days I get out the geny when making coffees to preserve the batteries.
He has confirmed what I thought. I suppose it may work if you were running the motor whilst using the coffee machine? Or a gennie. Bottom line is that when taking large amounts of current out of a battery in a short timeframe it hits them much harder than taking the same amount over a longer timeframe. Something to Peukerts Law I think, but don’t ask me to entry to explain Peukerts, I'm only 'name dropping'!
At the very least if it were me, & I felt I had sufficient battery capacity I,d try to borrow an inverter to test it out before buying.
Cuppa
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This just got posted.
Dragging close to 150 amps out of a single small battery - even for only a few minutes - is way over what is recommended for any battery if done on a regular basis.
Someone answered that Lithium (LiFeP04) batteries (latest & still developing technology for house/auxillary batteries) could handle it ok, but it would make for an exceptionally expensive cup of coffee.
Cuppa
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MEGOMONSTER (22nd May 2013)
I guess a generator it is then or no good coffees in the mornings.
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