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    Hi all,
    I've got a GU3 wagon and all I want to do is upgrade the globes to 100s is that just a process of globe change or not.
    Do these globes generate more heat and eventually cause damage?
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    If your refering to 100 watts then you would need to upgrade looms but then you will eventally burn the reflective chrome off your lights. You will also annoy anyone coming the other way as 100 or even 90 watts low beam is way over the top.

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    You can buy HOD globes that are 55/65w H4 and are as bright as HID but at a fraction of the cost.

    Edite: The HOD globes operate @ 6000k like HID but are not as efficient as HID in light output. ( for those who don't know what the "k" means, it is the unit used to measure the temperature that the filament inside the globe ignites the gas. "K" is short for Kelvin)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alitis007 View Post
    You can buy HOD globes that are 55/65w H4 and are as bright as HID but at a fraction of the cost.
    It's simply not possible for halogen globes to be as bright as HID, and HID into reflector headlights is a terrible idea anyway.

    I fitted 55/65w Phillips "+80" halogen globes to my 2008 GU, along with a heavy duty wiring upgrade loom that sent power directly from the battery terminals to the headlights via relays, and the lights were still crap - on highbeam they were not even as good as my Territory's low beam. And after a year both the globes blew (low beam) within a month of each other, so there goes $80.

    I now have a set of Micks 3" HID projectors with Osram 5000k bulbs halfway through being fitted to a second pair of headlights and they will be far better than any halogen upgrade, while being as close to 'legal' as you can get - the projector style means there's no scattered light that you normally get when retrofitting HID to reflectors that aren't designed for it, so no blinding of oncoming drivers either.

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    I had HIDs in the regular headlights on my old EA Falcon... lasted one night. Every single car I came across flashed me even though I was on low beam, took them out the next morning.

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    I also hear of a lot of hid kits that fail prematurely, whether earth issues or ballast issues or maybe vibrations causing something to break?. There's probably a lot of cheap kits to avoid?

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    Certainly stay away from the cheap stuff I have some of micks kits that I WILL!! be fitting tomorrow. I will take photos tonight of current setup. I also have a GQ with 35w hi/lo bulbs fitted into the headlights so I can have a direct comparison between just bulbs and projectors.

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    Projectors are the only way to go for serious headlight upgrades (I've tried the most serious of the legal options), and there are at this stage no cheap projector kits...

    The cost of my conversion was inflated by the addition of a second pair of used genuine (not aftermarket) headlights; this was not a necessity but I wanted to take my time with the conversion plus have a set of lights to return to standard if required. So I am in for around $700 so far... but considering what a serious set of HID driving lights cost, this is not bad value, because you get the massive high beam that renders driving lights almost redundant, with the bonus of well focused lighting power on low beam as well... it's not too bad an investment.


    Micks kit is just about plug and play, open the lights, fit the kit, seal the lights up and refit them with the supplied wiring loom - and for well under $500 and in some cases under $400.
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    Unfortunately there are a lot of cheap conversions that give HID lighting a bad name. The cheaper ballasts are usally what fails. I can buy full projector HID kits including projectors, bulbs, ballasts, shrouds and angel eyes for about $50 total. I actually pay more then that just for a pair of ballasts as I'd prefer to sell less kits that actually work then 3 or 4 times that amount for half the price only to get your name dragged though the mud later when half of them fail. lol

    About 80% of projectors, bulbs (even philips and Osram) and ballasts are made in China these days as no one else makes them. There is massive variations in quality though and finding someone you can trust is getting harder and harder. I've now got a couple of people who I can trust who have put me onto quality products.

    As mentioned above projectors are by far the best lighting upgrade you can do. I've had half a dozen people now who have converted one 4wd and only to buy a kit to do there wifes car a couple of weeks later.

    Cheers Mick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squalo View Post
    It's simply not possible for halogen globes to be as bright as HID, and HID into reflector headlights is a terrible idea anyway.

    I fitted 55/65w Phillips "+80" halogen globes to my 2008 GU, along with a heavy duty wiring upgrade loom that sent power directly from the battery terminals to the headlights via relays, and the lights were still crap - on highbeam they were not even as good as my Territory's low beam. And after a year both the globes blew (low beam) within a month of each other, so there goes $80.

    I now have a set of Micks 3" HID projectors with Osram 5000k bulbs halfway through being fitted to a second pair of headlights and they will be far better than any halogen upgrade, while being as close to 'legal' as you can get - the projector style means there's no scattered light that you normally get when retrofitting HID to reflectors that aren't designed for it, so no blinding of oncoming drivers either.

    Not cheap, but the best stuff rarely is.
    These globes look like standard H4 halogen globes but are xenon gas filled so they burn brighter then halogen i think at around 6000k. I bought the last pair for around $50 thru a mate. Don't get me wrong Mick's kits sound really good and from what you guys are saying are good quality but all i'm saying is that there are other options out there you just need to know what to look for. I have fitted BI Xenon's in my Gu and in my rx7 and h3 xenon in the rx7's fog lights, h1 xenon im my brothers gtr and h4 moving shutter xenons in my old man hilux but spent a bit of time adjusting them correctly on the board i use for RWC's to aim head lights even tho all the kits are 35w they burn at 6000k and i know the legal limit is 4500k after i adjust them i never get flashed or complaints about them being too bright!

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