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21st July 2011, 02:11 PM
#1
Beginner
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21st July 2011 02:11 PM
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26th July 2011, 05:21 PM
#2
Beginner
Not a very good news... I wanted to test out how strong the bracket is, so I put the bracket on floor and stand on it at the tip (I am closed to 100kg), very slight bending.
Then I drove my Patrol with front wheel on it, and the bracket snapped. Upon inspection on the fracture surface, I found there is insufficient weld penteration....
So I back to practice mode and will try again tomorrow.
If the weld is done properly, am I being unreasonable to put the Patrol on the bracket to see if it will withstand its weight (about 500-600kg)? It is 8mm plate.
2006 GU ZD30 with its pin postively secured......
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26th July 2011, 06:28 PM
#3
Hardcore
I'm a boilermaker by trade you need to prep all that sort of stuff if you're going to grind it flush for looks. what ever you're joining grind a Vee into both set of materials and leave a 1 to 2 mm gap to allow full pen on your welds. are you using 2.5 or 3.2 welding rods or gasless mig? any questions send them my way and I'll help. plus it will all stiffen up once bolted and stiffners put in place. also use heavy black pipe and remove all rust paint and gal off your job with the grinder to stop inclusions
Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward.
Whoever cannot take care of themselves without that law is both.
For a wounded man shall say to his assailant,
'If I live, I will kill you. If I die, You are forgiven.'
Such is the rule of honour.
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26th July 2011, 06:38 PM
#4
Beginner
Thanks Macca86. I am using 3.2 6013 rod with inverter DC welder.
Just redo the thing using the snapped pieces. Sucessfully park the patrol on top.
Did not snapped it, but bend the plate....
Will do the 'V' and leave gap when the real one is being done.
2006 GU ZD30 with its pin postively secured......
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26th July 2011, 06:49 PM
#5
Hardcore
If I were using stick I'd use a 16tc low hydrogen rod welding 6mm plate 3.2 rod is fine on your tee fillets weld about 120 to 130 amps and on your prepped 4mm stuff 110 amps will do should you be blowing holes still you might be lifting up and you've got a bit of undercut. you should be pretty much resting and dragging in the weld pool short arc length is needed. If that doesn't help turn the juice down a bit.
If you're worried about bending go to 10mm plate or add gussets where you can
Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward.
Whoever cannot take care of themselves without that law is both.
For a wounded man shall say to his assailant,
'If I live, I will kill you. If I die, You are forgiven.'
Such is the rule of honour.
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26th July 2011, 11:23 PM
#6
Beginner
I am not worry about the strength of the 8mm plate. I know it is strong enough if my welding is up to it.
The test was mainly to test the strength of the welding rather than the bracket itself.
I have played around the amp a bit and found about 110th amp is good. Will try making V on the real set.
The biggest improvement come from using cigweld rod rather than cheapie. What other brand are good because cigweld is quite expensive.
2006 GU ZD30 with its pin postively secured......
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27th July 2011, 06:13 PM
#7
Hardcore
ausarc are pretty good get to b.o.c gas and gear or aitken welding supply ask them what would suit your application and budget
Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward.
Whoever cannot take care of themselves without that law is both.
For a wounded man shall say to his assailant,
'If I live, I will kill you. If I die, You are forgiven.'
Such is the rule of honour.
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28th July 2011, 01:12 PM
#8
Beginner
I happened to get some austarc by WIA, after the recommendation from the local welding supply. Have not had time to test it yet.
2006 GU ZD30 with its pin postively secured......
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28th July 2011, 06:28 PM
#9
Hardcore
that's the one good rod they are too
Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward.
Whoever cannot take care of themselves without that law is both.
For a wounded man shall say to his assailant,
'If I live, I will kill you. If I die, You are forgiven.'
Such is the rule of honour.
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