Wow, this escalated quickly. Is this normal for this forum?
peterbr1, I won't have time to pull the shims before the wheel balance. If that fixes the problem (and I'm not expecting it to) then I won't have to do it.
BillsGU, I'm going to Bob Jane's who do 4WD tyres, so I'll have a word to them about making sure the balance is done on the right machine. Thanks for the tip.
Ben-e-boy, I'll get the tyre guys to check the castor (I incorrectly called it the camber in my last post). Thanks for the tip, also.
However, as I said in my opening post, the dire warnings ("...just adds preload on the bearing, it's a bandaid fix...") are what I hear from a variety of people, but I have yet to learn of a single person who has actually had problems caused by removal of the shims. The amount of people who must have done this fix should have resulted in at least one or two reported failures. I'm trying to hear about them.
Please be aware that I'm not trying to be antagonistic. Warnings are cool: I like them. They mean I can assess a risk. But if that risk has no evidence of occurring then the warning is ultimately one that has a very low, or even zero, priority. This is a standard risk assessment outcome, if you've ever needed to do this sort of thing.
mudski (6th November 2015)
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mudski (6th November 2015)
Ok, fair enough. Crawling through the forums I'm not seeing this sort of... ahem... banter all that much. But like everywhere on the internet it's hard to tell.
Hi
Just removed the shims from my 2010 Patrol
no shake for the first 60,000km
But fitted new tyres and it started, put the old rims and tyres back on and still there?
So did caster correction bushes greased &adjusted wheel bearings, new shock new steering damper Wheel alignment and Caster check all ok but shimmy still there.
So lifted front end and placed on stands removed wheels.
checked resistance full lock to full lock.
water blasted off all the muck, then loosened all crews for the king pin bearing carriers
Placed jack under the hub and slight nip removed lowwer bearing inspected and greased then removed shimm and refitted
same for top bearing tested lock to lock and no difference.
Whilst inspecting noticed the top L/H bearing had grease acoross the bearing load surface all others shiny
Test drive and shimmy gone
So will plan to re grease and re test every 20,000 km from now on
Happy with result
regards
Joe
Last edited by JoeG; 6th November 2015 at 03:02 PM. Reason: typos
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the evil twin (6th November 2015)
Clunk (6th November 2015)
Sorry bout that Pullsyjr, just hate it when people come and say things like band aid fix's and the like, then start blurting off crap like lathe time etc etc it just sounds like they love the sound of their own voice, I would have been more sensible had he show a little respect and discretion to this issue im only trying to help, I was mostly being sarcastic to the 'ahem...banter' so once again I do apologise.
Nah, no apologies required. I understand the frustration. I'm also partial to some verbal ("textual" sounds rude) sparring. And that bag of popcorn... Oh lord, I need it now!
peterbr1 (6th November 2015)