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I recently lost a left hand back wheel and contacted Nissan for a warranty claim. They refused to acknowledge there is a problem with these wheels, even though there was a recall to fit plastic indicators to show that wheel nuts may be coming loose. I have photographic evidence of another 2008 patrol with the same problem. I would like anybody who has had the same problem to contact me, as I have not finished with Nissan Australia at this stage.:mad: Jeff
Welcome 2 the forum Jeff,
Sorry 2 hear your drama's with Nissan, good luck with it.
Hope you keep the Patrol and stick around on the forum, great bunch of members that are always willing 2 help out where they can.
You might want to re-post your problem in a new thread under general chat as some members may not see it in the intro section.
Cheers
Todd
Weelcome aboard mate good luck with hope it all gets sorted keep us posted
Gday Jeff and welcome aboard mate....... I hope Nissan come to the party for ya considering it is a known problem.
G'Day and welcome to the forum mate
Just moved this thread to the correct section Jeff, slip over to the introduction section and post up a intro, always good to do that first before asking any questions, it gets everyone on side from the beginning mate
Good luck Jeff. It will be interesting to see how it ends. They must know there is a problem - why else hand out some stupid plastic indicators. And then what? Pull over every 10 km to check your wheels? If I bought a set of CSA wheels and they continued to come loose I'm sure that CSA would replace them.
- There IS a recall on the Alloy wheels because they can work loose and fall off
- There IS not a problem with the wheels so warranty denied
Maybe it's just me but I see a major contradiction with those 2 items. If there's no issue then why the recall. If there is a recall then the warranty should cover.
Personally, I would be going back to Nissan and stating that I see the recall as an admission that there is an issue with the alloy wheels and that therefore the warranty should cover the damage caused by the wheel falling off.
Don't get angry with them just be firm and stress that there appears to be a LEGAL contradiction where they admit and deny a problem at the same time. Stress the LEGAL part and make it clear that if they don't cover then you will investigate the Full LEGAL position and publish the result.
What have you got to lose?
Whilst I sympathize with OP, aaaaand Nissan has also some explaining to do the main issue here is incorrect wheel fitment made worse by a silly design.
These wheels ought to be centered correctly and must be torque tensioned correctly otherwise they're coming off especially LHS.
Cheers
Steel wheels are good.......
Is there a recall? There are many different classifications in this area: recall, rework, customer satisfaction campaigns... If there is a campaign-which wheels??? It won't be every alloy wheel. they may have just revised the torque spec.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bulbous
I'd like to see some hard evidence on this topic so i can be confident about my wheels.
There is/was Nissan safety recall which was/is applicable to alloy wheels on certain GU series, most owners where contacted by Nissan, I was even though I never ever gave Nissan any of my details.Quote:
Originally Posted by BearGUST
I was directed to dealership where they checked the wheels, re-torqued them than installed the indicators (3 per wheel only) and also given a card how to correctly install and tighten the wheels.
They also slapped a sticker on the driver side door pillar. I'd guess that's their "get out of jail card".
Cheers
OK, that doesn't sound like a "recall" then.
What series is your GU? 16 or 17" wheels?
It's an interesting problem cos VERY few people torque their wheel nuts so Nissan could well be safe of any blame.
If your wheel came loose it would be hard to prove that it had been torqued correctly beforehand.
Mine is Series 4 with 17" Alloys. Perhaps we should call it a safety campaign.
Cheers
Hi all my wife losta front wheel on GU 3 2003 in a school area luck only doing 40 km so lucky. Its that littel lip on the hub. it only fell out onto the bottom of the alloy wheel.
cossy, did you determine any good reason why the wheel came off? There's a number of cases reported on here & other sites where patrol owners have lost wheels. Some have said it was their inattention to detail - changed the wheel recently but didn't torque the nuts at fitting & didn't recheck wheel nut tension the next day. Others have said the wheels just came off with no good reason. All have said they were running alloys, but few have given any detail of tyre size, driving conditions, what type of alloys, year of alloys etc. Any thoughts on your wheel issue?Quote:
Originally Posted by cossy
cheers
There is gold 3L GU sitting on its butt, just around the corner from our place in North Brisbane.
Been there 3 days, on a main road......passenger side rear wheel disappeared, resting on its brake disc and diff. Looks like 16" rims....hope he/she isn't waiting on a warranty claim from NIssan, might be waiting a while.
Hasn't been "cannaried" by the Police yet, which is strange.
I can't help but think of that add on tele years ago OH NO NOT THE WHEEL NUTS :jawdrop:
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Originally Posted by robbo0001
what street robbo?
Anyone know what the torque settings are for tightening up the alloy wheelnuts?
Here is the sad Patrol near my place...if the owner is on here, I feel for ya mate.
There isn't a single stud left, on that rear passenger hub.
My opinion.....rattle gun over-tightening, and then "snap studs, bye-bye wheel". BUt I AM an electrician...so I might be wrong.
The vehicle is perfectly intact, after 4 days.
Good.
Hope the owner gets its sorted out...No " abandoned vehicle" placard yet....luckily the Police Station is 100 metres away, and they are keeping an eye on it.
I haven't read through this post properly but if no one has posted this link up then It's a good read.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...g+alloy+wheels
I think these photos look sort-of similar...but there isn't a SiNGLE stud left on the red Patrol.
And yes, thats hub is till attached to the axles and suspension....even after being dragged about 20 metres (looking at roadsurface)
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/o.../Photo0469.jpg http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/o.../Photo0471.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/o...tudspatrol.jpg
its not a alloy rim problem....its an "over torquing" of the wheel nuts, with a rattle gun.
A shite situation to be in, regradless of what caused it.
Hopefully Nissan had just serviced this Patrol.....(for the owners sake)
Time to go out and get a torque wench is it??? Talking of which any one know what the setting is supposed to be? Some tyre place tried to convince my sister in law that there was no issue ...... pointed out to her "well if there's no issue, why have your wheel nut indicators moved?"...... have tried pointing them to the forum but is proving difficult, so will have to go and do something about it. Do those indicators pop off or is there a removal tool, if there is what's it look like? ......... will have to copy these pics to show her what could happen.
My manual shows torque wheel nuts to 133Nm or 98ftlb (2010 VII) - correct positioning of the alloy rim centre over the small lip on the hub & manually threading genuine wheel nuts initally is vital to keep wheel centred, I use the sequence 1, 3, 5, 2, 4, 6 a few threads for each nut until taper on nuts is correctly seated, torque wrench to finish off, recheck after 50-100km, keep checking nut tention regularlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Steveo_the_Devo
[QUOTE=clunk71;200949]Time to go out and get a torque wench is it??? Talking of which any one know what the setting is supposed to be? Do those indicators pop off or is there a removal tool, if there is what's it look like? QUOTE]
see pic of the removal tool supplied in the Nissan wheel nut indicator kit - mild tin, use carefully or you could end up with 2 tools
Dingo, you're a star...... thanks heaps for that.
Hi Jeff
I have had the problem it came off at 95km
Replace the hubs on the rear it did again left hand rear
Replace the rims seems to be work Unfortunatly I need check the tyres every day
I will never buy a Nissan again going to buying a BT 50 Mazda
Contacted Nissan first time they about
Peter
Got that recall, shop that services my truck knows what they are doing and use those torque ends on the rattle gun, My hose reel in backyard is brand new rim that fell off someones rig, was going to use on trailer but the other mags had slotted holes,too far gone. never had problem and I have powder coated OE rims..... Pics coming I hope
I had the same thing happen to me (left hand rear wheel came off) on my daughters 03 GU3, was going from Perth to Adelaide to pick up a caravan for her. The wheel came of just 3 kms Perth side of Tammin & wrecked all of the wheel studs. I got a lift into Tammin (leaving my missus with the car) & luckily there was a GQ being wrecked & I bought the 6 studs & wheel nuts of one of the rear hubs. I walked back & fitted them & continued on my way, checking the nuts about every hour. The wheel had slotted holes so I used the spare & had the wheel repaired when I got back (they drilled out the holes & fitted inserts & we use it as the spare).
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Originally Posted by geoffayres
it happens with steel ones also its not the rims i lost one out near opalton and i torque mine to specs
my post is on the thread ab put up page 3 post # 29
http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/z...3012012777.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by threedogs
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What a classic...lol
Seems to be a lot of people on here that have had this issue. I'm worried now as I just swapped rims over (yesterday) and had a hard time undoing the nuts because they were too tight!
Hopefully all is well because I've had other situations like this in the past where nuts were over done and no issues.
Just make sure the rear ones are centred on that small lip and torque them up and you should have no problems, its that small lip causing trouble. last shop didn't centre mine right and came loose. they'll loosen in first 20 or so K so re tighten, should be ok after that
Is this just a sh!tbox GU thing??? Ive never had any problems with my GQ alloys
G'day Jeffan, New to the foru, hence late reply.
Had LHF wheel depart compant with the rest of the vehicle in my 2008 3.0 CRD Wagon late in 2009.
Damaged the body and brake disc, wrecked wheel, all in all no fun.
Contacted Nissan who said that they had never heard of the problem before and that it must have been due to incorrect fitment, explained that I had tyre industry experience and knew how to fit up and torque wheel nuts.
Nissan would accept no liability so I was left to wear it.
Funny enough they had a recall for my current 2010 CRD Wagon to fir wheel nut position indicators.Best of luck with your claim.
Briandon
a mate has had it happen to his land cruiser and I’ve seen it on a navara also but couldn’t tell you if it was caused by the same issueQuote:
Originally Posted by NissanGQ4.2
when it happened to us we had not been informed about the recall yet nissan wanted nothing to do with us but our insurance covered it thankfully but i think it was because of not having been told about the recall that they did, lucky to as we would have been out of pocket around 4grand in damagesQuote:
Originally Posted by Briandon
my LHS rear tyre come off when my wife was driving turning right at a round about, this is on an 02 GU, I rang a few boys in my club & 2 asked if it was the rear left wheel, apparently common issue with the GU, it had happened with me in it when it had alloys but I felt something was wrong & stopped, found the issue & tightened them, when it happened to the wifey it had steel rims on, munched the rim, tyre, rotor, sheared 3 lugs, bent 2 lugs & damaged 1 pad, of coarse this happened at 5pm Friday, I was going away for the weekend, she was 300m from home, I put the spare on & spent 30 minutes limping it home very, very slowly.
That night I pulled it down so I knew the real damage, spent all Sat morning on the phone & Sat arvo on the road driving all over Sydney getting all the bits & pieces I needed to repair it. In went 5 new lugs (genuine) 6 new wheels nuts (genuine) new pads & rotors (both sides), rotors priced in at between $180-$400 a pair, new rim & repaired tyre that is now my spare, about $450 later & a loss of a complete weekend the wifey had it back as the school bus for Monday morning, I rechecked the LHS rear Monday arvo & it was good, same a week later, I have been extra diligent with that tyre since
I'm guilty of not checking my nuts every week, but if I did, would it still be an issue?
Rossco