How to fit a Pertronix Electronic Ignition system to your GQ TB42

so yesterday i installed my pertronix 1762LS (lobe sensing) electronic ignition system. i reckon this job should take about 10 minutes but the instructions were not very good, and seeing as ive never changed points before i had no idea what to look for when following the very brief instructions. if i had somthing like below i reckon i would have been able to knock it over alot quicker. here is my guide below to assist anyone that wants to do the same and needs help:

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so there you have it. after doing all that you obviously need to put all the covers back on. i found that the ignitor sat a bit high and pressed slightly on the plastic cover that goes back on first but started the car and let it run then pulled it apart and inspected and there was no damage to speak of.

as to noticing a difference, the car started with just a touch on the ignition and idled really nice. im yet to take it for a drive as the interior is all stripped out, but it climbs really nicely through the revs when reving at a stop. again, cant mention anything about economy change as i wont be able to drive it for another couple of weeks, but i will keep everyone posted as soon as i am able to start working out that sort of thing.

if anyone has any questions about that i did, please let me know and if i know the answer ill be glad to help!

cheers,

Nic

Thanks heaps for that nic. I think I will fit one in the near future. Where did you get it?

Top write up mate - well done!!

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Thanks heaps for that nic. I think I will fit one in the near future. Where did you get it?

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got it off ebay... was soooooooo cheap, $130, from a seller who has been mentioned on here before, ponderosamustangco. it was shipped from the US, and it took 2 and a half weeks to arrive (but im pretty regional so cant blame him) well worth the wait tho

Thanks Rusty nail, Did your instructions say anything about turning down a flange, I have recently brought a Pertronix kit and it says I have to do this? Thanks again mate awsome thred

hey tusman,

no there was no mention of changing anything on the car, the reason for this was that if somehing were to go wrong with the unit, i would be able to just re attach the old "point system" as a backup. what kit did you get? mine was the Pertronix Ignitor 1762LS(lobe sensing).

cheers,

nic

Thanks Mate, Mine is the pertronix 1762 (so I'm assuming it's not lobe sensing) and the instructions say the distributor must be removed from the car and a flange on the distributor shaft has to be Machined to 0.624 of an Inch. Other than that the instructions do seem similar to your post.
Thanks again

yeah mate, the lobe sensing does not require machining. if i can suggest you take the unit you got back and see if you can replace it for lobe sensing unit. i thought this was essential as it maybe be annoying to replace and re-adjust points but when if somthing goes wrong and you have to buy a whole $xxx amount unit its way more expensive and risky...

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Thanks Mate, Mine is the pertronix 1762 (so I'm assuming it's not lobe sensing) and the instructions say the distributor must be removed from the car and a flange on the distributor shaft has to be Machined to 0.624 of an Inch. Other than that the instructions do seem similar to your post.
Thanks again

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You have the Hall Effect (Magnet type and very reliable), the kit will have a black tube with green tape on it and a white tube.
The black tube has the magnets and has to sit over the lobes.
The flange just under the rotor button is a bit big and has to be machined down to let the tube slide down to the lobes, the white tube is a spacer that sits on top of the black tube under the rotor button.
The machining takes 5 minutes in a lathe, if you want to keep this kit and have problems getting the flange turned down PM me, I'll do it for free if you send the lobes piece to me with a return addressed envelope.
That goes for anyone on the forum.
Jeff

thanks for the feedback and thanks Jaff thats a very generous offer mate, I do have access to a lathe so should be right.

tus

Hey rusty just wondering if you had thought about using another coil like they surguest or are you happy with the standard nissian coil?

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Hey rusty just wondering if you had thought about using another coil like they surguest or are you happy with the standard nissian coil?

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hey mate, just noticed your post, i did think about it, but at the moment im happy with the increase in fuel economy, i can honestly say that dramatic is an understatement. also the car revs better and has MUCH more low down pull than before. its amazing that somthing so simple could change all that. maybe in the future ill change it but its not a priority atm as its not hurting anything leaving the old coil on there and to buy the new one would just be hurting my pocket =)

cheers

nic

So these things are really that good? I've been tossing up whether to get one or not but if they're that good for the economy then I'm all for it. Which one is best, Lobe Sensing or Hall Effect?

Cheers, Chris.

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So these things are really that good? I've been tossing up whether to get one or not but if they're that good for the economy then I'm all for it. Which one is best, Lobe Sensing or Hall Effect?

Cheers, Chris.

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i use the lobe sensing job and to be honest the install couldnt be easier (see earlier in the thread) the think the downfall of the other on is that if the unit fails (which it shouldnt but you can never be too careful) you cant just put your old points back on which will get you outta trouble. also, yeah i think they are that good. from full to dead empty i was getting 300ks dead on every time but now im pushing wayyy closer to 400. that is a pretty good increase, especially when you do all the math for $130 that i paid it would put me infront after 5 or six tanks...

That seems pretty easily justifiable. I do pretty big kms every week so any way to save fuel is a good thing.

I did mine a while back, and yeah, dead easy if you had clear instructions. As it was I fiddled around for a fair while, mostly because I made the mistake of changing the coil at the same time, and it turned out that the new coil was faulty. Put the old coil back in and it's all good now.

Edit: Just thought it might be worth adding a warning about not leaving the ignition turned on without the engine running. I read that this will cause the module to overheat and burn out fairly quickly.

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Edit: Just thought it might be worth adding a warning about not leaving the ignition turned on without the engine running. I read that this will cause the module to overheat and burn out fairly quickly.

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thanks mate, i did not know that! i will definately look into it, thats kind of a worry.

nice job. top writeup and pics..

You work for XXXX . lol.

Great thread and pics.
Cheers

link for group buy pertronic ver II "variable dwell" $165 each unit
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...c-II-for-tb42s

Hi mate i just got one of the Pertronix Electronic Ignition. It says something about a Ballast Resistor and one wire going to the 12 volt side of the resistor. Is that how you have your set up?
As in your pic's you have it wired up to the coil only.

Hay mate just a quick question I've installed my petronix the same as you but should we run the wires the other way in the dizzy it's self so they don't get pulled tight when the vacume is advanced.

It might be a stupid question but it just had me wondering I might pull mine out and see if there is enough slack in the wires

http://www.dropbox.com/home#!/home/MaverickInstalled a pertronix flamethrower and removed the ballast resistor. What wires go where? Any idea? Also checked the hall effect pertronix ignitor that came with the GQ which has been flawless up until now. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. The green tape is still on the magnet ring and there is no adjusting the air gap from the screws that are fitted.

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http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...2012/08/33.jpgInstalled a pertronix flamethrower and removed the ballast resistor. What wires go where?

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I tried a flamethrower without success. Put the old coil back on and it worked fine again. Got a mechanic to test the new coil and he said it was faulty. He only ever recommends Bosch coils.

I forget the wiring details to eliminate the ballast resistor, but I do remember one wire on the coil confusing me for a while. It becomes live when the ignition key is turned to "start". It's there to feed the full 12 volts to the coil when you're starting. After the engine starts, the voltage drops back to whatever the ballast resister allows through. If you don't have a ballast you just tape/heatshrink this wire up so it can't short out on anything.

Hi Guys, just about to fit my Pertronix Ignitor 2 (Hall Effect) to my spare Dissy and I thought I would take some before photos that are labelled to hopefully help others understand the process.

Cheers,
Irvs

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Finished installing my Pertronix kit yesterday and just showing a few pics of the Dissy Shaft machined down and final install.

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Ok I just got a pertronix in the mail. It's for a mate, he wanted the pertronix two (hall effect). The pic below is what they sent.

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It's definitely not the right one is it? It says: ignitor (lobe sensor) Hitachi 6 cyl.
Part number 5872 ignitor number 1762LS.

Tap, crackle, pop

thanks for the info

It looks as though it is Lucas, that's the exact same one that I got, have you tried fitting it? Can you show me a pic of the device?


Tappin

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It looks as though it is Lucas, that's the exact same one that I got, have you tried fitting it? Can you show me a pic of the device?


Tappin

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Questioned with the seller (aus authorised pertronix dealer) and they apologised and sent the correct one which is "Ignitor2 6 cyl. Nissan Patrol. Ignitor number: 91762." NOT: "Hitachi 6 cyl.
Part number 5872 ignitor number 1762LS." that we first got. With that ignitor fitted and and the flame thrower2 coil, my mates mav is a fire breathing dragon lol.

I have just received my Pertronix Ignitor 2 and flame thrower 2 low resistance resin filled coil dorect from an american seller. Cant wait to fit it this weekend:)
(i was able to purchase the ignitor and coil from an ebay seller direct from usa for far less than the aussie dealers. AND he sent the right one the first time, which is straight away better than the aussie dealer my mate used!! PM me for dealer name)

Sucks how cheap things are from overseas. I'm all for supporting the local business but damn its too hard to justify sometimes.

DIAL-A-TAP

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Questioned with the seller (aus authorised pertronix dealer) and they apologised and sent the correct one which is "Ignitor2 6 cyl. Nissan Patrol. Ignitor number: 91762." NOT: "Hitachi 6 cyl.
Part number 5872 ignitor number 1762LS." that we first got. With that ignitor fitted and and the flame thrower2 coil, my mates mav is a fire breathing dragon lol.

I have just received my Pertronix Ignitor 2 and flame thrower 2 low resistance resin filled coil dorect from an american seller. Cant wait to fit it this weekend:)
(i was able to purchase the ignitor and coil from an ebay seller direct from usa for far less than the aussie dealers. AND he sent the right one the first time, which is straight away better than the aussie dealer my mate used!! PM me for dealer name)

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Great to hear mate! Good luck with fitting it on!!! I found out I'm up for 850 bucks for a new head on my troll today, gotta love them.. Well love to hate lol.


Tappin

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Great to hear mate! Good luck with fitting it on!!! I found out I'm up for 850 bucks for a new head on my troll today, gotta love them.. Well love to hate lol.


Tappin

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Bugga! well with a new head you can look forward to another 300,000 trouble free k's

Yeah and in that 300k ill be looking forward to lots of other problems like gearbox.. Speaking of those how's your auto going? Get that sorted yet lol!!!


Tappin

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Sucks how cheap things are from overseas. I'm all for supporting the local business but damn its too hard to justify sometimes.

DIAL-A-TAP

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Im all for that too but quite simply they are just an import company, they buy the EXACT SAME product (id bet from the same place i did) and put a little on top to make some money. Yep they keep three people in the job but really, in the end its like me importing a heap of them and reselling. AND they sent me the WROMG DAMN ONE then took about ten days to fix the problem. So; for price, service, speed and getting the right part first go, unfortunately the amercian seller was better.

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Yeah and in that 300k ill be looking forward to lots of other problems like gearbox.. Speaking of those how's your auto going? Get that sorted yet lol!!!


Tappin

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yep, all sorted. After spending all that money and trying EVERYTHING..... one day it just slowly stopped happening!! happy that it doesnt happen anymore, sad that i have no damn idea what caused it, why it stopped happening or if it will happen again!!

Well I know how you can fix it in the future... Get a manual box!!! Hahaha.

But on a serious not good to hear its all sorted mate.


Tappin

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yep, all sorted. After spending all that money and trying EVERYTHING..... one day it just slowly stopped happening!! happy that it doesnt happen anymore, sad that i have no damn idea what caused it, why it stopped happening or if it will happen again!!

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so the TC is locking up now no worries?

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Well I know how you can fix it in the future... Get a manual box!!! Hahaha.

But on a serious not good to hear its all sorted mate.


Tappin

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one day youll feel how good it is to crawl in an auto! I got an auto on purpose, i passed up a few good deals that were manual. Just had a bit of bad luck straight up. Now its fully rebuilt WITH an aftermarket heavy duty valvebody WHICH KICKS ASS:)

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so the TC is locking up now no worries?

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YEP:) all working better than than out of the factory:)