GQ TD42 Auto Conveter lock up at 60kph

Hi guys my GQ slush box feels as though the lock up converter cuts in around 60kp/h. Under light throtle at 60kp/h the revs go from 1400 to 1200 but it seems to cut in and out a bit as throtle position changes its a bit anoying. I have read that it is not supposed to cut in till around 80kp/h I have not owned the car long and am going out on the hyway to see what happens at higher speeds.
Oil level and colour is good speedo in dash works fine and there are no other problems with shifts etc that i am aware of. Any ideas????
Cheers Andrew

Don't know a lot about them other than what I have sussed out lately for mine - could the previous owner have put in a 'low stall' speed converter to ease fuel consumption?? Have a look at the specs on Wholesale Automatics website (Melbourne based) for their low stall converter and it sorta sounds like what you got?

Give Rodney there a call as he knows his stuff and should at least be able to point you in the right direction.

Good luck with it mate and no doubt others may have ideas also.

A litttle more to add on the open road it shifts up through the gears ok settles in to 4th and then lock up while sitting on 100 if you plant your foot it comes out of lock up but wont kick down to 3rd which makes accel very steady if you push the OD off button she goes back to 3rd and your away. (it will only kick back to 3rd below 90) The shift points in the manual on the forum are for a TB42 not sure if there is much difference but in any case full throttle at 100 should see you back in 3rd. Spoke to wholesale autos in melb they suggestes adj the throttle pos switch up a bit it was .4v to 3.4 adj up to .6v idle and 3.7v wot checked idle,wot and kickdown switches while i was going all ok. Roadtest still the same. Another thing I noticed is that if you take any gear up to say 30000rpm and back off there is engine braking but in 3rd the tacho drops to about 800rpm then blips up to 1400 then back down and just continues to do this as you slow down :(

I think it may be terminal???

Done about 2000km since last post gearbox still the same has not got any worse so maybe thats how it will stay, I swaped ecu with one from an old petrol and the converter lockup problem went aeay but 3rd gear eng brake is still same

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Originally Posted by Killametre

Done about 2000km since last post gearbox still the same has not got any worse so maybe thats how it will stay, I swaped ecu with one from an old petrol and the converter lockup problem went aeay but 3rd gear eng brake is still same

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maybe your TPS is faulty, Scottie ( Bigrig ), has been having trouble with his Auto Box and I believe his TPS was faulty.

Could be, I have tested it with a multimeter and it checks out ok but the bloke at the local auto shop recons its best to test them with an osiloscope, I am a bit reluctant to shell out any $$ for a new one at this point as the 3rd gear thing has me wondering?? then again i most likely have more than one problem

Hi mate just found your thread. Ive had/having a lot of trouble with my TB42 Auto box too; tps was actually missing from mine! It changed gears similar to yours. Having been driven so long (before i owned it) without a tps, the torque converter was fried:(. Been in and out of the workshop for a while.

Also: I think you should be driving with the OD button off unless coasting on the highway. I only have a POWER on/off switch but my mates has the OD button. He drives with OD off 3/4 of the time. But i think 60kph lockout is a bit low

I have a haynes book and it tells you how to do the auto box's self-diagnosis. Handy if you can get hold of one.

Goodluck mate

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Hi mate just found your thread. Ive had/having a lot of trouble with my TB42 Auto box too; tps was actually missing from mine! It changed gears similar to yours. Having been driven so long (before i owned it) without a tps, the torque converter was fried:(. Been in and out of the workshop for a while.

Also: I think you should be driving with the OD button off unless coasting on the highway. I only have a POWER on/off switch but my mates has the OD button. He drives with OD off 3/4 of the time. But i think 60kph lockout is a bit low

I have a haynes book and it tells you how to do the auto box's self-diagnosis. Handy if you can get hold of one.

Goodluck mate

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I use my OD button all the time with no problems :)

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Originally Posted by taslucas

Hi mate just found your thread. Ive had/having a lot of trouble with my TB42 Auto box too; tps was actually missing from mine! It changed gears similar to yours. Having been driven so long (before i owned it) without a tps, the torque converter was fried:(. Been in and out of the workshop for a while.

Also: I think you should be driving with the OD button off unless coasting on the highway. I only have a POWER on/off switch but my mates has the OD button. He drives with OD off 3/4 of the time. But i think 60kph lockout is a bit low

I have a haynes book and it tells you how to do the auto box's self-diagnosis. Handy if you can get hold of one.

Goodluck mate

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Thanks, Yeah the TPS was on top of my hit list along with the revolution sensor but as they test ok at the TCU I am not keen to spend the $$ with the prospect it may not fix it I will keep my eye out for a second hand one to try. If they were faulty when tested I would have no issue replacing them but it is not the case. There is no reason to drive with the OD off(3rd) around town the transmission is built to handle it if they didnt want you to use top at low speeds they would change the shift point in the TCU?

Thanks again for the feedback

If the converter locks at 60km/h you would know it as you would barely be able to cruise. I used to have a switch in mine to lock as required. If you locked it at 60 you could just 'cruise', the engine revs were that low it was not useable. It may be just going into 4th. Don't forget the lock-up is like a fifth gear, not part of the 4-speed gbox.

Also if the TPS is not correct the Auto ECU lamp should light on the dash. There is some method to get the fault codes out of the lamp flashes.... but there is a special method to get it into diagnostics mode....

Well I am no expert in this area but I am pretty sure it is lock up as you can count the gears all the way through to 4th then you feel a clunk and the revs drop from 1400 to 1200 which I would call lock up??
The diagnostic mode is not activating for me I have followed the proceedure exactly but cant get a code out. Generally on initial start up the power light comes on for 2sec then it flashes 16times fast with no long flashes, as the shop manual only talks of codes consisting of 10 flashes this has me baffled. An auto expert and a mate at a nissan dealer could not help with this only to say if thay are all the same length that it means all should be ok but it isnt.

Cheers Andrew

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Also if the TPS is not correct the Auto ECU lamp should light on the dash. There is some method to get the fault codes out of the lamp flashes.... but there is a special method to get it into diagnostics mode....

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Hey mate could it be your torqe converter i know that these can be a real pain in the A#$E when they start playing up also maybe your clutch plates are not letting go Just a thought

Also your bands in your gaer box may need adjustment and a service at the same time that should cost you too much to do that

Or you can just take it to a Automatic specilast as Auto's as you are experiencing can be a pain