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Wonder if Portal Axles are legal in QLD? Business would boom if they are I would imagine mate.
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Portals have gain national accreditation in all states for GU Patrols according to Marks 4x4 and a VASS engineer I spoke with some time ago. I would think this would be the same for the 79 series landcruisers as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by MB
So Qld is broke and anna alphabet decides to increase revenue. Lets hit the cash cow again and avoid upsetting our voters. Its only yobbos that do this to their cars so its a safe option. Bloody wankers.
If ya want 35s and big lifts , the local buy sell swap facebook pages have heaps , in the last few days !
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The revenue raising campaign for a financially incompetent government.
Some do go overboard with lift and tyres imo and yes you can get pretty cheap 35"s at the moment .
Ok if you're in a car with stupidly lifted posture and/ or 35"+ rubber and all the other attention seeking wank factor mods that they KNOW are illegal and will get done for.
I can understand that.
But going by a lot of posts on FB , the cops have a " Ask questions later" mentality with this operation against defective 4x4s.
Supposedly a lot are defected , even though are well within the specs because the cops aren't 100% certain ... So they send the poor sob through the hoops , and in the end he may come out clean but wasted his time and $$$.
Don't worry gents. This'll hit Vic shortly .
Mark my words.
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Been that way for as long as I can remember around Mansfieldville Hodgey mate :-)!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hodge
Got pinned for 35’s circa 1995 on a massive blitz. They were even attacking stock 4x4’s with minor adventure damages like cracked rear quarter lenses and the like!
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Didn't a forum member get a defect notice for a set of clearview mirrors by the Mansfield cop ?Quote:
Originally Posted by MB
Does ring a bell mate, real shame it is too for the local businesses. We’re reluctant to even pass through for a coffee or fuel up even in stock work utes!
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........... a reason not to go to Qld ................ and avoid Mansfield!
Actually got caught in a sting at Coopers creek about a month ago on our trip ,plain unmarked land cruiser with roof rack and camping gear on top and towing an old shitty soft top camper trailer .
It was a joint fishery and Cop thing I got cited for not having a name tag on a shrimp net but others got a $550 fine .
Not sure what the answer is but maybe our ADR’s are just a little too over the top?
I get that some Yanky States are ridiculous with monster trucks on civilian roads but we really do appear to be going beyond reasonably allowable modifications for off road performance needed in many areas across this great land!
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I heard from a Mansfield local when I was at Hotham, the reason it is so bad there is the local sergeants kids were out riding motorbikes and some idiot came around the corner in a 4b, cleaned them both up. Killed one and the other is permanently disabled. Pretty Savage and if that is the case you can't really blame him for a 4wd witch hunt hey.Quote:
Originally Posted by MB
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An example video, Great Mate PeeBee’s 33” driven legal GQ torque beast!
https://youtu.be/gQ8blm9SgsA
35’s would not only lessen potential damage for a safe highway drive home but let’s consider those poor rocks!
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Apologies Rusty, typing same time mate! Yes horrible thing to happen to anyone for sure!!
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You are 100% right @MB, the compliance restricts the capability for sure. I had two spots on that weekend where the diff clearance physically stopped me in my tracks, one into high Cone and the second on @MudRunnerTD tunnel of paint death track. Being that little bit higher would have sorted it out and not forced me to slam thru an obstacle and rely on the diff protectors for support.Quote:
Originally Posted by MB
I’m just back from two weeks around Port Douglas and the number of cars still heading up to the cape was massive. Certainly no blitz up that way, if it was on they would have had a field day. Same if they targeted the backpacker vans.
Spoke with my mates son who’s a cop in Brisbane and he’s not aware of any of this, says it must have been a slow news day and just a local exercise as they have more important issues that 4wds.
I would like to know exactly how many accidents are caused by these vehicles as they are such a danger to the occupants and others around them as stated by the authorities. Can't think of any myself and probably safe bet there aren't any stats out there either to back up such claims.
The law is the law and they are right in enforcing it, however do believe there must be much higher priorities out there police could be spending there time in keeping us good public safe & sound. We're definitely are a nanny country and ideally having a balance, maybe not to the extreme the Yankees and Icelanders do, but a little more leanient in mods would be the go, but will never happen lol. For now i think I'll just avoid Mansfield, Gold Coast and long weekends in the high country . . .
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That's what makes my blood boil the most Rossco. Their Priorities !!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rossco
Best example I can think of is the ice drug epidemic in Australia
, literally destroying some country towns and getting worse on a daily basis.
The problem is so huge it's pretty much been put behind the curtains so as not to worry the general public.
Authorities are losing the battle against it , don't know how to handle it and it's turning into a hard basket.
Resources from this so called operation against illegal 4x4 mods could be widely used there ...
But no. They're after a easy target they can use to make them selves look good on news.
And it doesn't generate any $ in fines when they catch drug crooks does it.
Money talks , bullshit walks.
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Yeah bloody oath. If there is fair justification behind it such as stats backing up accidents and deaths in the case of drink driving or distracted drivers on mobiles yeah i get it and would be fair enough, but it only seems to be opinions and reasoning from cops viewpoints. Too true it is just an easy target whilst other priorities get thrown in the too hard basket. Had a chainsaw assumed stolen off the back of a work truck, the insurance ended a police report so went in and got one. "I'll send it through when it's done mate" never got it and have up hastling them till i have up there's another priority lol.
Having said that the vast majority of cops I've dealt with in my years of driving and other have been nothing but reasonable generally good folk.
Going back to dangerous vehicles I think the most accidents I have had most of which were to do with my inexperience and crappy vehicle were in my old 40 series. The thing was fairly standard definitely legal however handled and braked like s#!t, the manufacturer definitely didn't incorporate handling and braking characteristics into those things lol.
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Exactly mate!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rossco
I've seen my fair share of vehicles into power poles during my 18 year career in this job... Too many unfortunately.
Never ever have I seen a 4x4 modified in any way that's caused the accident. Ever.
Most time it was an out of control vehicle caused by a P plater, pretending the road is a drag circuit in his first car bought by their mum. Majority being lowered commondoors and falcons.
But you're right. I would also LOVE to see a spreadsheet of stats on this issue to see the numbers that they are using as leverage for this stupendous exercise.
How many 2" lifted Patrols have caused grievous harm and damage caused by NOTHING but the upgrade springs and shockers.
If anything, a lot of upgrades actually improve the handling and safety of vehicle control.
A lot of the laws were written back before the invention of the wheel and just haven't been changed. One example is the good old catch can. Illegal to use because, back in the day, they were used and just vented into the atmosphere. Now they are a closed circuit system, still illegal...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hodge
Some laws have recently been revised, but now are tighter than before.
For those interested this is a good read. 8 page PDF document.
https://www.4wdqld.com.au/wp-content...-Crackdown.pdf
To reiterate, this is affecting all 4wd'ers at the moment. However it is affecting the late model vehicles more like the modded tradie utes (Rangers, Hilux's Tritons and so on. Not saying that others are not like our estranged Y62). My employer is on the board of AAAA and they are working with TMR to get this grey area cleaned up. Qld has been on the raw end for quite a while. Aligning the Codes of practice across this country has been an on going issue for far to many years and will not happen any time soon.
Attachment 76318..................
Interesting read...
http://statements.qld.gov.au/Stateme...-and-lift-laws
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Nothing new really. Been happening in Mansfield for the last five or so years. Haha!Quote:
Originally Posted by AB
Pat Calinan media has a story on this "operation lift " that has been going on in Queensland , seems that what was legal 6 months ago is now not legal they just forgot to warn people that would be affected .
I read somewhere that someone who knew a QLD copper denied they were targeting fourbies but it seems the opposite is true .
Cops have cheat sheets on each model telling them the measurements in regards to wheels and heights etc .
Again I say something on this from a very well positioned employer. (There are some here that know who I work for). The area of concern is the very grey area of stability control. Just give this some time (as we Qld'ers have been doing for some time now). The AAAA is in a position to bring the NCOP and QCOP in alignment. Unfortunately this is never going to be a quick resolution. Those that know me know that I wish it was with the mods I have on my Trol. To those that cannot meet the QCOP due to this issue, put your vehicle away or don't own a vehicle with Electronic Stability Control. Not to many Patrols have it anyway.
Spoke to a customer today. His client. The Vic Police. In their car park was one of the cuntsables own car. A current model Colorado with a big lift and 35's! MY customer jokingly questioned it, and the copper just smiles and said nothing.
Yep, when they get that jesus badge, they are untouchable.
Me in secure police car park talking to cop arriving before shift: "Hey mate, nice Patrol. I drive one too."Quote:
Originally Posted by PeeBee
Cop: Explains in detail everything done and how much he loves it.
Me: "I didn't think this particular mod was legal. Am I mistaken?"
Cop: Goes vague.
Its called selective compliance. If he gets pulled up, 'ok mate, I'm in the job, off he goes into the sunset.
Private vehicle but Freddy in the wallet.Quote:
Originally Posted by PeeBee
Disclaimer: I have utmost respect for the job cops do. I've worked in and around them for a while but I would rather clean toilets for a living than put up with the shit these guys go through. Total respect. But yes there's double standards cop-to-cop.
Just remember all this started by those responsible in government changing the legislation.
Too true! Have you watched the 1970's british comedy Yes Minister? Bloody crackup but also a reflection of how the Westminster system works. The govt departments drive the bus from the back seat while the pollies sit in the drivers seat and waffle shit to the public out the window.Quote:
Originally Posted by GQtdauto