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Hi All,
Has anyone used the mounting Bracket that attaches to the rear wheel holder for their Hi Lift Jack.
Not sure with having this one only attachment for the Jack it may rattle the bracket to bits and crack it over miles and kms of corrugations.
I like the idea but has anyone had them fail??
I dont really rate the highlift to be honest. An exhaust jack is a far better option. Consider where on your vehicle tou can jack using a high lift also.??
If you have to carry one consider the back door is a known weak point of a Nissan Patrol causing cracking of the door due to the weight of the spare tyre. The additional weight of a heavy highlift jack will compound rhe problem.
Agree with ^^^^
Haven't carried a hi-lift for years and don't even own one anymore.
Useless in mud or sand and not many Bars even have hi-mount slots these days.
The only 'useful' option I ever found was a 'wheel mate' that allowed you to lift from the wheel.
If you do have a need for one then I would carry it on the roof rack (I did waaay back when) and not the door.
Quite a few mounts available for that purpose
I rate hi lift jacks as far as I can throw them ...
Mudrunner is spot on though, if you do need to carry one, the last place is to put more weight on the large barn door. Plenty of them are peeling off like sardines cans due to weight of wheel.
Especially when larger tyres and steel rims are involved.
I saw this mount setup in some way along the tow bar point ... Unsure how good it is.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...2018/05/31.jpg
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Exhaust Jack safer by miles Hi-lifts were gret when 4x4s were made of steel .
sadly no place for them in recovery these days even a winch would be a safer option.
sadly not called the widow maker for nothing, If you must carry one and have a roof rack
drill two holes fit thejack drill holes in the bolts to except a "R" clip, but honestly plenty of
safer options and thats the name of the game get home without yor jaw broken
I wouldn't mount it on the rear door either, already too much weight there.
If you have a roof rack, that's the ideal place, otherwise stick it under the rear seats.
If you have say a KayMar rear bar they have an option to carry a hi-lift safely
plus it'll take the weight they weigh 13kg ooi. Easy enough to mount on the roof
rack ARB and others make a special bracket for it and a long handled shovel
Back door will crack anyway with just ask @mudski,
why put more weight the door cant take. Anytime from now Mark Im good to go
Ill give it a polish
I carry a high lift on a rear bar wheel carrier. I rate them as an appropriate tool when matched to the task, and the competency of the operator. I have used mine many times over the last 30 years and will continue to do so. I also have an airbag and use that where appropriate. Unfortunately there is no high lift tool that caters for all circumstances.
re the photo with the highlift at tow bar height - good luck with that. I reckon he must be a bitumen burner only and the jack is there for show - would not last 10 minutes on a 4wd track before betting clouted, plus its mechanism is in direct line of all the dirt and stones.
And I thought they were just status symbols like fluffy dice on the rear view mirror .
Steel tray utes and or paddock work on hard ground they are great tools in pairs for the ‘right’ know how situation. Never ever honestly buy cheap knockoffs, I too have nearly lost my jawbone from a 1990’s ‘Jackal’!
Even ‘Hi-Lifts’ can suffer from poor functioning if uncared for, especially if left gathering dust through their mechanics on the far back of a blokes truck.
Almost forgot, nearly rattled apart my A front window pillar and step on a beloved FJ40 shorty in my 20’s with a cool looking jack mount system.
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The only thing I would hang off one of those ARB type jack holders would be shovel and a cable spool over the handle as I do when needed. Yes I also have come attached to my high lift jack, carried one for 30yrs as well. Rarely comes off though as I choose to avoid the need for it. Certainly do agree that modern 4x4 vehicles unless modified to suit high lift jack application are near to useless and is irrespective of what ground you are on.. Most bull bars today would not handle the lift. And take into consideration the shock travel to actually lift the wheel off the ground. Chain and hooks thru wheel rim come in handy. Had a SWB land cruiser in the 80's with steel bars front and back (HHD) and could handle what ever you threw at it. How quick it was to throw 4 chains under it as I once did after sliding off the track and came to rest off to the side. Was the only way to get out, no other vehicles. Lift logs too.
My high lift jack is stowed in behind the wheel carrier, adapted a Kaymar jack holder to the Millweld rear bar wheel carrier.
If you are confident to use a h/lift jack and safely put it on the top of a the roof if you have not got the solid mounting available else where.
Do not under sling it like the rear tow bar joke as you probably won't be able to get to it when you get stuck, and anyway you will be just digging-in.
As mentioned, do love em in the right high lift steel situation needed.
Pictures below direct from ‘Hi-Lift’ site. http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...2018/05/39.jpg Picture here also is only possible due to structural box steel extended slider but as soon as the Jeep Weeps sideways slightly, can opener door time and usually with upper hand/knuckles stuck between, bad idea :-( ! http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...2018/05/40.jpg https://hi-lift.com/hi-lift-jacks/x-treme/
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Almost forgot, last picture from their site, fool has his head over the lever/handle awaiting a jaw realignment. Only takes a bit of crud in between upper & lower pin workings. There aint no third redundancy pin on any brand, always ease lever pumps and listen for solid home clicks of each!!
EDIT: “Deep Clicks/Lock” !!
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Just downloaded the ‘4Wd supaCenta’ instructional video for their version wacky jack.
https://youtu.be/Bp-rWsBpIUU
https://www.4wdsupacentre.com.au/her...ck-48inch.html
Buyer and everyone around the vicinity please be aware!
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keeps his gloves nice and clean though.Quote:
Originally Posted by MB
reminds me of "cock, lock, look" safety safety firstQuote:
“Deep Clicks/Lock”
really should be outlawed , one tip is leave the handle either up all the way up or down all the way.
I used to make 300mm extensions for them. Mainly for older style 4x4 [steel] it allowed you to reach under the
4x4 and lift from the chassis. You can push ,pull, split wood you name it I have 3 dont ask, but take extra shear pins
a base plate 300mm x 300mm there are heaps of bits and pieces you can add to make life easier, great on leaf spring 4x4s
not so good on coil front 4x4s. great for pulling fence posts out just put the foot in a notch and jack away. If there is no
notch wrap a bit of rated chain around and lift that way, while we are at it only use equipment that is rated to do the job
meaning stamped SWL shackles and hercalloy chain. do everything to eliminate any accidents or mishaps, oh sht rant over
Hi All, Thanks for all the input, Just got back from Cardwell for the long weekend. I agree with all of your comments and appreciate your honest feedback. I have had the old Kangaroo Jack sitting in the shed for years and yes it goes back to the days of living in Darwin.
I used to be surveying up there for the Commonwealth Govt and each vehicle had one of these attached to it. I guess the big thing is like you have mentioned was that these Troop Carriers and Toyota Utes were built like Brick St/houses and full of steel jacking points for the Jack. We used to take off through the bush and the bull bars were used to knock any sapling out of the way forward. So that also came with getting a few flat tyres, just part of the process where you could stop and repair with a bead breaker on the split rims.
The Jacks were very useful but as discussed deserved to be used wisely. I used to go camping with the old FJ40 which also had good mounting points on the step plate and attached to a bracket on the front door frame.
I see it could still be useful to me these days only if I get one of those chain hooks that attach to the wheel for lifting or to lift the boat trailer if it gets a flat when we head bush next month. Like some one said I don't want it to be a can opener on my door.
I guess the only option is to mount it on the roof racks of my GU or bolt it somewhere on the camper trailer that my son will be towing
Camper trailer may be the best option. It has the solid thick draw bar. Like anything I will wrap it up in plastic and padding for protection.
Air bag mate... get an Air bag.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhillipA
All of that can be done in 1/2 the time, with no major concerns by an air bag (or exhaust jack if one prefers).
Did quite a few years in Darwin as well, during and after my time in the military and would have carried an air bag over a hi-lift anytime if they were available back then esp out on that black soil in the wet.
For vehicle specific purposes the only thing they do an airbag won't is break beads.
I went the same way and held onto hi-lifts for ages with a wheel mate attachment till I saw the light.
Ok evil, I'm going to look into these air bags. By the all the comments they sound ok.
When you run a 4" lift with 35's, the little bottle jack you get as a standard doesn't even reach the car, even when it's fully extended haha :DQuote:
Originally Posted by GQtdauto
Something I never thought about yes your right the original jack needs a heap of chocks just with a two inch lift .Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveGQ
If you dig approximately a 1” deep hole and drive the 35” tyre into it then position the OEM bottle jack under the axle you can just sneak the tyre off. I managed to get it done with a messy builders tech screw through a new BFG KM2 years back, grrrrr!
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I threw my mechanical jack away on both 4x4s Ive owned and brought myself a nice 20 tonne Hydraulic numberQuote:
Originally Posted by GQtdauto
less effort to lift the car and only a thick base plate might be all you need. They come on special every now and then
and cost bugger all I love mine even great for jobs at home.. I collect antiques but and original mechanical 4x4 jack has no resale value at all lol
Did he come up with a solution ????
Thing of the past unless you want a huge fine, plus has anyone ever got a set ot Hi-lift gloves or a hat when theyQuote:
Originally Posted by DaveGQ
brought their hi-lift. Ive never seen one ever have I been ripped off again