Powerful 4x4 rear wheel carrier / bar

Wondering if anyone has any experience or heard anything about Powerful 4x4's rear bar / wheel carrier for the GU?

I know you get what you pay for, but currently it's half the price of many other name brand bars.

My main concern is it may not fit up properly and I'd have to butcher it to fit & it would end up looking crap when fitted.

I can weld and cut & grind to fix any tears or splits that may occur, add gussets & plates over time to fix what may happen over time so I'm not worried about that sort of problem.

I'm mostly concerned that it just fits up first go.

Thanks for any info.

I was having the same thoughts as well ! But bit the bullet , and to my surprise it went on perfectly and the quality is actually very good . http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...2018/04/96.jpg

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Well maybe they've improved over the last 3 years but mine is shit and I'll never buy another.


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Well maybe they've improved over the last 3 years but mine is shit and I'll never buy another.


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What aren't you happy with?

Luck of the draw maybe with these. I've heard nothing but bad about them. Not fitting up right, missing parts etc etc.
I am also looking around for a rear bar, as my rear bumper can only have so many cable ties holding it together, and I have made the conclusion that I will just have to bight the bullet and spend the coin on something decent.

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Originally Posted by mudski

Luck of the draw maybe with these. I've heard nothing but bad about them. Not fitting up right, missing parts etc etc.
I am also looking around for a rear bar, as my rear bumper can only have so many cable ties holding it together, and I have made the conclusion that I will just have to bight the bullet and spend the coin on something decent.

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Yeah I hear you, I've read about them not fitting as well as fitting, I reckon I'd believe the folks who say they fit more than the ones who say they don't. It may be skill related, temper related, time related, unrealistic expectations I don't know.

Fitting can be fixed. I've not seen or read anywhere about them rattling themselves to pieces on tracks or welds cracking or sheet tearing though, that's the bad stuff IMHO.

I don't know either mate. I know you get what you pay for, but all the 'name' brands are around $3000 with 2 wheel carriers, whereas these are around $1500 with 2 carriers. If you spend $500 fixing one you're still $1000 ahead. When you consider that and that they don't look too bad, maybe that's enough to help with the thought process?????

Yeah 3k is a lot of money for a rear bar. Hence me holding off so much, it’s a hard pill to swallow. I am also looking for a branded second hand bar too.


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Yeah 3k is a lot of money for a rear bar. Hence me holding off so much, it’s a hard pill to swallow. I am also looking for a branded second hand bar too.


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Highly recommend Millweld for a lot less than that.
http://www.millweld.com/a/Rear-Bars

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Yeah 3k is a lot of money for a rear bar. Hence me holding off so much, it’s a hard pill to swallow. I am also looking for a branded second hand bar too.


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Make your own tube bar or something?

Whilst not GU related, Dad bought a powerful 4x4 rear bar around 3 years ago for his 105 cruiser and was bitterly disappointed... it didn’t fit properly at all, mounting holes in wrong spots, ill fitting bar that he was advised by customer service to pack it out with washers etc etc he ended up demanding a refund, and to their credit they had him one. Whilst to some these things maybe minor, when your spending $2k on a brand new bar you expect it to fit your vehicle properly

He also bought some rock sliders from them too, which rusted from the inside out!! Got a refund for these as well in the long run.

Hope for your sake their manufacturing quality and QA checks have improved over the years


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Make your own tube bar or something?

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Yeah I thought about that. But I’d have then make a tube front bar so it would match, then my Patrol would just be more cop bait and down here we don’t need anymore of that. I’d love to be able to have the skills to make my own bar. The ones on the market now I reckon have too much weight on them.


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One thing I have learnt from helping a mate build barwork over the last few years at his shop, is that many of the same brand, year etc are different. To get it right every time barwork has to be built on the vehicle. It's surprising as the differences are bugger all. But, it is the difference between fitting nicely, poorly or not at all.

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Yeah I thought about that. But I’d have then make a tube front bar so it would match, then my Patrol would just be more cop bait and down here we don’t need anymore of that. I’d love to be able to have the skills to make my own bar. The ones on the market now I reckon have too much weight on them.


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You can make a tube bar with sheet metal inserts to fill in the gaps. It's only for aesthetics so it can be light and if it is well thought out it can be very subtle

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Remember me and you compared rear bars at last year's show ? We looked at the powerful one. And a bunch of others.
From memory steel thickness, and the way it was powder coated , didn't appear to be too good.
Also im not an expert welder , but the welds appeared very ordinary in contrast to others ...
However , others were fair bit more $$$.
Having 3-4 different brand under same roof , to compare them just about side by side, was enough to tell where you're spending the extra $.

I'm looking at the Kaymar Ozbar personally.

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What aren't you happy with?

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It doesn't line up properly, when I rang them about it they said 'just force it over'. Bit hard when the braces are hard against the chassis. The Jerry can holder welds have broken several times, hubby's reinforced it, which has added extra weight. It also vibrates loose constantly, so I leave it off. The whole Bar vibrates like a bastard and I had to make my own nut to hold on spare wheel. Close the spare wheel and it moves the whole Bar. Id save longer and get better quality.


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Yeah I'd be x2 on Millweld or Racebred can't fault either of their stuff and very reasonably priced. . .

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I will have to wait for someone to run up the back of mine so I can get insurance to help pay for a decent bar.
Had considered the Powerful 4x4 but changed my mind after reading this thread.

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@mudski

Remember me and you compared rear bars at last year's show ? We looked at the powerful one. And a bunch of others.
From memory steel thickness, and the way it was powder coated , didn't appear to be too good.
Also im not an expert welder , but the welds appeared very ordinary in contrast to others ...
However , others were fair bit more $$$.
Having 3-4 different brand under same roof , to compare them just about side by side, was enough to tell where you're spending the extra $.

I'm looking at the Kaymar Ozbar personally.

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Yeah thats right....
The only thing i didnt like about the Ozbar is I have to use my existing tow bar. its not a deal breaker but...

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Originally Posted by Ben-e-boy

You can make a tube bar with sheet metal inserts to fill in the gaps. It's only for aesthetics so it can be light and if it is well thought out it can be very subtle

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Yeah I'd love to Ben. I have thought over this many times. It keeps getting thrown into the too hard basket though.

Those Milweld bars do look nice though. Hopefully they come up with a design for the self opener on the large door. I do like that...

Guy has a bullbar on his new lux and it's always coming loose. They have a welded eyelet that they say is a rated recovery point. I don't know much about them, but enough not to buy from them

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Highly recommend Millweld for a lot less than that.
http://www.millweld.com/a/Rear-Bars

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Good bit of kit, Bought one eight yrs back from Mill. Went down to Mansfield for install, took a while to fit as it was one of his first on new body shape GUs. They have improved over the yrs, but mine has put up to quite a bit and does a good job. Is made out of 6mm MS plate has hitch point which I use for a recovery bow shackle(permanent) and left the rated tow bar on. Bought a Kaymar H/lift holder brkt and welded it up in behind spare whl. One thing I would liked to do is put a couple of H/Lift jack point in. We ran out of time on the day. May get around to it some time but in a time of need, drag out the chain and shackle to jack and your in business. Recovery points either side underneath, where I also hook the dogs up..

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Originally Posted by TPC

I will have to wait for someone to run up the back of mine so I can get insurance to help pay for a decent bar.
Had considered the Powerful 4x4 but changed my mind after reading this thread.

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Yeh, that is how I afforded mine sorta. Forgot I had the trailer on and in a hurry, jump in fire her up, back we go, jack knifed. Sorted the bumper out big time, got the insurance money, took out a small dent, installed rear bar and happy there after...

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It doesn't line up properly, when I rang them about it they said 'just force it over'. Bit hard when the braces are hard against the chassis. The Jerry can holder welds have broken several times, hubby's reinforced it, which has added extra weight. It also vibrates loose constantly, so I leave it off. The whole Bar vibrates like a bastard and I had to make my own nut to hold on spare wheel. Close the spare wheel and it moves the whole Bar. Id save longer and get better quality.


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Hey thanks for getting back to me katwoman. That's very useful feedback on your bar.

I've been looking at the Millweld bars and I reckon if I can do it I'll be getting one of them. I looked at Raslarr as well but I think I prefer the Millweld bars. Might take a trip up to Mansfield and get them to put it on when the time comes.

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Hey thanks for getting back to me katwoman. That's very useful feedback on your bar.

I've been looking at the Millweld bars and I reckon if I can do it I'll be getting one of them. I looked at Raslarr as well but I think I prefer the Millweld bars. Might take a trip up to Mansfield and get them to put it on when the time comes.

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We can save $$ and cut corners on certain things but IMO not the bars
More hassle than what it’s worth in the end


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Looks like i must have got a good one! Just finished the Simmo 2 days ago , as well as walkers crossing, Birdsville trk ; oodnadatta trk Mt Dare etc , never moved or came loose , 2 x 285s on it , and to be honest the most popular bar we saw all trip !

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Looks like i must have got a good one! Just finished the Simmo 2 days ago , as well as walkers crossing, Birdsville trk ; oodnadatta trk Mt Dare etc , never moved or came loose , 2 x 285s on it , and to be honest the most popular bar we saw all trip !

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So which one do you have gaddy? Pics?

Got back today , so unwashed state ! http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...018/10/131.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...018/10/132.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...018/10/133.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...018/10/134.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...018/10/135.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...018/10/136.jpg

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