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29th March 2018, 09:37 PM
pro25ahmed

New tyres help

Didn't find a thread so I made this one
Part of our job is to visit local farmers
So we need to go off-road sometimes
Problem is my tyres can't endure the environment (last time I did 23 patches in just two days and two tyres were in unrepairable)
Stock tyre size 265/70R16
Environment is filled withy spicky bushes and dry hard stems (puncture resistance required)(no way around it)
Sometimes muddy
So what type and size of tyres should I get
And do I need to change my wheel size
Any help is appreciated
29th March 2018, 10:14 PM
MB

New tyres help

G’day Ahmed mate!
In Australian Southern rocky conditions I’ve relied on BF Goodrich Mud Terrain KM1’s & KM2’s for well over 10 years now.
The beautiful African environment you describe above sounds very tough my friend.
I have never used them but I believe there is a system that USA Baja desert racers and their rock crawling drivers use with a secondary inner tough tube thing. Others here will know what they’re called but possibly could work for your needs maybe?

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29th March 2018, 10:45 PM
JackoGQYoot

Are they called internal beadlocks? There are good ones for most rim sizes on Snake Racing: http://shop.snakeracing.com.au/secon...-x-10-12-wide/
I think these just allow you to run lower pressures than you'd normally be able to. I've heard of people running their tyres at 4psi with these!
29th March 2018, 11:02 PM
Avo

ya need a 10 ply side wall not 3ply..look for a lt-light truck
mate did heaps of driving through saltbush n stick out of kalgoolie..swore by 10 ply sidewall...hope that helps mate,
29th March 2018, 11:02 PM
Avo

https://www.bing.com/search?q=10+ply...6fbca19383f433 1234567890
29th March 2018, 11:02 PM
MB

Cheers Jack, I think that’s them mate. I guess my theory was to let those nasty described prickles pass through a tyre but not the tough inner one you helped on here, could work hopefully?

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29th March 2018, 11:14 PM
MB

Apologies, typing same time as Avo mate. West Australians Ahmed mate know your similar turf for sure!!

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30th March 2018, 12:40 AM
MudRunnerTD

Quote:

Originally Posted by MB

Cheers Jack, I think that’s them mate. I guess my theory was to let those nasty described prickles pass through a tyre but not the tough inner one you helped on here, could work hopefully?

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nah the internal Bead locks are designed specifically to hold the bead and are quite small. They will not stop teh tyre going down if it is puncture but will stop it popping a bead.

For my money i would look at something with big side wall lugs to protect from impact and puncture by thickness alone.

Choice number 1 would be Simex Jungle Trekker2. Great tough tyre. Military spec. Rain Forrest Challenge winner and just tough. They also come in smaller sizes so will work in a 33, 34" tyre if that i what your chasing. Will be great in the wet seasons too.

http://www.dynamictyres.com.au/our-tyres/simex

Choice 2 Wrangler MTR have a Kevlar reinforced side wall and a good quality but Dear as Poison.

http://www.goodyear.com.au/dotCMS/Ty...de=00782&from=...

Choice 3 would be Maxxis Treps. Tough big side walls but start in 35s and go up.

http://www.maxxis.com/catalog/tire-4...trepador-m8060

Hope that helps.
30th March 2018, 05:13 AM
pro25ahmed

Thanks everyone
I checked with local dealers
But they only have high way rated
Gonna try down town later
Thanks again
30th March 2018, 08:18 AM
drgtr

Im running Khumo Kl71 Mud terrains.

I love them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu93bDq6pR0
30th March 2018, 08:52 AM
MudRunnerTD

Quote:

Originally Posted by drgtr

Im running Khumo Kl71 Mud terrains.

I love them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu93bDq6pR0

Yeah i ran KL71s for aboit 100,000kms. Was pretty impressed with them for all environments. Great performance but the side walls are not awesome. For the environment the OP is talking about the side walls are very exposed. They wouldnt be my choice.
30th March 2018, 09:12 AM
drgtr

Quote:

Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD

Yeah i ran KL71s for aboit 100,000kms. Was pretty impressed with them for all environments. Great performance but the side walls are not awesome. For the environment the OP is talking about the side walls are very exposed. They wouldnt be my choice.

You probably right champ. arent they 3 ply only? I remember reading my tyre walls. I can check again abit later
30th March 2018, 10:31 AM
the evil twin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avo

ya need a 10 ply side wall not 3ply..look for a lt-light truck
mate did heaps of driving through saltbush n stick out of kalgoolie..swore by 10 ply sidewall...hope that helps mate,

Absolutely agree...

LT tyres will be the go to greatly reduce the amount of punctures... and don't drop your pressures too much.
Certainly agree you don't want road pressures but only drop enough to keep traction and so the side wall doesn't become a traget.

Rough guide is if most (you won't stop them all but if most) of the punctures are in the side wall you need a higher pressure to get the tyre standing up more and 'squirming' less so the tread stays under the rim
30th March 2018, 10:51 AM
drgtr

What about tyres that have 3 or 4 ply etc but rate as equal to 10 ply. I seen alot of those. Are they legitimate in regards to strength of a true physical 10 ply?
30th March 2018, 11:24 AM
warthog1

Nitto trail grapplers have a 3 ply sidewall and a 10 ply rating.
A heavy tyre with a stiff sidewall.

A 10 ply rating does not mean a 10 ply sidewall.
I'm not aware of any radial tyre with that many sidewall plys.http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...018/03/269.jpg http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...018/03/270.jpg
30th March 2018, 06:02 PM
threedogs

Quote:

Originally Posted by pro25ahmed

Didn't find a thread so I made this one
Part of our job is to visit local farmers
So we need to go off-road sometimes
Problem is my tyres can't endure the environment (last time I did 23 patches in just two days and two tyres were in unrepairable)
Stock tyre size 265/70R16
Environment is filled withy spicky bushes and dry hard stems (puncture resistance required)(no way around it)
Sometimes muddy
So what type and size of tyres should I get
And do I need to change my wheel size
Any help is appreciated

Sounds like you have H/T style tyres, buy tyres that are of L/T construction or light truck.
Mud pattern will be the strongestest Micket T P4 are great as well as BFG AT KOs that would be my pick.
but if doing this every dat go buy some 10 ply tyres like the roo shooters use
@MB are you thinking of internal bead locks
31st March 2018, 12:43 PM
MB

Quote:

Originally Posted by threedogs

@MB are you thinking of internal bead locks

I guess I was John mate although unaware how they worked as kindly mentioned above now.
Thought they could have been a bit more helpful like military/mining type jobbies on Google out there.
http://www.marathontyres.com.au/rl_rubberliners.html
Honeycomb airless inner video within looks pretty bulletproof but expensive could imagine. Probably very low speed rated too!
Light truck tyres over heavy desert prickles sounds like the go!!

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5th April 2018, 05:20 AM
pro25ahmed

Sadly I didn't find LTtyres for my rim size
I found 7.5R16 Dunlop LT tyres
Gonna change rim width two inches down
1st June 2018, 06:59 PM
Ratpol

Make sure your tyres are LT (light truck) rated as they are much tougher than non LT tyres. Not all 4x4 tyres are LT rated, including some All Terrain tyres.