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I'm thinking of getting a set of muddies. There are so many cheap brands out there that I've not heard of or know much about and am wanting to hear from anyone that has run some of these cheap tyres to see what they think of them.
By cheap, I mean under $200 per tyre.
I received a speical deal from a friend they were Federal couragia 285 x 16, great off road
need a rotate as a bit noisey now
This is a hard one to quantify I reckon. The tyres can be compared against their load ratings, tread depth and disclosed construction, but you are not going to be able to validate what rubber compounds are used or the methods of comparing apples for apples. If you are happy with the tread pattern and lets face it there are a lot very similar in the generic mud pattern, and willing to accept maybe a shorter life, or at least the perception that cheaper will mean shorter, you stick within the load capacity, watch pressures and look after the tyres they will probably give good service. If you are running heavy loads, reduced pressures, doing tough tyre bruising trips, maybe the higher priced tyres are a better fit - being you expect more apart from the brand name.
I stick with a higher cost tyre because of reputation and heavy load capacity. I don't use the vehicle much so the actual cost is irrelevant as i get extended life - time - out of them. If I was running around on them everyday it would be a similar outcome I think, but thats just my particular application. Hope this helps.
I take it youre only after a mud pattern spare try that Huntsman mob on Ebay might be worthwhile
Nah, I'm looking for a set of 4 muddies. My ATs are about 50% worn, maybe a little more, I don't think they'll cut it for the up coming wet weather & snow.
I went & took a look at some Windforce tyres, the bloke selling them said they were going pretty well on all the things he's fitted them to. I'd only expect 40,000 out of them, but that'd last me for 3 years I reckpn as I wouldn't leave them on.
Buying Chinese tyres fills me with fear, but then again I could get lucky and find a good brand that no one has heard of and they could be great.
Bloody decisions decisions.
There's another thought. For the same price as 4 decent mud tyres, I could a front locker fitted.
They are cheap 'cause they are shit and will suffer from severe imbalance, uneven wear, short life, noise, tread slap etc etc... all of which doesn't mean they don't have their niche as play things.
If you want to use the tyres as dailys (and not swap them on and off for play only) you are better off spending the extra dough on a better brand.
That was my experience
Yeah as above many moons ago tried a cheap set and I got 15-20 thou kms out of them....gone!
Hold out mate, save the $$$ and get a decent quality set.
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Have a look at Achilles XMT. I know people with them and love em
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Given that you're using them as a second set for off road use, have you considered buying a good quality set second hand with around 60-70% tread. You regularly see them being fogged off on gumtree and Facebook pages
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Thanks for all the info people, much appreciated.
Last night I remembered I ran a set of Hercules on my Navara and they were darn good. They use a Cooper carcass and their own tread rubber, so they have a good tough carcass on 'em.
Nitto & Kenda have also been mentioned to me as well.
I had a set of feds in a 35x12.5R15 and they weren't too bad. Now running Couragia cf3000's and I find them much better in the mud. Probably a bit worse on wet bitumen but only slightly. cf3000's are quieter than the feds were, throw better, seem to handle dry roads better, have been very happy with them so far.
How many K's have you done on them??Quote:
Originally Posted by Throbbinhood
You can swap for my 285 x 16 federal Muddies if you want just on 50%
I reckon I did around 10-15k km's on the Feds. They were probably around 75-80% tready at that, so would've expected to get to 40-50k which for a cheap tyre I'm more than happy with.Quote:
Originally Posted by 10G
The Comforsor's, I'm probably up to about 3k km's. Wearing well so far. I don't daily this car so the kms come on slowly and usually involve a lot of offroad.
Thanks TD, but nah. A muddie at 50% is called an AT ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by threedogs
I had a bad experience with Federal Couragia's. Apart from being noisey, uncomfortable and wearing fast, I was inspecting them one day and found one had started to split right down the middle. The rubber was actually splitting between the tread blocks and you could see the canvass. Took it back and the shop said they'd never seen that happen before. They replaced it FOC but still not very inspiring. Also had one suddenly lose all it's air while driving on the highway (unsure of the cause). I wouldn't trust them, particularly not in any terrain where you actually need a mud tyre. Speaking from experience only.
Has anyone dealt with this mob? $245 for a new KM 2 seems cheap. https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/suns...km2/1147040709
275 fitted and balanced though. Having a quick look on the net that is in the bal park for them fitted and balanced.
I run 33" Kumho MT51s , about $300 a tyre fitted , awesome in mud & wet grass etc , did heaps of full on mud tracks in 2WD ( to prove a point ) that my mates struggled in 4WD.
Heard the maxtrek mud tracs are ok for a cheapie. I dont have any first hand knowledge of them though sorry.
On the other hand i had 33" nitto trails fitted today for $305 each
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Must positively say Sprock mate, have been quietly watching your offroad tyre performance and longevity hopes. 20yrs ago Kumho Muddies were nothing more than a 1/4 life span lug throwing BF Goodrich copy was personally proven. Your not so new truck boots are smashing it mate :-) 25% extra us BFG diehards still be paying but at least we get a rubber keychain too :-)Quote:
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I ended up getting 265/70x17 Nitto Trail Graplers. After almost 4000ks, very impressed. Not too noisey, can't see any wear after 4000ks. Did 1000 ks up the High Country, not a single problem, running around with 18 - 20 psi in them. Very grippy, went up lots of rocky tracks, can't see one tear or cut in any of them.
Very impressed, may even change brand loyalty after these. $250 fitted.