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Is it really? Those things move so slow. I think the driver hasnt put the hand brake on. Or there is something else going on....Quote:
Originally Posted by AB
Why isn't the ramp up??Quote:
Originally Posted by nissannewby
Bit strange...
Yeah who knows. Bit of a bummer for the owner as it looks like it was on its way to fraser.
A side question... Will the owners now cop a fine for polluting. Diesel, oil, etc in the ocean? Will a recovery even take place or do they just leave it... ?
I think regardless of a working handbrake or not, vehicles should not just be able to roll into the ocean. You would think there would be some bollards or something in place to stop them if they do move. Wonder who's insurance needs to cover it?
Bloody Toyota handbrakes!
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Originally Posted by Winnie
I agree... At the moment it's just a good laugh, But what happened if people where in it and it rolled off and they got trapped and died.?? Dare say the Captain would be a world of chit for not putting the ramps up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winnie
Wow. I was on that barge about eight weeks ago. I hope the barge operators take responsibility. You would assume the operators have accountability for ensuring the vehicles are safely secured before launching.
If they were in it you would think they would put their foot on the brake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Softy
As for the insurance I'm not sure I want to be the one having to explain that. Any rental car wouldn't be covered one bit as they exclude ferries. I wonder how it'll go. I'd take up scuba diving if it was my truck and see what I could recover :(
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The Captain of the barge is totally responsible. Duty of care. Ramp was not up and no other barrier ( chain ) in place. I think his insurance just went up some.
I agree Bazaboy. Remembering our barge trip to Fraser 8 weeks ago, the Deck Hand came up to me and asked if it was in gear and handbreak on. I answered Żes'. But that was all, He never checked, and just took my word for it. I think those accountable for all on board (including what you are transporting) are accountable for making sure everything is secured before launching. I hope the barge company ends up paying for the losses.
If anyone's ever taken the voyage across Bass Strait on a wild night you'll know that all vehicle decks below are cleared of humans prior to setting sail for good reason!
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/fe...04-golshc.html
"Damage to vehicles is still being determined and the company is dealing directly with affected parties"
Dunno why anyone would be accountable except the person who parked it there...if you hopped out no handbrake and not in gear tuff even if it was a mistake...why blame anyone bar the person who is control of that car.....
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I am very glad no-one was in it, but now this has happened maybe the operators will check things properly. For a lot of customers it would be their first ferry trip.
Hmmm 80 series on fraser , my bet would be backpacker tag along out of Rainbow, either Sven or Ingred , no user the handa- breaka thingy 😉
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Being a beach landing ferry I'm not sure the ramps go much higher??
Bloody Toyota hand brakes are nothing but decoration at best..
I'd say they have "applied" the break but left it out of gear.
Bloody unfortunate even though it is only a yota, it's a car full for someone's hard erred cash and belongings..
Yes if there was someone in the car... What would have happened if there was 3 kids strapped into the back seat and mum got out of the car to get them out and it rolled off then.... Having the ramps up would have stopped this situation happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by sooty_10
Well that would have been tragic.... thankfully not in this case. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Softy
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A friend of mine used to run the Brooklyn ferry and he told me that many years ago, after loosing a family in a vehicle off the Wiseman's Ferry barge, the NSW government demanded that all vehicle ferrys & barges had to have an interlocked isolation system between the ramp or gates to ensure they were closed & locked before the ferry/barge could move. I would be amazed if this was not the requirement for all similar vehicle/passenger transports in Australia. Regardless on how this happened, it is still the Captain's responsibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avo
"Oh what a feeling"
Jokes aside the ramp should have been up. The deck hands normaly check with the driver that the hand brake is on and gearbox in park or gear. In bad weather I have seen cars slide on the ferry.
Was a simple Toyota failure. The vehicle should have been left in Park/Gear. For a bit of a laugh, the captain was disposing of crap. On the serious side, glad know one was hurt except the back packers pride who had all they're phones and passports in the car.
Oops. I'm guessing somebody's going to be in trouble.
Do you reckon Worksafe or govt equivalent will be involved?
Having done a bit of time 'on boats', this will no doubt come back on the skipper for ultimate responsibility, as does everything really. Will be interesting to hear what the final outcome is in terms of how it happened though. I would not have thought it possible for a vehicle to roll off the back without some sort of negligence from the operator, idiot behind the wheel or not.
that sucks big time...imaghine how long it will,take to get on the water if the captain has to inspect every car...we are in the era of america,it's not my fault it's yours...good bye australia...welcome america andf ya lawyers
Forget scuba. The link from the first post says it's about 60m down. At that depth your getting into special gas mixtures and expensive equipment.Quote:
Originally Posted by sooty_10
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80 series on the sounder...lol
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum.../2017/01/3.jpg
................on the road
I have used this barge probably over 100 times and never was asked to put hand brake on and in gear. That is just common sense, you would do that if parked on a hill or a boat ramp or even on flat ground. Although once, we were coming into the beach too fast and the deckie had to yell out to everyone to jump in and put foot on brakes to stop everyone rolling into each other.
In photo it looks like he has just left the beach and ramp has not come up yet.
The rules changed a year or two ago up here when some idiot drove off the ramp before barge had docked up north somewhere and another looser tried to drive on the barge after it had left ramp. When docking, the drivers of front row of vehicles have to be out of the vehicle until it stops and deckie instructs vehicles to leave.
Society is being "dumbed "down to the lowest common level. If you have to be told (as we are these days) on a hot day to keep cool and drink water, there is no hope for mankind.
60 meters deep and not very far from shore?! I doubt it.
More like 8 metersQuote:
Originally Posted by mudski
................on the road
Yeah I reckon so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nisshead
It only just took off so close to shoreQuote:
Originally Posted by mudski
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum.../2017/01/4.jpg
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum.../2017/01/5.jpg
................on the road
Well that photo confirms the possible bullshit that it's sitting in 60m of water surely? Can't be 60m that far out can it? Unless it floated out further ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Nisshead
Maybe it was left out if gear because it had a turbo timer and the handbrake was classic Toyota spec?
Or maybe it was an insurance job?
>>>tappin from tassie
It was a backpacker hire 4wdQuote:
Originally Posted by taslucas
Pretty sure the BasS Straight Ferry has signs saying
leave the vehicle in park or in gear with the hand brake on.
Bummer losing all your papers and personal belongings so far
from home. Good story to tell when they get home, lol
They need a sign to tell people this?Quote:
Originally Posted by threedogs
Yep cause ppl are that stupid sometimes, they need signsQuote:
Originally Posted by mudski