Manual grabbers

G'day all.

Another manual grabber slipped through the cracks just before while the admin team wasn't looking. If you do happen to see this happening and admin are sleeping you can sometimes (but not always) slow them down by sending them a message.
Default profile settings mean these people won't get a private message notification pop up but I believe they will get a visitor message notification at the top right of the screen if you send a visitor message.

You can send a visitor message by clicking on their user name and looking at their profile, the visitor message option is in their profile.

We can't stop all of them but if we work together we can get most of them.

Cheers

Tony

cheers Tony, as always will be on the look out when I'm around

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Originally Posted by YNOT

G'day all.

Another manual grabber slipped through the cracks just before while the admin team wasn't looking. If you do happen to see this happening and admin are sleeping you can sometimes (but not always) slow them down by sending them a message.
Default profile settings mean these people won't get a private message notification pop up but I believe they will get a visitor message notification at the top right of the screen if you send a visitor message.

You can send a visitor message by clicking on their user name and looking at their profile, the visitor message option is in their profile.

We can't stop all of them but if we work together we can get most of them.

Cheers

Tony

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Yeah sorry Tony only caught him after 25 Posts. I should have been more alert

i caught him at about 15 posts and didnt kknow who to contact i sent AB a pm but got no reply which is all good but just as a sugestion ......a list of people we can contact with the power of the forum be put somewhere for such problems may arise .....i could see it comming but didnt know what to do

Sorry guys
Timbar

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Originally Posted by Bob

Yeah sorry Tony only caught him after 25 Posts. I should have been more alert

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Don't feel bad Bob, none of us are getting paid for this.
This forum is such a great place to be that we all take pride in it and want to protect it. The manuals are a great resource which we don't mind sharing with new forum members who are contributing, but we feel almost violated when someone takes them without contributing anything, like they've stolen them.

Tony

P.S. Bob have you got my phone number?

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Originally Posted by timbar

i caught him at about 15 posts and didnt kknow who to contact i sent AB a pm but got no reply which is all good but just as a sugestion ......a list of people we can contact with the power of the forum be put somewhere for such problems may arise .....i could see it comming but didnt know what to do

Sorry guys
Timbar

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At the moment AB and myself are doing all the moderating, work commitments have reduced the amount of time Paul and Wayne can be on the forum.

Tony

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Originally Posted by YNOT

Don't feel bad Bob, none of us are getting paid for this.
This forum is such a great place to be that we all take pride in it and want to protect it. The manuals are a great resource which we don't mind sharing with new forum members who are contributing, but we feel almost violated when someone takes them without contributing anything, like they've stolen them.

Tony

P.S. Bob have you got my phone number?

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No I havnt Tony . Just a suggestion perhaps Nobody can get manuals after 25 Posts until authorised by a Moderator. Dont know whether this could be arranged

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Originally Posted by Bob

No I havnt Tony . Just a suggestion perhaps Nobody can get manuals after 25 Posts until authorised by a Moderator. Dont know whether this could be arranged

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I'll PM you my number Bob.

Your idea and a few others have been discussed by admin in the past. We may need to discuss it again.

Tony

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Originally Posted by Bob

No I havnt Tony . Just a suggestion perhaps Nobody can get manuals after 25 Posts until authorised by a Moderator. Dont know whether this could be arranged

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yeah thats a better idea is it posoible to have to PM to be able to download and that way you can look at the posts and either initiate and extra 25 posts if they are SH@t posts or just decline alltogether and bann them ??

Robbery in broad daylight? Timbar's idea is a good one ( for a change). But may make your workload heavier ? A 24 or 12 hour period to wait for manual shouldnt be that painful.
I'll do what I can obviously.

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Originally Posted by katwoman

Robbery in broad daylight? Timbar's idea is a good one ( for a change). But may make your workload heavier ? A 24 or 12 hour period to wait for manual shouldnt be that painful.
I'll do what I can obviously.

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oh what are you trying to say KAT ?????????????????????????? :frown:
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Death to manual grabbers

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Originally Posted by Patrolute4x4

Death to manual grabbers

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Hey Mate, welcome to forum, but please post an introduction. It is a curtesy to other users. You may find you even like it here

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Originally Posted by Patrolute4x4

Death to manual grabbers

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You're GOOOONE!

Thanks for the heads up guys, good to talk to you Bob.

Tony

Well done, Tony.. 2 in broad daylight ?
They're obviously scared of night shift security !!!
Poor guy had no chance !

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Originally Posted by YNOT

You're GOOOONE!

Thanks for the heads up guys, good to talk to you Bob.

Tony

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HAHAHAHAHAHAH, funny as.
This guy obviously wasn't even reading any posts ......I was wondering how long it was gonna take..LOL

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Originally Posted by Patrolute4x4

Death to manual grabbers

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You were doing fine mate and giving some half effort to welcome members, etc but we're big on just introducing yourself to the community which is scattered all over the forum but you chose to ignore it...

I agree with Tony in banning you for a cheeky comment like that.

It costs about $20 to get a manual on Ebay but all we really expect here for the free manuals is an intro about yourself and your Patrol and just welcome some members like you were doing and don't ever be a smartass...One thing that will never be on this forum is cheeky little sh!ts mate!

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Originally Posted by AB

You were doing fine mate and giving some half effort to welcome members, etc but we're big on just introducing yourself to the community which is scattered all over the forum but you chose to ignore it...

I agree with Tony in banning you for a cheeky comment like that.

It costs about $20 to get a manual on Ebay but all we really expect here for the free manuals is an intro about yourself and your Patrol and just welcome some members like you were doing and don't ever be a smartass...One thing that will never be on this forum is cheeky little sh!ts mate!

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Nicely put mate!

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Originally Posted by AB

You were doing fine mate and giving some half effort to welcome members, etc but we're big on just introducing yourself to the community which is scattered all over the forum but you chose to ignore it...

I agree with Tony in banning you for a cheeky comment like that.

It costs about $20 to get a manual on Ebay but all we really expect here for the free manuals is an intro about yourself and your Patrol and just welcome some members like you were doing and don't ever be a smartass...One thing that will never be on this forum is cheeky little sh!ts mate!

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haha that is classic! nice work mate

your the man andy

tony your the man
excellent work done by admin and moderator

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Originally Posted by roofy

your the man andy

tony your the man
excellent work done by admin and moderator

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Tonys the man, I was actually watching the new videos that members have posted...LMAO

What? What happened?? LOL

Saw him earlier, but he was fairly slowly paced for a spammer, so wasn't sure ..

Glad I never make any smart@rse comments!! lmfao

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Originally Posted by timbar

i caught him at about 15 posts and didnt kknow who to contact i sent AB a pm but got no reply which is all good but just as a sugestion ......a list of people we can contact with the power of the forum be put somewhere for such problems may arise .....i could see it comming but didnt know what to do

Sorry guys
Timbar

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Do what I did, bookmark this thread http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...Forum-Contacts under your favorites, and at the smell of a manual grabber do a group PM.

Sorry guys haven't been on 2day.............2 busy sitting outside drinking beside my fire pit :)

I'm still of the firm opinion that you take it down - people can have it, but after 25 posts (or whatever arbitrary amount), they have to email AB or one of the moderators for a link to download it ... removes all of the headache in having to 'police' the site and at least then you have a valid email address for each member ...

But what do I know!!! LOL

Another good idea

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Originally Posted by Bigrig

I'm still of the firm opinion that you take it down - people can have it, but after 25 posts (or whatever arbitrary amount), they have to email AB or one of the moderators for a link to download it ... removes all of the headache in having to 'police' the site and at least then you have a valid email address for each member ...

But what do I know!!! LOL

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I know and It's a great idea but unfortunately my provider doesnt allow unlimited bandwidth and we're on the highest level ATM which is called the Gold Platnium...lol

I need to find a provider who will give unlimited bandwidth I guess...

The other thing too is if I had of found a site like this back 5 years ago with my other 4wd's I would have been so appreciative of the resources on here for free in one place.

From all the vehicle manuals, reference documents, suppliments, camping, safety and recovery manuals, etc all laid out nicely...

I would of being so appreciative of this and had respect!!!

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Originally Posted by AB

I know and It's a great idea but my provider doesnt allow unlimited bandwidth and we're on the highest level ATM which is called the Gold Platnium...lol

I need to find a provider who will give unlimited bandwidth I guess...

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What about on a rapid share account?? $59 a year I think isn't it?? I'm happy to use my account for it if you want. They email you, you verify their request, let me know in your good time (so you can see if they keep posting etc), and I'll email them the link.

Not wanting to start a poof fight as I am genuinely intrigued. Whats the big deal with "manual grabbing" ?

I don't quite understand what the problem is... almost all the manuals and guides I have seen on any Forums have originated elsewhere anyway and often with no acknolwedgement of the origin which makes it impossible to see where the Document originated.

Seeing as how "anyone" can access the Forum and read the posts I must be missing something as to why they have 'free' access to the posts, problems and solutions yet not the manuals, guides and bibles. An example would be the documents from EMA and WAPOL that are freely available elsewhere yet need a 25 post 'price' for the ones hosted on here to be accessed.

Just curious is all and not supporting any smartrrses... they usually get their just rewards in other ways.

I missed the whole bloody lot was preserving my chilli crop and whalla had a weird no message pm and deleted it!!

Thats a fair comment ET and I'll explain below.

When I started the site I was just on the Bronze hosting plan, then with the manuals on the site it went to Silver plan, gold plan and now on Platnium plan...lol

The site was actually running out of memory allowance each month which could slow the forum or even stop it alltogether until next month. I had to put some kind of restriction on it to try and keep the forum running and to keep costs down.

I have only recently jumped up to the highest level of web hosting service and I'm too reluctant to change providers in fear of loosing Google rankings which I have spent a year on working it up.

I'm about to go away for Easter but when I get back lets open it up so anyone can download it and we'll see what happens...I want to make sure I'm here in case it crashes, etc.

If I forget then if someone can remind me that would be fantastic...

I agree with you though Scotty, It's just frustrating and no point in moderating the people who just want the manual only.

If they download it with ease they might even hang around too so lets give that a whirl after Easter.

Thanks for the clarification AB...

You certainly don't want to be making a rod for your own back and others with the "moderating issues" thats for sure but it is nice to get something back in the form of a kosher Forum member for the efforts eh.

Those who know me know that I am all for helping anyone with any info I can no questions asked. I can also vouch that means one gets taken advantage of (perhaps I should say shafted) from time to time however which is a tad frustrating.

Anyway, as I said it just sparked my curiousity more than anything and happy to support the Forum and the Policy as is seen fit.

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Originally Posted by the evil twin

Not wanting to start a poof fight as I am genuinely intrigued. Whats the big deal with "manual grabbing" ?

I don't quite understand what the problem is... almost all the manuals and guides I have seen on any Forums have originated elsewhere anyway and often with no acknolwedgement of the origin which makes it impossible to see where the Document originated.

Seeing as how "anyone" can access the Forum and read the posts I must be missing something as to why they have 'free' access to the posts, problems and solutions yet not the manuals, guides and bibles. An example would be the documents from EMA and WAPOL that are freely available elsewhere yet need a 25 post 'price' for the ones hosted on here to be accessed.

Just curious is all and not supporting any smartrrses... they usually get their just rewards in other ways.

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I asked the same thing when I first got in here ET ... I'm sorta fine with everyone just having access immediately to a degree, as it stops having to read 25 posts of sh!t when they spam to get it, and takes the headache away from getting people to comply, but that said, it is a resource that goes well beyond the information posted on here, costs to buy in the open market, and most importantly, separates the forum from others where all we ask is for involvement (genuine) and make a small effort to get something that they have obviously not been able to get elsewhere without outlaying their hard earned ... double edge sword either way, but I'm still of the opinion it is simpler to just have it as a download via an emailed link ... takes all the management away ...

I recon if you just put a text file inside the zip saying that you must contact the admin for the real file that way if they just put 25 posts worth of $hit they just wasted there time

OK so what do the other sites do? Can you just go and download them there? No membership. No posts.

Throw an idea right out of the left field, If we make them available no posts, no membership, but payable say $5.00 per down load using a paypal account(this to be a link to Andy's paypal a/c he would have with ebay.)

Tim

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Originally Posted by the evil twin

Thanks for the clarification AB...

You certainly don't want to be making a rod for your own back and others with the "moderating issues" thats for sure but it is nice to get something back in the form of a kosher Forum member for the efforts eh.

Those who know me know that I am all for helping anyone with any info I can no questions asked. I can also vouch that means one gets taken advantage of (perhaps I should say shafted) from time to time however which is a tad frustrating.

Anyway, as I said it just sparked my curiousity more than anything and happy to support the Forum and the Policy as is seen fit.

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And help you certainly have done since you've joined ET!

Tim

I'm actually in two minds. I didnt even know about the manual when I joined, I was ( and am) here more for info on patrols that have been tried and tested by real drivers.
Dont get me wrong, I have downloaded the manual, for reading when I'm bored. Simply because I was taught if you dont know the basics about your car, then you dont deserve one.
At the end of the day those that want to hang around, will.
Those that want to grab the manual, will ( or try at least)
keeping in mind that you make it free for all users, night shift security will have to be disbanded and you all will probaly suffer the consequences. (pml)

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Originally Posted by katwoman

I'm actually in two minds. I didnt even know about the manual when I joined, I was ( and am) here more for info on patrols that have been tried and tested by real drivers.
Dont get me wrong, I have downloaded the manual, for reading when I'm bored. Simply because I was taught if you dont know the basics about your car, then you dont deserve one.
At the end of the day those that want to hang around, will.
Those that want to grab the manual, will ( or try at least)
keeping in mind that you make it free for all users, night shift security will have to be disbanded and you all will probaly suffer the consequences. (pml)

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yer x 2 lmao

I really don't know what to do about this problem. I personally haven't downloaded a manual [never really thought about it].
What pisses me off is that these KNOBS annoy my mates on here & make life hard for the moderators. Really is that hard to be a part of a like minded group & put some genuinely interesting posts up, you never know you might even enjoy it.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Make em ask for it Andy, then you can check their posts and send it, would this work??