Thunderer MT R408 a 285/70/17- King Rims steel 17/8/ -13

Thunderer is the brand not the incorrect spelling in the thread title.

Picked up the Thunderer MT R408 tyres x 5.
Was recommended these by a friend that ownes a Bridgestone outlet.
Did some looking on line to only find minimal information, but all good information.
Anyways I fitted them and they look the part.
I know a 16" rim and tyres are the go in a 305, but these don't come in that size and the budget wasn't going to allow me to get them.

I went for the 285/70/17 on 17/8 rims with a neg13 offset.
They sit nice and to the edge of the guards.
No lift yet so they fill the guards nicely, will see how the end result with the 2" lift is in a couple of months.

No spacer is needed for the rear door, fits like the factory assembly.

Yet to drive on them, when going out the drive the left front mud flop was half ripped off.
Sorting this out now and will follow up later with a dive result on the black top, heading to Gembrook next Sunday and will report back.
Hope the photos are okay.

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Pics aren't the best

Very nice look like they would be quiet, liking those side bitters to.
They'll protect the side walls, yep very nice. Didnt think you'd be ripping
mudflaps off with 285s ?
What road pressures are you running

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Once you get your 2" lift in you'll be right

Just did a drive.
Very quiet up to 40km, from that to 60km is not much difference and maybe 5%.
70km to 80km they are possible 50% quieter than the Federals and still very quiet.
100km are possibly another 5% noisier than 80km.
They are a classic muddy with the stearing, feels very light and sloppy due to the minimal tread on the road
PSI is 35.

Question, without the lift, will it be safe to hit the tracks re the scrubbing.
If the front mud flaps are the only part the tyres hit and now removed could the tyres hit the flares with flex etc.

Me no,,,,,, I wouldnt go 4x4ing, if I did Id be only doing mild tracks.
couldnt think of anything worse than caving in the back of front guard.
If you hit the front hard with the wheels turned it could make a mess.
Its your Patrol so its your call really. thats not to say you cant go hit some bush land tracks

Your tyres will be a bit squishy till they settle a bit, 35psi should be about right
for a nice ride

Looks like a lift this week.
Going away Easter and not going to risk it.
OME lift purchased today.

Took the patrol out for a small play to Gembrook today.
Very happy with the tyres, they did everything a muddy should.
It was super slippery on the clay even for the guys with cooper and bridgstone MTs.
They cleaned the mud very well, gripped well, stayed on track very well and were able to claw out of clay ruts.
Gripped on the rocks and flexed nicely.
I gave them a good workout on the gravel, they didn't grip as I thought but neither did the Federals.
Not sure if it's just MTs in general on loose gravel.
Heading to big and little desert, border track with sand dunes in the mix.
Will report on this trip and tyre wear.

They look good bloke and nice stance with the -13..
If ya don't mind me asking what was the set back price being a 17"??
I'm also thinking I'll go one set and get a good mud tyre or aggressive AT again instead Of 2 sets..

Tyre $239 each for 5 and $115 for 5, King steel rims 17x8 rated to 1400kg.

Same as westy here, but thinking to stay with a 16". Must have a look at what sizes are available.

Quick wet weather drive review

Hit the black top this morning and gave the tyres a good workout.
They gripped very well in and out of corners and have good tracking in the wet.
Stopping was good under normal pedal, hard and very quick test stops. The ABS assists as usual.
Hit some gutter puddles and they spread the water well and didn't hydroplane like a normal road or AT tyre, to be expected I think due to the shape if the tread.

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Originally Posted by rusty00

Quick wet weather drive review

Hit the black top this morning and gave the tyres a good workout.
They gripped very well in and out of corners and have good tracking in the wet.
Stopping was good under normal pedal, hard and very quick test stops. The ABS assists as usual.
Hit some gutter puddles and they spread the water well and didn't hydroplane like a normal road or AT tyre, to be expected I think due to the shape if the tread.

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Good to hear. An dam that's a good price

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Originally Posted by threedogs

Very nice look like they would be quiet, liking those side bitters to.
They'll protect the side walls, yep very nice. Didnt think you'd be ripping
mudflaps off with 285s ?
What road pressures are you running

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G'day,

FYI ...285/75/16 BFG Muds ripped my front mudflaps off with a 2" lift. Intend to modify them and put them back on.

Easter w/e trip.
Road trip the tyres are good and not to noisey at 110 compared to the Federals.
Drove 100's of km's on sand, not sure how good they were as never driven MT on sand.
They seamed to do the right thing with grip and did dig in as expected.
Did a full on soft sand hill climb with ease after dropping to 15psi.
Did some nice stinky muddy bog holes and they worked a treat.
One problem was going through a bog hole and must of hit a tree root or steel and ripped a 80mm gash in the side wall, just unlucky I guess? Lucky they are cheap as I would of cried like a baby if a $400 tyre.
I was surprised how easy they climbed on soft sand hills once set to 15psi.
Not ideal to do sand with MT's but didn't have a choice in tyres this weekend, sucked the fuel.

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Originally Posted by bigguwesty

Good to hear. An dam that's a good price

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Just got the same deal for my mate, pick them up Tuesday.

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Originally Posted by rusty00

Just got the same deal for my mate, pick them up Tuesday.

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See how the tax man plays this year...

Went to the high country Queens bday.
Tyres performed really well in the mud and rocks.
This is the first real test for them and am happy to say they have a lot less by 80% splits, chips and deterioration of wear than the Federals for the same trip last year and the patrol is a lot heavier than the challenge was on Federals.
My mate Wex00 also runs the same and was supper happy with them.
We ran around 20 to 24 PSI between us with no problems or loss of grip.

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Originally Posted by rusty00

Went to the high country Queens bday.
Tyres performed really well in the mud and rocks.
This is the first real test for them and am happy to say they have a lot less by 80% splits, chips and deterioration of wear than the Federals for the same trip last year and the patrol is a lot heavier than the challenge was on Federals.
My mate Wex00 also runs the same and was supper happy with them.
We ran around 20 to 24 PSI between us with no problems or loss of grip.

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Have you tried them down lower around 15-18 psi?
Most tyres with heaps of side wall strength tend to stand up more..
Was reading my mates micky T MTZ tyres, only 3 layers of poly in the walls..

Not on the mud or rocks only in sand.
Next harder track like Butchers Link I will run them below 20psi.
Was running around 20 to 24 psi and only lost traction once.

QUOTE=bigguwesty;683493]Have you tried them down lower around 15-18 psi?
Most tyres with heaps of side wall strength tend to stand up more..
Was reading my mates micky T MTZ tyres, only 3 layers of poly in the walls..[/QUOTE]

Looks Ace mate, how do they go offroad? Rusty00

They are really good and think they are performing better than the Federals.

QUOTE=Mudveins;683687]Looks Ace mate, how do they go offroad? Rusty00[/QUOTE]

Update
Been out a few times since last post.
They are doing what they are intended to do and can't complain about there ability.
I have noticed that they are soft and breaking apart after heavy rocky sections.
The centre tread has some decent chunks missing but only the tyres that have been on the back.

Cheers for the follow-up...👍

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Update
Been out a few times since last post.
They are doing what they are intended to do and can't complain about there ability.
I have noticed that they are soft and breaking apart after heavy rocky sections.
The centre tread has some decent chunks missing but only the tyres that have been on the back.

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So how many k's on em?
And what do you think they'll get to?

I found my maxis tyres soft as butter when I first got them.. but after 10 thou they really hardened up.
I lost 3mm on the rear in the first 10 thou but the second 10 thou bearly made a mm difference..

About 4000km
Did rocky tk today and Bog holes, they did well on all.
I did find them to be a bit more slippery on the clay that other tyres, but that's clay for you.

QUOTE=bigguwesty;697625]So how many k's on em?
Assnd what do you think they'll get to?

I found my maxis tyres soft as butter when I first got them.. but after 10 thou they really hardened up.
I lost 3mm on the rear in the first 10 thou but the second 10 thou bearly made a mm difference..[/QUOTE]