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And did you get a government grant to do so?
I'm curious to see what the spending has been like and what the experiences are, some spend $2500 and some up to $4000+
Did you use a 2nd hand system and do a DIY job or did you get it from a recognized LPG "shop"
What year/type of Patrol do you drive?
And did you get a government grant to install your system or without and why?
Oh, and what state/city do you live in?
Needless to say people who bought theirs with LPG installed don't need to vote...
1, If you want it to be reliable don't use second hand parts.
2, Fitting LPG is NOT a DIY job. Strict regulations apply to the fitting of LPG systems and must be done by suitably qualified techs.
3, The cost of the system depends mainly on the quality and technology of the system being installed. If you have a carby petrol vehicle then you can get away with the cheaper "carby" type LPG systems but you still want quality components and fitting for reliabillty. If your car is EFI then it's worth paying a bit more for an LPG injection system. LPG injection gives much more precise fuel control, virtually eliminates the possibillity of backfiring and allows rev limiters and traction control (where fitted-not talking Patrols here) to operate normally.
There are now 2 types of LPG injection systems vapour injection and liquid injection. Vapour sequential injection will see only about a 5% drop in power when you switch from petrol to gas. The more expensive liquid sequential injection will actually increase power by 2 or 3% when running on gas. They do this by injecting liquid LPG into the intake port where it evaporates to a vapour causing an intercooling type effect, latant heat of evaporation I think it's called.
Patrols do cost a bit more to convert than most as in most cases it requires the fitting of a sub fuel tank for Petrol. Most people opt to put the LPG tank where the standard fuel tank was fitted hence the need for a new petrol tank.
I live in QLD and in my previous job was a qualified LPG fitter/repairer. I fitted Parnell vapour sequential injection systems to my '94 EFI Patrol (since sold the car) and my wifes BA Falcon wagon which we still have. We were able to claim the government rebate ($2000 per vehicle at the time) for both vehicles. Doing the labour myself meant both systems owed us very little after rebate.
Tony
Hey Tony - if I went the LS1 and decided to put gas on it, would it be eligible for the rebate?? I was of the opinion that it was one off, against the vehicle (not the engine), but if I could get the rebate, I'd consider having gas put on again (new system of course).
That depends on whether or not the rebate has ever been claimed for that vehicle. If it's never been claimed then it's yours for the taking. You could keep the tank and just replace the under bonnet components and gas line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigrig
Tony
Hmmm - thanks mate - how does one find out these things?Quote:
Originally Posted by YNOT
I'm not exactly sure? Have a look at your rego papers, is it registered as dual fuel or LPG?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigrig
Tony
Will do boss!!Quote:
Originally Posted by YNOT
Also check on the gas compliance plate for the installation date. If it predates the rebate scheme (you'll need to research when that started) then you should be OK. A bit of mucking around but worth it if it means you can get some of your hard earned money back from the government .
Tony
Thanks mate!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by YNOT
Cheers Tony, very elaborate answer mate!
What I've found out so far is that the rebate is $1500 until july when it drops down to $1250. I've had a quote for about $3800 so far which I find reasonably pricey (even with a $1500 "discount")
So I was wondering what most have payed for theirs and what system they got for that money.
What I've heard is that a lot of LPG installers actually 'eat up' the govt. rebates, upping the cost of install so the end user effectively doesn't make any savings at all. It was pretty apparent in WA when the price of LPG installations dropped accordingly as the double rebate (federal and WA) system was canned! Maybe someone else can comment on this?
i already had the LPG in my MIGHTY GQ but was rooted. spent $2500 roughly on new 120L tank and regulator. (including installation)
it was very painfull at the time
Spend ? with the government rebate (long term rip off scheme) i made money lol.
If and when I have to replace my LPG system I would absolutely love liquid injection and in my opinion it would be worth the extra money.
I dunno what size LPG tank I've got but it's bloody massive. If I run it completely empty I can put 110L in.
i bought a prins injection system for $2250 ish plus got a 2nd hand tank for $50 (score) then installed myself. got the father inlaw to check and plate it. + $1000 rebate. so all up cost me about $1300. well worth it for me as my gq does the ks to pay for itself. ive got a 74lt tank.
Just so ppl know im not a gas fitter or mechanic by trade but i did do that stuff for about 18 months or so, so im not just a average back yarder i do know what im doing with gas. plus my father inlaw is very hard to please so if hes not happy with something ill be doing it again. (he is a mechanic / gas fitter)
Hi guys, I am looking at fitting LPG to my 1991 Safari, 4.2 TD42 EFI. Want to run duel fuel and would appreciate any info on which system works best for Nissan.
Lee